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Konrad 11 points ago +12 / -1

I am also in Australia following this drama closely. This effects the future of freedom and democracy the world over.

Too many Americans are blathering about 2022 or 2024. But there is no point. If Trump loses to such blatant fraud, then the US Constitutional Republic falls. There will be no way to win it back at the ballot box. It would require force of arms.

Biden being awarded the Presidency through fraud is exactly the situation the 2nd amendment exists for. Some on this forum seem to grasp the enormity of this situation, but many clearly do not.

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Taylor3006 6 points ago +6 / -0

As a USA American, I haven't heard anyone talk about 2022/2024, everyone is still about the 2020 election. Both sides are gearing up for an actual fight and since we have more guns than any standing army in the world, it probably is going to be pretty messy here. If Trump is victorious, the left will call him a dictator and we will see civil unrest on a much larger scale than this past year. If Biden takes office, the right will see it as an attack on the country and will respond in a far more violent manner IMHO. For most of us, the future does not extend much past January of 2021 as both sides are focused on that.

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Konrad 3 points ago +3 / -0

Violence is too be avoided. And it can be.

Submission to a Biden win means submission to taxation without representation. The very issue that led to the war for independence.

But violence is not required, nor is the threat of violence. What is required is the promise of violence.

Biden wins by fraud and that means you no longer have to pay tax or any mortgage on which state or federal taxes in any amount are levied. You stand and defend your family, yourself, your frens, your land (it no longer belongs to a bank or their Davos masters) and your property. In that order.

You don't need force of arms until they "bring it". Who's "they"? Anyone who would seek to tax you post Biden installation. To evict you, they need to come to the door of an armed patriot who's Minuteman frens are just seconds away.

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Taylor3006 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think avoiding unecessary violence is a good thing. I also believe like many of my countrymen, that violence has solved quite a bit of the world's ills. We have learned that negotiating with terrorists does not work but shooting them in the face works. We have learned that negotiating with the Nazis didn't work, so we had to shoot them in the face. We learned that negotiation with the Brits didn't work, so we had to shoot them in the face. We also learned that negotiation with the Japanese wasn't going to work, so we nuked them in the face. Violence isn't always something to be avoided and is often necessary to get long lasting freedom.