That wouldn't be standing as a matter of law, it would be ripeness. They basically held that Texas didn't have standing, which means that they didn't have authority to sue. I wish anon was right, but they are not here.
If it was just about the electors being not seated yet so not causing harm then surely they would have just waited a few days before saying anything about the case, right? No one forced them to come out and say this today causing a ton of anger instead of just waiting until Dec 14th.
Correct. SCOTUS wants no part of this case. They've already abdicated their responsibility pre-election, which allowed the shenanigans in PA to happen.
They keep on shifting goalposts with ripeness and standing nonsense. State courts have used ridiculous latches. It's not ripe to sue prior to the election. Latches stops you from doing it afterward and only a handful of people have standing. It's patently ridiculous.
The fix is in from the swamp. Hopefully, GEOTUS and Rudy pull the inside straight and win, but the swamp right now is fucking disgusting.
Like a children's guessing game. What a great system! Sounds like an absolutely retarded way of solving things. Lawyers... fucking idiots since forever...
I imagine the window between sending electors, and the electors voting, will be small. So, best that this case be brought by a party with standing (in the eyes of SCOTUS). Thanks.
Then it will be “well yeah, we let the pedothief be inaugurated, but so far he’s only been sniffing kids, so you really haven’t been harmed”
“Well yeah, premier Harris, the first of her name, is sending you to the gulag, but your thinking really was wrong, and you haven’t been re-educated yet so you haven’t been harmed.”
Are you fucking high? That will never happen no way not in a million years. You seriously need to come back to reality man. They won't vote for Trump even if they had mountains of irrefutable evidence of fraud.
All 3 of Trump's Justices voting it down seems fishy to me - almost like it's coordinated. Maybe after it's certified, SCOTUS can take the case and disqualify electors from those states, sending it to the House. Just a thought, don't quote me on it.
I’ve had similar thoughts as you. People are only taken seriously when distanced from Trump.
This same impartial thing also crossed my mind with Barr a few days ago and with Trump in his most important speech specifically stating Durham is a man he’s never met.
All creating distance before the hammer drops. Then I wonder if I’ve just seen to many movies where the good guys win in the last few minutes. Their leaving it fucking late if they have an ace up their sleeve.
so, if Texas can't file before the electoral college votes, that would imply scotus will change or disqualify states that certify fraudulent results.. which is better I think than letting their legislatures decide, since they could still cast votes for Biden
I have a hard time believing some anon on 4chan can “deboonk” a SCOTUS ruling in 1 paragraph, but here I am. It seems a little far fetched, I just don’t know enough about law to say either way.
Nah, I don't believe this. The Texas filing was correctly written and had lots of support. Two brave justices, Thomas and Alito, signed on. The other justices...well, they 'Resisted.' They don't want any part of this hot potato.
"Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections." ... which is patently absurd.
Alito Thomas even say that as a matter of real law and the constitution they don't think the Supreme Court is EVEN allowed to refuse to hear this type of claim.
Anyways back to the fraud cases/appeals. The best possible interpretation is that they want the case they do take in the end to focus on that aspect(rather than state election procedures themselves). But it certainly at this point smells like they want to do nothing. These are cases where they won't be allowed to bring more evidence, just plead that other courts shit the bed on the decision. As a matter of law they would win that too.
I am becoming somewhat black pilled on the idea that law exists, however.
Can you actually challenge the electoral college votes? If the cucked states still send Biden electors and they vote Biden in, we can still overturn that?
I keep seeing people point to lack of standing in this case meaning that the harm hasn't occured yet but the very statement issued by SCOTUS says as reasoning that they have no interest in how other states conduct their elections. That's not saying harm hasn't occurred yet they're saying Texas cannot claim harm from another states unconstitutional actions, what am I missing?
Just....no. If that was the case then SCOTUS would have waited until they vote early next week and taken the case. They wouldn't have thrown it out if that were the case.
lmao. there's literally no case to be cracked. SCOTUS said fuck you, fuck America and fuck the constitution. CCP money was too sweet to resist for them.
No, this is the complete opposite of what every court has ruled on so far... Courts have said they should've filed before injury. This is fucking wrong.
So this ruling, we should be able to pre-emptively sue for injuring ourselves in some building before it happens? What's to keep everyone from suing everyone if that's the case?
So we should just keep waiting around right? This is the 10th big event that we've been disappointed by, why in the heck do you think this is going to be any different?
This whole 'you can only seek redress for the harm after the harm has already occurred' does you no good if you have just been shot in the head. Or raped, or set on fire, or been poisoned. Maybe you will win a court case but spending the rest of your life suffering and in pain is a stupid fucking compromise.
THESE FUCKING GOAL POSTS BRO...
I'll fuckin' be Sisyfos if I have to.
Bet our SEAL teams could do it. We have the best seals, don't we folks?
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That wouldn't be standing as a matter of law, it would be ripeness. They basically held that Texas didn't have standing, which means that they didn't have authority to sue. I wish anon was right, but they are not here.
If it was just about the electors being not seated yet so not causing harm then surely they would have just waited a few days before saying anything about the case, right? No one forced them to come out and say this today causing a ton of anger instead of just waiting until Dec 14th.
Correct. SCOTUS wants no part of this case. They've already abdicated their responsibility pre-election, which allowed the shenanigans in PA to happen.
They keep on shifting goalposts with ripeness and standing nonsense. State courts have used ridiculous latches. It's not ripe to sue prior to the election. Latches stops you from doing it afterward and only a handful of people have standing. It's patently ridiculous.
The fix is in from the swamp. Hopefully, GEOTUS and Rudy pull the inside straight and win, but the swamp right now is fucking disgusting.
THERE ARE LEVELS TO THIS SHIT!
Like a children's guessing game. What a great system! Sounds like an absolutely retarded way of solving things. Lawyers... fucking idiots since forever...
When 4chan is the voice of reason...
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I imagine the window between sending electors, and the electors voting, will be small. So, best that this case be brought by a party with standing (in the eyes of SCOTUS). Thanks.
Texas has standing though
scotus position is bullshit
Yeah dude
And then Scotus will say “they are not inaugurated yet so you havent been harmed”
this poster has a stupid, fake argument
Then it will be “well yeah, we let the pedothief be inaugurated, but so far he’s only been sniffing kids, so you really haven’t been harmed”
“Well yeah, premier Harris, the first of her name, is sending you to the gulag, but your thinking really was wrong, and you haven’t been re-educated yet so you haven’t been harmed.”
Ad infinitum.
yep
If that’s TL we got some lazy pedes on this site; excellent post
Are you fucking high? That will never happen no way not in a million years. You seriously need to come back to reality man. They won't vote for Trump even if they had mountains of irrefutable evidence of fraud.
If the electors have already cast their votes, is it possible (without recourse to war) to undo the vote once done?
Yes. When the votes are counted in January. I believe that's happened at least once when Nixon was VP. But that's really far fetched.
Don't they vote on monday?
All 3 of Trump's Justices voting it down seems fishy to me - almost like it's coordinated. Maybe after it's certified, SCOTUS can take the case and disqualify electors from those states, sending it to the House. Just a thought, don't quote me on it.
Bingo! We don't stoop to their level but they are way more effective than we are at getting their way.
I assume it's for the Trump appointees to appear impartial. Where then we can again reference that they would take it after actual harm has been done.
I’ve had similar thoughts as you. People are only taken seriously when distanced from Trump.
This same impartial thing also crossed my mind with Barr a few days ago and with Trump in his most important speech specifically stating Durham is a man he’s never met.
All creating distance before the hammer drops. Then I wonder if I’ve just seen to many movies where the good guys win in the last few minutes. Their leaving it fucking late if they have an ace up their sleeve.
hm. well that's not a bad point about referencing all of Article III.
but they specifically referenced it as a reason they didn't have standing. which is the mind-boggling opposite of what it says in Section 2.
but I dont know I will take any explanation for that truly bizarre ruling.
Yeah, and they file afterward and the court goes “laches, bye!”
But VP is on the same ticket and gets decided by electors as well.
so, if Texas can't file before the electoral college votes, that would imply scotus will change or disqualify states that certify fraudulent results.. which is better I think than letting their legislatures decide, since they could still cast votes for Biden
We can only hope. Seeing it play out like this doesn't give a lot of hope though.
Lawyers and SCOTUS hopelessly autistic if true.
I have a hard time believing some anon on 4chan can “deboonk” a SCOTUS ruling in 1 paragraph, but here I am. It seems a little far fetched, I just don’t know enough about law to say either way.
Nah, I don't believe this. The Texas filing was correctly written and had lots of support. Two brave justices, Thomas and Alito, signed on. The other justices...well, they 'Resisted.' They don't want any part of this hot potato.
So once again "we toss out your case because too early"
Lemme explain why this is bullshit. If this were the case, the court would have simply waited until Dec 14 to respond.
Look at it this way, at least the Dems won't be court packing. They already have a 7-2 super majority.
Stop coping. Thomas and Alito are the only two up there on our side.
"Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections." ... which is patently absurd.
Alito Thomas even say that as a matter of real law and the constitution they don't think the Supreme Court is EVEN allowed to refuse to hear this type of claim.
Anyways back to the fraud cases/appeals. The best possible interpretation is that they want the case they do take in the end to focus on that aspect(rather than state election procedures themselves). But it certainly at this point smells like they want to do nothing. These are cases where they won't be allowed to bring more evidence, just plead that other courts shit the bed on the decision. As a matter of law they would win that too. I am becoming somewhat black pilled on the idea that law exists, however.
Can you actually challenge the electoral college votes? If the cucked states still send Biden electors and they vote Biden in, we can still overturn that?
Yes.
I keep seeing people point to lack of standing in this case meaning that the harm hasn't occured yet but the very statement issued by SCOTUS says as reasoning that they have no interest in how other states conduct their elections. That's not saying harm hasn't occurred yet they're saying Texas cannot claim harm from another states unconstitutional actions, what am I missing?
I think they created that reason because they were too cowardly to take the case
Just....no. If that was the case then SCOTUS would have waited until they vote early next week and taken the case. They wouldn't have thrown it out if that were the case.
lmao. there's literally no case to be cracked. SCOTUS said fuck you, fuck America and fuck the constitution. CCP money was too sweet to resist for them.
fuck SCOTUS!!!
doesn’t matter our constitution is null and void.
May war be upon us.
I'm gonna wait til Joe Biden has nutted in my ass before I call him a rapist
THAT. Is reading a lot into the SCOTUS rejection.
No, this is the complete opposite of what every court has ruled on so far... Courts have said they should've filed before injury. This is fucking wrong.
So this ruling, we should be able to pre-emptively sue for injuring ourselves in some building before it happens? What's to keep everyone from suing everyone if that's the case?
That's what has been confusing the entire time...
That picasso moon reference tho (~):}
So we should just keep waiting around right? This is the 10th big event that we've been disappointed by, why in the heck do you think this is going to be any different?
And after they throw it out after the electors vote we can try again on Jan 21st! Oh boy, then they can throw it out again!
All I see is cope when we should be thinking about the reality of the situation.
Can a system so fundamentally broken correct itself?
I'll believe it when I see it. They've got now to Jan 20th to unfuck this mess.
I feel 0.022% better, Thank You!
This whole 'you can only seek redress for the harm after the harm has already occurred' does you no good if you have just been shot in the head. Or raped, or set on fire, or been poisoned. Maybe you will win a court case but spending the rest of your life suffering and in pain is a stupid fucking compromise.