I really have a hard time with people dumping everything on God's plate.
If God gave you a healthy baby, YOU feed it and nourish it and teach it and love.
If God gives you a bunch of commie fucks trying to ruin your country, YOU fucking fix it.
And at the same time, I should say that Jesus was most certainly a man of peace and while civil disobedience may soon be in order, there is no need for killing. Not now.
No you need to read it with an open mind and stop lumping the Old and New Testaments together. Jesus was a rebel against the OT. Instead of "eye for an eye" he said to turn the other cheek. Instead of talking about sins, he talked about love. Instead of making God a thing to fear, he said "the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand".
And that 10:34 quote is not literal. "Jesus’ followers are peacemaker-evangelists who speak the blessing of peace on families where they stay. Nevertheless, response to the message of the Kingdom will be mixed: some will accept the message and others will reject it. Because of this, families will be divided, conflict will ensue. Thus, in the sword passage Jesus reminds his followers of his supreme worth and the need to follow him regardless of the negative fallout."
That's one interpretation I quickly found. I'm no Biblical Scholar. But I can tell you there is a lot that has been altered and translated back and forth and to take anything 100% literally is silly. Read it all and understand best you can and get a feeling for what Jesus was on about. It certainly was not violence.
You're thinking only materially. While families may still be getting fed, children are being raised to accept and embrace degeneracy. While they're still living in their homes, the average age a child discovers pornography is 10-11. While stores are open, churches are locked. While the parents may have jobs, the children are indoctrinated to become selfish, Godless individuals at public schools, with a future of hedonism and addiction.
If people were starving and homeless, yet remained virtuous and hopeful in God, it would be better than it is now, where people are fed, live well, but have lost their soul.
Meanwhile, babies continue to be slaughtered in the wombs of their own mothers, teenagers and young children are permanently harming their bodies irreversibly with hormones, and in some cases lopping off their own genitals. Women are forfeiting their potential motherhood in favor of working pointless jobs, men are sacrificing their potential fatherhood for video games and pornography. The list goes on...
While people may be fed and living comfortably, the majority are miserable. We've sacrificed everything good for the sake of convenience, tricked into slaving away for the very people who wish to destroy our long term happiness for the sake of money and power.
I agree that all of what you said is happening. But it was also happening in Rome. And in Rome, Christ’s disciples preached the gospel, not the war drum.
There is a time for war. Juda Maccabee comes to mind. But you need to be at the point where there is positively no other means of peaceable redress. I honestly don’t think we’re there. Not yet.
I should clarify that the threshold for giving your own life must be lower than for taking someone else’s.
No, it’s to their own egos. If the Supreme Court has issued a ruling, that is the Republic issuing a ruling. Now they may be wrong. Of course they can be. But if you really value the Republic, you’ll follow the Republic’s precepts for how to deal with that.
Of course you might at some point decide the Republic is lost. That can certainly also be true. However, at that point you are fighting for principles, not the Republic.
In any case, every respectable leader in our country’s history, and indeed world history, understands that war should be an absolute last resort when all other options—including just bearing some injustices with patience, isolating yourself, and simply moving away—are exhausted.
I teach my children right from wrong and to love God and their neighbor. I moved away from a problem area into a rural, conservative area where we can avoid most day to day interaction with the pagans. But I am not about to go into my liberal coworker’s space and slit his throat because he stupidly thinks the police are racists.
We won in 2016. We probably won in 2020. We will win again. Worse than this has happened in history, and what do you know, Trump came of it. You don’t know the future, brother. Our best days may well be ahead of us.
Obviously. But we have to be willing to risk our own lives to accomplish this. They aren't going to just die on their own.
I took that oath 30+ years ago. it was for ever.. so, I'm having a hard time seeing your point.
Only God has that power. Prayer is the good next step for you.
But you aren't the one who is prophesized to judge the living and the dead.
Judge? ha. take them all out, and net God judge them.
“There is a time for peace and a time for war...”
Methinks you haven’t spent enough time reading the Bible.
God hates cowards.
Scripture citation, please.
it's on the first page
I really have a hard time with people dumping everything on God's plate.
If God gave you a healthy baby, YOU feed it and nourish it and teach it and love.
If God gives you a bunch of commie fucks trying to ruin your country, YOU fucking fix it.
And at the same time, I should say that Jesus was most certainly a man of peace and while civil disobedience may soon be in order, there is no need for killing. Not now.
"God doesn't make the world this way, we do." - Rorschach
No you need to read it with an open mind and stop lumping the Old and New Testaments together. Jesus was a rebel against the OT. Instead of "eye for an eye" he said to turn the other cheek. Instead of talking about sins, he talked about love. Instead of making God a thing to fear, he said "the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand".
And that 10:34 quote is not literal. "Jesus’ followers are peacemaker-evangelists who speak the blessing of peace on families where they stay. Nevertheless, response to the message of the Kingdom will be mixed: some will accept the message and others will reject it. Because of this, families will be divided, conflict will ensue. Thus, in the sword passage Jesus reminds his followers of his supreme worth and the need to follow him regardless of the negative fallout."
That's one interpretation I quickly found. I'm no Biblical Scholar. But I can tell you there is a lot that has been altered and translated back and forth and to take anything 100% literally is silly. Read it all and understand best you can and get a feeling for what Jesus was on about. It certainly was not violence.
You're thinking only materially. While families may still be getting fed, children are being raised to accept and embrace degeneracy. While they're still living in their homes, the average age a child discovers pornography is 10-11. While stores are open, churches are locked. While the parents may have jobs, the children are indoctrinated to become selfish, Godless individuals at public schools, with a future of hedonism and addiction.
If people were starving and homeless, yet remained virtuous and hopeful in God, it would be better than it is now, where people are fed, live well, but have lost their soul.
Meanwhile, babies continue to be slaughtered in the wombs of their own mothers, teenagers and young children are permanently harming their bodies irreversibly with hormones, and in some cases lopping off their own genitals. Women are forfeiting their potential motherhood in favor of working pointless jobs, men are sacrificing their potential fatherhood for video games and pornography. The list goes on...
While people may be fed and living comfortably, the majority are miserable. We've sacrificed everything good for the sake of convenience, tricked into slaving away for the very people who wish to destroy our long term happiness for the sake of money and power.
I agree that all of what you said is happening. But it was also happening in Rome. And in Rome, Christ’s disciples preached the gospel, not the war drum.
There is a time for war. Juda Maccabee comes to mind. But you need to be at the point where there is positively no other means of peaceable redress. I honestly don’t think we’re there. Not yet.
I should clarify that the threshold for giving your own life must be lower than for taking someone else’s.
But some people aren't eating. Some people are losing their homes, and who gave you the right to judge others as to what is bearable or not?
This type of audacious hypocrisy is the laughable.
The loyalty of people here is not to the Republicans, it's to the Republic.
No, it’s to their own egos. If the Supreme Court has issued a ruling, that is the Republic issuing a ruling. Now they may be wrong. Of course they can be. But if you really value the Republic, you’ll follow the Republic’s precepts for how to deal with that.
Of course you might at some point decide the Republic is lost. That can certainly also be true. However, at that point you are fighting for principles, not the Republic.
In any case, every respectable leader in our country’s history, and indeed world history, understands that war should be an absolute last resort when all other options—including just bearing some injustices with patience, isolating yourself, and simply moving away—are exhausted.
I teach my children right from wrong and to love God and their neighbor. I moved away from a problem area into a rural, conservative area where we can avoid most day to day interaction with the pagans. But I am not about to go into my liberal coworker’s space and slit his throat because he stupidly thinks the police are racists.
We won in 2016. We probably won in 2020. We will win again. Worse than this has happened in history, and what do you know, Trump came of it. You don’t know the future, brother. Our best days may well be ahead of us.