Even beyond the strong Constitutionality questions, and Trump's team trying to make a path to SCOTUS with it, there are the massive frauds that haven't been addressed.
Don't listen to the Doomers. This isn't yet at the ammo box!
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If you think this is going to be won in the courts - I really don't think you have been paying attention brother.
I'm just hoping it is, as it involves less blood. We should let these paths play out before we call it quits on the jury box.
It's like shit in one hand and wish in the other and see which gets full first.
Which ones have actually been lost on the merits as compared to standing?
i think you are overgeneralizing. scotus hasn't shown themselves to be corrupt yet (YES I KNOW WE DONT LIKE THE RULING). if they deny a trump case for standing, then have at it.
Yup this doesn’t feel like the real plan. Why would all three of the justices Trump appointed vote against him? There’s more to this story still.
Because they didn't judge the case by its merits, only by the injury caused to Texas (which was none, as Texas voters retained their franchise and will be represented).
This was 100% going to happen IMO, this is 500+ years of common law doctrine - parties who aren't injured can't sue.
That said, there needs to be a path for the states to initiate stuff like this because relying on the President and the Insurrection act as the ultimate backstop to corrupt states violating the Constitution is a poor way of doing things.
We wanted strict Constitutional Justices and that's what we got. In a weird way, I'm kind of glad that they didn't bastardize the Constitution to fit their political leanings. All they said was that the wrong party initiated the lawsuit. Fix that and go back.
Exactly! Screw the doomers on here tonight. Until Trump concedes, neither will I. Hell even if he does I still probably won’t!
Did you read the briefs? We’ve been around a long time. Suits between states are not new. History is the part of the story most people are missing. History is always a big part of the story in SCOTIS cases. It’s one of my interest in reading the cases.
Time for Robers' pedo pictures on the NSA server to declass.
This was the plan before Texas
I read all four defendant briefs. They argued the standing issue in all of them. They were actually pretty convincing. We’ve had all these cases from other attorneys with voters and electors as plaintiffs. I’ve been arguing that standing is likely going to be an issue there too, and many have already been dismissed on standing. Standing against the government has been made a very high bar. We should focus on the ones with Trump as plaintiff. He definitely has standing.