I agree, just as you should be free to say/do as you wish BUT you're also responsible for the consequences. The latter part many people have problems with.
When we're protected from consequences, we fail to grow and learn. Consequences are built into life so that we can improve and develop the winning approach. By denying people the consequences of free choice, you are denying them development as a human being.
We should have let the banks fail in 2008, and we should be letting individuals fail.
Sounds like classical liberalism..... Which it is. That's how far the overton window has turned, that what once were liberals are now considered far-right nationalists. If far-right nationalism is equal rights, then by all means. Hate me. Revile me. Call me every name in the book. It doesn't phase me one bit. I will stand by them, because that's what principles are about. Everybody should be responsible for their own decisions and should be left to their own devices, so long as they do not affect other people.
If words affect you, I'm sorry but it goes both ways. Only difference is, I don't want to censor you. I don't have all the answers and feel just like anybody else, and my stance is grounded in pendanticism, not in value. I'd love to just hold hands and sing songs over marshmallows and ensure every man and woman has everything they could ever need or want, as I'm sure many if not most on this site would agree to. But the world doesn't work that way. Not yet. And until we get to that point where we can sustain ourselves indefinitely, it will only faII into disarray.....
California, as rich as silicon valley is, as progressive as its politicians are, aren't even able to provide even a decent fraction of homeless needs. It alone accounts for about a quarter of the nation's homelessness. That is what we're trying to avoid, and as bleak a future having to work a job you might not like may sound to you, suck it up, buttercup. And read about how over-regulation and the types of policies big cities are known for tends to affect small businesses disproportionately to big businesses before you pit the blame on capitalism and capitalism alone. Then tell me how propping even more progressive policies is gonna help what borked the system in the first place.
Sorry about the rant, but I figure the few troIIs who might see it could use some help in understanding what us conservatives are truly about.....
this needs far more upvotes. this is why i'm here. i'm a classical liberal, and we're a dying breed. the core of the constitution and the enlightenment values it seeks to uphold speaks to us. its strange but classical liberals must unite with conservatives to defeat woke bullshit.
Likewise with libertarianism. I think most of you guys are far more libertarian than the Libertarian Party is today. It's makes sense though. What are American conservatives trying to conserve? The Constitution. The most radically libertarian form of government ever attempted.
I don't think conservative ideals can be explained more concisely than that
I think it goes beyond that...
People espouse individual rights, but when SHTF, a lot of people want some type of handout/help.
I think "leave me alone" more or less implies "let me make my own decisions and own my own mistakes".
I agree, just as you should be free to say/do as you wish BUT you're also responsible for the consequences. The latter part many people have problems with.
When we're protected from consequences, we fail to grow and learn. Consequences are built into life so that we can improve and develop the winning approach. By denying people the consequences of free choice, you are denying them development as a human being.
We should have let the banks fail in 2008, and we should be letting individuals fail.
Sounds like classical liberalism..... Which it is. That's how far the overton window has turned, that what once were liberals are now considered far-right nationalists. If far-right nationalism is equal rights, then by all means. Hate me. Revile me. Call me every name in the book. It doesn't phase me one bit. I will stand by them, because that's what principles are about. Everybody should be responsible for their own decisions and should be left to their own devices, so long as they do not affect other people.
If words affect you, I'm sorry but it goes both ways. Only difference is, I don't want to censor you. I don't have all the answers and feel just like anybody else, and my stance is grounded in pendanticism, not in value. I'd love to just hold hands and sing songs over marshmallows and ensure every man and woman has everything they could ever need or want, as I'm sure many if not most on this site would agree to. But the world doesn't work that way. Not yet. And until we get to that point where we can sustain ourselves indefinitely, it will only faII into disarray.....
California, as rich as silicon valley is, as progressive as its politicians are, aren't even able to provide even a decent fraction of homeless needs. It alone accounts for about a quarter of the nation's homelessness. That is what we're trying to avoid, and as bleak a future having to work a job you might not like may sound to you, suck it up, buttercup. And read about how over-regulation and the types of policies big cities are known for tends to affect small businesses disproportionately to big businesses before you pit the blame on capitalism and capitalism alone. Then tell me how propping even more progressive policies is gonna help what borked the system in the first place.
Sorry about the rant, but I figure the few troIIs who might see it could use some help in understanding what us conservatives are truly about.....
this needs far more upvotes. this is why i'm here. i'm a classical liberal, and we're a dying breed. the core of the constitution and the enlightenment values it seeks to uphold speaks to us. its strange but classical liberals must unite with conservatives to defeat woke bullshit.
I’ve always held that classical liberals and American conservatives are the same thing. Shows how much the word liberal has been abused.
Huzzah.
I don't even label them conservative, just common damn sense.
Likewise with libertarianism. I think most of you guys are far more libertarian than the Libertarian Party is today. It's makes sense though. What are American conservatives trying to conserve? The Constitution. The most radically libertarian form of government ever attempted.
American constitution isn’t the only thing we need to conserve.Today conservatives don’t talk about immigration and borders like the founding fathers.