There was a technical reason the Texas claim wasn't accepted, but here's the thing:
Ever hear of 'exhausting your administrative remedy'?
Explanation because the thread blew up and it's clear this wasn't clear to everyone. I was trying to get your noggins to jog:
It's simple: he has to run this through the existing Courts to see if they are going to correct the issue or not. He has to give them a chance. Not unlike if we had a disagreement and I tried to resolve it before running before a Judge to get the Court to intervene. Usually this phrase refers to pre-Court process attempted, but then again, usually I'm not the President in charge of SOCOM.
Judges accept all cases THEN change the definition of words or processes to decide in favor of Lefty causes.
Traditional values like votes, honesty, merit, free speech, fair press, and other things, are all but eliminated.
Lawlessness, chaos, identity politics, globalism is all that matters to courts, law enforcement (cops, fbi, foj,...), government admins, corporations, schools, media, sports, Hollywood, and the rest of them.
Exactly. Covid isn't going away. Anyone who thinks it is, even with a "vaccine" are kidding themselves. Liberal leadership loves it, and the sheeple gibmedats are all in line. They're going to push mask mandates and limit social gatherings forever "due to an abundance of caution." All elections will be held by mail to stop the spread of "potential pathogens." The Republic is over. What no one seems to grasp is that our freedom and democracy officially died in March, the second anyone complied with and went along with the pandemic scam. It was never about stopping a virus. It's always been about sizing power. And boy now they have it and they won't ever give it up. Welcome to the People's Republic.
I spread redpills..and talk to my neighbors . They don't vote at all. Couldn't care less who's in charge.
But I woke a few up. Not as manyv as we need, but more than we had
that is part of the problem. I see a lot of people day to day and they are blindly going along. Don't believe the truth and have TDS and have totally bought the lie of the media. However some are waking up
Digging into Purdue, not sure on Loeffler, but Purdue seems unipartt fuck to me. On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being GEOTUS and 10 being Mitt Romney this dude looks to be a solid 7.
They've been rigged for decades. Most of you were asleep. Some of us are really happy that this has become the number one issue and many state legislatures are going to be making massive changes to their election laws.
My state is going Voter ID and only paper ballots according to their rhetoric the last week or so and I trust they will do just that. If this happens all over the country the USA has a bright future.
I don't share your optimism at all. Sure some reps are calling for changes, but nothing significant will change (there is no incentive to for the majority of people with power, as current events demonstrate quite well). We already had laws to prevent much of this anyway, just they weren't enforced. More laws (if magically they are able to pass them which I don't believe for a second) isn't going to do a thing unless people are thrown in jail tomorrow and made an example of in the media (won't happen). Even if we get some token law passed, what are we going to do when 20 million+ illegals become citizens and can vote legally? What are we going to do when they pack the courts and the senate with new states? What about when big tech, big media, and academia completely indoctrinate our existing and future generations? What are we going to do when the cheaters just fix all the "mistakes" they made this time so it's even harder to catch them?
Bright future? I'd love to believe but I just don't see it.
You dont get it. Trump got 80+ million votes while every entity you named was against him and more you didnt. You act like this shit hasnt been going on for a century. Never have so many people been aware of it.
Do yourself a favor and read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" It all starts there in a sense. Some will argue it was earlier and they are probably right.
I'm in Texas and will never vote in another POTUS election. We can be as red as we want but if the blue states' elections are rigged, what's the point?
Remember the 20,000 fake IDs they found in Chicago? Remember when a pipe burst, everyone was sent home and suitcases filled with fake paper ballots were scanned? I remember.
He's right, the fraud only matters in democrat cities in swing states. You can have your little honest votes in every town in america and it won't matter if 5-6 corrupt cities come up with hundreds of thousands of imaginary democratic votes.
Dude I reached that point like fucking years ago. I can't remember the last time any process brought me any justice, much less this one. It's time for war.
I could accept the supreme decisions under two provisions:
1, that TX lacks standing because the electoral college votes on the fraud states have already been (or will be) invalidated. Which means these votes dont overrule/disenfranchise the TX college votes hence no damage to TX voters. Which hands the election to POTUS. Ruling that these EC votes are invalid would be big news if so.. and hasn't happened yet.
Or 2, that the court is just putting the issue on hold until after the fraud states have directed their fraudulent electoral college votes at which time TX indisputably has standing. In which case they perhaps ought have made this clear, a lot of people think this what justices Alito/Thomas were hinting at, that the case needs re-filing immediately after this has happened.
Outcomes other than this I think have made the case that the court is itself the problem - one additional group of felons among many others.
I like your thinking. Hope it turns out to be true. I also see this Supreme Court lawsuit and decision as a "dry run". Remember that Lion Ted is on our side ... so it shouldn't be a surprise this effort coming from his state.
Then, the job has been done to let the public know the US Supreme Court is impartial because that is what matters most in terms of validity and when Trump ends up winning those states and carrying the votes. Bearing in mind how much control social media and msm outlets vent on their audience. So, to prevent a civil war basically from the left side, focusing on Democrats.
Haha yes, we are highly esteemed as "deplorables" and "nazis" because we love our country and we want everyone to be free. We must speak with a dictum that obviates our worldly prestige! Bleh! We are MAGA. We are not going away because some idiot says something bad about us. If we must fight, then we will fight. If we must be patient, then we will subvert the communists and defeat them in the information war. We stand ready, and we will not lose. Ours is a worthy cause. What is the left's worthy cause? Killing black babies?
Especially since everyone calls us all kinds of Nazi racist bigots just for not agreeing with liberal policies or ideas. Fuck the "people we look bad to"
We already look bad to them because we have white skin. White skin means we are all Nazis bro. We are the most evil on the planet because of white skin! Didnt in propaganda they said that the Germans ate babies and its was all just a lie.
Optics can be important in politics. It can make or break a candidate or movement. But this is entering a less political stage now so I understand saying fuck the optics.
People have every right to be pissed off and worried right now. This suit was pretty cut and dry. Those states didn't ratify their election laws in the way the constitution tells the states.
Should we have expected this from the pussy court? Probably. They are the most useless people in the country. Appointed for life, they don't have to hear shit. Well who else has jurisdiction over state disputes? Fuck scotus. Good try alito and Thomas, but it wasn't enough. It's time to start showing our muscle. Sit back and watch our way of life be memory holed? Or fight and go to prison or disappeared? Might as well take as many commies with me if I'm going down.
This country is on thin ice. A big enough quarrel between two sides will result in foreign intervention.
They are smart and won't just end your way of life instantly.
Just like his they've seized the ultimate power here, they'll slowly chip away at your rights bit by bit, all the while maintaining a smiley happy face.
The media will champion each small move as some kind a benefit to all and before you know it you are disarmed.
Just like the frog in boiling water.
They know heavy reactions will trigger a violent response so expect your destruction to be over many slow years.
Right now I'm thinking we no longer need lifetime appointments for SCOTUS judges. Who thought it was a good idea appointing the most powerful people on the planet to lifetime appointments? Might as well be Royalty, exactly what we do Not want in America.
it also would be the best time to intervene and most likely would happen like it's happening now without a bullet, a get out of jail card for the corrupt to be secured and re-implemented.
Although I think most of us know who they are but they have the FBI/CIA and all those other agencies to infiltrate groups - the thing is trump is our guy but in a civil war there might be no "Figure head"
Agreed. Not saying it may come to that at some point, but right now, all the talk is just going to put you on a watch list. Be responsible. All peaceful remedies to this situation need to be exhausted before we think about the physical stuff.
Listen to this man. The guy he's replying to is a shill here acting as a thought leader for you all. You think the fbi is looking into the election? No theyre looking into you right now if you say anything crazy.
https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
we've seen this for years now they never face the law, we see the media lie every fucking day and nothing ever happens, we've seen/heard it all and there is never any action taken, it's sickening.
Just look where BLM violence got them. They got their asses kissed left & right and T even made a Platinum plan for blacks only with Billions in it. It‘s a joke.
You need to get aggressive and violent. Otherwise, if these SCOTUS cucks don‘t feel the pressure from the street, nothing will happen and they will just rule what suits them most comfortably:
They are already set for life. It‘s THE BEST option for them to just go along with the steal and let MSM spin it & Big Tech censor everything about it. Without any sort of credible physical pressure, that won‘t change a single bit. Every other suit will be just tossed out as well.
A litigant should exhaust any prescribed administrative remedies available before seeking judicial review. Where relief is available from an administrative agency, the plaintiff is ordinarily required to pursue that avenue of redress before proceeding to the courts. Until that recourse is exhausted, the suit is premature and must be dismissed.
Yes. Bounce it through the Courts. Let them have a chance. BEFORE you declare martial law. Most of us end at Courts. But then again, we are not President.
I don't know if this is true. SCOTUS has to realize that any ruling that ultimately leads to Trump taking office is going to be among the most controversial in history.
If they see other cases pending that have better legal and technical merits than this one, would it not make sense to wait.
They may just be cherry-picking right now. They may or may not be evil -- that remains to be seen -- but they aren't stupid. They know this election is rigged. If they do want to do something about it, they will be taking great care to do it without starting a civil war.
no, on two occasions SCOTUS could have addressed the matter of states violating the constitution in their conducting of elections but now in both cases have shut it down
the Texas case was the perfect filing for addressing that crucial matter - does the contract between the union of states - the constitution - matter any more?
Texas, as a state, has a billion times more standing on this basic point of grievance - the disenfranchisement that results when states that are party to this contract are able to violate it with impunity
SCOTUS just told the states that faithfully uphold the contract, that they have no recourse for grievance for when other states (conspiring together) violate the contract
that is utter tyranny - SCOTUS rubber stamped the fact that yes, we're under a system of tyranny
Nothing has been sanctioned. The grounds for dismissing the Texas lawsuit was 'no precedent for legal standing'. POTUS has 4 more lawsuits making their way to SCOTUS and he has legal standing in all 4 lawsuits.
Think of how much fucking time was wasted on Dominion when the thing that actually would have worked is signature invalidation.
Article2 cases to go back to requiring that could have been run in every state. Forensic audits, etc. instead... I heard “votes counted in a Germany” and “owned by a Venezuelan” two hundred times.
They printed ballots, a recount was always going to show a close number.
The Dominion thing is real though, and has yielded concrete evidence. Signature verification relies on others to provide you with any evidence beyond affidavit, and as has been shown no-one wants to open pandora's box.
Dominion manipulating the vote is a real thing. It was only one attack vector of many.
Dr.Shiva showed that in one case they switched 30% from Trump to Biden. That was the only point where in reverse engineering everything added up. That totals in a whopping and near to unreal 60% difference. You really believe Joe got 82M votes? As of today and what we know, Joe's real count is more likely to be in the 30M range. This fraud is so big, that it becomes "too big to fail" and too dangerous to take it down.
Are you a fan of BLM cunts that liken the use of correct grammar to being “too white”? Not trying to be a prick, but come on man, everyone should know the correct use of their/there/they’re; it’s easy as fuck.
Well it's PA supreme court that approved many election laws, so the only place to go it Scotus. But they delayed hearing that as well. So where else to go?
Back to the State Level courts that will just throw it out. Fucking disgusting. The Supreme Court knew damn well what was at stake. They willingly chose to look the other way. Weak. Cowardly and weak.
"just do what you were doing OOPS DECEMBER 14TH AND THE DEMOCRATS VOTED TO CERTIFY THE ELECTION DESPITE PENCE'S PROTESTS BECAUSE LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE ALL THIS B*LLSHIT COMES ABOUT FROM CUCKSERVATIVES INSISTING THAT DEMOCRATS WILL FOLLOW THE RULES -THIS TIME- AND THEN THEY DON'T"
Either declare martial law or consneed, everything else is just a silly benny hill skit of lesbian democrats quirkily saying 'hehe we destroyed the evidence so you can't PROVE we cheated' as some obese boomer goes "I FOUGHT FOR UR FREEDUMB IN 'NAM YOU CAIN'T DO THIS" while doing nothing.
Prove q is a counterop. You cannot. Because if you could, you'd have already done so beyond a shadow of a doubt. But you haven't and yuou won't because you cannot. Insults, smears and illogical arguments and logical fallacies are not a valid way to debunk. Q has been vindicated in the last month, NOT discredited.
The very reason you're talking about it is because you're kind of repeating mainstream media talking points: q is a conspiracy theory; q is a counter psyop; q is a cult; q is dangerous; q is insane militia; q is dumb
let me be very clear
shitting on q doesn't give you any more legitimacy. it won't get you into the cool kids club or the exclusive turtle club
With respect, it's getting tiring all of these test case losses. I admire not giving up but much prefer firing on all cylinders for once and winning at least one fucking time before the clock runs out.
I prefer saying fuck the clock and hop into the action we all know the courts are making more and more inevitable. At the very least, we should have routes of communication and organization going.
civil cases like this only require a preponderance of evidence and, if all of the material being tossed about is to be believed, they have that in spades.
That is the literal Legal Requirement. For all the Shit Talking against SCOTUS, it is critical that they are following the Letter of The Law. By Refiling through DC Circuit, they can not deny it being heard, due to Lack Of Standing. He has Standing, and then all the facts are heard. It has to play out. This is a major turning point in US History, These Justices know this is their Legacy.
I find it hard to believe that Texas' lawsuit didn't clearly demonstrate that that fraud in those four states didn't injure the voters of Texas though.
This is a federal election. Fraud in one state negatives affects the voters in another state.
"Negatively affects" isn't sufficient to generate standing, though. There needs to be a direct causal nexus. While I tend to believe the average Texas voter is directly affected by Pennsylvania's constitutional violations, it is true that the candidate themself is traditionally the one with standing to sue over election issues.
If the SCOTUS wants to leave that undisturbed, though, they had best be ready to give hearing to a case with more solid standing, even if it means gasp granting certiorari. If there's no other case they're eyeing, then throwing the Texas case on standing is the worst case in history of throwing the baby out with the bathwater - for something as important as a presidential election, ensuring an actual hearing on the merits is more important than picking nits over standing, at least for the highest court in the land.
Basically, if this was the only opportunity to give these claims a fair hearing at the SCOTUS and they rejected it, the justices have missed the forest for the trees and thrown out the country on a technicality. We'll see.
Every legal fucking voter experienced injury because every illegal vote negates a legal one. So sick of these courts not allowing evidence to be presented even. What is the recourse if a party steals an election? Nothing?!
The problem with that is Trump joined the Texas lawsuit in his personal capacity and intervened in it. Wouldn't that give standing? Does it really matter who is the main plaintiff when you have the injured intervening on the suit?
They dismissed this BEFORE they allowed his request to “intervene”. Therefore his request to intervene was moot. This was some grade A bullshit. Texas has injury. And so does everyone who was joining. Especially Trump. But they threw it out before letting him join. Really really cowardly underhanded bullshit. Stinks to high heaven.
It dilute the Injury, according to analysts. That would be like you as a business owner getting robbed, and seeking remedy. Then one of your big customers intervening and joining in a Legal Action. It's not the best example, but it should hit the point.
Trump must file by himself which either happened last night, or happens today, per Rudy Jewels.
I disagree. If the premise is that they are "Letter of The Law", then the matter of dilution of injury via Texas is big. Trump must refile, as his Injury is undeniable. He must do it through the proper channels, from a place of Standing. They will hear it.
The Legacy I see being sought is that they did it by the book, and to the letter of the Law. The whole world is watching.
It didn’t shock me what happened with scotus. Trump has been good at keeping his promises. He promised to drain the swamp and he promised to defend the constitution. We will know shortly.
No matter how many times the state courts “cuck” us, we can still end up at a scotus hearing after following all the procedure (climbing the ladder of courts).
Just because scotus said Texas doesn’t have standing to sue PA etc doesn’t mean they’ll say the same about Trump’s personal election contest. He does have standing because he is the specific candidate that was defrauded by this.
Back to scotus, precedent matters above all in case law, sometimes even constitutionality sadly.
If scotus rules in the MI or PA (or any state from the TX lawsuit) hearing that only the state legislature can/could have/should have changed election law and procedure (as laid out in the constitution) then the same ruling would affect every state that used a non-legislative route to change their election laws.
The real question is what type of relief, if any, they would provide. And that’s where I’m currently dooming at the moment.
There’s nothing stopping them from going “the state legislature is the only body with the power to change election laws. Keep that in mind next time. Court adjourned”
Is it up to the SCOTUS to charge them with anything?
I think that’s completely up to DOJ. SCOTUS could rule that the officials did break the law, but I still don’t think current DOJ would ever charge them with it.
Injury to Trumpnwoukdnt be that it effected him or he lost. It would be only if they prove fraud or that a violation of the laws may have effected the outcome.
The reason was because Texas has no right to tell another state how to conduct election business. Election business is clearly defined in The Constitution and each state runs it as they see fit, for the most part. Nothing else matters. Doesn't matter if Texas was injured. Doesn't matter if they cheated. There's nothing in The Constitution that lets Texas tell another state what to do. There's no standing. It was a good try though and brought a lot of attention to the fraud. Next 4 cases will be more important and can't be tossed for lack of standing because they are from within the individual states.
The electors clause, which IS part of the constitution, that ALL states must agree to, says that only legislatures can change election procedures. This was violated.
But Roe v Wade, something made up out of thin air, and SCOTUS upholding DACA, a completely illegal EXECUTIVE action, is completely acceptable in American law. Give me a break with this retarded logic.
If this was Obama that gained 11 million votes in his re-election, and there was clear and obvious fraud on the Republican side (with video and hundreds of testimonies) , and there was a 6-3 democrat majority on SCOTUS...what the fuck do you think the result be? They'd reverse this shit so quick your head would spin. GOP party is a spineless bunch of losers and your comment contributes to that.
But Roe v Wade, something made up out of thin air, and SCOTUS upholding DACA, a completely illegal EXECUTIVE action, is completely acceptable in American law. Give me a break with this retarded logic.
Yes, I know the game, as I spell out here in this pre Election Day comment. And this is why to not give an inch for wiggle room.
My courage is unbreakable, battle tested, irl lifetime, and online.
Courage is strength in the face of fear, Courage is not the absence of fear.
Help them find their strength or lend them some of yours. You wont make them stronger by increasing fear or low-expectations. Make them Strong! Give the State Legislatures the Constitutional info they need, most are "normies" with day jobs/previous careers. Give them the accurate info on fraud. Give them strength & prayers to know you are by their side, and not abandoning the trenches.
You are right but miss on a key point. The constitution clearly tells how the states are to conduct their elections and that is through the laws set by each state’s legislators. That is the contract that all the states agreed upon when entering the union under the constitution. If these 4 states had passed laws through their respective state legislators that TX didn’t like then yes, TX would have no standing.
But these 4 states clearly went around the constitution and broke their contract by bypassing the state legislators and set up their own laws which ended in fraud. Thus, TX and all other states should have standing on which to sue these states as it affects them for breaking the agreement that they all signed onto.
I'm not saying it's inarguable. I'm saying that is is arguable however. I think SCOTUS knows they are going to have to rule on the election and they didn't want it to be this case. Alito and Thomas were dissenting to show us something.
I agree that they are trying to delay the inevitable and perhaps they’re watching the other cases closely and know they can give a better ruling with these other cases but I think ultimately that would be dumb plus who else is to hear states that are suing one another on a basis of breaking their contract with the constitution if not the Supreme Court? That’s why you have them, so that they don’t go to war with each other and they can set precedent for future cases based off the constitution.
Plus you had basically had half the states on one side and the other half on the other side. Like that should be 100% a case that the Supreme Court should take.I think they are just cowards.
No I didn't miss that. That's why I made sure to say "for the most part". What SCOTUS is saying (and it is arguable) is that EVEN THOUGH those states may have broken their own laws (or The Constitution itself), TX has "no standing" to bring that case. Even if they are impacted (they said all other points are moot). That case has to get there through other means. Alito and Thomas disagree and I do too, but I understand the argument, and I also believe it would set a terrible precedent for other cases if they did take it up.
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they drop the PA case on the same grounds.
If Texas, +18 (?) states, along with ~100 house of representative members cosigning, along with the Georgia legislators cosigning, and even with the president cosigning. I don't see how this case could possibly lack standing.
Well, the President will continue to allow each state and each branch of government a chance to indicate by their actions whether they are corrupt, or not.
Just to give you an example of the likely outcome... In 1861, Lincoln took over the country using War Powers, closed over 300 newspapers, removed one supreme court justice, suspended habeas corpus and enforced military justice for all U.S. citizens.
President Trump will probably not have to go that far to defend our country from this cyber warfare attack, but ultimately he has the power to do whatever it takes to get rid of the internal corruption of those that colluded with our attackers.
For federal positions. The difference of Pelosi being Speaker or not. Whether we continue to control the Senate. And most importantly each state agreed to electing President by an elector system (as opposed to duel to the death) that is good as the integrity of each state. The constitution outlays the rules and States should be confined to that.
Easiest way to know it's wrong is if it was the other way and Republicans were cheating, the election would've already been overturned.
technically you could argue that even if these states defrauded themselves blue that injury has not occurred to TX
even if they go blue it does not guarantee to change the outcome of the election. in our situation that is the plan but for TX a state's electors going for the opposite candidate does not, in and of itself, guarantee injury
it's only when that changed state outcome becomes part of the larger whole election outcome that you could argue injury. these are hypothetical ideas I am playing with
it does and I agree but on the other hand, states are entitled to their own rights against interference. I think TX's approach "inaction will disenfranchise as many voters as taking action allegedly would" is too ambiguous and the inability to prove that the defendant states' unconstitutional laws actually changed the outcome of their state election which then is solely responsible for changing the outcome of the election at the federal level...is hard to prove
but I agree with you that unconstitutional laws are unconstitutional laws. it seems to me the remedy for unconstitutional laws is in having the in-state disenfranchised voters sue those who made the unconstitutional laws, then appeal it up to SCOTUS
even if they go blue it does not guarantee to change the outcome of the election
Irrelevant. Fraud was not the complaint. Unconstitutional usurpation of state legislature authority injured all states in the union by delegitimizing the vote. Every state has a vested interest in outcome of a federal election because of federalism, otherwise we wound be under articles of confederation still. States that held unconstitutional elections injured states that obeyed the state legislature. Unequal and illegal election resulted.
I don't disagree in spirit but I think it is a hard case to argue jurisdiction.
if there is a plaintiff with standing in this case then that plaintiff is in the defendant states. that is the primart battleground where disenfranchisement and dilution of the vote via relaxed, unconstitutional election laws took place.
the plaintiff in this case should come from within those states, not from Texas from a once-removed onlooker position.
if no plaintiff fights it within state, then who is the complainant? it's not like Pennsylvania et al. changed the number of electoral votes they get to cast. if no voters within state claim to have been injures by the unconstitutional law then it is difficult to prove that injury took place.
Last I checked, all states are members of the union. It's one pool. If you miss in your part, I still pay the consequences. I never agreed to swim in piss water, and we all signed a contract to prevent it. Degree is irrelevant.
Best plaintiffs would state legislature, but they are not AG or gov, uncertain if they can file suit for state with SCOTUS. Notably, many did file amicus briefs for tx.
Texan voters of all stripes are entitled to a fair electoral process, as deemed by the constitutional agreement between the states that empowers solely the state legislatures to enact federal elections. Party is irrelevant. Legality of the vote and subsequent electoral integrity is paramount.
which is an arguable point. it would have set a terrible precedent. there are better cases for us and scotus will hear them. then we see how they rule.
"Better cases" "terrible precedent" are weasel words used to avoid responsibility. It's literally their constitutional role. They could have ruled on the merits and provided some kind of reasoned resolution. Instead they punted and further delayed justice. Inexcusable bordering on evil.
4 years of injustice across the branches....how much more do you need to see? I'm all for forcing them to play it out, fighting to the end and beyond, but the judiciary is not an ally of the constitution when it comes to djt.
IF State A violates waterway laws that injure state B then State C, etc have a right to file a law suit against State A as it can impact them in the future if the waterway laws are not upheld even if they are not directly the damaged party.
It is one thing to have a state have its OWN laws. But when we are talking about laws agreed upon by 50 STATES there is no wiggle room.
Given the extent of Obamagate and spygate and lockdown cities and BLM/Antifa crimes and fraudulant elections and with nary an arrest to show, I am starting to wonder if we are beyond being royally fucked.
Because you can't gestapo go get them in the middle of the night. That makes you look fucking unhinged and it tramples ALL over their constitutional rights. They're scum and I don't think scum should have rights, but they have them nonetheless.
They get due process just like we do. The only time that doesn't happen is when they're marked as terrorists/enemy combatants. You really want to avoid using that against other Americans though. It looks really bad. Like night of the long knives bad.
And I believe the FBI is the only ones that have the ability to add groups to the domestic terrorist list (though the approval of the Senate/intelligence committtee). And it makes difficult if they don't announce themselves as ANTIFA.
That's why they're still around. They haven't been overly active enough to warrant federal intervention. ANTIFA is fucking with cops in Portland and BLM is just crying on Twitter because some old racist white man won't meet with them after they gave him tens of millions of dollars.
SCOTUS definitely sent that message loud and clear: hands washed. Pontius Pilate. No one - not state legislatures, not district courts, not Congress, not the Supreme Court, not the FBI, CIA, US Marshals, local police ... NO ONE wants to be a patriot. No one wants to stick their nose out. I am kind of starting to hate my own countrymen. I am starting to think I'm just a dinosaur.
No they didn't That's not what they said at all. They said TEXAS cannot bring the complaint against those states because TEXAS isn't an 'injured party'.
In election cases, typically, only the people involved with a stake (Trump and Biden) have a direct right to claim injury and have standing. There have been multiple cases about this, just not one of this magnitude.
The SCOTUS doesn't want to rule on this case and set precedent that opens the door for other states to throw shade at eachother and sue eachother over anything.
There's logic in their ruling, even if I disagree with it. I side with Texas having standing because due to fraud and their breach of the constitutional contract, those states and disenfranchised Texas voters. The issue with the argument is it's vague and would open the door for a slew of problems if SCOTUS ruled on it.
Also, SCOTUS HAS to respond to these cases. When a state sues another state, it's auto SCOTUS. They have to respond to this shit.
I think SCOTUS is waiting for the other cases to be exhausted in the lower circuit courts so they can take it so it can be heard and argued. Those WILL have standing since those have Trump in his personal capacity as the direct plaintiff. And they'll hear it. They are waiting for one of the more clean and succinct ones so that when they do rule (I don't know how they'll rule or what remedy is being pursued) the precedent is clear with little room to twist their ruling into something it's not.
They're protecting the integrity of the court and upholding the law in the most strict and unbending sense.
I'm not happy with them dismissing TX. I actually really liked that brief alot. But I'm not going to shit on them for being unbending with the law and them wanting to protect it against those in the future that would attempt to twist their precedence into something it's not.
I agree with you and totally understand. All the arms of the law (which you listed) are corrupt or cowards.
Trump really is on his own and it's sad and unfair. I hate that the Republicans allowed all this to happen. But I hate the Democrats for having zero integrity to cheat like this anyway. I have no respect for any of these people save for Trump himself and his legal team.
Okay, dude. Look. I'll be as direct as I can, okay?
The 14th. Does. Not. Matter. Just like 'President-Elect' Does. Not. Matter. It's a title. It can be taken away. States can be decertified after the 14th. They CANNOT -CANNOT- certify if there is pending litigation against those states. Jan 6th is the hard date. The 14th doesn't matter. Litigation is litigation.
So stop acting like the 14th is the day of the apocalypse. It's not. It's just the process. Yes, it gets it closer and it shifts the public perception of Biden into something more legitimate, but that's the way it goes.
If you want to scream at the moon, wait until Jan 6th to do it. Because that's when the certs are sent to the house/senate/VP for final review and acceptance. And EVEN THEN - if there's a house rep and senator that contest ANY of the certs from ANY of the states, the VP has the ability to REJECT those states certs. I don't know if that's ever been done or not, but that ability exists and can be used IF you can get a senator and house rep to contest and the VP to go along with it. I BELIEVE there's a house rep that already said he would contest. So now it comes down to a senator to join him and the VP to break out of the suffocating caste they have created to bind them. It's a lot to ask of someone. And it uncommon. But we live in uncommon times.
I find it strange that Pence doesn't really talk about the election theft though. He keeps shit pretty low key I don't know if that's a good or bad thing.
No it doesn't, it means SCOTUS won't hear this lawsuit filed by Texas. They will most likely hear one of the other lawsuits filed by POTUS that are making their way to SCOTUS.
Nothing important happens in 2 days. Jan 6th and 20th are the only important dates. SCOTUS didn't toss the lawsuit for lack of evidence, they tossed it for 'no precedent for legal standing'. Those lawsuits do have legal standing.
Oh - I missed the part where they held / delayed the voting for the electoral college, or the part where it's ever been reversed. Even Bush-Gore happened hours ahead of the EC vote.
Yes, Texas or other Lawsuits where SCOTUS doesn't have to either hear the case(s) or even rule on them. This is another reason why the WIN WIN Plan works so well, because these legal & technical problems, like all other problems, are avoided.
Trump said a month ago he wanted to do a "big beautiful lawsuit against all the states" but lawyers told him he won't have standing.
The WIN WIN Plan doesn't require standing, nor realistically allow SCOTUS refusal.
The WIN WIN Plan can resolve the issues in the Texas Lawsuit; but the Texas lawsuit doesn't resolve the WIN WIN Plan.
Focus on State Legislators for Electors! 2 days remaining!
There is still time for State Legislators to do their Constitutional duty.
With the Fraud, means all the States that cheated/frauded) will lose 25-50% of it's House Seats for this next decade (2022-2032) during reapportionment from this US Census; as per 14th Amend, Section 2.
Have you succeeded getting this argument before any working lawyers? It seems someone should throw this simple argument at the wall to see if it'll stick. Trump himself at the very least, he's got standing everywhere. This has also been his message all along that he won on election night, and Joe "won" 4 days later.
Likely because, 1.) they are normies, most people don't know it's Constitutionally that simple; 2.) there are lots of unconstitutional laws telling them "muh democracy" and "muh governor" and other things; and 3.) obviously there's significant political bluepilled reasons to keep State Legislators in the dark about the power they Constitutionally wield.
I think they're actually terrified. They know that there are 74M plus of us and that we're fucking angry. Conservatives are "gun nuts". We're going to blow them away if our military can prevent too much CCP interference and arming of libs.
The totalitarian tiptoe turned into the totalitarian sprint. They're scared and doing whatever they can to try to prevent Trump's 2nd term. They're not ready for what will happen but it's like a collision course.
Uh, if you look at the front page of the US Supreme Court website, you'll see that basically they've put plywood over everything and locked all the doors until further notice.
It couldn't be because of this odd not-an-opinion-but-still-an-opinion dismissal, could it? I mean they don't shut the Supreme Court to all public access until further notice just because Goldman Sachs has standing but Texas doesn't.
Out of concern for the health and safety of the public and Supreme Court employees, the Supreme Court Building will be closed to the public until further notice. The Building will remain open for official business. Please see all COVID-19 announcements here.
Here's one from March. Again exact same site design but includes an update for changes due to Covid-19 -
Press Release
*Postponement of March Oral Arguments
Out of concern for the health and safety of the public and Supreme Court employees, the Supreme Court Building will be closed to the public from 4:30 p.m. on March 12, 2020, until further notice. The Building will remain open for official business, and case filing deadlines are not extended under Rule 30.1. *
I only have one thing to say to the Presdient: It's time for twitter fingers to turn to trigger fingers. Enough is enough. They want a street fight, let's give them one.
The people who did this won't be in the streets. I think they would welcome a chance to use the streetfight to manipulate the public further. I'm not sure how to smoke them out but I hope someone does know
Seriously the trust the plan people and legal routes after the 14th are the new q tards. Probably some overlap. I don’t have to believe to understand the saying god helps those who helps themselves
The thing that boggles my mind though is why everyone close to Trump is still acting calm and like they will still win this. I don't want to fall back into that "trust the plan" blind faith Q-esque mindset, but unless some big shit happens by Monday I don't really see what other options there are. Supposedly the Senate or House or Congress in general has the ability to contest the election a weekish before Inauguration Day?
Like I don't want to be a doomer either, but at this point we're running out of time and unless Trump does something crazy like declare martial law or has a way to block things by going the foreign interference route, it's hard to see how the hell a win is possible unless the goal is to cripple Joe's administration and fix the election system so Dems can't just ruin make themselves the uniparty.
And people can't believe Trump will be alive forever or a free man forever. And who is our next big voice? New York can plant bogus charges on Trump and anyone close to him.
It's possible they are just cool headed people. Also I think they realize that there will still be a fight to continue even if trump is removed from the presidency.
This is why they constantly cuck you wiith "Back the Blue" and Gun laws.
Our hands are so weak and shaky that we would immediately bend over if asked.
"What!? I would never spread them!"
Lmao, sure little bitch, let me see say that when you're taken aside to have your constituional rights violated by a TSA agent.
With the influx of gun nuts and football heads, I thought we'd have a little moire spunk than this. But it's become pretty clear that most us would still rather watch the action from a big screen at home, than participate in the game.
GEOTUS has been cleaning house at the Pentagon and DOD. Fired traitors from positions of power and installed loyalists who will not ignore the orders that will be coming.
Unpoopular opinion, but I'm thinking there was legitimacy to their not taking the case at this time as technically there's been no "injury" per se to POTUS as electors have yet to be ordained. I think if it goes back to them they'll take it once the traitors lock themselves in to giving pedo joe the fake electors. Then they bitch slap them.
We'll see what happens though. We're all prepped for the final solution if need be.
Which there haven't. There was a massive election fraud conspiracy going on and all the powers aligned to support and enable the fraud and let everyone possibly get away with it AND succeed.
This is a coup. A BLATANT coup. If they really succeed, the USA will be known as a Banana Republic. You will never recover from something like this. 2024 there will be the 25th wave of Covid, and the same shit will be pulled off.
Why? Because it worked 2020, nobody was even punished or fined, and nothing will change with a Kleptocrat presidency over the next years. GOP will just return to the old days of full cuck mode and compromise with the left at basically every matter.
The deep state reclaimed its government, plebs. Time to lick the boot. And prepare for 4 years of exclusively positive, pro-government, pro-Biden/Harris MSM reporting. And prepare for MASSIVE unrestrained censorship emanating from Big Tech against you. You will not last 4 years of such erosion.
Fight now, or kneel forever. And as such, the rest of the world will share your "Dark Winter" as well.
They have shot us point blank, tried to rip our mothers out of cars and then arrested them for driving to protect themselves, they have used our children's lives as human collateral with school, they are threatening to forcefully vaccinate you and your kids holding us hostage in exchange for our basic human freedoms, they have eliminated the greatest and last bastion of control over our sovereignty by provably without repercussion committing unapologetic voter fraud....what is the white pill you're looking for, exactly?
Most of the shills are trying to convince everyone that military action cannot work and that nobody will ever fight back. They are trying to take away that call to action. Those are the shills. The mods don't give a fuck and are letting them run hogwild.
It's a double-pincer, full envelopment, plan. The center has to HOLD or slightly fall back, while the flanks encircle. BUT THE WHOLE LINE HAS TO HOLD TOGETHER.
He isn't conceding, so that means you shouldn't either. It may not feel like we have any effect on things, but it's better than nothing, so put that big-dick MAGA energy out into the universe.
His tweets are throttled by Twitter. Any call to arms wouldn't make it to the airwaves unless he tried the Emergency Broadcast SMS & Television system. Only people with Antenna based TV would get the Televised signal because Cable Providers and Satellite providers do NOT have to air it. When you send that many SMS, carriers spam filters will kick in and i doubt all of the SMS will actually reach target. who knows. Whens the last time they tested it? yeah.
Yeah, you're right. He has no reliable way of communicating with us. Except for the exact way you mentioned that we all know about already. Except for that, no way at all!
The only thing he can do is what he can do. If he has to use it, then that's what he has to do. If they stop him, they stop him. That's just war. You do what you have to do.
Realistically, there are only a handful of patriots in the entire federal government. It has become so bloated and corrupt that there is no saving it from the inside. Just look at how the deep state rallies to destroy and impede Trump at every turn. The only way this gets fixed is by cleaning house and restructuring. That's the only way. Courts, DOJ, NOTHING else is going to save this Republic.
It is with upmost sadness and disappoint that I write today. In light of recent events pertaining to the handling of the 2020 presidential election and the response or lack thereof by elected officials willfully ignoring allegations and evidence of election fraud that undermines the peoples faith in the system. The will of the people has been ignored. Without a free and fair election the republic no longer represents the citizens of the United States of America. For this reason I have to begrudgingly endorse secession from the United States and the formation of a new Free State of Liberty.
The new rules are there are no rules. I wish people on the right would get that, sticking to the rules is a huge disadvantage when the other side never does.
The SC punted and will try to run out the clock. They will later claim like the lower courts did that it would be too late if the law suits come after the electors vote.
CONCEDE OR TELL US TO BURN THE FUCKING THING DOWN, ENOUGH ALREADY WITH THIS FIGHT ON SHIT. These people think fighting is making memes and salt posts. If this election was stolen then this country is no more, and he needs to SAY it. You didn’t get “screwed”, we lost the United States of America, it’s bigger than trump. I’m sorry but I’m at my breaking point and all I keep reading are excuses to sit and wait more.
The numerical effect of the massive fraud is the reviving of Dred Scott, in which the red states are populated totally by blacks. Just another algorithm.
The sooner people accept the supreme court is compromised the better. I guarantee you the moment Trump files "with reason" they will just give another excuse. Does that mean it's over? Fuck no.
I'm just perplexed why so many people here expected this to be resolved with just court cases. Our entire government is fucking compromised. Look at how many government employees have been exposed as linked to dominion, chinese money, etc. just over the past two weeks. There was never any way that these people would just give up power through court battles. Trump is literally fighting every single position of power in our country plus china right now. I don't know why anyone expected this would end with a court case. They are all in too deep.
I'm not dooming but people here need to be realistic. We need to start networking, mobilizing and preparing for a fight. I would love to still solve all of this peacefully but I'm not gonna drink kool-aid until a commie kicks in my door either. There is no downside to gearing up and preparing right now.
EO 9-12-18.... Incoming Marshal Law with mass arrests!
-1500 daily flights within the United States - all Miltary Aircraft
-FOB being set up in key locations
-Medical Facilities excepting injuries and KIA
-Heavy Equipment being moved in a rapid pace
-Family members of Active Personal confirming a Domestic National Threat, ANTIFA & BLM being supplied weapons of WAR from China and IRAN being stored in facilities within Liberal cities....
Military doesn't squawk on transponders that you can track. I don't know how you can even claim that many flights. AKA, you don't know because you don't have the tools to track it because military aircraft normally don't turn their civilian transponders on and even when they do, online tracking doesn't track military aircraft by design.
There's no need for FOB's when you have actual installations/bases that are typically within a 50 mile radius of a major city. Again, this is silly and not practical for the military to do. We don't live in Afghanistan.
Medical Facilities are prepping for for COVID vaccines and that's it. Your conspiracy would rely on thousand of people preparing and all of them not leaking. That's not going to happen. And the last people you would prep over things like that are health care.
Heavy equipment? What? What exactly? Where? From? To? All equipment for the military are in a state of readiness. Tanks/planes/APC/whatever. They get maint regularly in the event they have to be used, they work.I don't know what heavy equipment and where that equipment is.
They're not being funded directly by China and Iran dude. And it's not them. It's Soros funding them through a charity that they're using to purchase firearms. I've seen pictures of an ANTIFA leader. Fucker has a SCAR-L. That's at 4000 dollar rifle. Also why would civilians that are related to active military have this super secret eyes only intel?
I agree, you know what they've done to leadership in the military for the past decade? They've retired many good generals, colonels and leaders (all white men) and replaced them with women, black men and black women. There are more black (Lt) colonels and generals than ever before in the military (and an ever-growing non-American foreign immigrant population in the lower ranks from the likes of Africa, South America and China) right now and I hate to say it, but this IS a race thing in this scenario, that's why they did it in the first place, "for diversity". You know what what that diversity has caused? Well, judging by non-white and female voting records, one of the most democrat friendly militaries in history. It is also a steadily weakening military as well.
I think these SCOTUS judges were acting out of fear. Fear of reigniting mass riots, and carnage from the violent left. Our differences could not be clearer. We approach our grievances by compiling evidence, presenting our cases, and working through the legal system. The problem is, our legal systems, and the courts do not work for us. Our highest courts bow to the anarchists. Politics are the goggles they use to view everything through. They are cowards, and they are taking the path of least resistance. Even if they know that it is unjust.
They dont farm, build, repair, transport or maintain society and are going to be in for a rude fucking awakening when the internet shits itself due to loss of power.
Need to set up Regional/State means of communication ASAP. I am in Arkansas, anyone else holler at me! We need to organize "Peaceful Protest's" ALL OVER THESE COMMIES!!
Enough is WAY PAST enough! Organize, destabilize opponents, #MAGA
The tolerant left will now be singing the praises of Barrett and Kavanaugh, after doing their hardest to destroy them. POTUS stood by them all the way.
nice. I was a member here since before emails were required so i can't reset my password. Fuck you. Browser cache emptied since i was hacked the same day as the fucking SSO update on TDW.
There was a technical reason the Texas claim wasn't accepted, but here's the thing:
Ever hear of 'exhausting your administrative remedy'?
Explanation because the thread blew up and it's clear this wasn't clear to everyone. I was trying to get your noggins to jog:
It's simple: he has to run this through the existing Courts to see if they are going to correct the issue or not. He has to give them a chance. Not unlike if we had a disagreement and I tried to resolve it before running before a Judge to get the Court to intervene. Usually this phrase refers to pre-Court process attempted, but then again, usually I'm not the President in charge of SOCOM.
Please explain for the people in the back. We all like a good presentation.
We have reached that point.
Judges accept all cases THEN change the definition of words or processes to decide in favor of Lefty causes.
Traditional values like votes, honesty, merit, free speech, fair press, and other things, are all but eliminated.
Lawlessness, chaos, identity politics, globalism is all that matters to courts, law enforcement (cops, fbi, foj,...), government admins, corporations, schools, media, sports, Hollywood, and the rest of them.
Fuck. I just wanted to live my life.
We all do, fren. We all do. Times ARE so much better with GEOTUS at the helm.
Edit: mistakenly used past tense
That fren is the American dream and it now falls on a few to make sure it's our children dream.
Same here, but now I don't know if I can do that the way I am meant to under an American constitution.
That's why it's time for sedition, this country is too split on the way to live that it's time to go our separate ways.
Secession
WHEN LIBERTY IS SEDITIOUS, THEN I"M SEDITIOUS.
YOU CANNOT STEAL MY COUNTRY AND EXPECT ME TO ROLL OVER AND TAKE IT.
I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me LIBERTY or give me DEATH.
The commies can go to Canada or Mexico or be driven into the sea.
Yeah.. China wins either way.
Except in the case of the Texas suit, nothing was changed.
All the shills talking about the runoffs as if they haven't seen what's just gone down today. Voting has been declared meaningless by the SCOTUS.
There's only one solution to this, and I just hope the patriots that don't visit .win know it too
Negative. We have one option. That final box. Other countries don’t even have any of the boxes to begin with. No hope at all even from birth.
Exactly. Covid isn't going away. Anyone who thinks it is, even with a "vaccine" are kidding themselves. Liberal leadership loves it, and the sheeple gibmedats are all in line. They're going to push mask mandates and limit social gatherings forever "due to an abundance of caution." All elections will be held by mail to stop the spread of "potential pathogens." The Republic is over. What no one seems to grasp is that our freedom and democracy officially died in March, the second anyone complied with and went along with the pandemic scam. It was never about stopping a virus. It's always been about sizing power. And boy now they have it and they won't ever give it up. Welcome to the People's Republic.
It's called slacktivism.
I spread redpills..and talk to my neighbors . They don't vote at all. Couldn't care less who's in charge. But I woke a few up. Not as manyv as we need, but more than we had
Nah man, stupid frog memes are going to save us ... doomer.
/s
Time to boot up minecraft boys... in minecraft
that is part of the problem. I see a lot of people day to day and they are blindly going along. Don't believe the truth and have TDS and have totally bought the lie of the media. However some are waking up
Digging into Purdue, not sure on Loeffler, but Purdue seems unipartt fuck to me. On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being GEOTUS and 10 being Mitt Romney this dude looks to be a solid 7.
I don't trust him.
After the Georgia rally I saw coverage of a debate for the runoff.
Loeffler made some arguments in favor of stop the steal. Trump taught her how to win!
Purdue didn't even bother to show up.
Loeffler is married to the head of the IEC and a bitcoiner
Them. Georgia is a compromised mess, and ripe for a patriotic extreme makeover.
She's a solid 6 if he's a 7.
They've been rigged for decades. Most of you were asleep. Some of us are really happy that this has become the number one issue and many state legislatures are going to be making massive changes to their election laws.
My state is going Voter ID and only paper ballots according to their rhetoric the last week or so and I trust they will do just that. If this happens all over the country the USA has a bright future.
This. NC voted for voter id, had it passed by the state legislature and then vetoed by the governor.
On a national level, the votes won't matter.
On the state level, votes will matter.
Only good thing to come from states who fix their voting methods, means those states will continue to be more free than the shitty blue states.
Yeah you missed the point. The only Blue state near mine is IL and its a shithole.
So you want to give up on every state that isnt red? You've seen the fraud, right? Whats your reasoning other than to demoralize people? Fuck you.
I don't share your optimism at all. Sure some reps are calling for changes, but nothing significant will change (there is no incentive to for the majority of people with power, as current events demonstrate quite well). We already had laws to prevent much of this anyway, just they weren't enforced. More laws (if magically they are able to pass them which I don't believe for a second) isn't going to do a thing unless people are thrown in jail tomorrow and made an example of in the media (won't happen). Even if we get some token law passed, what are we going to do when 20 million+ illegals become citizens and can vote legally? What are we going to do when they pack the courts and the senate with new states? What about when big tech, big media, and academia completely indoctrinate our existing and future generations? What are we going to do when the cheaters just fix all the "mistakes" they made this time so it's even harder to catch them?
Bright future? I'd love to believe but I just don't see it.
You dont get it. Trump got 80+ million votes while every entity you named was against him and more you didnt. You act like this shit hasnt been going on for a century. Never have so many people been aware of it.
Do yourself a favor and read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" It all starts there in a sense. Some will argue it was earlier and they are probably right.
There are no Blue states, just Blue cities.
Are you sure they're Blue? If enough people in those states make it an issue and keep it in the light they will have no choice.
I'm in Texas and will never vote in another POTUS election. We can be as red as we want but if the blue states' elections are rigged, what's the point?
Remember the 20,000 fake IDs they found in Chicago? Remember when a pipe burst, everyone was sent home and suitcases filled with fake paper ballots were scanned? I remember.
yeah I stil think about those 20,000 fake ID's at O'hare. It was just ONE package. I knew that was for the election even back then.
He's right, the fraud only matters in democrat cities in swing states. You can have your little honest votes in every town in america and it won't matter if 5-6 corrupt cities come up with hundreds of thousands of imaginary democratic votes.
I click.
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He’s been spamming that shit for hours in every thread. Probably the issue.
Post was removed — sometimes the truth is too inflammatory, I guess.
Dude I reached that point like fucking years ago. I can't remember the last time any process brought me any justice, much less this one. It's time for war.
I wonder where you should be on January 20th at noon?
I see what you're implying but the DNC has already moved for a "virtual inauguration" because literally no one would show up for Biden anyway.
Wow, we'll be living in The Matrix sooner than I expected 😎
Or a million pissed of Patriots with guns would simply overrun it and execute a large portion of the swamp and start over.
I'll still be watching Trump winning 5D Chess, just saying.😉
It's still all part of the plan. They're still running out the rope. Now that the courts have failed, it's time for the military tribunals.
Shit bird said they would do it virtually
That’s because it’s a fake inauguration and he will control 1/2 of the people
Mr. Lahey?
Where's the meet up?!?!?!
The gulag archipelago taught me about courts. They suck.
Not yet, POTUS has 4 lawsuits making their way to SCOTUS.
I have less than zero confidence in them.
Why's that? Has Rudy ever let you down?
I meant SCOTUS.
I could accept the supreme decisions under two provisions:
1, that TX lacks standing because the electoral college votes on the fraud states have already been (or will be) invalidated. Which means these votes dont overrule/disenfranchise the TX college votes hence no damage to TX voters. Which hands the election to POTUS. Ruling that these EC votes are invalid would be big news if so.. and hasn't happened yet.
Or 2, that the court is just putting the issue on hold until after the fraud states have directed their fraudulent electoral college votes at which time TX indisputably has standing. In which case they perhaps ought have made this clear, a lot of people think this what justices Alito/Thomas were hinting at, that the case needs re-filing immediately after this has happened.
Outcomes other than this I think have made the case that the court is itself the problem - one additional group of felons among many others.
I like your thinking. Hope it turns out to be true. I also see this Supreme Court lawsuit and decision as a "dry run". Remember that Lion Ted is on our side ... so it shouldn't be a surprise this effort coming from his state.
Then, the job has been done to let the public know the US Supreme Court is impartial because that is what matters most in terms of validity and when Trump ends up winning those states and carrying the votes. Bearing in mind how much control social media and msm outlets vent on their audience. So, to prevent a civil war basically from the left side, focusing on Democrats.
We've definitely passed the jury box
Haha yes, we are highly esteemed as "deplorables" and "nazis" because we love our country and we want everyone to be free. We must speak with a dictum that obviates our worldly prestige! Bleh! We are MAGA. We are not going away because some idiot says something bad about us. If we must fight, then we will fight. If we must be patient, then we will subvert the communists and defeat them in the information war. We stand ready, and we will not lose. Ours is a worthy cause. What is the left's worthy cause? Killing black babies?
Especially since everyone calls us all kinds of Nazi racist bigots just for not agreeing with liberal policies or ideas. Fuck the "people we look bad to"
We already look bad to them because we have white skin. White skin means we are all Nazis bro. We are the most evil on the planet because of white skin! Didnt in propaganda they said that the Germans ate babies and its was all just a lie.
i happen to have white skin, but I'm far from assuming that everyone here has
Exactly. At what point do you stop giving a fuck about "optics"?
We are so close if not there already.
We were there 4 years ago.
Optics can be important in politics. It can make or break a candidate or movement. But this is entering a less political stage now so I understand saying fuck the optics.
Muh optics
People have every right to be pissed off and worried right now. This suit was pretty cut and dry. Those states didn't ratify their election laws in the way the constitution tells the states.
Should we have expected this from the pussy court? Probably. They are the most useless people in the country. Appointed for life, they don't have to hear shit. Well who else has jurisdiction over state disputes? Fuck scotus. Good try alito and Thomas, but it wasn't enough. It's time to start showing our muscle. Sit back and watch our way of life be memory holed? Or fight and go to prison or disappeared? Might as well take as many commies with me if I'm going down.
This country is on thin ice. A big enough quarrel between two sides will result in foreign intervention.
They are smart and won't just end your way of life instantly.
Just like his they've seized the ultimate power here, they'll slowly chip away at your rights bit by bit, all the while maintaining a smiley happy face.
The media will champion each small move as some kind a benefit to all and before you know it you are disarmed.
Just like the frog in boiling water.
They know heavy reactions will trigger a violent response so expect your destruction to be over many slow years.
Right now I'm thinking we no longer need lifetime appointments for SCOTUS judges. Who thought it was a good idea appointing the most powerful people on the planet to lifetime appointments? Might as well be Royalty, exactly what we do Not want in America.
And just like that, our SCTOUS fucked our way of thinking into exactly what the left wanted
I'm in!!
Enough with this spectre of "foreign intervention"!!
The foreign intervention is now with China corrupting politicians, judges, journalists etc.
If there's a civil war no other country would intervene because anyone who does would have its ass kicked
it also would be the best time to intervene and most likely would happen like it's happening now without a bullet, a get out of jail card for the corrupt to be secured and re-implemented.
Although I think most of us know who they are but they have the FBI/CIA and all those other agencies to infiltrate groups - the thing is trump is our guy but in a civil war there might be no "Figure head"
who knows what tactics they'd insert.
Hope Russia comes to help us in the conflict part of this civil war, after all they did get Trump elected! right?
So, helicopter rides it is
Any zoomers wanna help me craft the mines? I really don’t know what I’m doing. Punched a tree—got no fruit.
Agreed. Not saying it may come to that at some point, but right now, all the talk is just going to put you on a watch list. Be responsible. All peaceful remedies to this situation need to be exhausted before we think about the physical stuff.
Buddy, you and everyone here is going on a watch list. Being on a watch list for loving your country is a badge of honor at this fucking point.
Hearts and minds.
Listen to this man. The guy he's replying to is a shill here acting as a thought leader for you all. You think the fbi is looking into the election? No theyre looking into you right now if you say anything crazy. https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
It's in hindsight, for sure.
2018EO + INSURRECTION ACT = LET'S FUCKING GO ALREADY! WE COULD WIPE OUT THE FEW CORRUPTED MOLES AND RESTORE OUR REPUBLIC IN A HEARTBEAT!
dude....it's not a few corrupted moles...it's wide spread and systemic.
Because it won't. Elite only respond to threats apparently
They ravage our cities with impunity while we follow the law.
They have no repercussions for their actions.
Law needs to be enforced.
The difference is we care.
They smash their own cities, where do we start?
we've seen this for years now they never face the law, we see the media lie every fucking day and nothing ever happens, we've seen/heard it all and there is never any action taken, it's sickening.
Just look where BLM violence got them. They got their asses kissed left & right and T even made a Platinum plan for blacks only with Billions in it. It‘s a joke.
You need to get aggressive and violent. Otherwise, if these SCOTUS cucks don‘t feel the pressure from the street, nothing will happen and they will just rule what suits them most comfortably:
They are already set for life. It‘s THE BEST option for them to just go along with the steal and let MSM spin it & Big Tech censor everything about it. Without any sort of credible physical pressure, that won‘t change a single bit. Every other suit will be just tossed out as well.
Drop the damn hammer already!
Have to wait until December 18th, cause of Trump's 2018 Executive Order pertaining actions/sanctions against those interfering in the 2016 election.
I'm fine with that.
lets go
Does he not need to use the power of some cucked people to pull that off? I hope he does or it's bye bye America
No. The president has sole authority.
Source: https://administrativelaw.uslegal.com/judicial-review-of-administrative-decisions/exhaustion-of-administrative-remedies/
Not a legal pede, I just know how to DuckDuckGo things :)
Yessir!
And in this very specific case, the step beyond that is the Insurrection Act.
We, normal folks, usually stop at the Courts. Usually...
I think we're close. Still some lawsuits in the courts. Sidney Powell just filed 4 emergency filings tonight after the SCOTUS ruling.
I'm def following POTUS' lead.
Yes. Bounce it through the Courts. Let them have a chance. BEFORE you declare martial law. Most of us end at Courts. But then again, we are not President.
Oh Christ. How many times do I have to explain original jurisdiction in these threads? Exhausting administrative remedies doesn't apply.
It only applies to the particular case at hand. In a case where it's state vs state, THERE ARE NO ADMINISTRATIVE REMEDIES.
Don't reply to me, then, reply to the person who said it applied. I only supplied a definition.
Any sources for this claim to read more..? Very unfamiliar with the legal rights of states as far as court room proceedings are concerned.
This
My feeble mind is currently unable to comprehend... Need to dumb it down.
Trump has to have tried every posibility in the lower courts in order to get in front of SCOTUS, which was the plan all along.
The Texas thing was not part of his plan but he would have still liked had it worked out, but it didnt, so now he keeps on with his original plan.
Today wasn't the end. It was a good idea that failed but it wasn't our last hope.
Do we know this?
Could also be that 5 or 6 are in on the plan, and this wasn't it.
We have tried every possible court!
There are no more chances with the courts, put it in your head
Thank you. I gotcha now.
>go back to the corrupt states and have your case thrown out
They did not weigh in. They said the state of Texas has no standing in the case. That is very different that WEIGHING IN on the merits.
It's a bullshit technicality and everyone knows it. They will rule just as badly on any suit Trump manages to bring to them.
I don't know if this is true. SCOTUS has to realize that any ruling that ultimately leads to Trump taking office is going to be among the most controversial in history.
If they see other cases pending that have better legal and technical merits than this one, would it not make sense to wait.
They may just be cherry-picking right now. They may or may not be evil -- that remains to be seen -- but they aren't stupid. They know this election is rigged. If they do want to do something about it, they will be taking great care to do it without starting a civil war.
Can I have a peek at your crystal ball? I'd love to make some investments.
Don't bother making excuses for the SCOTUS. They knew damn well what is at stake and CHOSE to look the other way!!
no, on two occasions SCOTUS could have addressed the matter of states violating the constitution in their conducting of elections but now in both cases have shut it down
the Texas case was the perfect filing for addressing that crucial matter - does the contract between the union of states - the constitution - matter any more?
Texas, as a state, has a billion times more standing on this basic point of grievance - the disenfranchisement that results when states that are party to this contract are able to violate it with impunity
SCOTUS just told the states that faithfully uphold the contract, that they have no recourse for grievance for when other states (conspiring together) violate the contract
that is utter tyranny - SCOTUS rubber stamped the fact that yes, we're under a system of tyranny
No, that is weighing in- silence is violence, remember?
Found the Rush fan.
Nothing has been sanctioned. The grounds for dismissing the Texas lawsuit was 'no precedent for legal standing'. POTUS has 4 more lawsuits making their way to SCOTUS and he has legal standing in all 4 lawsuits.
Sliding? Taking control?
Then maybe SCOTUS will hear it
Think of how much fucking time was wasted on Dominion when the thing that actually would have worked is signature invalidation.
Article2 cases to go back to requiring that could have been run in every state. Forensic audits, etc. instead... I heard “votes counted in a Germany” and “owned by a Venezuelan” two hundred times.
They printed ballots, a recount was always going to show a close number.
None of that is wasted. It is all very real and has real merit. How to expose it when the trail of evidence is all being wiped clean....
It all adds up to the inevitable. Foreign influence has thrown the outcome of the election.
All of that state cases have also been running their course.... pay attention.
My thought as well. Rudy is a great blunt instrument, this need some precision. Courts don't want to touch elections. It's too political for them.
The Dominion thing is real though, and has yielded concrete evidence. Signature verification relies on others to provide you with any evidence beyond affidavit, and as has been shown no-one wants to open pandora's box.
Dominion manipulating the vote is a real thing. It was only one attack vector of many.
Dr.Shiva showed that in one case they switched 30% from Trump to Biden. That was the only point where in reverse engineering everything added up. That totals in a whopping and near to unreal 60% difference. You really believe Joe got 82M votes? As of today and what we know, Joe's real count is more likely to be in the 30M range. This fraud is so big, that it becomes "too big to fail" and too dangerous to take it down.
Yeah. Basically SCOTUS told them it wasn't their jurisdiction and it was the State Supreme Courts. The remedy is at the State Level.
Except in Pennsylvania.
The Court their is Cucked. It would have to be through the Legislature
there, not their
Fag
Are you a fan of BLM cunts that liken the use of correct grammar to being “too white”? Not trying to be a prick, but come on man, everyone should know the correct use of their/there/they’re; it’s easy as fuck.
cigarette
Well it's PA supreme court that approved many election laws, so the only place to go it Scotus. But they delayed hearing that as well. So where else to go?
The streets
Yeah, but that's bullshit. They're pretending they can't take original arguments for States; but they can. They just don't want to.
Back to the State Level courts that will just throw it out. Fucking disgusting. The Supreme Court knew damn well what was at stake. They willingly chose to look the other way. Weak. Cowardly and weak.
Federal, not State
"just do what you were doing OOPS DECEMBER 14TH AND THE DEMOCRATS VOTED TO CERTIFY THE ELECTION DESPITE PENCE'S PROTESTS BECAUSE LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE ALL THIS B*LLSHIT COMES ABOUT FROM CUCKSERVATIVES INSISTING THAT DEMOCRATS WILL FOLLOW THE RULES -THIS TIME- AND THEN THEY DON'T"
Either declare martial law or consneed, everything else is just a silly benny hill skit of lesbian democrats quirkily saying 'hehe we destroyed the evidence so you can't PROVE we cheated' as some obese boomer goes "I FOUGHT FOR UR FREEDUMB IN 'NAM YOU CAIN'T DO THIS" while doing nothing.
Prove q is a counterop. You cannot. Because if you could, you'd have already done so beyond a shadow of a doubt. But you haven't and yuou won't because you cannot. Insults, smears and illogical arguments and logical fallacies are not a valid way to debunk. Q has been vindicated in the last month, NOT discredited.
The very reason you're talking about it is because you're kind of repeating mainstream media talking points: q is a conspiracy theory; q is a counter psyop; q is a cult; q is dangerous; q is insane militia; q is dumb
let me be very clear
shitting on q doesn't give you any more legitimacy. it won't get you into the cool kids club or the exclusive turtle club
So, why didn't they do ti that way to begin with?
So, just file in 1 of the contested states and fact find that way.
With respect, it's getting tiring all of these test case losses. I admire not giving up but much prefer firing on all cylinders for once and winning at least one fucking time before the clock runs out.
I prefer saying fuck the clock and hop into the action we all know the courts are making more and more inevitable. At the very least, we should have routes of communication and organization going.
Spot on.
Welp, John, if Trump is trying to stop WW3, doesn't look like it's working out well so far.
civil cases like this only require a preponderance of evidence and, if all of the material being tossed about is to be believed, they have that in spades.
These courts haven't allowed them to even show the evidence, they just throw them out for trivial reasons
Because the argument is too solid. You saw what happened at the state hearings. The democrats were so weak.
So, going back to the local states with "better/hard evidence" as SnipperSlippers suggests above, isn't going to matter.
They are. The texas lawsuit was a big splash. There are multiple others going on.
I would think any other lawsuit(s) would have already been filed if they were deemed stronger no?
This was a big splash.
What was the reason? I read that they said there was no injury.
No injury reason is why Rudy's cases will have success where this one didn't.
Rudy's cases are for Trump as the candidate who experienced injury.
I hope.
That is the literal Legal Requirement. For all the Shit Talking against SCOTUS, it is critical that they are following the Letter of The Law. By Refiling through DC Circuit, they can not deny it being heard, due to Lack Of Standing. He has Standing, and then all the facts are heard. It has to play out. This is a major turning point in US History, These Justices know this is their Legacy.
I find it hard to believe that Texas' lawsuit didn't clearly demonstrate that that fraud in those four states didn't injure the voters of Texas though.
This is a federal election. Fraud in one state negatives affects the voters in another state.
The only justifiable reason in my mind is the judges said it hasn't happened because they haven't appointed electors yet.
Interesting take.
If thats the case then its fucked that they wouldn't sit on it until that point.
This. It would mean that Alito either sabotaged it or is a moron.
I think it’s because the voters are not plaintiffs. The states themselves technically were not injured, the people were.
We need to let Biden takes the presidency through fraud before we can sue for the fraud
SCOTUS betrayed us.
"Negatively affects" isn't sufficient to generate standing, though. There needs to be a direct causal nexus. While I tend to believe the average Texas voter is directly affected by Pennsylvania's constitutional violations, it is true that the candidate themself is traditionally the one with standing to sue over election issues.
If the SCOTUS wants to leave that undisturbed, though, they had best be ready to give hearing to a case with more solid standing, even if it means gasp granting certiorari. If there's no other case they're eyeing, then throwing the Texas case on standing is the worst case in history of throwing the baby out with the bathwater - for something as important as a presidential election, ensuring an actual hearing on the merits is more important than picking nits over standing, at least for the highest court in the land.
Basically, if this was the only opportunity to give these claims a fair hearing at the SCOTUS and they rejected it, the justices have missed the forest for the trees and thrown out the country on a technicality. We'll see.
Its not.
The Trump team's cases have flown under the radar to this point.
They have cases in WI, GA, AZ, NV
This thread summarizes where those cases currently stand:
https://thedonald.win/p/11R4JGEHkU/on-scotus-from-a-lawyer/c/
I'll wait until they grant cert to believe it, and I'm not holding my breath.
Why in the fuck don’t they have a case in PA, the contested state with the most Electoral Votes that’s also probably THE easiest state to win???
What about Michigan and PA?
Agreed. Maybe there’s something more to come but this narrow legal definition of injury is such a kick in the nuts.
So millions of legal votes were negated by illegal votes and that is not considered injurious to constituents in the 20 states that signed on?!?
Yes we all agree that texas definitely has standing, rest of the scotus just cucked out I guess
Every legal fucking voter experienced injury because every illegal vote negates a legal one. So sick of these courts not allowing evidence to be presented even. What is the recourse if a party steals an election? Nothing?!
The problem with that is Trump joined the Texas lawsuit in his personal capacity and intervened in it. Wouldn't that give standing? Does it really matter who is the main plaintiff when you have the injured intervening on the suit?
They dismissed this BEFORE they allowed his request to “intervene”. Therefore his request to intervene was moot. This was some grade A bullshit. Texas has injury. And so does everyone who was joining. Especially Trump. But they threw it out before letting him join. Really really cowardly underhanded bullshit. Stinks to high heaven.
It dilute the Injury, according to analysts. That would be like you as a business owner getting robbed, and seeking remedy. Then one of your big customers intervening and joining in a Legal Action. It's not the best example, but it should hit the point.
Trump must file by himself which either happened last night, or happens today, per Rudy Jewels.
I think they're more attached to their salary.
They get paid a pittance of what they could earn elsewhere.
It's about the power and the fame.
They won't get their salary when they are in Gitmo.
I disagree. If the premise is that they are "Letter of The Law", then the matter of dilution of injury via Texas is big. Trump must refile, as his Injury is undeniable. He must do it through the proper channels, from a place of Standing. They will hear it.
The Legacy I see being sought is that they did it by the book, and to the letter of the Law. The whole world is watching.
How then does having “no standing” reconcile with Trump himself filing to intervene to be added as co-plaintiff?
He has to file directly, and singularly. Dilution of injury seem to be an issue. Kinda jumbles it up.
No Trump needs to invoke the insurrection act. Declassify everything and arrest people.
TO THE TOP!!!!
It didn’t shock me what happened with scotus. Trump has been good at keeping his promises. He promised to drain the swamp and he promised to defend the constitution. We will know shortly.
If he doesn't we need to do it ourselves and start an armed rebellion.
No matter how many times the state courts “cuck” us, we can still end up at a scotus hearing after following all the procedure (climbing the ladder of courts).
Just because scotus said Texas doesn’t have standing to sue PA etc doesn’t mean they’ll say the same about Trump’s personal election contest. He does have standing because he is the specific candidate that was defrauded by this.
Back to scotus, precedent matters above all in case law, sometimes even constitutionality sadly.
If scotus rules in the MI or PA (or any state from the TX lawsuit) hearing that only the state legislature can/could have/should have changed election law and procedure (as laid out in the constitution) then the same ruling would affect every state that used a non-legislative route to change their election laws.
The real question is what type of relief, if any, they would provide. And that’s where I’m currently dooming at the moment.
There’s nothing stopping them from going “the state legislature is the only body with the power to change election laws. Keep that in mind next time. Court adjourned”
Is it up to the SCOTUS to charge them with anything?
I think that’s completely up to DOJ. SCOTUS could rule that the officials did break the law, but I still don’t think current DOJ would ever charge them with it.
“They didn’t intend to break the law”
We really need to win about 12 steps in a row. All 4 of those cases need to A) Be taken up B) Be won by us C) Have beneficial relief rewarded.
Injury to Trumpnwoukdnt be that it effected him or he lost. It would be only if they prove fraud or that a violation of the laws may have effected the outcome.
Can’t “prove fraud or that a violation of the laws may have effected the outcome” if you’re never allowed your day in court.
TapsNoggin.jog
The reason was because Texas has no right to tell another state how to conduct election business. Election business is clearly defined in The Constitution and each state runs it as they see fit, for the most part. Nothing else matters. Doesn't matter if Texas was injured. Doesn't matter if they cheated. There's nothing in The Constitution that lets Texas tell another state what to do. There's no standing. It was a good try though and brought a lot of attention to the fraud. Next 4 cases will be more important and can't be tossed for lack of standing because they are from within the individual states.
I give TX props for forcing the AGs and people in government to take sides, though. If nothing else that was amazing intel
It WAS nice to see who would come out and stand on our side of the field.
Great point! This brought a lot of support out of the woods. E.g. the 126 republicans in the house.
Agreed. Texas truly is the Lone Star! The Alpha Male of the US states!
The electors clause, which IS part of the constitution, that ALL states must agree to, says that only legislatures can change election procedures. This was violated.
Amen.
Redpill: This "pass through" legal reasoning goes against American/English law, and would require nullification of our Republic.
We can win legally, by cleaning barnicles off the USS Constitution, rather than drilling holes in the hull and removing internal bracing.
The WIN WIN Plan:
https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8EhtERu/for-everyone-who-wants-djtpence-/
LONG LIVE OUR REPUBLIC!
But Roe v Wade, something made up out of thin air, and SCOTUS upholding DACA, a completely illegal EXECUTIVE action, is completely acceptable in American law. Give me a break with this retarded logic.
If this was Obama that gained 11 million votes in his re-election, and there was clear and obvious fraud on the Republican side (with video and hundreds of testimonies) , and there was a 6-3 democrat majority on SCOTUS...what the fuck do you think the result be? They'd reverse this shit so quick your head would spin. GOP party is a spineless bunch of losers and your comment contributes to that.
Yes, I know the game, as I spell out here in this pre Election Day comment. And this is why to not give an inch for wiggle room.
https://thedonald.win/p/11PVyVHES9/x/c/19BaD16yMq
Read the WIN WIN PLAN.
My courage is unbreakable, battle tested, irl lifetime, and online.
Help them find their strength or lend them some of yours. You wont make them stronger by increasing fear or low-expectations. Make them Strong! Give the State Legislatures the Constitutional info they need, most are "normies" with day jobs/previous careers. Give them the accurate info on fraud. Give them strength & prayers to know you are by their side, and not abandoning the trenches.
You are right but miss on a key point. The constitution clearly tells how the states are to conduct their elections and that is through the laws set by each state’s legislators. That is the contract that all the states agreed upon when entering the union under the constitution. If these 4 states had passed laws through their respective state legislators that TX didn’t like then yes, TX would have no standing.
But these 4 states clearly went around the constitution and broke their contract by bypassing the state legislators and set up their own laws which ended in fraud. Thus, TX and all other states should have standing on which to sue these states as it affects them for breaking the agreement that they all signed onto.
I'm not saying it's inarguable. I'm saying that is is arguable however. I think SCOTUS knows they are going to have to rule on the election and they didn't want it to be this case. Alito and Thomas were dissenting to show us something.
I agree that they are trying to delay the inevitable and perhaps they’re watching the other cases closely and know they can give a better ruling with these other cases but I think ultimately that would be dumb plus who else is to hear states that are suing one another on a basis of breaking their contract with the constitution if not the Supreme Court? That’s why you have them, so that they don’t go to war with each other and they can set precedent for future cases based off the constitution.
Plus you had basically had half the states on one side and the other half on the other side. Like that should be 100% a case that the Supreme Court should take.I think they are just cowards.
No I didn't miss that. That's why I made sure to say "for the most part". What SCOTUS is saying (and it is arguable) is that EVEN THOUGH those states may have broken their own laws (or The Constitution itself), TX has "no standing" to bring that case. Even if they are impacted (they said all other points are moot). That case has to get there through other means. Alito and Thomas disagree and I do too, but I understand the argument, and I also believe it would set a terrible precedent for other cases if they did take it up.
5 cases. scotus never dropped the PA case
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they drop the PA case on the same grounds.
If Texas, +18 (?) states, along with ~100 house of representative members cosigning, along with the Georgia legislators cosigning, and even with the president cosigning. I don't see how this case could possibly lack standing.
Thank you.
Well, the President will continue to allow each state and each branch of government a chance to indicate by their actions whether they are corrupt, or not.
Just to give you an example of the likely outcome... In 1861, Lincoln took over the country using War Powers, closed over 300 newspapers, removed one supreme court justice, suspended habeas corpus and enforced military justice for all U.S. citizens.
President Trump will probably not have to go that far to defend our country from this cyber warfare attack, but ultimately he has the power to do whatever it takes to get rid of the internal corruption of those that colluded with our attackers.
All it takes is Chinese control of 270 votes. The remaining states no longer are free.
For federal positions. The difference of Pelosi being Speaker or not. Whether we continue to control the Senate. And most importantly each state agreed to electing President by an elector system (as opposed to duel to the death) that is good as the integrity of each state. The constitution outlays the rules and States should be confined to that.
Easiest way to know it's wrong is if it was the other way and Republicans were cheating, the election would've already been overturned.
Realistically, it probably has happened before, it's just that no one has either bothered to notice or to do something about it.
technically you could argue that even if these states defrauded themselves blue that injury has not occurred to TX
even if they go blue it does not guarantee to change the outcome of the election. in our situation that is the plan but for TX a state's electors going for the opposite candidate does not, in and of itself, guarantee injury
it's only when that changed state outcome becomes part of the larger whole election outcome that you could argue injury. these are hypothetical ideas I am playing with
it does and I agree but on the other hand, states are entitled to their own rights against interference. I think TX's approach "inaction will disenfranchise as many voters as taking action allegedly would" is too ambiguous and the inability to prove that the defendant states' unconstitutional laws actually changed the outcome of their state election which then is solely responsible for changing the outcome of the election at the federal level...is hard to prove
but I agree with you that unconstitutional laws are unconstitutional laws. it seems to me the remedy for unconstitutional laws is in having the in-state disenfranchised voters sue those who made the unconstitutional laws, then appeal it up to SCOTUS
Irrelevant. Fraud was not the complaint. Unconstitutional usurpation of state legislature authority injured all states in the union by delegitimizing the vote. Every state has a vested interest in outcome of a federal election because of federalism, otherwise we wound be under articles of confederation still. States that held unconstitutional elections injured states that obeyed the state legislature. Unequal and illegal election resulted.
I don't disagree in spirit but I think it is a hard case to argue jurisdiction.
if there is a plaintiff with standing in this case then that plaintiff is in the defendant states. that is the primart battleground where disenfranchisement and dilution of the vote via relaxed, unconstitutional election laws took place.
the plaintiff in this case should come from within those states, not from Texas from a once-removed onlooker position.
if no plaintiff fights it within state, then who is the complainant? it's not like Pennsylvania et al. changed the number of electoral votes they get to cast. if no voters within state claim to have been injures by the unconstitutional law then it is difficult to prove that injury took place.
playing devil's advocate
Last I checked, all states are members of the union. It's one pool. If you miss in your part, I still pay the consequences. I never agreed to swim in piss water, and we all signed a contract to prevent it. Degree is irrelevant.
Best plaintiffs would state legislature, but they are not AG or gov, uncertain if they can file suit for state with SCOTUS. Notably, many did file amicus briefs for tx.
But we can’t sue ourselves. GA is screwing over TX that’s what this is about
Texan voters of all stripes are entitled to a fair electoral process, as deemed by the constitutional agreement between the states that empowers solely the state legislatures to enact federal elections. Party is irrelevant. Legality of the vote and subsequent electoral integrity is paramount.
"No standing" to the plaintiff
which is an arguable point. it would have set a terrible precedent. there are better cases for us and scotus will hear them. then we see how they rule.
"Better cases" "terrible precedent" are weasel words used to avoid responsibility. It's literally their constitutional role. They could have ruled on the merits and provided some kind of reasoned resolution. Instead they punted and further delayed justice. Inexcusable bordering on evil.
You sound hasty. We will see.
4 years of injustice across the branches....how much more do you need to see? I'm all for forcing them to play it out, fighting to the end and beyond, but the judiciary is not an ally of the constitution when it comes to djt.
I am not so sure about that.
IF State A violates waterway laws that injure state B then State C, etc have a right to file a law suit against State A as it can impact them in the future if the waterway laws are not upheld even if they are not directly the damaged party.
It is one thing to have a state have its OWN laws. But when we are talking about laws agreed upon by 50 STATES there is no wiggle room.
You seem reasonable.
Roe vs Wade is arguably a terrible precedent, and they heard that?
US vs Windsor (DOMA). They heard that.
are you surprised it happens? they'll hear one of the cases. they know they have to. if not? then we see.
No. I'm not surprised anything happens any more. The last time I was surprised something happened was when Trump actually won in 2016.
They need to hear all 4 cases, then we need to win all 4 cases, then we need just relief rewarded in all 4 cases.
I give it till near the inauguration for military intervention to play out but they're leaving plenty of people with nothing to lose.
In my personal opinion, that would be cutting it much too fine.
Well I think there's also a downside to acting too soon. Trump in my opinion will give the order if he has to. And that I will heed whenever.
The same military that ignored Trump's BLM/Antifa orders back mid summer?
That was Esper, who is gone now.
So why are BLM/Antifa still around?
I mean either all the EO's and shit were for a reason and there really is a military sting going on or we're fucked. Happy?
Given the extent of Obamagate and spygate and lockdown cities and BLM/Antifa crimes and fraudulant elections and with nary an arrest to show, I am starting to wonder if we are beyond being royally fucked.
{{gun cleaning intensifies}}
Because you can't gestapo go get them in the middle of the night. That makes you look fucking unhinged and it tramples ALL over their constitutional rights. They're scum and I don't think scum should have rights, but they have them nonetheless.
They get due process just like we do. The only time that doesn't happen is when they're marked as terrorists/enemy combatants. You really want to avoid using that against other Americans though. It looks really bad. Like night of the long knives bad.
And I believe the FBI is the only ones that have the ability to add groups to the domestic terrorist list (though the approval of the Senate/intelligence committtee). And it makes difficult if they don't announce themselves as ANTIFA.
That's why they're still around. They haven't been overly active enough to warrant federal intervention. ANTIFA is fucking with cops in Portland and BLM is just crying on Twitter because some old racist white man won't meet with them after they gave him tens of millions of dollars.
there will be no military intervention this isn't a comic book
Oh so when generals are calling for military intervention that's just a comic book? What qualifications do you have? Professional comic book reader?
You sound like a doomer fag to me
Lol you truly are a doomer fag
no what does that mean?
I tried to reply. I'll edit my post with an addendum if the other reply disappeared.
It means SCOTUS won't hear any more arguments or cases regarding the election. The military option is the only one left.
SCOTUS definitely sent that message loud and clear: hands washed. Pontius Pilate. No one - not state legislatures, not district courts, not Congress, not the Supreme Court, not the FBI, CIA, US Marshals, local police ... NO ONE wants to be a patriot. No one wants to stick their nose out. I am kind of starting to hate my own countrymen. I am starting to think I'm just a dinosaur.
No they didn't That's not what they said at all. They said TEXAS cannot bring the complaint against those states because TEXAS isn't an 'injured party'.
In election cases, typically, only the people involved with a stake (Trump and Biden) have a direct right to claim injury and have standing. There have been multiple cases about this, just not one of this magnitude.
The SCOTUS doesn't want to rule on this case and set precedent that opens the door for other states to throw shade at eachother and sue eachother over anything.
There's logic in their ruling, even if I disagree with it. I side with Texas having standing because due to fraud and their breach of the constitutional contract, those states and disenfranchised Texas voters. The issue with the argument is it's vague and would open the door for a slew of problems if SCOTUS ruled on it.
Also, SCOTUS HAS to respond to these cases. When a state sues another state, it's auto SCOTUS. They have to respond to this shit.
I think SCOTUS is waiting for the other cases to be exhausted in the lower circuit courts so they can take it so it can be heard and argued. Those WILL have standing since those have Trump in his personal capacity as the direct plaintiff. And they'll hear it. They are waiting for one of the more clean and succinct ones so that when they do rule (I don't know how they'll rule or what remedy is being pursued) the precedent is clear with little room to twist their ruling into something it's not.
They're protecting the integrity of the court and upholding the law in the most strict and unbending sense.
I'm not happy with them dismissing TX. I actually really liked that brief alot. But I'm not going to shit on them for being unbending with the law and them wanting to protect it against those in the future that would attempt to twist their precedence into something it's not.
How do you reconcile all of that with Trump himself filing to be added as co-plaintiff?
They also dismissed the case that was from PA senators. What was the excuse there?
They won't do anything.
Dinosaurs ruled the world for 60 million years. They were a towering success.
Keep your head up. Win or lose, there is work to be done
they went extinct too.
Indeed. Wonder if people will make it 60 million years.
I agree with you and totally understand. All the arms of the law (which you listed) are corrupt or cowards.
Trump really is on his own and it's sad and unfair. I hate that the Republicans allowed all this to happen. But I hate the Democrats for having zero integrity to cheat like this anyway. I have no respect for any of these people save for Trump himself and his legal team.
They said the Texas lawsuit didn't have legal standing, POTUS has 4 lawsuits making their way to SCOTUS that do have legal standing.
no, it means the TX case is tossed. there are plenty of other cases that can not be tossed due to no standing. they'll hear them.
and they'll get tossed just like all of the other others.
Then Trump uses the Insurrection act. No biggie.
He is the Command in Chief, the military does what he says or they are relieved of their command.
They may get tossed but they cannot be tossed for 'no legal standing'.
Sure doesn't sound like it with Monday approaching.
Okay, dude. Look. I'll be as direct as I can, okay?
The 14th. Does. Not. Matter. Just like 'President-Elect' Does. Not. Matter. It's a title. It can be taken away. States can be decertified after the 14th. They CANNOT -CANNOT- certify if there is pending litigation against those states. Jan 6th is the hard date. The 14th doesn't matter. Litigation is litigation.
So stop acting like the 14th is the day of the apocalypse. It's not. It's just the process. Yes, it gets it closer and it shifts the public perception of Biden into something more legitimate, but that's the way it goes.
If you want to scream at the moon, wait until Jan 6th to do it. Because that's when the certs are sent to the house/senate/VP for final review and acceptance. And EVEN THEN - if there's a house rep and senator that contest ANY of the certs from ANY of the states, the VP has the ability to REJECT those states certs. I don't know if that's ever been done or not, but that ability exists and can be used IF you can get a senator and house rep to contest and the VP to go along with it. I BELIEVE there's a house rep that already said he would contest. So now it comes down to a senator to join him and the VP to break out of the suffocating caste they have created to bind them. It's a lot to ask of someone. And it uncommon. But we live in uncommon times.
I find it strange that Pence doesn't really talk about the election theft though. He keeps shit pretty low key I don't know if that's a good or bad thing.
they were just filed
until WHEN? this cant go on indefinitely.
No it doesn't, it means SCOTUS won't hear this lawsuit filed by Texas. They will most likely hear one of the other lawsuits filed by POTUS that are making their way to SCOTUS.
Really? In 2 days? That's a longshot if it's not a shut-out and it looks like a shut out on this side of the screen.
Nothing important happens in 2 days. Jan 6th and 20th are the only important dates. SCOTUS didn't toss the lawsuit for lack of evidence, they tossed it for 'no precedent for legal standing'. Those lawsuits do have legal standing.
Oh - I missed the part where they held / delayed the voting for the electoral college, or the part where it's ever been reversed. Even Bush-Gore happened hours ahead of the EC vote.
What did you hear? I'd love to see it!
Do whatever you want to, I'm not following you, I'm following POTUS. POTUS has filed these 4 lawsuits for a reason.
Pres is pissed.
Yes, Texas or other Lawsuits where SCOTUS doesn't have to either hear the case(s) or even rule on them. This is another reason why the WIN WIN Plan works so well, because these legal & technical problems, like all other problems, are avoided.
Trump said a month ago he wanted to do a "big beautiful lawsuit against all the states" but lawyers told him he won't have standing.
The WIN WIN Plan doesn't require standing, nor realistically allow SCOTUS refusal.
The WIN WIN Plan can resolve the issues in the Texas Lawsuit; but the Texas lawsuit doesn't resolve the WIN WIN Plan.
Focus on State Legislators for Electors! 2 days remaining!
The WIN WIN Plan:
https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8EhtERu/for-everyone-who-wants-djtpence-/
LONG LIVE OUR REPUBLIC!
There is still time for State Legislators to do their Constitutional duty.
With the Fraud, means all the States that cheated/frauded) will lose 25-50% of it's House Seats for this next decade (2022-2032) during reapportionment from this US Census; as per 14th Amend, Section 2.
Republican House SuperMajority: https://thedonald.win/p/11QlB7elzZ/x/c/4DpMxWIOHO5
Focus on State Legislators for Electors! 2 days remaining!
Have you succeeded getting this argument before any working lawyers? It seems someone should throw this simple argument at the wall to see if it'll stick. Trump himself at the very least, he's got standing everywhere. This has also been his message all along that he won on election night, and Joe "won" 4 days later.
How will the state legislatures appoint the electors? How can they do it?
https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8EhtERu/x/c/4DpMxkNWgL3
Why arent they just doing that then?
Likely because, 1.) they are normies, most people don't know it's Constitutionally that simple; 2.) there are lots of unconstitutional laws telling them "muh democracy" and "muh governor" and other things; and 3.) obviously there's significant political bluepilled reasons to keep State Legislators in the dark about the power they Constitutionally wield.
Why isnt this pinned by mods?????????????????????? 24 7``??
nothing else matters right now
Abe knows.
Let's fucking go.
I think they're actually terrified. They know that there are 74M plus of us and that we're fucking angry. Conservatives are "gun nuts". We're going to blow them away if our military can prevent too much CCP interference and arming of libs.
The totalitarian tiptoe turned into the totalitarian sprint. They're scared and doing whatever they can to try to prevent Trump's 2nd term. They're not ready for what will happen but it's like a collision course.
Let their hubris be their downfall.
This is not them terrified. This is them winning. If Trump doesn't act, they have won. Why should they be afraid?
We've got to be LOUD AF
Exactly. Because if you've donated a cent to the Trump campaign you're already on a list for retribution. Loud and free or quiet and crushed?
1st amendment doesn't liquify human material.
Uh, if you look at the front page of the US Supreme Court website, you'll see that basically they've put plywood over everything and locked all the doors until further notice.
It couldn't be because of this odd not-an-opinion-but-still-an-opinion dismissal, could it? I mean they don't shut the Supreme Court to all public access until further notice just because Goldman Sachs has standing but Texas doesn't.
What are you talking about? This?
https://www.supremecourt.gov/
Here's a snapshot from 2018. Exact same site back then except for no Covid-19 warning, of course -
https://archive.is/Uy6zk
Here's one from March. Again exact same site design but includes an update for changes due to Covid-19 -
Press Release
*Postponement of March Oral Arguments
Out of concern for the health and safety of the public and Supreme Court employees, the Supreme Court Building will be closed to the public from 4:30 p.m. on March 12, 2020, until further notice. The Building will remain open for official business, and case filing deadlines are not extended under Rule 30.1. *
https://archive.is/BNOKC
Yes, that was what I was referring to. Thanks for pointing out it is something that is ongoing and not a reactive thing to the current situation.
I was misinformed, thank you for bringing up the truth.
Pres is pissed
Press is happy
FIGHT ON!
I only have one thing to say to the Presdient: It's time for twitter fingers to turn to trigger fingers. Enough is enough. They want a street fight, let's give them one.
The people who did this won't be in the streets. I think they would welcome a chance to use the streetfight to manipulate the public further. I'm not sure how to smoke them out but I hope someone does know
The dems staging protests at government and their families houses was effective.
It's always to nice to have that deep seated uneasiness of an unhappy mob, directly angry at you, outside your door.
People MUST remember this.
Any guess what happens on dec 14?
Seriously the trust the plan people and legal routes after the 14th are the new q tards. Probably some overlap. I don’t have to believe to understand the saying god helps those who helps themselves
The thing that boggles my mind though is why everyone close to Trump is still acting calm and like they will still win this. I don't want to fall back into that "trust the plan" blind faith Q-esque mindset, but unless some big shit happens by Monday I don't really see what other options there are. Supposedly the Senate or House or Congress in general has the ability to contest the election a weekish before Inauguration Day?
Like I don't want to be a doomer either, but at this point we're running out of time and unless Trump does something crazy like declare martial law or has a way to block things by going the foreign interference route, it's hard to see how the hell a win is possible unless the goal is to cripple Joe's administration and fix the election system so Dems can't just ruin make themselves the uniparty.
Flynn said 10/10 Trump wins
Yeah and I do lean on trusting him. Just would be nice if we could skip to the good part and end this stupid dramatic struggle.
And people can't believe Trump will be alive forever or a free man forever. And who is our next big voice? New York can plant bogus charges on Trump and anyone close to him.
It's possible they are just cool headed people. Also I think they realize that there will still be a fight to continue even if trump is removed from the presidency.
Unfortunately that seems most likely. But there's still hope.
I'm sure China wants that.
That's the name of some great battle music you know. We can play this on speakers when the day of commie killing comes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQDLBKpbXQU
Trump has made it very clear he will fight until there is a fair result.
He might have to issue the insurrection act (and then immediately evacuate DC as I think Homeland Security is arming up to force Trump out via coup).
Some special Trumo supporters will also be there.
Illegal to carry in DC, I doubt people would risk getting prison time for that 😞
This is why they constantly cuck you wiith "Back the Blue" and Gun laws.
Our hands are so weak and shaky that we would immediately bend over if asked.
"What!? I would never spread them!"
Lmao, sure little bitch, let me see say that when you're taken aside to have your constituional rights violated by a TSA agent.
With the influx of gun nuts and football heads, I thought we'd have a little moire spunk than this. But it's become pretty clear that most us would still rather watch the action from a big screen at home, than participate in the game.
With the new pentagon rearrangement, GEOTUS owns the DOD again.
Explain?
GEOTUS has been cleaning house at the Pentagon and DOD. Fired traitors from positions of power and installed loyalists who will not ignore the orders that will be coming.
Unpoopular opinion, but I'm thinking there was legitimacy to their not taking the case at this time as technically there's been no "injury" per se to POTUS as electors have yet to be ordained. I think if it goes back to them they'll take it once the traitors lock themselves in to giving pedo joe the fake electors. Then they bitch slap them.
We'll see what happens though. We're all prepped for the final solution if need be.
I just hope burns it down before he leaves office and doesn't try on to "pass on useful unconstitutional tools" to his successor.
Source?
Search “Trump dod firings”
They can’t force him out until Jan 20th soooo 🤷♂️
Which there haven't. There was a massive election fraud conspiracy going on and all the powers aligned to support and enable the fraud and let everyone possibly get away with it AND succeed.
This is a coup. A BLATANT coup. If they really succeed, the USA will be known as a Banana Republic. You will never recover from something like this. 2024 there will be the 25th wave of Covid, and the same shit will be pulled off.
Why? Because it worked 2020, nobody was even punished or fined, and nothing will change with a Kleptocrat presidency over the next years. GOP will just return to the old days of full cuck mode and compromise with the left at basically every matter.
The deep state reclaimed its government, plebs. Time to lick the boot. And prepare for 4 years of exclusively positive, pro-government, pro-Biden/Harris MSM reporting. And prepare for MASSIVE unrestrained censorship emanating from Big Tech against you. You will not last 4 years of such erosion.
Fight now, or kneel forever. And as such, the rest of the world will share your "Dark Winter" as well.
Geotus never backs down let’s fucking go.
Stay Whitepilled. Being blackpilled does nothing and only hurts us. We need to stay fighting.
Caesarpill
Crimson
...a little bit of black and a little bit of red
There's no point fighting unless there was even a sliver of probable victory.
Bronze pill
The redpill.
They have shot us point blank, tried to rip our mothers out of cars and then arrested them for driving to protect themselves, they have used our children's lives as human collateral with school, they are threatening to forcefully vaccinate you and your kids holding us hostage in exchange for our basic human freedoms, they have eliminated the greatest and last bastion of control over our sovereignty by provably without repercussion committing unapologetic voter fraud....what is the white pill you're looking for, exactly?
You have potential. That began as a good rallying cry.
I have crossed my own personal rubicon, as they say, I suppose.
So what are you saying? Go ahead and talk if that's what you want.
Most of the shills are trying to convince everyone that military action cannot work and that nobody will ever fight back. They are trying to take away that call to action. Those are the shills. The mods don't give a fuck and are letting them run hogwild.
I agree to a fault. Trump will let us know when it's time to go. Trust that
Yeah its the democrats and the media holding the line right now. If we don't advance on them they win.
It's a double-pincer, full envelopment, plan. The center has to HOLD or slightly fall back, while the flanks encircle. BUT THE WHOLE LINE HAS TO HOLD TOGETHER.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cannae
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cowpens
The WIN WIN Plan:
https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8EhtERu/for-everyone-who-wants-djtpence-/
LONG LIVE OUR REPUBLIC!
There is still time for State Legislators to do their Constitutional duty.
Focus on State Legislators for Electors! 2 days remaining!
I wonder where hold the line comes from.
I kind of think of british red coats. All in line, holding their gun forward aiming it at the patriots.
Hold the line is like being a redcoat, saying it is being a fucking traitor to America. We don't fight like fucking redcoats.
OK, thanks for setting us all straight, hardass. Glad you’re here to correct people, that’s gonna give us the dub for sure.
Yeah, keep doing that thing.
Just keep in mind his last words there:
He isn't conceding, so that means you shouldn't either. It may not feel like we have any effect on things, but it's better than nothing, so put that big-dick MAGA energy out into the universe.
Fighting on puts us in no worse of a situation than if we give up.
Yeah, I guess you’re right!
You heard the man, fight on.
dont you fucking concede, geotus. refuse to move out of the white house. announce it!
This. Losing was never an option.
If you're going to give up, you don't belong here at all.
You think he's going to concede and let them destroy his family and empire?
GFTO with that weak sauce bro. The fight's just getting good.
Also known as Calling Up The Militia.
I will not shirk my duty.
His tweets are throttled by Twitter. Any call to arms wouldn't make it to the airwaves unless he tried the Emergency Broadcast SMS & Television system. Only people with Antenna based TV would get the Televised signal because Cable Providers and Satellite providers do NOT have to air it. When you send that many SMS, carriers spam filters will kick in and i doubt all of the SMS will actually reach target. who knows. Whens the last time they tested it? yeah.
Yeah, you're right. He has no reliable way of communicating with us. Except for the exact way you mentioned that we all know about already. Except for that, no way at all!
He doesn't, when they don't want to allow him to.
The only thing he can do is what he can do. If he has to use it, then that's what he has to do. If they stop him, they stop him. That's just war. You do what you have to do.
With those fake missiles hitting Hawaii
This is what I am saying! Get the people involved!
FIGHT ON!!
I hope this comment gets some love. I feel the same
Realistically, there are only a handful of patriots in the entire federal government. It has become so bloated and corrupt that there is no saving it from the inside. Just look at how the deep state rallies to destroy and impede Trump at every turn. The only way this gets fixed is by cleaning house and restructuring. That's the only way. Courts, DOJ, NOTHING else is going to save this Republic.
Declare martial law!!! Do it
Hope for the best, but keep the rifle loaded.
It is with upmost sadness and disappoint that I write today. In light of recent events pertaining to the handling of the 2020 presidential election and the response or lack thereof by elected officials willfully ignoring allegations and evidence of election fraud that undermines the peoples faith in the system. The will of the people has been ignored. Without a free and fair election the republic no longer represents the citizens of the United States of America. For this reason I have to begrudgingly endorse secession from the United States and the formation of a new Free State of Liberty.
We already have the CSA acronym still warm from the confederate states, so I dig it.
Nah I feel like we should hang on to USA. It's iconic. Let's rebrand them instead as SDA or something -- Socialist Dictatorship of America
they already have a name. The United Nations.
the only thing that unites them is their collective puppet masters.
Uniparty Soros Agents
New Dixie
Go be sad somewhere else.
Is Fight on a signal?
ON
!
It simply means he's not conceding or giving up
Great point
Insurrection Act now
Amen, Trump. This doesn't pass the smell test. Scotus has no spine. Rinos have no testicles. But we all know the truth
Please don't give up, ever.
MAGA party or no party.
The new rules are there are no rules. I wish people on the right would get that, sticking to the rules is a huge disadvantage when the other side never does.
All is fair in war.
You heard him FIGHT ON
Standing is a joke. Courts just abdicating their duty.
HE JUST SAID THE SC HELPED RIG THE ELECTION. I do not know how else you can read the “between the lines” on how he crafted that tweet.
The SC punted and will try to run out the clock. They will later claim like the lower courts did that it would be too late if the law suits come after the electors vote.
Or any case that just so happens to make it through the lower courts will be remanded back to those courts. We're being played by all of them.
It is one giant sad joke at this point.
I wanted SC to delay the 14th electoral vote at least. Worried electoral vote in favor for Biden...
CONCEDE OR TELL US TO BURN THE FUCKING THING DOWN, ENOUGH ALREADY WITH THIS FIGHT ON SHIT. These people think fighting is making memes and salt posts. If this election was stolen then this country is no more, and he needs to SAY it. You didn’t get “screwed”, we lost the United States of America, it’s bigger than trump. I’m sorry but I’m at my breaking point and all I keep reading are excuses to sit and wait more.
The Republic is lost today. The constitution means nothing.
The numerical effect of the massive fraud is the reviving of Dred Scott, in which the red states are populated totally by blacks. Just another algorithm.
The Dominion "Dred Scott" Voting Machine. Guaranteed to whip your opponent.
Get the fuck out, you H1B apologist piece of shit.
The sooner people accept the supreme court is compromised the better. I guarantee you the moment Trump files "with reason" they will just give another excuse. Does that mean it's over? Fuck no.
I'm just perplexed why so many people here expected this to be resolved with just court cases. Our entire government is fucking compromised. Look at how many government employees have been exposed as linked to dominion, chinese money, etc. just over the past two weeks. There was never any way that these people would just give up power through court battles. Trump is literally fighting every single position of power in our country plus china right now. I don't know why anyone expected this would end with a court case. They are all in too deep.
I'm not dooming but people here need to be realistic. We need to start networking, mobilizing and preparing for a fight. I would love to still solve all of this peacefully but I'm not gonna drink kool-aid until a commie kicks in my door either. There is no downside to gearing up and preparing right now.
Yes, people need to come to terms with it. The whole thing is compromised top to bottom.
EO 9-12-18.... Incoming Marshal Law with mass arrests!
-1500 daily flights within the United States - all Miltary Aircraft -FOB being set up in key locations -Medical Facilities excepting injuries and KIA -Heavy Equipment being moved in a rapid pace
-Family members of Active Personal confirming a Domestic National Threat, ANTIFA & BLM being supplied weapons of WAR from China and IRAN being stored in facilities within Liberal cities....
Look at early Jan....
the military movement is for operation warp speed you dumb faggot. the mandatory vaccine they are politely trying to convince people they should get.
Military doesn't squawk on transponders that you can track. I don't know how you can even claim that many flights. AKA, you don't know because you don't have the tools to track it because military aircraft normally don't turn their civilian transponders on and even when they do, online tracking doesn't track military aircraft by design.
There's no need for FOB's when you have actual installations/bases that are typically within a 50 mile radius of a major city. Again, this is silly and not practical for the military to do. We don't live in Afghanistan.
Medical Facilities are prepping for for COVID vaccines and that's it. Your conspiracy would rely on thousand of people preparing and all of them not leaking. That's not going to happen. And the last people you would prep over things like that are health care.
Heavy equipment? What? What exactly? Where? From? To? All equipment for the military are in a state of readiness. Tanks/planes/APC/whatever. They get maint regularly in the event they have to be used, they work.I don't know what heavy equipment and where that equipment is.
They're not being funded directly by China and Iran dude. And it's not them. It's Soros funding them through a charity that they're using to purchase firearms. I've seen pictures of an ANTIFA leader. Fucker has a SCAR-L. That's at 4000 dollar rifle. Also why would civilians that are related to active military have this super secret eyes only intel?
Get better theories. Yours suck.
who the hell is going to mass arrest?
Is this the "Dark Winter"?
I agree, you know what they've done to leadership in the military for the past decade? They've retired many good generals, colonels and leaders (all white men) and replaced them with women, black men and black women. There are more black (Lt) colonels and generals than ever before in the military (and an ever-growing non-American foreign immigrant population in the lower ranks from the likes of Africa, South America and China) right now and I hate to say it, but this IS a race thing in this scenario, that's why they did it in the first place, "for diversity". You know what what that diversity has caused? Well, judging by non-white and female voting records, one of the most democrat friendly militaries in history. It is also a steadily weakening military as well.
It's time to go full Roman and line the highways with crucified politicians, judges, and all other deep staters.
When your legal remedies are exhausted, you have to remind them why they should have chosen a legal remedy.
I think these SCOTUS judges were acting out of fear. Fear of reigniting mass riots, and carnage from the violent left. Our differences could not be clearer. We approach our grievances by compiling evidence, presenting our cases, and working through the legal system. The problem is, our legal systems, and the courts do not work for us. Our highest courts bow to the anarchists. Politics are the goggles they use to view everything through. They are cowards, and they are taking the path of least resistance. Even if they know that it is unjust.
They also just set precedent that fraud is legal.
I'll bet if our side tries the same thing in the next election they'll suddenly care.
I guess SCOTUS didn't think of what happens if you piss off your food supply.
Antifa don't farm.
They dont farm, build, repair, transport or maintain society and are going to be in for a rude fucking awakening when the internet shits itself due to loss of power.
POV: you’re the president of the united states
Username checks out
TRUMP, take our country back BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. GLOBALIST HEADS WILL ROLL
Need to set up Regional/State means of communication ASAP. I am in Arkansas, anyone else holler at me! We need to organize "Peaceful Protest's" ALL OVER THESE COMMIES!!
Enough is WAY PAST enough! Organize, destabilize opponents, #MAGA
The tolerant left will now be singing the praises of Barrett and Kavanaugh, after doing their hardest to destroy them. POTUS stood by them all the way.
Every time I see one of his tweets with that disputed disclaimer I want to piss on Jack Dorsey's stupid face.
RIGGED ELECTION. FIGHT ON!
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
Nice handshake moron.
nice. I was a member here since before emails were required so i can't reset my password. Fuck you. Browser cache emptied since i was hacked the same day as the fucking SSO update on TDW.