Hopefully nobody dooms over this ruling. It's apparent from the get go this is one of those "we have to present this so we can move up the totem pole" cases .
I think the Supreme Court has made up their mind. I don’t have high hopes for a reversal . Jail time for those who orchestrated the fraud would be nice though.
The court system is so insanely stupid with the standing position for this. Sue early?? "Well, there's no victim yet so too bad." Sue later?? "Well, why didn't you make a fuss before??? While this seems like a potential breach of election security we're not going to reverse an election because of this" Sue as an indirect party? "tHe eLeCtIoN dIsPuTe dIdN't iNvoLvE yOu"... but the outcome does you dimwits! But of course, "yOuRe nOt aN iNjuReD pArTy"
I get why those may exist in other circumstances, but holy shit... not in elections where time is essential. And courts fucking know this, it's why restraining orders can be obtained even if there is yet to be a criminal action and a victim.
There is nothing to move up to anymore. The Supreme Court ruled that no one has standing to challenge fraud at the state level. States are allowed to run themselves however they want. The SCOTUS redefined states rights.
Apparently you haven't been paying attention. They threw the most important case in American history out on the idea of "standing" that has barely been around for 100 years. They spoke VOLUMES last night. If a State doesn't have standing to challenge another state canceling their vote on the basis of the electoral clause then no one does.
The precedent was set that they won't be taking election fraud cases because states don't have standing to protect their electoral votes against fraud.
You're free to doom all you want, but no need to lie. No such precedent was set. The rejection they made yesterday doesn't set precedent. It doesn't tell us what they believe regarding fraud, or how they will treat the other cases from other plaintiffs.
Hopefully nobody dooms over this ruling. It's apparent from the get go this is one of those "we have to present this so we can move up the totem pole" cases .
I think the Supreme Court has made up their mind. I don’t have high hopes for a reversal . Jail time for those who orchestrated the fraud would be nice though.
The court system is so insanely stupid with the standing position for this. Sue early?? "Well, there's no victim yet so too bad." Sue later?? "Well, why didn't you make a fuss before??? While this seems like a potential breach of election security we're not going to reverse an election because of this" Sue as an indirect party? "tHe eLeCtIoN dIsPuTe dIdN't iNvoLvE yOu"... but the outcome does you dimwits! But of course, "yOuRe nOt aN iNjuReD pArTy"
I get why those may exist in other circumstances, but holy shit... not in elections where time is essential. And courts fucking know this, it's why restraining orders can be obtained even if there is yet to be a criminal action and a victim.
There is nothing to move up to anymore. The Supreme Court ruled that no one has standing to challenge fraud at the state level. States are allowed to run themselves however they want. The SCOTUS redefined states rights.
That's not what SCOTUS said.
Apparently you haven't been paying attention. They threw the most important case in American history out on the idea of "standing" that has barely been around for 100 years. They spoke VOLUMES last night. If a State doesn't have standing to challenge another state canceling their vote on the basis of the electoral clause then no one does.
SCOTUS did not say no one has standing. Fake news!
Nope. No ruling was made nor precedent set.
The precedent was set that they won't be taking election fraud cases because states don't have standing to protect their electoral votes against fraud.
You're free to doom all you want, but no need to lie. No such precedent was set. The rejection they made yesterday doesn't set precedent. It doesn't tell us what they believe regarding fraud, or how they will treat the other cases from other plaintiffs.