Hate to break it to you, but china already controls a lot of territory/states. Secession is separating the chaff from the wheat and allows us to see just how much territory we have to reclaim.
It also allows states to use force to protect their borders, instead of being beholden to a communist federal government that refuses to protect our borders at all.
It also means that states can sally out of their territory and take over other states' territory by force.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
You are way overestimating their power, and way underestimating ours. Leftists are suicidal depressed shit bitches who have been dragging us down, with them gone the Red states would be 10x more powerful and willing and capably of fighting wars. This extends down to the personal morale of all the people but also to decisions on government spending and taxation and economic policy
They're not magic. You are way overestimating their military power. The further they expand the thinner they stretch. They're doing better economically than they used to but they're still hardly even a moderately wealthy country.
A bigger issue would be the long game, and how the countries advance longer term
Also, I don't necessarily buy what you're saying. Even Blue state people wouldn't necessarily allow China to build military bases in their states. Blue state politicians are selling our country to China- for kickbacks. They're selling influence. They might not be so stupid as to give up actual hegemony within their states
No fuck you, the real America SHOULD secede so those states can protect their borders with force and not be under the thumb of a communist federal government.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, INDIVISIBLE, with liberty and justice for all
Because it's the least authoritarian way of getting out of this shitty predicament we're in and people who actually value individual liberty STILL don't like the idea of overthrowing a government when we can just take our values to some physical location that would uphold them. It's completely understandable that people are losing faith in the ability to salvage this government.
I think this too. Why the hell would we give up 1 single inch of American soil? China would like nothing better than to see us split and access to the natural resources in our country split. And if we secede & hand over part of it to the liberals so they leave us alone, they WONT leave us alone. They will just invite China with no obstacles to take over “their” country. Then we have the fuckers right next door. Do. Not. Give. An inch.
That's not quite how it will work. China would see the US demoralized and fighting internal problems, so they would quickly move to establish themselves as the sole hegemonic power in the world. The new silk road as they claim.
A fractured US would essentially become another Europe.
People need to learn that at are in fact an empire. Yes we are stronger together, if we are on the same team, but this past year has been hell for those of us in blue states and that's going to become the whole country soon, a split up is much preferable to Biden being president of the whole American empire
If Texas chooses to leave, they should be allowed to and I do 100% understand why Texas would want to, they have to protect the Texan people. However, I fear that China will pick each of us off, one by one. Until a handful of states will remain, facing off against the CCP. If Trump wins this with us backing him up, as he absolutely should, states like Texas need to have far more say in our Federal government.
That is not smart long term strategy. Consolidate what we do have(via secession), and move on them afterwards, all the while supporting American actions in the blue states.
This shit isn't even close to over. One set back and people stop paying attention to the massive snow ball.
Anyone who thinks the state challenge was the end all be all is over eager. That was a bell that can't be unrung and the snowball is just getting bigger.
First, there is technically no damage to a party/candidate until after electors, second the lawsuit just needs to be refiled a different way, third it wasn't even the most important lawsuit.
I dont larp and I dont even use cliches like hold the line.
Just wait. Look how fast shit is happening and there is 5 weeks left.
If at that point we are still lacking then we take it upon ourselves. Right now we need head counts in the streets, protests the same size as our rallies.
There are three choices: 1. Surrender and wait, like the last 30 years. 2. Fight back. This will get you and your family in trouble. 3. Secede. Leaving the fake votes, the crime. You can't blame people for liking 3. most.
Well then join a militia already you shit talking MFer and DO something with us for our country. It is WAR or SECESSION, or BOTH. Don't you understand?
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, INDIVISIBLE, with liberty and justice for all
Hate to break it to you, but china already controls a lot of territory/states. Secession is separating the chaff from the wheat and allows us to see just how much territory we have to reclaim.
It also allows states to use force to protect their borders, instead of being beholden to a communist federal government that refuses to protect our borders at all.
It also means that states can sally out of their territory and take over other states' territory by force.
Secession is a great option.
Bingo
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
You are way overestimating their power, and way underestimating ours. Leftists are suicidal depressed shit bitches who have been dragging us down, with them gone the Red states would be 10x more powerful and willing and capably of fighting wars. This extends down to the personal morale of all the people but also to decisions on government spending and taxation and economic policy
They're not magic. You are way overestimating their military power. The further they expand the thinner they stretch. They're doing better economically than they used to but they're still hardly even a moderately wealthy country.
A bigger issue would be the long game, and how the countries advance longer term
Also, I don't necessarily buy what you're saying. Even Blue state people wouldn't necessarily allow China to build military bases in their states. Blue state politicians are selling our country to China- for kickbacks. They're selling influence. They might not be so stupid as to give up actual hegemony within their states
No fuck you, the real America SHOULD secede so those states can protect their borders with force and not be under the thumb of a communist federal government.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, INDIVISIBLE, with liberty and justice for all
Because it's the least authoritarian way of getting out of this shitty predicament we're in and people who actually value individual liberty STILL don't like the idea of overthrowing a government when we can just take our values to some physical location that would uphold them. It's completely understandable that people are losing faith in the ability to salvage this government.
Exactly. But more from a practical standpoint. Why fight a brutal, bloody civil war if you don't have to?
I think this too. Why the hell would we give up 1 single inch of American soil? China would like nothing better than to see us split and access to the natural resources in our country split. And if we secede & hand over part of it to the liberals so they leave us alone, they WONT leave us alone. They will just invite China with no obstacles to take over “their” country. Then we have the fuckers right next door. Do. Not. Give. An inch.
That's not quite how it will work. China would see the US demoralized and fighting internal problems, so they would quickly move to establish themselves as the sole hegemonic power in the world. The new silk road as they claim.
A fractured US would essentially become another Europe.
People need to learn that at are in fact an empire. Yes we are stronger together, if we are on the same team, but this past year has been hell for those of us in blue states and that's going to become the whole country soon, a split up is much preferable to Biden being president of the whole American empire
Harris being president you mean
If Texas chooses to leave, they should be allowed to and I do 100% understand why Texas would want to, they have to protect the Texan people. However, I fear that China will pick each of us off, one by one. Until a handful of states will remain, facing off against the CCP. If Trump wins this with us backing him up, as he absolutely should, states like Texas need to have far more say in our Federal government.
We already did with the Hart-Cellar act (if not earlier). The horse ran out of the barn sixty years ago. It is too late to slam the barn door shut.
That is not smart long term strategy. Consolidate what we do have(via secession), and move on them afterwards, all the while supporting American actions in the blue states.
This shit isn't even close to over. One set back and people stop paying attention to the massive snow ball. Anyone who thinks the state challenge was the end all be all is over eager. That was a bell that can't be unrung and the snowball is just getting bigger.
First, there is technically no damage to a party/candidate until after electors, second the lawsuit just needs to be refiled a different way, third it wasn't even the most important lawsuit.
I dont larp and I dont even use cliches like hold the line. Just wait. Look how fast shit is happening and there is 5 weeks left. If at that point we are still lacking then we take it upon ourselves. Right now we need head counts in the streets, protests the same size as our rallies.
There are three choices: 1. Surrender and wait, like the last 30 years. 2. Fight back. This will get you and your family in trouble. 3. Secede. Leaving the fake votes, the crime. You can't blame people for liking 3. most.
FACT!
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Well then join a militia already you shit talking MFer and DO something with us for our country. It is WAR or SECESSION, or BOTH. Don't you understand?
Remember we aren’t stuck in this union with them. They are in this union with us. And we have spoken.
It's not our country.
It's already been bought, sold, and paid for.
This is our country. Not the CCP's. Listen to Trump and trust in God. Be prepared.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, INDIVISIBLE, with liberty and justice for all
Lots of political and military geniuses around here totally ready to just give up ports of entry to China.
Thank god, someone finally said this! This 'secession' nonsense sounded like a total foreign disinfo op from the start.