No, they aren’t because fuck identity politics. We are Americans and traitors must be handled accordingly. As if the white liberals in Europe give two shits about the needs and desires of rural white Americans. Stalin was white, is anyone here going to stand for the mother fucker? No, because skin color is a pretty arbitrary and unnecessarily devise thing.
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Downvote and run, you fucking cowards. Most Americans see through your pansy ass infiltration and subversion tactics. Get fucked by an oiled up pike.
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A significant portion of these replies are perfect examples of bad actors. Those people aren’t in it for America, they are in it for white people. No single race shares the same values across the board, white people founded America and also caused Communism. On these grounds, dismiss any call to unite with others on the basis that you look the same. Identity political is not the tool of the rational man, of the person who thinks for themselves. It is the tool of collectivists, who tell you to turn off your brain and to not think too hard.
If you buy into collectivism, you’re not a true American. Those of us who say they support individualism and then turn right around to spread a pallet swapped version of Left leaning ideology are the enemy. Those people can burn in a fucking pit because, skin tone similarities or not, we don’t share the same values. These are either the idiots that have lead too many to consider the Left a viable option or they are the Leftists themselves, here to shit post and make us look as irrational and unappetizing as possible. Say No to bad actors and ignore bad faith arguments.
Even when undercover, the Left can not hide how the think.
The other groups will support and defend their own, even at the expense of outsiders.
We all know this man but this is something we need to stay fighting, not encouraging. We already get smeared as hypocrites enough as it is, let alone racists. I’m not afraid to be called racist, I legitimately laugh my ass off because the term has degraded into the new age of table flips. Calling people racist without substantial evidence of racial prejudice is the equivalent to not having an argument. Once we implement identity politics, they will have actual evidence of real racism and not that power no prejudice shit they struggle to peddle to anyone with a brain. That kind of a step would set us back so far that we could kiss our asses goodbye unless the DNC did something so outrageous to unite us with The Left’s pawns. Not likely, I know, but the world is often a strange place with even stranger occurrences.
Whites are not allowed to do this. We are not okay with this.
I can see being upset over double standards but do not sink to The Left’s standards. Do not strive to be like them when you are already better than them. The hate our nation, our history and our accomplishments because it is something they can never replicate. That is why the try their damndest to demonize it and demoralize our people, so they can slither in like venom and perform yet another coup. Losers of the highest caliber who run every country the dominate into the ground.
My grandmother had a saying that I believe is really apt for The Left. Never wrestle with a pig because, in the end, you both end up dirty and the pig likes it.
The whole point of the MAGA movement is to increase wealth and opportunities for everyone. Every community did better under Trump. Conservatives are trying to remove things like Affirmative Action and diversity hiring. What are you talking about dude? You sound angry as all hell because minorities are helping to fight for the rights of your offspring.
When did I claim I was okay with "everyone else getting preferential treatment"?
If anything, you're okay with it because by not practicing any skepticism over claims of race, you willing become accomplices in the implementation of race-based discriminatory measures like affirmative action.
Im so sick of your retarded "all or nothing arguments".
"It doesn't matter if 95% of a race conforms to a stereotype - that 5% that somewhat deviates means that the other 95% isn't anything like what you say, RACIST!"
Please learn the meaning of the word "average", and its importance in reasoning, or else I'm going to consider you a leftist when the war pops off given your mental illness.
What are you going to do? Oh right, you'll pussy out and do nothing. All talk no walk.
When did I say you were racist? How about you please learn the meaning of the word "average" and its importance in reasoning? I can make a random statistical analysis and determine an average, but I can't then apply group statistics to individuals without first observing said individuals.
Even then, you're applying a demographic label to certain groups based on nothing but the word of either the person themselves or the word of someone else (be it your own word or that of a third party). Since neither of those can be backed up by objective evidence, they are equally worthless.
You aren't going to "pop off" on anyone. The only one suffering mental illness here is you, based on your lack of critical thinking skills.
Right? It's strange it's popping out of nowhere. In all my time on tdw, I haven't seen these types of posts except maybe one or two here and there, but I don't recall a time in which they were this numerous.
My guess is that the left is now trying to smear us by hiring the most obvious trolls over. MAGA has never been about race, nor gender. It has always been about America.
To the leftoid cucks here trying to smear our movement, go fuck yourselves. We're fighting against the identity politics bullshit you're spewing, defending the principles MLK fought for. I'm sure he's spinning in his grave as we speak.
I don't think people should be flipping out about the mentioning of white identity, but identity politics is a dead end road at the least. I understand the obvious logic that if it's being used against us, we have no choice but to wield it in defense, and yes, most white people are so mentally stunted by the PC mechanism that they'll just capitulate and let the left run over them, and yes, that's being knowingly manipulated by the left. But unfortunately, it will still not lead to anything but intractable political chaos. I really do get what you guys are saying here, but I don't see how this wins anything that we can actually stand on as a nation.
These cuckservative faggots are terrible. they love talking about Based blacks and everyone else except whites. They are the problem with the MGA movement. Everybody plays to identity; the identity is either fixed or void.
Trump doesn't believe that, or we wouldn't have been hearing about black unemployment for years now. Or hispanic unemployment. Or about women on the moon.
So stop giving me that crap, because it seems like you only are upset about white identity.
You are a globalist. You want people not to identify with their heritage and identify under universal banners which would delegitimize the American nation. Nation means people of common heritage and America is a western nation.
Agree. How can these people claim to be Trump supporters? They're just hijacking TDW to spew hatred, it really makes us look great, doesn't it? That's the Left's specialty, and if they're not actually paid shills, then they're doing the Left's work for free, which is just pathetic. Talk about useful idiots.
I think it's great to talk about issues regarding the conservative white community. The problem arises when the same people bringing up these issues start saying things like "they're subhuman", "we should be allowed to enslave them", "you were better enslaved under us than free", "we should just kill/bomb them". Since joining TheDonald a week ago, I've personally read at least a few dozen highly racist comments, and I can guarantee you they're all coming from 4chan or are shills.
most of the subhuman comments are either trolls or shills, i've talked to people who do put race first and they're white, but they just want to be left alone and not become a minority in a country their ancestors built.
And I agree and wholeheartedly fight for that right. I don't want uncontrolled immigration here either. I can see how the left demonizes whites. It's not right. The shills/trolls/actual racists are few but i don't see mods taking aggressive action against them. Either way, I ignore them and fight for this country and the constitution. I've met an overwhelming majority of people in the MAGA movement who don't look at the color of my skin but look at the color of my blood - red, white, and blue.
The site has grown exponentially. Give the mods a break. Hopefully their recruitment effort will relieve the amount of work they each have in order to keep obvious comments from shills removed.
And they're making us look really bad. Talk about stereotypes, these people give the Left the fuel they want so they can label ALL of us as "white supremacists."
Do these people ever consider that this is a site for Trump supporters, and what they're saying is disrespectful to Trump, since they're implying he's just another identity politician coddling minorities? (And the anti-Semitism is a personal insult to him, because it insults members of his own family. If he browses the Donald, what do you suppose he thinks?)
So what are they even doing here? The Rules sidebar says "Trump Supporters" and "No Racism." I guess it's up to the Mods to decide whether these people belong here, given they're breaking two of the "terms of service," including No. 1.
I agree that Affirmative Action has been a disaster. Even Ginsburg (may she rot in Hell, and NOT because she's Jewish) admitted AA was prejudicial, but claimed it was necessary to right past inequities. So when does the time come when somebody officially announces those inequities have been righted, and AA is officially abolished? Answer: Never, if the race-baiters and identity politicians can help it. It's their weapon and their bread-and-butter, it's how they keep their brainwashed voter base, white, black, Hispanic, you name it. Which explains why Obama revived the corpse of the 60s: to stir up that good old divisive shit, replenish the race card. Otherwise, given that there is no racism to speak of anymore, how are the Dems going to keep blacks on the plantation? May HE rot in Hell.
Being an American is a cultural value. It means loving liberty, standing up for the rights of others, and resisting against government oppression.
There is nothing American about the white European socialists who sold out their nations.
There is something American about the black soldier who died for their nation, the Asian shopowner who votes straight Republican, flies the American flag, and immigrated here for a better life and assimilated. And there is something American about the white rural farmer, whose ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War.
White people don’t call themselves Native American and then shit on Native Americans. Jews call themselves white and then shit on whites because they think they look like good self-reflecting whites.
The only whites who call themselves native Americans are the ones who have part ancestry or the ones who want the gibs.they do this because of the white guilt pushed into society.
There are plenty of all races and religions who MAGA. If you piss off and alienate your allies, then you’re a stupid fucker. Trump doesn’t do that. He looks for more allies anywhere he can find them, because he knows how to succeed.
Do they? Seems more like white people pretend to be Jewish when it suits them, especially since the incentive is much greater than the other way around.
"Oh you don't like what I say? You must be antisemitic. See my last name? See my Wikipedia early life section? If I say I'm Jewish, that must mean I am Jewish!"
No, the "absolutely most retarded thing" you've ever seen would be your image in the mirror.
Let me spell it out for you:
There is no advantage to identifying as white in modern Western nations. Therefore, it is advantageous for leftist whites to identify as having minority heritage. We already have examples of this.
Most leftists will not scrutinize these claims, as they've cultivated a "listen and believe" mentality among themselves (see transgenders and false rape accusations). Morons like you fall right into this because you likewise do not apply an ounce of scrutiny whatsoever and thus become their willing accomplices.
There are people in this thread using intentionally divisive slurs. They are not calling out objective facts, like you are. People should simply call out the facts, while leaving out the division.
Generalizing is what the collective Left and identity politics do. I agree that these stats could be relevant to counter the BLM BS race baiting narrative.
But in general it is far better to judge people as individuals on their own merit than on a perception of people who look like them!
That's not generalizing fucknut, that's using statistics to form an opinion...generalizing is saying things like, all white men are rapists because a single white man raped someone. Saying that MOST blacks are criminals because something like half of them are going to go to prison at some point in their lives isn't generalizing, that's a simple fact...just a fact that butthurts you.
“But in general it is far better to judge people as individuals on their own merit than on a perception of people who look like them!”
Of course, and the fact that you actually typed that out is fucking retarded IMHO. The reality is that this isn’t possible until you know someone intimately, and what their true intentions are. Of course this is not possible for anyone to accomplish who ventures out and participates in normal society. You just run across way too many strangers throughout normal everyday life, and to ignore your basic survival instincts such as pattern recognition at the possible detriment of you and your loved ones in order to stay within the confines, and rule set of our PC “masters” is fucking bullshit and dangerous. The easiest, and quickest way to get a feel for how big of a threat a stranger may be to you, is what they look like, and how they present themselves. This includes many obvious things such as race/ethnicity, sex, age, physical size(height and weight) body movement/language, and how they choose to dress.
Yes bc OP didn’t say anything about white identity. Of course white people deserve identity, freedom, pursuit of happiness, etc. But in replying to OP that OPs comments are somehow robbing white people of identity is puzzling
So the same pain you feel regarding that, everyone feels. The same way ure easily triggered, other people have their own triggers. W/o the divisive marching orders from the tops, maybe the real, non-sheep of the country can actually get along together. MAGA is proof it’s possible
Huh, no matter the format, these are useless I think. Unless it's a "grassroots" like effort of real people discussing what's on their mind.
Also, do you really think there are of 'em here? I doubt they are even aware of TD.win. From what I've seen of the troll factories in action, they usually frequent mainstream news site comment sections, and social media such as cuckbook, twatter, instathot. This shit is transparent to anyone critical of the media, so if that shit even works, it works only on low info normies.
Don't know about being fragile, but Israel did have to (and still has) to fight the fake news media regarding the Israeli-palestinian conflict.
Whatever lies and misinformation the press is using to portray GEOTUS in a negative light aka "Orange man bad", they had many years of practice doing it to Israel. Doesn't come to me as a surprise that some folks (it says on Wikipedia that it's a grassroots effort, not actual IDF, or government) would try to turn the tide of the information war. After all, twatter and the like allow terrorist organizations like HAMAS or HEZBOLLAH or the ISLAMIC JIHAD to have their accounts and they are not facing any censorship in the lies that they are spreading.
Exactly. Uss liberty, lavone affair, everytime I see a white person say something negative about america just do an early life check and low and behold.
These type of threads are posted every single night, it's definitely virtue signaling. Like everyone needs a nightly reminder that we do in fact love minorities and shit. Ok, we get it, but these threads are cringe. It feels like we're at a 2010 Dem convention with all the pandering and "kumbaya"
Considering the type of vile shit that gets posted here and upvoted from time to time, it's needed. I'm not talking about the left's definition of "racism" but legitimately hateful shit against non-white people and Nazi apologia. These trailer trash inbreds need to be reminded that the Trump movement extends far beyond people who look like them and that this isn't stormfront or pol. This isn't the place for them.
Not really, unless you're claiming that only white people fit those descriptors. That's pretty mild compared to some of the other shit that gets posted here. Unlike the people who post racist shit against other groups, I'm not broadbrushing all white people in this manner just them. I chose those words precisely to elicit a reaction from them.
This place turns anti-white when you don’t expect.he wants to be against racism without realizing that there is nothing like racism and trying to be anti-racist sometimes leads to snti-white sentiment.
My MAGA/conservative crew here in southern California looking dark as fuck. It's me two other white guys(one is 1/2 Jewish), a half dozen Mexican American veterans, and a bunch of Filipinos. Caring about your family, your country, and your god is something that transcends color.
Thats really what delineates MAGA vs non MAGA: American values. Do you hold certain things sacred like morality and the constitution? Or can all this shit just be stomped upon because “my feelings” and “systemic oppression”?
The folks who downvoted you should be deported from TDW. I'm sick of the racist shills. The racist assholes have only shown up to pretend they are us because we've become a force to recon with.
I really have a gut feeling that God himself does not want me to feel this way, so I hesitate to even share my thoughts on it. But frankly, haven't the results of multi-culturalism been made clear as day by now? I don't hate anyone or think I'm better than anyone, but good fences make good neighbors. That's all I'm saying. It's not about hate.
Multiculturalism always leads to societal crumbling. Look at the fall of rome, the fall of persia, the fall of every chinese dynasty. Look at the fall of europe thats been happening for 100 years in a slow burn.
I have nothing against legal immigrants, but for gods sake assimilate and embrace the epicness that is america. You left the old country, so learn the new country’s language. Don’t let old traditions come in the way of flourishing in one’s new future.
I think back to high school. You had the black table, the spanish table, etc. I think it's just natural for people to divide themselves up by color. So if we allow so many immigrants here and they all group up, you are naturally going to see them not embracing our culture but keeping their own. That's my thing. I don't have something against someone for being a different color. But I think naturally it leads to some toxic results. And it's a huge target on your back for the elites to target. Such an easy way to divide and conquer us, through color.
The fall of Rome was because Romans got fat and lazy and over-extended themselves forcing them to outsource their military to Germanic tribes. Essentially giving the gates of their city to their enemies.
Similar problem with Persia, they overextended themselves militarily and financially with their invasion of Greece.
As far as the fall of the Chinese dynasties, each was different, but the last Chinese Dynasty, the Qing Dynasty, was composed of foreigners from Mongolia, who invaded and subjugated the Hahn majority
Yup you are correct. In terms of both Persia and Rome, they extended very far and had all these provinces/governances (ie people with radically different cultural backgrounds and patriotic loyalties). As a result, both Rome and Persia failed to create an assimilated Roman/Persian "national" (i know they were empires, but I think the word still fits) identity throughout their empire. This means lack of cohesion in government and military which eventually led to both being wide open to attack. In the case of rome overwhelmingly outsourcing their military to germanic tribes, I believe that only reinforced the lack of national identity and cohesion across the Roman empire.
Well, when you subjugate people by force, there is no reason to expect those who they subjugate to welcome their rule. Rome wasn't the heroes many depict them as being. it was a militaristic oppressive Empire.
By most accounts, they did not have the most advanced civilization either. Carthage appears to have been more advanced than Rome. But they were destroyed when Rome caught them off-guard and Hannibal, with a majority of their army, was off in Spain when Rome attacked.
Ya I'm not dispooooting any of that haha. I am simply saying that multiculturalism does not benefit national cohesion -- in fact it makes a nation more vulnerable to chaos and invasion.
What is your takeaway from the Towel of Babel? Is it that God would rather people separated by culture? It seems to clash with other areas of the Bible. This troubles me as it's an area I have difficulty mending my political and religious views.
Well multiple cultures can coexist when you have a common set of binding principles and mores. All one needs is a love for this country and things generally go well. When you give people shit, tell them they are victims, and mass import unskilled people, you end up with pockets of shit that feel entitled. You have to want to be American, not just be in America. It's all about where your heart is.
Based. The black American who gave up his life to die for his nation is 10,000 times the American as a white European socialist or a bleach white Antifa soyboy.
It's not about skin color or ethnicity. It's about your values, identity, and morals.
This is the same reasoning that made the RNC give money to Candace Owens even when a blind man would tell you that BLEIT would not succeed. There are great Blacks but the black population leaders and culture is mostly leftist culture or leads to big government.
I will agree that the blacks lean more towards the left. But I judge people on an individual basis. Every individual is different, and a different judgement should be made on each.
The most fundamental relationship between groups of humans is based on violence. If it is present, the groups move apart; if it is absent, they work together.
There are countless groups in the United States who have cultures and values that aren't even Western, never mind American, and everyone gets along fine. It doesn't matter if the differences are racial, ethnic, social, cultural, or religious.
Introduce violence into the equation, though, and the dynamic changes instantly. Measures will always be taken by the more peaceful group to preemptively defend itself from the more violent one. In the USA, those social measures have come to be known as "discrimination".
Such a response has existed since Man first walked upright. Survival begins and ends with violence, and no amount of denial, preaching, shaming, bargaining, pleading, or wishful thinking will overcome that biological programming.
In the United States, blacks (regardless of where they were born, or whether they are US citizens) comprise approximately 13.5% of the population, and males between the ages of 15 and 45 approximately 3.5%. More than half of the USA's violent crime is committed by that 3.5%.
If the disproportionate violent crime committed by that group were to suddenly return to the national average, the behavior displayed by the rest of society towards it---unequal treatment, suspicion, hostility, and so forth---would, over time, drop to the same level as for any other group of people living in America who can be identified at a glance or with a word: Chinese, Koreans, Sikhs, Poles, Jews, Irish, Germans, Swedes, Italians, Norwegians, Amish, Mennonites, etc.
That's simply how humans work. Their default is "You leave me alone and I'll leave you alone."
That obvious truth isn't politically popular, though, because a few powerful people who make their living by starting fires and fanning the flames don't want the situation to improve.
In fact, by the 21st century, those outrage profiteers have been so successful that the behavior of the group they exploit---the disproportionate violence that not only must be addressed but must be addressed FIRST---isn't even discussable. In fact, increasingly, the truth of its existence can't even be acknowledged.
I just dont' see how you can say the default position for all humans is "leave me alone." The ideals and principles that led towards the constitution, were not thought of in any other area of the world besides pale white Europe. All the ethnic groups that have come here since have historically voted against those values.
I think we’re mostly in agreement, and I will concede that it definitely isn’t all humans default position. I’ll definitely modify that in my copypasta fren.
I don't want to be right, to be honest. Lol. I think all people are of equal value, nobody deserves to be mistreated due to color, etc. I believe in respecting all people, treating everyone equally. But to me the facts all really point in one direction. If this country becomes minority white, the MAGA movement/American historical values will be dead forever. If this country was supermajority white, we could easily revert to MAGA/American values. It plays out in the voting statistics.
There are some long time posters who post racist shit all the time, especially when a non-white person does anything untoward, completely ignoring all of the non-white patriots of upstanding moral character on our side. They want to turn the MAGA movement into a white nationalist/white supremacy movement, even though it's never been about anything remotely close to that.
I've seen enough to know that that's a bullshit smokescreen they use to hide behind. They travel in the same circles, they use the same hateful rhetoric, spout the same beliefs, they have the same disdain and irrational hatred for non-Europeans. That's a pretty pathetic attempt at gaslighting. They use the term "white nationalist" because it is more palatable. White nationalists aren't about empowering white people but tearing everyone else down. White nationalists would say that there is NO difference between an illegal immigrant and a non-European legal immigrant who has been in this country for decades.
I don’t know why the left always acts like blacks aren’t capable of obtaining photo id, and always acting like they will always be down in the dumps and dependent on them
And acting like they all have to think exactly the same, and can’t have their own individual beliefs like everyone else
We believe they are very capable if succeeding and doing well for themselves and want them to have the freedom to do so
“It’s almost like the CIA knew the crack epidemic would irredeemably fuck up their community. Look at middle America now, China is doing the same shit to us with fentanyl.”
I’m gonna go easy on you, but this is coming off as some borderline woke white simping. Nobody made anyone use and sell drugs to their own commune nye tays. That was a choice. Stop taking the accountability and responsibility off of them. That’s exactly why we’re in the current situation we’re in now IMHO. Also, comparing “middle” America fentanyl to the black crack “epidemic” is all well and good, but you leave out the fact that “middle” America doesn’t and never has committed nearly the amount of violence, and crime including, but definitely not limited to, shooting each other in the streets at rates almost unimaginable.
I use to think like this to, and then I black pilled myself, and came to the realization that blacks have voted for communist leaders, and communists policies at a rate of between 90 and 95% each and every election resulting in whole areas of the country resembling, and functioning like many third world shitholes while dragging the rest of the country down with it. They are their own worst enemy, but continue to blame everyone else.
The hoax of black victimization has also been used, and continues to be used, very effectively I might add, for decades to control, and manipulate large swaths of the country into submission including, but not limited to woke white simps with no backbone. The result is the slow erosion, and destruction of our once great constitutional republic, much less freedom and liberty for all, and parts of the country that are uninhabitable, and no longer salvageable. All of this because diversity is our strength. 😞
Hope you are ready for more of the below, because it’s coming to your neighborhood wether you accept it or not.
I am just one dude, mil vet father fmr fed. Don't talk to anybody. I am no part of an organization. Here is my only social posting. Have no Twitt or FB.. I only call out what I see. JEWS/ISRAEL are not our friends. Boomer Black lovers will not save AMERICA YOU DUMB FUCK. WHITE LAND OWNERS SHOULD VOTE THAT IS IT. NEVER BEEN ON STORM OR WHATEVS. YOU ARE EITHER AMERICAN OR FOR ITS DESTRUCTION. THAT IS IT.
You're more lost than I thought.feel sorry for you. You live in the greatest age of mankind has ever offered. Virtually every book ever written, every philosophy ever conjured, every thought worth committing to paper is available to you on a $100 device. You could learn ANYthing. And you choose to be stuck in this postmodernist identarian politics bullshit. Good luck.
This is really a weak argument. Just because people have their own ability to reason and individual thought, does not mean that some people can not come to the same conclusions, especially when their are only limited possible ideologies in certain areas.
You judge people based on ideologies, because conflicting ideologies will create strife when living under a common government. A government can not be Marxist, and Capitalist at the same time, so their will inherently be conflict among those who have opposing ideologies, as only one can be implemented at the exclusion of the other.
Of course, and the fact that you actually typed that out is fucking retarded IMHO. The reality is that this isn’t possible until you know someone intimately, and what their true intentions are. Of course this is not possible for anyone to accomplish who ventures out, and participates in normal society. You run across way too many strangers throughout normal everyday life. To ignore your basic survival instincts such as pattern recognition at the possible detriment of you, and your loved ones in order to stay within the confines, and rule set of our PC “masters” is fucking bullshit and dangerous. The easiest, and quickest way to get a feel for how big of a threat a stranger may be to you, is what they look like, and how they present themselves. This includes many obvious things such as race/ethnicity, sex, age, physical size(height and weight) body movement/language, and how they choose to dress.
You know we are in trouble when we have to throughly explain what should be common sense to people even on this site. WE FUCKED!!! 😞
That's what started to get me, when you look at who votes for what parties. Constitution and libertarian are almost entirely white. Conservative is large majority white. And then Democrat-America Hating-Communist Party is where everyone else votes. 90% of blacks, 66% of latino, etc. If the country keeps slipping to where whites are the minority, do you guys honestly expect MAGA to keep existing in the future?
Well what I'm suggesting is we have to realize this problem BEFORE that happens. We won't be rounded into concentration camps now, we are still the majority and we still have our guy in office. But if we don't address this problem now, yes, in the future that will be our destiny. I think building the wall is insanely important, but it needs to go further. We need to deport people.
It doesn't .. but only about 3% of faggots are MAGA .. and that's 3% of 1.7% of the population - who, by the way, are unhealthy degenerates. But some of them are ok, I guess.
Makes you wonder where these polls come from. Jews are only 2% of the population. You would think at some point, myself or some other Jew I know would have been polled, there aren't too many of use after all, yet, that never happened
We wonder why MAGA hasnt taken off like it could, then people like you come along and we say "Oh, of course..." you're either a terrible trump supporter, or a pretty good shill.
So...I'm twice as dumb as you are? Interesting. How dumb, exaclty, are you? Do you have some sense of your limited faculties, or is it just something people have told you over the years?
Way to own yourself fagit. Get on back to stormfront.
There is no Jewish leadership. Although there are some prominent Jews wha are funding Marxists, including Soros, Zueckerburg etc.
Strange to blame Jews in general for their actions, when those same "prominent Jews" don't give a damn about other Jews or Judaism. Soros may very well be the biggest anti-semite alive, and the only thing Jewish left to Zuckerberg is his name.
their were plenty of people who blamed Mark Levine's Judaism before he jumped on the Trump Train, but you don't see a whole lot mentioning his religion now that he is on the Trump train. Same with Dave Rubin, and Trump Attorney Ron Coleman
I heard Matt Braynard on Timcast IRL the other night mention that in his research they found the biggest indicator of the cultural divide is postmodernism.
In my opinion, postmodernism is subversive and encourages bad faith actors.
Agree, and I’m not dismissing people’s concerns about all that stuff, there’s validity to some of it. Now isn’t the time for any of that though. You’re either for the President or you’re against him. When the dust settles, then we can address those issues. Until then, there’s two groups. Pro-Trump or Anti-Trump. Everyone has to pick one.
To win this battle we need to come together as one people under GOD. It doesn’t matter who you are, where you come from, or what you look like. I was slightly annoyed today in DC because I try so hard to support the Proud Boys movement, but every time I step on their side, there’s always some idiot holding an Iron Cross flag. As a jewish person who LOVES this country, I can’t stand side by side with that. Everyone should be holding American Flags or MAGA flags, but we shouldn’t be alienating our own.
Theres room in MAGA country even for the non religious. I'm an atheist but I appreciate that our country was founded on CHRISTIAN values and that is what makes a lot of our society so great
How is he a schill? If you ventured into "new", there have been a lot of posts mentioning "jews", etc. And you once had a 5 day old account. That doesn't mean shit.
You think enough people are going to make that distinction? Hitler sure didn't when purging the Communists and global bankers from the Weimar Republic.
Excuse me, fren? Nobody said anything about association here. Rather a warning that not all will act in good faith to MAGA principles if it allows them to act on their hatred.
I am mocking you moron.your first statement shows your naivety about the OP intentions.
The OP is trying to cuck people here to ignore patterns and reality.
Trump got a record number of blacks, hispanics, gays and Jews voting republican in this election. The parties are no longer split by race. The split is by class. The wealthy and poor are Democrats because the wealthy can afford higher taxes and the poor want free stuff. The working class and normal folks are Trumpsters.
Agreed. We don't need racial or religious or any other hate. Our enemy is an ideology. If people choose to fight for that ideology they are our enemies regardless of color or religious belief. If they choose to stand with us, they are our brothers and sisters, period. That is worth more than any gripe you project on them as individuals. Don't be a Leftist and rely on blame and accusation and bitter victim mentality. Be a MAGA Big Dick Pede and stand as an example of courage, confidence and stoicism, with hatred, because you don't need that crutch.
Latinos are great people and I respect them but MAGA is about preserving historical American culture and value system.t is difficult to preserve a culture if the people who founded that culture, don't exist or are in the minority. conservatives don't understand this and the OP makes this kind of post without looking at the big picture.
It doesn't help the cause to advocate being thought police and killing people for their political beliefs
Argue with them, educate them, change their minds. The most ardent anti communists in the USA are Cuban expats who were indoctrinated to believe in communism. it is a yoke that can be thrown off if you try. But it's not going to happen if you tell people that you think they deserve to be murdered because of the way they think
Fuentes always seemed to me like just another trivial loudmouth getting his 15 minutes, but his followers and the cluster of morons who gravitate to this shit are just pathetic. But just like the WN brigades on T_D four+ yrs ago, i also suspect at least 50% of these idiots to be sponsored/paid leftist shills. Either way, its an easy deport.
charlie kirk has done 10 million times more for the maga movement then you or that faggot will ever do in ur life. Turning point is changing the next generation into conservatives . fake "america first" BS will set us back decades. Grow up pussies
lol you gotta be a troll. Charlie Kirk and Turning Point have grifted millions of dollars off of Trump's name and couldn't even be bothered to show up to one of these rallies when it mattered most. They spend more time shilling for Israel and promoting degenerate circus acts like Lady Maga than trying to stop the steal. Nick Fuentes and the groypers have humiliated Charlie at every turn.
These threads are becoming more than a little tedious.
Because whites arent allowed an identity apparently
No, they aren’t because fuck identity politics. We are Americans and traitors must be handled accordingly. As if the white liberals in Europe give two shits about the needs and desires of rural white Americans. Stalin was white, is anyone here going to stand for the mother fucker? No, because skin color is a pretty arbitrary and unnecessarily devise thing.
Edit: Downvote and run, you fucking cowards. Most Americans see through your pansy ass infiltration and subversion tactics. Get fucked by an oiled up pike.
Edit 2: A significant portion of these replies are perfect examples of bad actors. Those people aren’t in it for America, they are in it for white people. No single race shares the same values across the board, white people founded America and also caused Communism. On these grounds, dismiss any call to unite with others on the basis that you look the same. Identity political is not the tool of the rational man, of the person who thinks for themselves. It is the tool of collectivists, who tell you to turn off your brain and to not think too hard.
If you buy into collectivism, you’re not a true American. Those of us who say they support individualism and then turn right around to spread a pallet swapped version of Left leaning ideology are the enemy. Those people can burn in a fucking pit because, skin tone similarities or not, we don’t share the same values. These are either the idiots that have lead too many to consider the Left a viable option or they are the Leftists themselves, here to shit post and make us look as irrational and unappetizing as possible. Say No to bad actors and ignore bad faith arguments.
Even when undercover, the Left can not hide how the think.
Identity politics, like it or not, have been a part of America since the beginning.
The other groups will support and defend their own, even at the expense of outsiders. Whites are not allowed to do this. We are not okay with this.
https://i.imgur.com/brfPMVJ.png
We all know this man but this is something we need to stay fighting, not encouraging. We already get smeared as hypocrites enough as it is, let alone racists. I’m not afraid to be called racist, I legitimately laugh my ass off because the term has degraded into the new age of table flips. Calling people racist without substantial evidence of racial prejudice is the equivalent to not having an argument. Once we implement identity politics, they will have actual evidence of real racism and not that power no prejudice shit they struggle to peddle to anyone with a brain. That kind of a step would set us back so far that we could kiss our asses goodbye unless the DNC did something so outrageous to unite us with The Left’s pawns. Not likely, I know, but the world is often a strange place with even stranger occurrences.
I can see being upset over double standards but do not sink to The Left’s standards. Do not strive to be like them when you are already better than them. The hate our nation, our history and our accomplishments because it is something they can never replicate. That is why the try their damndest to demonize it and demoralize our people, so they can slither in like venom and perform yet another coup. Losers of the highest caliber who run every country the dominate into the ground.
My grandmother had a saying that I believe is really apt for The Left. Never wrestle with a pig because, in the end, you both end up dirty and the pig likes it.
Yet that behavior is not universal among those groups.
The whole point of the MAGA movement is to increase wealth and opportunities for everyone. Every community did better under Trump. Conservatives are trying to remove things like Affirmative Action and diversity hiring. What are you talking about dude? You sound angry as all hell because minorities are helping to fight for the rights of your offspring.
You're retarded.
When did I claim I was okay with "everyone else getting preferential treatment"?
If anything, you're okay with it because by not practicing any skepticism over claims of race, you willing become accomplices in the implementation of race-based discriminatory measures like affirmative action.
Im so sick of your retarded "all or nothing arguments".
"It doesn't matter if 95% of a race conforms to a stereotype - that 5% that somewhat deviates means that the other 95% isn't anything like what you say, RACIST!"
Please learn the meaning of the word "average", and its importance in reasoning, or else I'm going to consider you a leftist when the war pops off given your mental illness.
I don't give a fuck if you're sick or not.
What are you going to do? Oh right, you'll pussy out and do nothing. All talk no walk.
When did I say you were racist? How about you please learn the meaning of the word "average" and its importance in reasoning? I can make a random statistical analysis and determine an average, but I can't then apply group statistics to individuals without first observing said individuals.
Even then, you're applying a demographic label to certain groups based on nothing but the word of either the person themselves or the word of someone else (be it your own word or that of a third party). Since neither of those can be backed up by objective evidence, they are equally worthless.
You aren't going to "pop off" on anyone. The only one suffering mental illness here is you, based on your lack of critical thinking skills.
Life is simple:
"Trump Supporters This is The Donald. Our community is a high-energy Trump rally. There are no exceptions."
GEOTUS wouldnt say these things, and it's not helpful to our cause.
ez pz.
Right? It's strange it's popping out of nowhere. In all my time on tdw, I haven't seen these types of posts except maybe one or two here and there, but I don't recall a time in which they were this numerous.
My guess is that the left is now trying to smear us by hiring the most obvious trolls over. MAGA has never been about race, nor gender. It has always been about America.
To the leftoid cucks here trying to smear our movement, go fuck yourselves. We're fighting against the identity politics bullshit you're spewing, defending the principles MLK fought for. I'm sure he's spinning in his grave as we speak.
They're either getting paid or they're shilling for the Left for free whether they know it or not, and how pathetic is that?
I apologize for these people to all black Pedes here, and I know there are lots of you, and to all other minority Pedes. They don't speak for us.
America First!
They're not black pedes. They're just pedes, fren. :)
Its not the left, its the groypers. the nick F faggots who think there tough shit but are all little bitches.
To paraphrase your argument: groypers, faggots, shit, bitches. Sophisticated stuff.
So how are you any different from the left, dumbass?
Trump gets to bang on about everything he did for blacks, hispanics, women, but the moment someone brings up white identity you flip out. Hypocrites.
I don't think people should be flipping out about the mentioning of white identity, but identity politics is a dead end road at the least. I understand the obvious logic that if it's being used against us, we have no choice but to wield it in defense, and yes, most white people are so mentally stunted by the PC mechanism that they'll just capitulate and let the left run over them, and yes, that's being knowingly manipulated by the left. But unfortunately, it will still not lead to anything but intractable political chaos. I really do get what you guys are saying here, but I don't see how this wins anything that we can actually stand on as a nation.
OK. So tell Trump that.
These cuckservative faggots are terrible. they love talking about Based blacks and everyone else except whites. They are the problem with the MGA movement. Everybody plays to identity; the identity is either fixed or void.
A voice of reason!
No identity should matter. People are more than their skin colors. Asian identity, black identity, white identity, who cares.
There's one identity we should care about and its American identity.
Trump doesn't believe that, or we wouldn't have been hearing about black unemployment for years now. Or hispanic unemployment. Or about women on the moon.
So stop giving me that crap, because it seems like you only are upset about white identity.
No one should identify as white, or black, or asian, or other. This isn't only about white identity, this is about black identity, and asian identity.
These identities only serve to divide a great nation. The only identity I care about is the American identity.
You are a globalist. You want people not to identify with their heritage and identify under universal banners which would delegitimize the American nation. Nation means people of common heritage and America is a western nation.
Agree. How can these people claim to be Trump supporters? They're just hijacking TDW to spew hatred, it really makes us look great, doesn't it? That's the Left's specialty, and if they're not actually paid shills, then they're doing the Left's work for free, which is just pathetic. Talk about useful idiots.
I think it's great to talk about issues regarding the conservative white community. The problem arises when the same people bringing up these issues start saying things like "they're subhuman", "we should be allowed to enslave them", "you were better enslaved under us than free", "we should just kill/bomb them". Since joining TheDonald a week ago, I've personally read at least a few dozen highly racist comments, and I can guarantee you they're all coming from 4chan or are shills.
most of the subhuman comments are either trolls or shills, i've talked to people who do put race first and they're white, but they just want to be left alone and not become a minority in a country their ancestors built.
And I agree and wholeheartedly fight for that right. I don't want uncontrolled immigration here either. I can see how the left demonizes whites. It's not right. The shills/trolls/actual racists are few but i don't see mods taking aggressive action against them. Either way, I ignore them and fight for this country and the constitution. I've met an overwhelming majority of people in the MAGA movement who don't look at the color of my skin but look at the color of my blood - red, white, and blue.
The site has grown exponentially. Give the mods a break. Hopefully their recruitment effort will relieve the amount of work they each have in order to keep obvious comments from shills removed.
And they're making us look really bad. Talk about stereotypes, these people give the Left the fuel they want so they can label ALL of us as "white supremacists."
Do these people ever consider that this is a site for Trump supporters, and what they're saying is disrespectful to Trump, since they're implying he's just another identity politician coddling minorities? (And the anti-Semitism is a personal insult to him, because it insults members of his own family. If he browses the Donald, what do you suppose he thinks?)
So what are they even doing here? The Rules sidebar says "Trump Supporters" and "No Racism." I guess it's up to the Mods to decide whether these people belong here, given they're breaking two of the "terms of service," including No. 1.
You have a point. So when are the identity-group-based policies going to stop so we can stop talking about them?
I agree that Affirmative Action has been a disaster. Even Ginsburg (may she rot in Hell, and NOT because she's Jewish) admitted AA was prejudicial, but claimed it was necessary to right past inequities. So when does the time come when somebody officially announces those inequities have been righted, and AA is officially abolished? Answer: Never, if the race-baiters and identity politicians can help it. It's their weapon and their bread-and-butter, it's how they keep their brainwashed voter base, white, black, Hispanic, you name it. Which explains why Obama revived the corpse of the 60s: to stir up that good old divisive shit, replenish the race card. Otherwise, given that there is no racism to speak of anymore, how are the Dems going to keep blacks on the plantation? May HE rot in Hell.
OK. Say that to Trump.
based!!
based.
Being an American is a cultural value. It means loving liberty, standing up for the rights of others, and resisting against government oppression. There is nothing American about the white European socialists who sold out their nations. There is something American about the black soldier who died for their nation, the Asian shopowner who votes straight Republican, flies the American flag, and immigrated here for a better life and assimilated. And there is something American about the white rural farmer, whose ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War.
Well said, Pede!
America is a European nation. Most people need to realize this.
It's on the verge. Trump and his people (including us) are trying to pull us back from the cliff's edge.
Why would he do that? European heritage is America's core culture.
There are a lot of stupid people here on this website based on your upvote/downvote ratio
Stupid people on here? Certainly. Are the ones downvoting me stupid or just plain malicious actors? Who can say.
Can I still be a honkey tho?
"Whites good" - good
"Jews bad" - bad
Not complicated. Unless you're Antifa. Then they need a five page math equation to figure out how many sexes there are.
Except Jewish people always pretend to be white when it suits them.
Hello fellow huh whyte man. 😎
I do not.
I have seen that happen, sure. I've also seen white people call themselves native american.
...
And?
White people don’t call themselves Native American and then shit on Native Americans. Jews call themselves white and then shit on whites because they think they look like good self-reflecting whites.
Some do. They're wrong.
Others don't. They're not wrong.
"Native americans" came from asia when it was connected as a land mass, the oldest bones discovered in America are viking.
The only whites who call themselves native Americans are the ones who have part ancestry or the ones who want the gibs.they do this because of the white guilt pushed into society.
tbh, I don't care as long as they're willing to help us fight the left and commies.
I might care after two threats have been deal with.
Jews are some of the biggest commies.
Weird. I'm part jew and I'm decidedly right wing. Maybe ethnicity and religion have nothing to do with politics. 🤷♂️
'Part Jew'??...yr a fake.
Its like saying yr 'part male'.
Yr either a Jew or you're not.
There are plenty of all races and religions who MAGA. If you piss off and alienate your allies, then you’re a stupid fucker. Trump doesn’t do that. He looks for more allies anywhere he can find them, because he knows how to succeed.
Let's get rid of the commies first.
Whites pretending to be Jews are the biggest commies.
I think you're a dummy pretending to be coherent.
Do they? Seems more like white people pretend to be Jewish when it suits them, especially since the incentive is much greater than the other way around.
"Oh you don't like what I say? You must be antisemitic. See my last name? See my Wikipedia early life section? If I say I'm Jewish, that must mean I am Jewish!"
Retards like you fall for that
Every
Fucking
Time
No, the "absolutely most retarded thing" you've ever seen would be your image in the mirror.
Let me spell it out for you:
There is no advantage to identifying as white in modern Western nations. Therefore, it is advantageous for leftist whites to identify as having minority heritage. We already have examples of this.
Most leftists will not scrutinize these claims, as they've cultivated a "listen and believe" mentality among themselves (see transgenders and false rape accusations). Morons like you fall right into this because you likewise do not apply an ounce of scrutiny whatsoever and thus become their willing accomplices.
even JIDF would laugh at you for saying this.
Only JIDF makes anti-Jew claims anyway.
You forgot the other two:
"Jews good" - good
"Whites bad" - bad
And
"Blacks good" - good
"Asians bad" - bad
We're not allowed to speak the answer without worrying about words like racism or bans.
Some (insert race) people are good. Some (insert race) people are bad.
We don’t punish the good for the things done by the bad.
Now do per capita.
There are people in this thread using intentionally divisive slurs. They are not calling out objective facts, like you are. People should simply call out the facts, while leaving out the division.
Generalizing is what the collective Left and identity politics do. I agree that these stats could be relevant to counter the BLM BS race baiting narrative.
But in general it is far better to judge people as individuals on their own merit than on a perception of people who look like them!
That's not generalizing fucknut, that's using statistics to form an opinion...generalizing is saying things like, all white men are rapists because a single white man raped someone. Saying that MOST blacks are criminals because something like half of them are going to go to prison at some point in their lives isn't generalizing, that's a simple fact...just a fact that butthurts you.
Imagine getting downvoted for saying we should treat everyone as individuals... there are some really stupid people here.
“But in general it is far better to judge people as individuals on their own merit than on a perception of people who look like them!”
Of course, and the fact that you actually typed that out is fucking retarded IMHO. The reality is that this isn’t possible until you know someone intimately, and what their true intentions are. Of course this is not possible for anyone to accomplish who ventures out and participates in normal society. You just run across way too many strangers throughout normal everyday life, and to ignore your basic survival instincts such as pattern recognition at the possible detriment of you and your loved ones in order to stay within the confines, and rule set of our PC “masters” is fucking bullshit and dangerous. The easiest, and quickest way to get a feel for how big of a threat a stranger may be to you, is what they look like, and how they present themselves. This includes many obvious things such as race/ethnicity, sex, age, physical size(height and weight) body movement/language, and how they choose to dress.
The blacks that commit violent crime are bad.
The blacks that do not commit violent crime are not bad.
So in your opinion the white identity is inextricably linked to hating Jews, blacks and gays?
Is that what he fucking said?
Yes bc OP didn’t say anything about white identity. Of course white people deserve identity, freedom, pursuit of happiness, etc. But in replying to OP that OPs comments are somehow robbing white people of identity is puzzling
The OP is the biggest moron on this site.
I'm white and I don't give a FUCK about your identity, crybaby faggot. :D
No one said thing A about white people. They said not to attack others based on completely irrelevant things.
Everyone knows the agenda being played out here, it didnt need to be said. Lets not kid ourselves
So the same pain you feel regarding that, everyone feels. The same way ure easily triggered, other people have their own triggers. W/o the divisive marching orders from the tops, maybe the real, non-sheep of the country can actually get along together. MAGA is proof it’s possible
🤣 you fucking 🤖🧠. This conversation is obviously far too intellectually challenging for you. GOOD LORD!!! 🤦🏼♂️
FUCKING EXACTLY
Most of twitter and fb are AI, im sure theres some here as well. Gets switched on and off pending current political climate
How can one not reasonable extrapolate that a storm flag is suppose to be a wannabe Nazi?
LOL u mad!
At least I'm not a paid shill, shill. Go back to voat for chrissakes.
Jews like you killed voat and want the Donald dead too
What is JIDF?
So a troll factory basically?
Huh, no matter the format, these are useless I think. Unless it's a "grassroots" like effort of real people discussing what's on their mind.
Also, do you really think there are of 'em here? I doubt they are even aware of TD.win. From what I've seen of the troll factories in action, they usually frequent mainstream news site comment sections, and social media such as cuckbook, twatter, instathot. This shit is transparent to anyone critical of the media, so if that shit even works, it works only on low info normies.
Don't know about being fragile, but Israel did have to (and still has) to fight the fake news media regarding the Israeli-palestinian conflict.
Whatever lies and misinformation the press is using to portray GEOTUS in a negative light aka "Orange man bad", they had many years of practice doing it to Israel. Doesn't come to me as a surprise that some folks (it says on Wikipedia that it's a grassroots effort, not actual IDF, or government) would try to turn the tide of the information war. After all, twatter and the like allow terrorist organizations like HAMAS or HEZBOLLAH or the ISLAMIC JIHAD to have their accounts and they are not facing any censorship in the lies that they are spreading.
The rest must not have gotten many upvotes, because this is the only one I see. Looks like the system is working pretty well.
That's fairly strong evidence by itself that it's an organized campaign of idiots. But it really seems to be having little effect, which is good.
Literally anytime someone complains about a certain ethno religion its oh we have to stop this.
Booted out of more than a hundred different countries - often multiple times - throughout history, yet apparently everyone else is the problem.
Exactly. Uss liberty, lavone affair, everytime I see a white person say something negative about america just do an early life check and low and behold.
This is a stupid psy-op going on.
Block this garbage and move on.
Your mom is a psy-op
These type of threads are posted every single night, it's definitely virtue signaling. Like everyone needs a nightly reminder that we do in fact love minorities and shit. Ok, we get it, but these threads are cringe. It feels like we're at a 2010 Dem convention with all the pandering and "kumbaya"
Voat still exists? What's that place like nowadays?
What does jidf mean?
Why the fuck would Jewish advocates go to 4chan? They’re peak cringe and will explicitly do shit to fuck with people.
Juice Internet Defense Force
Says 1 month old account who's on record defending Brownshirts. HELOOOOOOO STORMFAG!
What is JIDF?
Wow you are one sick fuck. Good luck with that.
Great par about a post like this is it makes the shills and wannabes easy to spot. Like you.
Brownshirts fought against and defeated Antifa communists. There were hard choices to be made back then.
Brown shirts later became NAZI's once Hitler came to power
And then he wiped out the Brownshirts.
No, he didn't he gave them a new uniform and SS pins
Why do you act so gay?
The opposite of this thread is sadly more common. It’s just shills creating decisiveness.
Considering the type of vile shit that gets posted here and upvoted from time to time, it's needed. I'm not talking about the left's definition of "racism" but legitimately hateful shit against non-white people and Nazi apologia. These trailer trash inbreds need to be reminded that the Trump movement extends far beyond people who look like them and that this isn't stormfront or pol. This isn't the place for them.
Sounds pretty racist.
Not really, unless you're claiming that only white people fit those descriptors. That's pretty mild compared to some of the other shit that gets posted here. Unlike the people who post racist shit against other groups, I'm not broadbrushing all white people in this manner just them. I chose those words precisely to elicit a reaction from them.
This place turns anti-white when you don’t expect.he wants to be against racism without realizing that there is nothing like racism and trying to be anti-racist sometimes leads to snti-white sentiment.
You think its nonsense to not be racist?
Thank you for making it so easy to spot the retards
You said the OP believes 'nonsense'. OPs post was about not being racist. You therefore think that not being racist is nonsense
hope that helped you out
Antifa is against fascism
You hating Antifa makes you a fascist
See? I can completely ignore nuance too!
The same can be said if it was a freedom loving country, regardless of race or ethnicicty
That is not true. The demography that votes conservative most times are white of all age groups.
🤣 you fucking 🤖🧠. This conversation is obviously far too intellectually challenging for you. GOOD LORD!!! 🤦🏼♂️
said the genius responding with emojis lmao
You don’t need to be white to know that OP is a moron.
Emphasis on shut the fuck up, OP is a fag
My MAGA/conservative crew here in southern California looking dark as fuck. It's me two other white guys(one is 1/2 Jewish), a half dozen Mexican American veterans, and a bunch of Filipinos. Caring about your family, your country, and your god is something that transcends color.
YES
Thats really what delineates MAGA vs non MAGA: American values. Do you hold certain things sacred like morality and the constitution? Or can all this shit just be stomped upon because “my feelings” and “systemic oppression”?
The folks who downvoted you should be deported from TDW. I'm sick of the racist shills. The racist assholes have only shown up to pretend they are us because we've become a force to recon with.
White and proud .
I’m so confused after looking at your username. 🤣
Judging people by the content of their character has become a radical idea for people on the right and the left.
You are just triggered.The people who disagree with OP are telling him that he is very naive for being a universalist.
Based as fuck.
If you think the color of someone's epidermis determines the content of a person's character you need to go outside and interact with people.
God created all of us, and he loves us all equally.
"Here there is no Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all." Colossians 3:11
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave[a] nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3:28
This
I really have a gut feeling that God himself does not want me to feel this way, so I hesitate to even share my thoughts on it. But frankly, haven't the results of multi-culturalism been made clear as day by now? I don't hate anyone or think I'm better than anyone, but good fences make good neighbors. That's all I'm saying. It's not about hate.
Multiculturalism always leads to societal crumbling. Look at the fall of rome, the fall of persia, the fall of every chinese dynasty. Look at the fall of europe thats been happening for 100 years in a slow burn.
I have nothing against legal immigrants, but for gods sake assimilate and embrace the epicness that is america. You left the old country, so learn the new country’s language. Don’t let old traditions come in the way of flourishing in one’s new future.
I think back to high school. You had the black table, the spanish table, etc. I think it's just natural for people to divide themselves up by color. So if we allow so many immigrants here and they all group up, you are naturally going to see them not embracing our culture but keeping their own. That's my thing. I don't have something against someone for being a different color. But I think naturally it leads to some toxic results. And it's a huge target on your back for the elites to target. Such an easy way to divide and conquer us, through color.
Correct
The fall of Rome was because Romans got fat and lazy and over-extended themselves forcing them to outsource their military to Germanic tribes. Essentially giving the gates of their city to their enemies.
Similar problem with Persia, they overextended themselves militarily and financially with their invasion of Greece.
As far as the fall of the Chinese dynasties, each was different, but the last Chinese Dynasty, the Qing Dynasty, was composed of foreigners from Mongolia, who invaded and subjugated the Hahn majority
Yup you are correct. In terms of both Persia and Rome, they extended very far and had all these provinces/governances (ie people with radically different cultural backgrounds and patriotic loyalties). As a result, both Rome and Persia failed to create an assimilated Roman/Persian "national" (i know they were empires, but I think the word still fits) identity throughout their empire. This means lack of cohesion in government and military which eventually led to both being wide open to attack. In the case of rome overwhelmingly outsourcing their military to germanic tribes, I believe that only reinforced the lack of national identity and cohesion across the Roman empire.
Well, when you subjugate people by force, there is no reason to expect those who they subjugate to welcome their rule. Rome wasn't the heroes many depict them as being. it was a militaristic oppressive Empire.
By most accounts, they did not have the most advanced civilization either. Carthage appears to have been more advanced than Rome. But they were destroyed when Rome caught them off-guard and Hannibal, with a majority of their army, was off in Spain when Rome attacked.
But the victors write the history
Ya I'm not dispooooting any of that haha. I am simply saying that multiculturalism does not benefit national cohesion -- in fact it makes a nation more vulnerable to chaos and invasion.
Tower of Babel
What is your takeaway from the Towel of Babel? Is it that God would rather people separated by culture? It seems to clash with other areas of the Bible. This troubles me as it's an area I have difficulty mending my political and religious views.
The idea is that if people get fat and lazy, they will rebel against G-d, so he gave them internal strife
Well multiple cultures can coexist when you have a common set of binding principles and mores. All one needs is a love for this country and things generally go well. When you give people shit, tell them they are victims, and mass import unskilled people, you end up with pockets of shit that feel entitled. You have to want to be American, not just be in America. It's all about where your heart is.
Based. The black American who gave up his life to die for his nation is 10,000 times the American as a white European socialist or a bleach white Antifa soyboy.
It's not about skin color or ethnicity. It's about your values, identity, and morals.
This is the same reasoning that made the RNC give money to Candace Owens even when a blind man would tell you that BLEIT would not succeed. There are great Blacks but the black population leaders and culture is mostly leftist culture or leads to big government.
I will agree that the blacks lean more towards the left. But I judge people on an individual basis. Every individual is different, and a different judgement should be made on each.
The most fundamental relationship between groups of humans is based on violence. If it is present, the groups move apart; if it is absent, they work together. There are countless groups in the United States who have cultures and values that aren't even Western, never mind American, and everyone gets along fine. It doesn't matter if the differences are racial, ethnic, social, cultural, or religious.
Introduce violence into the equation, though, and the dynamic changes instantly. Measures will always be taken by the more peaceful group to preemptively defend itself from the more violent one. In the USA, those social measures have come to be known as "discrimination".
Such a response has existed since Man first walked upright. Survival begins and ends with violence, and no amount of denial, preaching, shaming, bargaining, pleading, or wishful thinking will overcome that biological programming.
In the United States, blacks (regardless of where they were born, or whether they are US citizens) comprise approximately 13.5% of the population, and males between the ages of 15 and 45 approximately 3.5%. More than half of the USA's violent crime is committed by that 3.5%.
If the disproportionate violent crime committed by that group were to suddenly return to the national average, the behavior displayed by the rest of society towards it---unequal treatment, suspicion, hostility, and so forth---would, over time, drop to the same level as for any other group of people living in America who can be identified at a glance or with a word: Chinese, Koreans, Sikhs, Poles, Jews, Irish, Germans, Swedes, Italians, Norwegians, Amish, Mennonites, etc.
That's simply how humans work. Their default is "You leave me alone and I'll leave you alone."
That obvious truth isn't politically popular, though, because a few powerful people who make their living by starting fires and fanning the flames don't want the situation to improve.
In fact, by the 21st century, those outrage profiteers have been so successful that the behavior of the group they exploit---the disproportionate violence that not only must be addressed but must be addressed FIRST---isn't even discussable. In fact, increasingly, the truth of its existence can't even be acknowledged.
I just dont' see how you can say the default position for all humans is "leave me alone." The ideals and principles that led towards the constitution, were not thought of in any other area of the world besides pale white Europe. All the ethnic groups that have come here since have historically voted against those values.
I think we’re mostly in agreement, and I will concede that it definitely isn’t all humans default position. I’ll definitely modify that in my copypasta fren.
I don't want to be right, to be honest. Lol. I think all people are of equal value, nobody deserves to be mistreated due to color, etc. I believe in respecting all people, treating everyone equally. But to me the facts all really point in one direction. If this country becomes minority white, the MAGA movement/American historical values will be dead forever. If this country was supermajority white, we could easily revert to MAGA/American values. It plays out in the voting statistics.
Yup.
I think we have made some very decent gains in all other “groups” this election, America is waking up to everything
When we solve this voter fraud problem and can get an honest, verifiable election, i think we’ll be in good shape
The crack epidemic(Cia?) certainly didn’t help matters, with the rise of ghetto culture, and the diminishing of the nuclear family
I can’t and will not dispute this.
how am i missing all these racist posts?
is it because they stay in 'New' forever exactly the way they're supposed to?
then why am I hearing about them all the time, there's been shills this whole time it's nothing new.
Nah, they do exist, although relatively rare. Click on just about any post that mentions Israel and you'll find them
There are some long time posters who post racist shit all the time, especially when a non-white person does anything untoward, completely ignoring all of the non-white patriots of upstanding moral character on our side. They want to turn the MAGA movement into a white nationalist/white supremacy movement, even though it's never been about anything remotely close to that.
im actually fine with racist shit. fuckin get it out there in the open where we can all see that no one cares.
Only leftists conflate white nationalism with supremacy. Smh, good job
Same with "immigrants and illegal immigrants" not even the same but here you are using the lefts language
I've seen enough to know that that's a bullshit smokescreen they use to hide behind. They travel in the same circles, they use the same hateful rhetoric, spout the same beliefs, they have the same disdain and irrational hatred for non-Europeans. That's a pretty pathetic attempt at gaslighting. They use the term "white nationalist" because it is more palatable. White nationalists aren't about empowering white people but tearing everyone else down. White nationalists would say that there is NO difference between an illegal immigrant and a non-European legal immigrant who has been in this country for decades.
You are one big nut.even the minorities know there is a difference between nationalism and supremacism.
Retard.
You mean like this that just happened or this?
I don’t know why the left always acts like blacks aren’t capable of obtaining photo id, and always acting like they will always be down in the dumps and dependent on them
And acting like they all have to think exactly the same, and can’t have their own individual beliefs like everyone else
We believe they are very capable if succeeding and doing well for themselves and want them to have the freedom to do so
“It’s almost like the CIA knew the crack epidemic would irredeemably fuck up their community. Look at middle America now, China is doing the same shit to us with fentanyl.”
I’m gonna go easy on you, but this is coming off as some borderline woke white simping. Nobody made anyone use and sell drugs to their own commune nye tays. That was a choice. Stop taking the accountability and responsibility off of them. That’s exactly why we’re in the current situation we’re in now IMHO. Also, comparing “middle” America fentanyl to the black crack “epidemic” is all well and good, but you leave out the fact that “middle” America doesn’t and never has committed nearly the amount of violence, and crime including, but definitely not limited to, shooting each other in the streets at rates almost unimaginable.
Got ya.
I use to think like this to, and then I black pilled myself, and came to the realization that blacks have voted for communist leaders, and communists policies at a rate of between 90 and 95% each and every election resulting in whole areas of the country resembling, and functioning like many third world shitholes while dragging the rest of the country down with it. They are their own worst enemy, but continue to blame everyone else.
The hoax of black victimization has also been used, and continues to be used, very effectively I might add, for decades to control, and manipulate large swaths of the country into submission including, but not limited to woke white simps with no backbone. The result is the slow erosion, and destruction of our once great constitutional republic, much less freedom and liberty for all, and parts of the country that are uninhabitable, and no longer salvageable. All of this because diversity is our strength. 😞
Hope you are ready for more of the below, because it’s coming to your neighborhood wether you accept it or not.
https://thedonald.win/p/11PVts2025/daily-reminder-that-just-employi/
Can we deport this reddit-tier faggotry please?
Try me, bitch. I've been on the first car of the trump train since you were still thinking about Marco Rubio. Get bent and grow a pair.
Back to reddit faggot
Hey, another stormfag prison bitch! How does Nick Fuentes assholes taste, you inbred piece of trash?
FAST REPLY JIDF! I actually love real Jews, you people ruin it for your people! Keep hiding that Talmud!
Hey, tiny fella, no matter how hard you little meth heads try, you'll never be able to fragment MAGA with your WN boooshit. L'chaim!
I am just one dude, mil vet father fmr fed. Don't talk to anybody. I am no part of an organization. Here is my only social posting. Have no Twitt or FB.. I only call out what I see. JEWS/ISRAEL are not our friends. Boomer Black lovers will not save AMERICA YOU DUMB FUCK. WHITE LAND OWNERS SHOULD VOTE THAT IS IT. NEVER BEEN ON STORM OR WHATEVS. YOU ARE EITHER AMERICAN OR FOR ITS DESTRUCTION. THAT IS IT.
You're more lost than I thought.feel sorry for you. You live in the greatest age of mankind has ever offered. Virtually every book ever written, every philosophy ever conjured, every thought worth committing to paper is available to you on a $100 device. You could learn ANYthing. And you choose to be stuck in this postmodernist identarian politics bullshit. Good luck.
Oh, thanks! Also, eat a bag of dicks.
You go hang out with degraded perverts all you want, but don't fucking preach to me who I choose to associate with, virtue-signaling twit.
LOL
The accounts doing this are shill accounts. I deport that shit on sight!
Ok. I dont accept you. I reject YOU. No loser trashy simp morons in my America.
An obvious logical repsonse is that individuals should be judged based on their ideology, not their race or ethnicity
Maybe because humans have free will and the ability to think and act as individuals.
This is really a weak argument. Just because people have their own ability to reason and individual thought, does not mean that some people can not come to the same conclusions, especially when their are only limited possible ideologies in certain areas.
You judge people based on ideologies, because conflicting ideologies will create strife when living under a common government. A government can not be Marxist, and Capitalist at the same time, so their will inherently be conflict among those who have opposing ideologies, as only one can be implemented at the exclusion of the other.
🤣 captain obvious
Of course, and the fact that you actually typed that out is fucking retarded IMHO. The reality is that this isn’t possible until you know someone intimately, and what their true intentions are. Of course this is not possible for anyone to accomplish who ventures out, and participates in normal society. You run across way too many strangers throughout normal everyday life. To ignore your basic survival instincts such as pattern recognition at the possible detriment of you, and your loved ones in order to stay within the confines, and rule set of our PC “masters” is fucking bullshit and dangerous. The easiest, and quickest way to get a feel for how big of a threat a stranger may be to you, is what they look like, and how they present themselves. This includes many obvious things such as race/ethnicity, sex, age, physical size(height and weight) body movement/language, and how they choose to dress.
You know we are in trouble when we have to throughly explain what should be common sense to people even on this site. WE FUCKED!!! 😞
Wow, I've never seen someone own themselves as fast as that. Nice work.
Holy shit, are you really this dumb? They miss you over at voat, shill.
"Try forming a nonemotional argument...you poopyhead!!"
Fucking simp.
This is pure Anti-American Leftism ideology.
Patriots don't care what you do or look like, so long as you appreciate freedom and the costs to maintain it.
It just so happens it's statistically overwhelming white men that want it.
That's what started to get me, when you look at who votes for what parties. Constitution and libertarian are almost entirely white. Conservative is large majority white. And then Democrat-America Hating-Communist Party is where everyone else votes. 90% of blacks, 66% of latino, etc. If the country keeps slipping to where whites are the minority, do you guys honestly expect MAGA to keep existing in the future?
Well what I'm suggesting is we have to realize this problem BEFORE that happens. We won't be rounded into concentration camps now, we are still the majority and we still have our guy in office. But if we don't address this problem now, yes, in the future that will be our destiny. I think building the wall is insanely important, but it needs to go further. We need to deport people.
You speak the truth and people don't upvote because they are scared of reality.
Yes, but the faggots really do suck.
As long as they MAGA, who cares?
It doesn't .. but only about 3% of faggots are MAGA .. and that's 3% of 1.7% of the population - who, by the way, are unhealthy degenerates. But some of them are ok, I guess.
Makes you wonder where these polls come from. Jews are only 2% of the population. You would think at some point, myself or some other Jew I know would have been polled, there aren't too many of use after all, yet, that never happened
Maybe scumbags who poll ate full of shit? Because their customers ask for a certain result, so that's what their customers get?
Nobody is beyond criticism. That being said, the criticism needs merit and evidence.
Look at some of the comments on this post
Congratulations, we now know you can use Google. Its 2020. Adapt.
We wonder why MAGA hasnt taken off like it could, then people like you come along and we say "Oh, of course..." you're either a terrible trump supporter, or a pretty good shill.
Probably twice your age, but whatever shilly.
So...I'm twice as dumb as you are? Interesting. How dumb, exaclty, are you? Do you have some sense of your limited faculties, or is it just something people have told you over the years?
Way to own yourself fagit. Get on back to stormfront.
ItS tHe CuRrEnT YeAr!!
There is no Jewish leadership. Although there are some prominent Jews wha are funding Marxists, including Soros, Zueckerburg etc.
Strange to blame Jews in general for their actions, when those same "prominent Jews" don't give a damn about other Jews or Judaism. Soros may very well be the biggest anti-semite alive, and the only thing Jewish left to Zuckerberg is his name.
their were plenty of people who blamed Mark Levine's Judaism before he jumped on the Trump Train, but you don't see a whole lot mentioning his religion now that he is on the Trump train. Same with Dave Rubin, and Trump Attorney Ron Coleman
I heard Matt Braynard on Timcast IRL the other night mention that in his research they found the biggest indicator of the cultural divide is postmodernism.
In my opinion, postmodernism is subversive and encourages bad faith actors.
Only liberals see the world through the race lens. Everything is about race to them.
We only care about patriotism.
and that's why you're losing.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
You don’t care about race;this is because you are in the majority.
What race am I?
Jews, Blacks, Eskimos, Cajuns don't matter. Get behind us or in front. We DNGAF.You love FREEDOM THEN WE LOVE YOU.
They're also behind the mass immigration into all of these European countries.
Agree, and I’m not dismissing people’s concerns about all that stuff, there’s validity to some of it. Now isn’t the time for any of that though. You’re either for the President or you’re against him. When the dust settles, then we can address those issues. Until then, there’s two groups. Pro-Trump or Anti-Trump. Everyone has to pick one.
Observant Jews are hardcore Trump supporters. I am one of them. F the rest, they aren't part of my people.
Username doesnt check out, but i love you just the same, observant Jewish pede Bukake Jake
Wow, way to prove my point. Upvote!
To win this battle we need to come together as one people under GOD. It doesn’t matter who you are, where you come from, or what you look like. I was slightly annoyed today in DC because I try so hard to support the Proud Boys movement, but every time I step on their side, there’s always some idiot holding an Iron Cross flag. As a jewish person who LOVES this country, I can’t stand side by side with that. Everyone should be holding American Flags or MAGA flags, but we shouldn’t be alienating our own.
Theres room in MAGA country even for the non religious. I'm an atheist but I appreciate that our country was founded on CHRISTIAN values and that is what makes a lot of our society so great
Yeah.we lose most times because we don’t want to back an identity.A white Christian identity is the basis for American culture.
It’s bullshit accounts trying to fuck up what is going on here.
Always has been.
Hey look at that a 5 day old shill. So young so shill. U/MyDogHatesDemocrats3
How is he a schill? If you ventured into "new", there have been a lot of posts mentioning "jews", etc. And you once had a 5 day old account. That doesn't mean shit.
They're SO bad at this. But they send in waves, just like CHICOMS in the Korean War. Untrained, stupid, but in large numbers.
Greetings, shill! Did you pick up your welcome packet at the front desk?
It’s also obvious how mass downvotes pour in whenever someone points this out.
If Commies are bad, we're going to be dealing with a lot of Jews, going by historical records.
But we are not going after them because they are jewish. We are going after them because they are commies.
Exactly
You think enough people are going to make that distinction? Hitler sure didn't when purging the Communists and global bankers from the Weimar Republic.
Get the fuck out of here, glowie. We don't associate with Hitler or Nazis heres.
Excuse me, fren? Nobody said anything about association here. Rather a warning that not all will act in good faith to MAGA principles if it allows them to act on their hatred.
Those pedes are the exception, not the rule
True. But they're not pedes.
I hate being censored by MSM but I will censor anyone who doesn’t simp for Candace Owens.
I am mocking you moron.your first statement shows your naivety about the OP intentions. The OP is trying to cuck people here to ignore patterns and reality.
Stop being a faggot 😓😆😆
Yep!
Just deport
OP is wrong. We do have a preferred sexuality.
Magasexual.
I’ll see myself out now.
If you care more about color than freedom you are part of the problem
I will ever persist that I am not a racist... I hate everyone equally.
Well you're one of the few honest men in this thread.
The longer I live, the more I identify with Red Forman.
There are lots of dumbasses out there.
Co-signing
This site has been infiltrated by the enemy. Pay no attention to the nonsense, we are united in this fight.
Only one of those groups are invading us and weaponizing the others
Patriots have no skin color.
I wasn’t aware that MAGA had a melanin check. I thought the racist bullshit was DemonRat territory.
Trump got a record number of blacks, hispanics, gays and Jews voting republican in this election. The parties are no longer split by race. The split is by class. The wealthy and poor are Democrats because the wealthy can afford higher taxes and the poor want free stuff. The working class and normal folks are Trumpsters.
Boomers are morons.they got fed so much propaganda and they don’t discern.
Agreed. We don't need racial or religious or any other hate. Our enemy is an ideology. If people choose to fight for that ideology they are our enemies regardless of color or religious belief. If they choose to stand with us, they are our brothers and sisters, period. That is worth more than any gripe you project on them as individuals. Don't be a Leftist and rely on blame and accusation and bitter victim mentality. Be a MAGA Big Dick Pede and stand as an example of courage, confidence and stoicism, with hatred, because you don't need that crutch.
It's all so tiresome
Follow the constitution, love America, maintain freedom.
You do those three things I don't care how light absorbent your skin is, or what you do with your asshole.
MAGA
Latinos are great people and I respect them but MAGA is about preserving historical American culture and value system.t is difficult to preserve a culture if the people who founded that culture, don't exist or are in the minority. conservatives don't understand this and the OP makes this kind of post without looking at the big picture.
Here here!
It doesn't help the cause to advocate being thought police and killing people for their political beliefs
Argue with them, educate them, change their minds. The most ardent anti communists in the USA are Cuban expats who were indoctrinated to believe in communism. it is a yoke that can be thrown off if you try. But it's not going to happen if you tell people that you think they deserve to be murdered because of the way they think
Yet I believe their children tend to vote democrat. The longer they're here generationally speaking, the more likely to vote democrat..
Fuentes always seemed to me like just another trivial loudmouth getting his 15 minutes, but his followers and the cluster of morons who gravitate to this shit are just pathetic. But just like the WN brigades on T_D four+ yrs ago, i also suspect at least 50% of these idiots to be sponsored/paid leftist shills. Either way, its an easy deport.
Yeah they are the guys out there fighting for President Trump right now while Con Inc. grifters like Charlie Kirk shill for Israel.
charlie kirk has done 10 million times more for the maga movement then you or that faggot will ever do in ur life. Turning point is changing the next generation into conservatives . fake "america first" BS will set us back decades. Grow up pussies
lol you gotta be a troll. Charlie Kirk and Turning Point have grifted millions of dollars off of Trump's name and couldn't even be bothered to show up to one of these rallies when it mattered most. They spend more time shilling for Israel and promoting degenerate circus acts like Lady Maga than trying to stop the steal. Nick Fuentes and the groypers have humiliated Charlie at every turn.