It was part of the Hopkins’ paper that got pulled down and censored by Hopkins. Hopkins claimed the data was inaccurate but the student(s) that authored it, backed it up and reinforced the findings as accurate & factual. Here is a link to the Archive of the study.
This isn't new to 2020 at all. Academia has been broken for a long time. James Lindsay (the guy who exposed Grievance studies a few years ago) talked about this with how a university professor did a similar experiment decades ago and it had no impact. No one cared about cleaning up the fraud in academia.
There's also academic journals' reluctance to retract a study that was proven false, so long as they agree with the narrative of the study. There was a study years ago that analyzed 2 key characteristics among left and right leaning people. It was something like narcissism and ego or something (sorry I can't remember the specifics). It got published with a conclusion that right wingers were higher in both qualities (both of which are commonly seen as negative). Another group examined it years later and found the original group stupidly swapped their inputs around. So the real conclusion was the opposite, the left wingers were actually higher in those two traits. The original study, still to this day and having been proven erroneous, has not been retracted.
Also, funnily enough, so much of academia are insane hypocrites. So many complain about capitalism non-stop yet 1 of the biggest costs to a university is their constant payments for online academic journal access.
Happily it is true, if you read the BOTTOM (below the graph) of the page you just linked to, that graph is based on modeling. The same modeling that said 2 million people in USA would die of this this year. Why would you need modeling, when you have the actual data in a link right above that graph..hmmm? Because you will simply look at the graph, not read the fine print, not parse the 470 K lines of entry, and you will believe that there are excess deaths. I have parsed that link, and adjusted for aging population, we had LESS deaths in 2020 than in past years.
It has real data for past years. Even if you want to discount modeling the values are higher than most years. The only modeling data is the yellow curve.
You're gonna get a ton of shit for that even though you're right...
I said this same thing using actual data -- and I was told that since the data came from the CDC it is all wrong.
Okay, but
the post I was replying to had NO sources and
the "study" u/IsrorOrca is referring to above is a video by Dr. Briand, which... is based on the same CDC data 🤦♂️
I actually emailed her about it on Thanksgiving, she replied she'd look into my questions, and nothing since.
It makes total sense. The reason why there are fewer reported deaths from heart disease and the flu is because they are attributed to COVID19 instead. How the hell else can heart disease just up and disappear in a year, when obesity has been on the rise?
All of the heart disease deaths are now allocated to COVID; and the total deaths for 2020 are no higher than they should be versus 2019, 2018
I really want to believe that, do you have a link?
It was part of the Hopkins’ paper that got pulled down and censored by Hopkins. Hopkins claimed the data was inaccurate but the student(s) that authored it, backed it up and reinforced the findings as accurate & factual. Here is a link to the Archive of the study.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201126163323/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19
This isn't new to 2020 at all. Academia has been broken for a long time. James Lindsay (the guy who exposed Grievance studies a few years ago) talked about this with how a university professor did a similar experiment decades ago and it had no impact. No one cared about cleaning up the fraud in academia.
There's also academic journals' reluctance to retract a study that was proven false, so long as they agree with the narrative of the study. There was a study years ago that analyzed 2 key characteristics among left and right leaning people. It was something like narcissism and ego or something (sorry I can't remember the specifics). It got published with a conclusion that right wingers were higher in both qualities (both of which are commonly seen as negative). Another group examined it years later and found the original group stupidly swapped their inputs around. So the real conclusion was the opposite, the left wingers were actually higher in those two traits. The original study, still to this day and having been proven erroneous, has not been retracted.
Also, funnily enough, so much of academia are insane hypocrites. So many complain about capitalism non-stop yet 1 of the biggest costs to a university is their constant payments for online academic journal access.
Ya, but you take different measures based on the lethality of a virus you fucking dunce!!!
We immediately quarantine anyone entering the country with Zika because it has a mortality rate of like 40%! We don't do the same for the common cold.
Of all the people they got to comment on this finding, it was a student of Applied Economics...
I’ve found it impossible to find heart disease deaths numbers for this year.
Happily it is true, if you read the BOTTOM (below the graph) of the page you just linked to, that graph is based on modeling. The same modeling that said 2 million people in USA would die of this this year. Why would you need modeling, when you have the actual data in a link right above that graph..hmmm? Because you will simply look at the graph, not read the fine print, not parse the 470 K lines of entry, and you will believe that there are excess deaths. I have parsed that link, and adjusted for aging population, we had LESS deaths in 2020 than in past years.
Patriot ^^^ Get this scientist a lab coat!!!
It has real data for past years. Even if you want to discount modeling the values are higher than most years. The only modeling data is the yellow curve.
You're gonna get a ton of shit for that even though you're right...
I said this same thing using actual data -- and I was told that since the data came from the CDC it is all wrong.
Okay, but
It makes total sense. The reason why there are fewer reported deaths from heart disease and the flu is because they are attributed to COVID19 instead. How the hell else can heart disease just up and disappear in a year, when obesity has been on the rise?