Should have let germany take the soviets out instead of lend leasing them shit. The commies would have been wiped from russia and china. Roosevelt loved him some uncle joe
That would have been trading one banker backed evil (commies) for another (nazis).
Yes, the globalist bankers backed them too. Check out wall street support for nazis, especially in 1933, or Prescott Bush. Don’t forget Smedley Butler!
The bankers also supported Mussolini and other fascists. They even had a fascist movement in Canada which is related to todays’ Liberal Party! They pumped funds into communists and fascists, polarized most of the world, and then let loose.
How many millions of American, German, Russian, Japanese, and other patriots were culled?
How many globalist banker interests were harmed? Who immediately began dictating global financial rules, paperclipping and working alongside the nazis with whom they supposedly shared a mutual hatred, writing history (for example, we never saw the death camps, they were all behind the iron curtain, so we only had Ivan’s word on it), and enjoying the spoils of war, if not the globalist bankers? And who lost?
I think it’s important that we remember why that generation fought and died in WW2. For trans kids, of course. If an after life exists, and they can see the world they created, do you think they would regret their decisions?
The false dichotomy in your post is that we must be nazis to oppose degeneracy.
If our brave forefathers fought instead for the nazis, they’d have been equally dismayed to see the bankers win.
Seriously, did you look up Prescott Bush’s support for the nazis? Do you suppose Prescott was a rebel in the Bush family? Do you suppose GW and friends spit on his grave for having supported the supposedly anti-globalist nazis?
No tell me, Ive never heard this story before?. Tell me the hollywood version that we grew up with though. You know the one where it took several world super powers and millions of lives to defeat those evil huns who wanted to take over the whole world apparently. Giving half the planet to the commies was a dandy wasnt it? Totally worked out in our favor and europes favor. China as well. All good things. If the boys a Normandy and Iwo Jima saw what this country, china, and europe was going to turn into, they would have never gotten off those boats. Very thankful for roosevelt planting the seeds of communism here. It has worked out great!
I don't know that we should have allied with anyone. We should have maintained neutrality and sold resources to both sides as long as they would have been willing to pay. It was never our fight.
That's what we did. Then Japan bombed Pearl Harbor and the next day Germany declared war on us.
We didn't have a choice about what side we were on when Germany declared war.
We shouldn't have stopped at Germany. We should have listened to Patton and we should have kept marching into Russia and China and put an end to all the communist bullshit like he wanted. But Roosevelt pulled him back and then made him retire.
This was a fatal mistake. We could have stopped it once Germany surrendered. We could have snuffed it all out right then, right there.
I fear that will be our undoing. If anyone is still alive to write it in the history books.
That's definitely not what we did. We went out of our way to corner Japan and attempt to starve them, using the exact same process we have in numerous countries since. Look up the Japan oil embargo. Tell me if any country, like China, attempted that to us today, that we wouldn't consider it an act of war.
I agree, if we had already been entangled on the wrong side, we should have kept going. But at that point, we already determined the ideology that would rule the world going forward, we may have in fact deprived it of a moderating force of Stalin. Trotsky, not Stalin, is the father of movements like BLM and Antifa.
We maybe could've beaten China at that point, but why? They weren't a threat. You're looking back with 75 years of hindsight. Try figuring out what to do now ...
The US government exclusively supported the "allies" before joining that war, despite there being public support for Germany very early on and for Adolf prior to conflict with Britain. The US put selective pressure on Japan, depleting their access to fuel which forced them into striking the US, in a reckless gamble to cease embargoes placed on them. All part of the bankers and deep state of the time's plan, Germany was obligated to declare war on behalf of Japan and was already dealing with US equipment, vehicles and pilots as it was, so the US was never neutral at all.
Wrong, it was our fight from the beginning because it was a speculator/banker war. Nationalism versus international communism. Bankers had been funding socialist and communist parties to overthrow the old monarchies for decades leading up to WWI and WWII, and it still does not stop today as they endlessly throw resources at crushing any sort of nationalist or populist uprisings in every country the world over.
International Communism is no different than a bullshit puppet government ruled by "new" ultra-rich oligarchs with the money and connections to place themselves into positions of power under a new government after destroying the previous one from within through funded revolts and subversion campaigns.
Nazis couldn't "win." We lost basically one battle against Japan. USSR would've been out of the picture had we not bailed them out. Germany would still control Europe. (Wait ...)
Holy shit. Didn't think I'd see people here say this. Glad to see that we're waking up. (Some of us, at least.)
General Patton realized we were tricked into fighting for the wrong side and began to speak out about it. He was in a car "accident" shortly afterward, which he died from a couple weeks later.
Anyone who questions this should look up what General Patton said about WW2 before his death. Hint: "We have defeated the wrong enemy."
How are open-door immigration policies, anti-white racism, gender queer agendas, destruction of the national identity, and censorship of all traditional values a Fascism agenda? The left is literally telling you what they are, repeatedly and loudly.
State and corporate cooperation is also the current state of affairs in Communist China. We live in a world where the corporations control the states. That meets neither the definition of Fascism nor Communism, but the ideology they are striving for clearly has every social hallmark of Communism and none of Fascism. What we are witnessing is the functional evolution of Marxist ideology to a corporate, information age.
Those in charge want feudalism. We are serfs, paupers, or dead. They live like Kings. They only share as little as necessary to have their enforcers (Knights) keep the riff raff in line.
Capitalism, communism, fascism - none of that matters to them.
That's a good way to put it. What they want isn't really ideological. Those in power are not stupid enough to believe in ideology. They simply want power and wealth. To the extent they express or promote any ideology, it is in the hope of attaining more of those.
No, we are experiencing International Communism as it moves towards its end-game, which just so happens to be the same as the International Crony Capitalist end-game: a neo-feudal oligarchy of unelected dictators that rule the world through money, power and control over every minutiae of people's lives. If you don't see how this aligns perfectly with China's example, a prototype social credit system and the complete tracking of everyone's personal details by big tech companies... well, then you have been blind this whole time.
A general by the name of Franco in Spain dealt with communist uprisings before, with a mixture of loyal populist and nationalist factions of the military behind him. He accomplished seizing control of the government and his country, ruling over Spain and immediately began reforms, he gladly gave it back to the powers of a parliamentary constitutional monarchy when his time was up; knowing full-well that a dictatorship cannot last, as the potential next-in-line can not be trusted to hold the previous dictator's singular goal: to serve his people. During that time-frame he knew that action needed to be taken swiftly and harshly, or Spain would fall to the disease; he was a fascist and is still hated by all the Marxists in power today. Luckily, since they were never a major power, his name hasn't been handed down into public school books to indoctrinate children into hating him without cause or reason, perhaps moreso he is ignored for fear that people would stop believing that fascism is a synonym for evil.
In the fight we are, and will undoubtedly be experiencing eventually, as history has shown us, an authoritarian nationalist force will not only be desired, but necessary in order to defeat the equally authoritarian but vastly more oppressive force of cultural Marxism and communism and its forced servitude known as equity (or equality of outcome).
Japan attacked Pearl Harbor because America blocked oil imports from the "Allies" to Japan, which was fighting a war with what would eventually become Communist China. It was intended as a death sentence to Japan.
Let me get even more Alex Jones on the matter. Compare the ship casualties at Pearl Harbor to the naval forces stationed there. Notice that the ships there to be sunk excluded the aircraft carriers and other modern ships. Most of what was lost was of little value if a war broke out and was quickly replaced. Except, of course, the sailors who lost their lives on those ships.
Germany still declared war on America because we were giving arms to the UK. So no matter what, we would have been pulled in from that fact alone.
And Japan did FUCKED things to the Chinese. Like fucking war crimes dude. That we didn't try them for. The Rape of Nanjing isn't a metaphor. They were testing nerve gas and shit on them too. That's why the Chinese fucking HATE the Japanese. Even now. China would love nothing more than to ethnically cleanse the Japanese. Then the Koreans after that.
I seriously worry for Japan. If the US can't keep China in check, they're going to wipe them out. And for what it's worth, Japan is a legit ally to us. Not only militarily, but they have MAGA rallies and shit over there. BLM tried to get a rally/riot going in Japan and they literally called them faggots and ignored them. I remember seeing the messages. The Japanese called them faggots then a slur of racial insults and that was that.
China wants to eradicate Japan. And if we're just going to roll over for Xi, they're going to. And there will be no one to stop it.
Germany declared war on the side of Japan. Either way, that all happened in the context of America for years arming and supplying all Germany's enemies, including the Soviet Union, while embargoing them. If we actually took a neutral stance from the very beginning, no one would have wanted war with us.
As for war crimes, everyone did that sort of thing back then. Including America. Hell, we kept testing garbage on our own troops until, possibly, relatively recent times. If you believe we ever stopped.
I think Japan has themselves covered these days. They have a massive totally-not-a-military-really-guys Self Defense Force, some of the most advanced technology on the planet (including real military mech suits and robots), and a large number of operating nuclear plants. If they see America going down, I believe they will take the right measures.
I can agree on China. I think modern day China much more closely fits a fascist model than a communist model. However, they promote actual communism around the world, because it weakens their enemies. China is also promoted by the left-corporatists that run the majority of the US.
You're committing to being so boldy wrong I suspect you're not serious about any of it (or you're a schizoposter). Either way, don't listen to this guy: he's twisting events into a tortured nonsensical historical narrative.
We were on the wrong side and thousands of good men died fighting on false pretense. We shouldn't have embargoed Japan's oil over them invading China.
Should have let germany take the soviets out instead of lend leasing them shit. The commies would have been wiped from russia and china. Roosevelt loved him some uncle joe
That would have been trading one banker backed evil (commies) for another (nazis).
Yes, the globalist bankers backed them too. Check out wall street support for nazis, especially in 1933, or Prescott Bush. Don’t forget Smedley Butler!
The bankers also supported Mussolini and other fascists. They even had a fascist movement in Canada which is related to todays’ Liberal Party! They pumped funds into communists and fascists, polarized most of the world, and then let loose.
How many millions of American, German, Russian, Japanese, and other patriots were culled?
How many globalist banker interests were harmed? Who immediately began dictating global financial rules, paperclipping and working alongside the nazis with whom they supposedly shared a mutual hatred, writing history (for example, we never saw the death camps, they were all behind the iron curtain, so we only had Ivan’s word on it), and enjoying the spoils of war, if not the globalist bankers? And who lost?
I think it’s important that we remember why that generation fought and died in WW2. For trans kids, of course. If an after life exists, and they can see the world they created, do you think they would regret their decisions?
The false dichotomy in your post is that we must be nazis to oppose degeneracy.
If our brave forefathers fought instead for the nazis, they’d have been equally dismayed to see the bankers win.
Seriously, did you look up Prescott Bush’s support for the nazis? Do you suppose Prescott was a rebel in the Bush family? Do you suppose GW and friends spit on his grave for having supported the supposedly anti-globalist nazis?
(((They))) always control both sides.
No tell me, Ive never heard this story before?. Tell me the hollywood version that we grew up with though. You know the one where it took several world super powers and millions of lives to defeat those evil huns who wanted to take over the whole world apparently. Giving half the planet to the commies was a dandy wasnt it? Totally worked out in our favor and europes favor. China as well. All good things. If the boys a Normandy and Iwo Jima saw what this country, china, and europe was going to turn into, they would have never gotten off those boats. Very thankful for roosevelt planting the seeds of communism here. It has worked out great!
You need to do a bit more research if you think it was that black and white.
We were on the wrong side all the way. We should have allied with Germany and Japan, and destroyed communism together.
All we did is make the world safe for communism.
I don't know that we should have allied with anyone. We should have maintained neutrality and sold resources to both sides as long as they would have been willing to pay. It was never our fight.
That's what we did. Then Japan bombed Pearl Harbor and the next day Germany declared war on us.
We didn't have a choice about what side we were on when Germany declared war.
We shouldn't have stopped at Germany. We should have listened to Patton and we should have kept marching into Russia and China and put an end to all the communist bullshit like he wanted. But Roosevelt pulled him back and then made him retire.
This was a fatal mistake. We could have stopped it once Germany surrendered. We could have snuffed it all out right then, right there.
I fear that will be our undoing. If anyone is still alive to write it in the history books.
That's definitely not what we did. We went out of our way to corner Japan and attempt to starve them, using the exact same process we have in numerous countries since. Look up the Japan oil embargo. Tell me if any country, like China, attempted that to us today, that we wouldn't consider it an act of war.
I agree, if we had already been entangled on the wrong side, we should have kept going. But at that point, we already determined the ideology that would rule the world going forward, we may have in fact deprived it of a moderating force of Stalin. Trotsky, not Stalin, is the father of movements like BLM and Antifa.
We didn't sell to both sides.
You kids need to learn some history, wtf!
We couldn't have beat the USSR. (Again, history?)
We maybe could've beaten China at that point, but why? They weren't a threat. You're looking back with 75 years of hindsight. Try figuring out what to do now ...
The US government exclusively supported the "allies" before joining that war, despite there being public support for Germany very early on and for Adolf prior to conflict with Britain. The US put selective pressure on Japan, depleting their access to fuel which forced them into striking the US, in a reckless gamble to cease embargoes placed on them. All part of the bankers and deep state of the time's plan, Germany was obligated to declare war on behalf of Japan and was already dealing with US equipment, vehicles and pilots as it was, so the US was never neutral at all.
Wrong, it was our fight from the beginning because it was a speculator/banker war. Nationalism versus international communism. Bankers had been funding socialist and communist parties to overthrow the old monarchies for decades leading up to WWI and WWII, and it still does not stop today as they endlessly throw resources at crushing any sort of nationalist or populist uprisings in every country the world over.
International Communism is no different than a bullshit puppet government ruled by "new" ultra-rich oligarchs with the money and connections to place themselves into positions of power under a new government after destroying the previous one from within through funded revolts and subversion campaigns.
Nazis couldn't "win." We lost basically one battle against Japan. USSR would've been out of the picture had we not bailed them out. Germany would still control Europe. (Wait ...)
Holy shit. Didn't think I'd see people here say this. Glad to see that we're waking up. (Some of us, at least.)
General Patton realized we were tricked into fighting for the wrong side and began to speak out about it. He was in a car "accident" shortly afterward, which he died from a couple weeks later.
Anyone who questions this should look up what General Patton said about WW2 before his death. Hint: "We have defeated the wrong enemy."
How are open-door immigration policies, anti-white racism, gender queer agendas, destruction of the national identity, and censorship of all traditional values a Fascism agenda? The left is literally telling you what they are, repeatedly and loudly.
State and corporate cooperation is also the current state of affairs in Communist China. We live in a world where the corporations control the states. That meets neither the definition of Fascism nor Communism, but the ideology they are striving for clearly has every social hallmark of Communism and none of Fascism. What we are witnessing is the functional evolution of Marxist ideology to a corporate, information age.
Those in charge want feudalism. We are serfs, paupers, or dead. They live like Kings. They only share as little as necessary to have their enforcers (Knights) keep the riff raff in line.
Capitalism, communism, fascism - none of that matters to them.
We only lose if we don't fight.
That's a good way to put it. What they want isn't really ideological. Those in power are not stupid enough to believe in ideology. They simply want power and wealth. To the extent they express or promote any ideology, it is in the hope of attaining more of those.
No, we are experiencing International Communism as it moves towards its end-game, which just so happens to be the same as the International Crony Capitalist end-game: a neo-feudal oligarchy of unelected dictators that rule the world through money, power and control over every minutiae of people's lives. If you don't see how this aligns perfectly with China's example, a prototype social credit system and the complete tracking of everyone's personal details by big tech companies... well, then you have been blind this whole time.
A general by the name of Franco in Spain dealt with communist uprisings before, with a mixture of loyal populist and nationalist factions of the military behind him. He accomplished seizing control of the government and his country, ruling over Spain and immediately began reforms, he gladly gave it back to the powers of a parliamentary constitutional monarchy when his time was up; knowing full-well that a dictatorship cannot last, as the potential next-in-line can not be trusted to hold the previous dictator's singular goal: to serve his people. During that time-frame he knew that action needed to be taken swiftly and harshly, or Spain would fall to the disease; he was a fascist and is still hated by all the Marxists in power today. Luckily, since they were never a major power, his name hasn't been handed down into public school books to indoctrinate children into hating him without cause or reason, perhaps moreso he is ignored for fear that people would stop believing that fascism is a synonym for evil.
In the fight we are, and will undoubtedly be experiencing eventually, as history has shown us, an authoritarian nationalist force will not only be desired, but necessary in order to defeat the equally authoritarian but vastly more oppressive force of cultural Marxism and communism and its forced servitude known as equity (or equality of outcome).
I wish I could read the real history of these places. Spain, Chile... I mean, I know the gist of it, but I want it all.
Tomaytoes/tomahtoes
For anyone wandering, this is incorrect.
hmm?
Japan attacked Pearl Harbor because America blocked oil imports from the "Allies" to Japan, which was fighting a war with what would eventually become Communist China. It was intended as a death sentence to Japan.
Let me get even more Alex Jones on the matter. Compare the ship casualties at Pearl Harbor to the naval forces stationed there. Notice that the ships there to be sunk excluded the aircraft carriers and other modern ships. Most of what was lost was of little value if a war broke out and was quickly replaced. Except, of course, the sailors who lost their lives on those ships.
This has been going on longer than anyone knows.
Germany still declared war on America because we were giving arms to the UK. So no matter what, we would have been pulled in from that fact alone.
And Japan did FUCKED things to the Chinese. Like fucking war crimes dude. That we didn't try them for. The Rape of Nanjing isn't a metaphor. They were testing nerve gas and shit on them too. That's why the Chinese fucking HATE the Japanese. Even now. China would love nothing more than to ethnically cleanse the Japanese. Then the Koreans after that.
I seriously worry for Japan. If the US can't keep China in check, they're going to wipe them out. And for what it's worth, Japan is a legit ally to us. Not only militarily, but they have MAGA rallies and shit over there. BLM tried to get a rally/riot going in Japan and they literally called them faggots and ignored them. I remember seeing the messages. The Japanese called them faggots then a slur of racial insults and that was that.
China wants to eradicate Japan. And if we're just going to roll over for Xi, they're going to. And there will be no one to stop it.
Germany declared war on the side of Japan. Either way, that all happened in the context of America for years arming and supplying all Germany's enemies, including the Soviet Union, while embargoing them. If we actually took a neutral stance from the very beginning, no one would have wanted war with us.
As for war crimes, everyone did that sort of thing back then. Including America. Hell, we kept testing garbage on our own troops until, possibly, relatively recent times. If you believe we ever stopped.
I think Japan has themselves covered these days. They have a massive totally-not-a-military-really-guys Self Defense Force, some of the most advanced technology on the planet (including real military mech suits and robots), and a large number of operating nuclear plants. If they see America going down, I believe they will take the right measures.
WWII is over, and the clique of Japanese militarists that started it are long defeated and dead. We should have started rearming Japan in about 1955.
... Guys maybe we should move to Japan I think I like their way of thinking.
They were out doing exercises thats why they werent in pearl harbor to be bombed
Yes, exactly.
They didn’t sink the aircraft carrier’s because they weren’t there.
I can agree on China. I think modern day China much more closely fits a fascist model than a communist model. However, they promote actual communism around the world, because it weakens their enemies. China is also promoted by the left-corporatists that run the majority of the US.
Please elucidate on what you really mean by "emboldening Hitler's vision"
You're committing to being so boldy wrong I suspect you're not serious about any of it (or you're a schizoposter). Either way, don't listen to this guy: he's twisting events into a tortured nonsensical historical narrative.
How do you suppose to re-write history such that the oil embargo on Japan prior to Pearl Harbor wasn't entirely necessary?
It was as necessary as going into Iraq for WMDs.