(first Tuesday after the first Monday in November)
During the general election your vote helps determine your State's electors. When you vote for a Presidential candidate, you aren't actually voting for President. You are telling your State which candidate you want your State to vote for at the meeting of the electors. The States use these general election results (also known as the popular vote) to appoint their electors. The winning candidate's State political party selects the individuals who will be the electors.
Mid-November through December 14, 2020
After the presidential election, the Governor of your State prepares seven Certificates of Ascertainment. “As soon as practicable,” after the election results in your State are certified, the Governor sends one of those original Certificates of Ascertainment to the Archivist.
By December 8, 2020—States resolve controversies
(at least six days before the meeting of the electors)
States must make final decisions in any controversies over the appointment of their electors at least six days before the meeting of the electors. This is so their electoral votes will be presumed valid when presented to Congress. Decisions by States’ courts are conclusive, if decided under laws enacted before Election Day.
December 14, 2020—electors vote in their States
The electors meet in their respective States and vote for President and Vice President on separate ballots. The electors record their votes on six Certificates of Vote, which are paired with the six remaining Certificates of Ascertainment. The electors sign, seal, and certify six sets of electoral votes. A set of electoral votes consists of one Certificate of Ascertainment and one Certificate of Vote.
December 23, 2020—electoral votes arrive
Electoral votes (the Certificates of Vote) must be received by the President of the Senate and the Archivist no later than nine days after the meeting of the electors. If votes are lost or delayed, the Archivist may take extraordinary measures to retrieve duplicate originals.
On or before January 3, 2021—Archivist transfers Certificates to Congress
As the new Congress assembles, the Archivist transmits sets of Certificates to Congress, as requested. This generally happens when the Senate does not receive its set of Certificates on time. The transfer occurs in late December or early January when OFR’s Legal staff meets with representatives of the Secretary of the Senate and the Clerk of the House.
January 6, 2021—Congress counts the electoral votes
Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes. The Vice President, as President of the Senate, presides over the count and announces the results of the Electoral College vote. The President of the Senate then declares which persons, if any, have been elected President and Vice President of the United States.
If any objections to the electoral votes are made, they must be submitted in writing and be signed by at least one member of the House and one Senator. If objections are presented, the House and Senate withdraw to their respective chambers to consider the merits of the objection(s) under procedures set out in Federal law.
If no Presidential candidate wins at least 270 electoral votes (a majority of the 538 available votes), under the 12th Amendment to the Constitution the House of Representatives decides the Presidential election. If necessary, the House would elect the President by majority vote, choosing from among the three candidates who received the greatest number of electoral votes. The vote would be taken by State, with each State having one vote. (The District of Columbia does not vote because it doesn't have voting members in the House of Representatives.)
If no Vice Presidential candidate wins at least 270 electoral votes (a majority or the 538 available votes), under the 12th Amendment the Senate elects the Vice President. If necessary, the Senate would elect the Vice President by majority vote, choosing between the two candidates who received the greatest number of electoral votes. Each Senator would have one vote.
January 20, 2021 at Noon—Inauguration Day
The President-elect and Vice President-elect take the Oath of Office and become the President of the United States and Vice President of the United States, respectively.”
While it may seem helpful, there's a whole lot of bluepills in those facts. eg
If any objections to the electoral votes are made, they must be submitted in writing and be signed by at least one member of the House and one Senator.
Keep in mind, much of the above is from unconstitutional laws like the Electoral Count Act, and other US Code which is crap and violates the US Constitution. Congress doesn't have this power, just as the VP doesn't have the power when presiding to toss out Elector votes (the judiciary has the power to decide Constitutional disputes) which is why Pedes shouldn't count on things of statements based on unconstitutional laws, or "legislating from the bench (aka Texas Lawsuit) as a winning strategy.
I’m a little concerned about the possibility that electors have been bribed or blackmailed. There’s been plenty of suspicious behavior by people that don’t seem to be directly involved in fraud. Wondering how deep this rot goes.
All true, but you must add the 1878 Scotus Throckmorton decision which says the fraud, in all legal cases not just elections, invalidates all deadlines and statutes of limitations.
So if conservatives sit out this Georgia run-off and both Dems there should get elected, resulting in a 50-50 split, and suppose the vote for Vice President splits down party lines, what happens?
Yeah maybe Robert Barnes should read this. SCOTUS can block appointment of the 4 states in the suit, which means 270 is no longer a majority since there isn't 538 electors. Only 239 is needed out of the appointed electors, and Biden would win if SCOTUS does that. Can see my other comment here if you want more details.
Barnes is wrong here, the guy is replying to has a valid legal argument that I was making here last night too. Its a serious concern.
The total number of electors does not change, actually. So you may be right that “SCOTUS can block appointment of the 4 states in the suit” but it may incorrect that in that case “270 is no longer a majority since there isn't 538 electors.”
“Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.”
Going off a memory here, but doesn't it have to be a majority of the total amount of electoral votes? IOW 270 is still the magic number? I could be wrong, but I thought I read that specific language somewhere.
Piggybacking your comment for clarity on my main concern with this path to victory. I know we win if it goes to a House vote but like any other time the House convenes, there has to be proper quorum. What's to stop the democrats from simply not showing? Without their presence, no quorum, no vote. Am I wrong in assuming this? Anyone got any insight? Will we get to see them arrested and dragged into the chamber or what?
Quorum in this case involves states. There are Republican congressmen in those states who will show up and vote. If anything, the Democrats not showing up would just swing more states over to the Republican side so let's hope they do exactly that.
hahahah the demonrats tried this with Amy (GOD BLESSED) Comey Barett... Turns out the majority grows even stronger when the whiner party leaves to whine elsewhere.
I'm hoping we've woken up enough that they can effect an aura of calm over some of the low-info MSMorons when the news tells them "Now Drumpf is gonna put all the LGBT and Democrat voters in concentration camps!!"
Normies don't know shit. Just what MSM and big tech tells them.
We have woken up but really only a good chunk of us.
They are scared..... But we must keep growing.
Hijacking because facts:
https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/key-dates
[Emphases mine]
“November 3, 2020—Election Day
(first Tuesday after the first Monday in November)
During the general election your vote helps determine your State's electors. When you vote for a Presidential candidate, you aren't actually voting for President. You are telling your State which candidate you want your State to vote for at the meeting of the electors. The States use these general election results (also known as the popular vote) to appoint their electors. The winning candidate's State political party selects the individuals who will be the electors.
Mid-November through December 14, 2020
After the presidential election, the Governor of your State prepares seven Certificates of Ascertainment. “As soon as practicable,” after the election results in your State are certified, the Governor sends one of those original Certificates of Ascertainment to the Archivist.
By December 8, 2020—States resolve controversies
(at least six days before the meeting of the electors)
States must make final decisions in any controversies over the appointment of their electors at least six days before the meeting of the electors. This is so their electoral votes will be presumed valid when presented to Congress. Decisions by States’ courts are conclusive, if decided under laws enacted before Election Day.
December 14, 2020—electors vote in their States
The electors meet in their respective States and vote for President and Vice President on separate ballots. The electors record their votes on six Certificates of Vote, which are paired with the six remaining Certificates of Ascertainment. The electors sign, seal, and certify six sets of electoral votes. A set of electoral votes consists of one Certificate of Ascertainment and one Certificate of Vote.
December 23, 2020—electoral votes arrive
Electoral votes (the Certificates of Vote) must be received by the President of the Senate and the Archivist no later than nine days after the meeting of the electors. If votes are lost or delayed, the Archivist may take extraordinary measures to retrieve duplicate originals.
On or before January 3, 2021—Archivist transfers Certificates to Congress
As the new Congress assembles, the Archivist transmits sets of Certificates to Congress, as requested. This generally happens when the Senate does not receive its set of Certificates on time. The transfer occurs in late December or early January when OFR’s Legal staff meets with representatives of the Secretary of the Senate and the Clerk of the House.
January 6, 2021—Congress counts the electoral votes
Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes. The Vice President, as President of the Senate, presides over the count and announces the results of the Electoral College vote. The President of the Senate then declares which persons, if any, have been elected President and Vice President of the United States.
If any objections to the electoral votes are made, they must be submitted in writing and be signed by at least one member of the House and one Senator. If objections are presented, the House and Senate withdraw to their respective chambers to consider the merits of the objection(s) under procedures set out in Federal law.
If no Presidential candidate wins at least 270 electoral votes (a majority of the 538 available votes), under the 12th Amendment to the Constitution the House of Representatives decides the Presidential election. If necessary, the House would elect the President by majority vote, choosing from among the three candidates who received the greatest number of electoral votes. The vote would be taken by State, with each State having one vote. (The District of Columbia does not vote because it doesn't have voting members in the House of Representatives.)
If no Vice Presidential candidate wins at least 270 electoral votes (a majority or the 538 available votes), under the 12th Amendment the Senate elects the Vice President. If necessary, the Senate would elect the Vice President by majority vote, choosing between the two candidates who received the greatest number of electoral votes. Each Senator would have one vote.
January 20, 2021 at Noon—Inauguration Day
The President-elect and Vice President-elect take the Oath of Office and become the President of the United States and Vice President of the United States, respectively.”
While it may seem helpful, there's a whole lot of bluepills in those facts. eg
Keep in mind, much of the above is from unconstitutional laws like the Electoral Count Act, and other US Code which is crap and violates the US Constitution. Congress doesn't have this power, just as the VP doesn't have the power when presiding to toss out Elector votes (the judiciary has the power to decide Constitutional disputes) which is why Pedes shouldn't count on things of statements based on unconstitutional laws, or "legislating from the bench (aka Texas Lawsuit) as a winning strategy.
The WIN WIN Plan:
https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8EhtERu/for-everyone-who-wants-djtpence-/
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I’m a little concerned about the possibility that electors have been bribed or blackmailed. There’s been plenty of suspicious behavior by people that don’t seem to be directly involved in fraud. Wondering how deep this rot goes.
All true, but you must add the 1878 Scotus Throckmorton decision which says the fraud, in all legal cases not just elections, invalidates all deadlines and statutes of limitations.
So if conservatives sit out this Georgia run-off and both Dems there should get elected, resulting in a 50-50 split, and suppose the vote for Vice President splits down party lines, what happens?
Pence would break the tie. Pretty sure I know who he would vote for.
Isn't this a big problem, then?
Yeah maybe Robert Barnes should read this. SCOTUS can block appointment of the 4 states in the suit, which means 270 is no longer a majority since there isn't 538 electors. Only 239 is needed out of the appointed electors, and Biden would win if SCOTUS does that. Can see my other comment here if you want more details.
Barnes is wrong here, the guy is replying to has a valid legal argument that I was making here last night too. Its a serious concern.
The total number of electors does not change, actually. So you may be right that “SCOTUS can block appointment of the 4 states in the suit” but it may incorrect that in that case “270 is no longer a majority since there isn't 538 electors.”
Article II
Section 1.
“Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.”
Going off a memory here, but doesn't it have to be a majority of the total amount of electoral votes? IOW 270 is still the magic number? I could be wrong, but I thought I read that specific language somewhere.
recruit a normie conservative a day, to keep communism a bay.
Yup I was a normie now I hate every politician that doesn’t have a spine
Piggybacking your comment for clarity on my main concern with this path to victory. I know we win if it goes to a House vote but like any other time the House convenes, there has to be proper quorum. What's to stop the democrats from simply not showing? Without their presence, no quorum, no vote. Am I wrong in assuming this? Anyone got any insight? Will we get to see them arrested and dragged into the chamber or what?
Quorum in this case involves states. There are Republican congressmen in those states who will show up and vote. If anything, the Democrats not showing up would just swing more states over to the Republican side so let's hope they do exactly that.
hahahah the demonrats tried this with Amy (GOD BLESSED) Comey Barett... Turns out the majority grows even stronger when the whiner party leaves to whine elsewhere.
A quorum would be two-thirds, or 34 states.
Oh shit you're right. Im so stupid i just assumed it would be more than that by a far margin. I am genuinely relieved. Thank you.
no show for work? i think you get written up for that...
I'm hoping we've woken up enough that they can effect an aura of calm over some of the low-info MSMorons when the news tells them "Now Drumpf is gonna put all the LGBT and Democrat voters in concentration camps!!"