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If all-cause mortality for 2020 is within a single standard deviation of the figures for the last several years, then covid-19 is officially the greatest hoax in human history.
I am shocked... SHOCKED... that giving massive financial incentives to hospitals to label every death possible as a Wuhan virus death would influence their behavior in any way... this is me being totally shocked, I tell you.
That's just for hooking up the lung-wrecking barotrauma murder device. The full tab is more like $53,000 .. Plus other hospitalization costs to pad it out towards $70 - $80k.
The medical industry is so fucking dirty. Funny how an industry that is supposed to protect people and "do no harm" is by far the dirtiest group of people in the entire swamp. Big Pharma is behind so many evils.
I see. It's hard to tell since it seems like most people don't understand where money comes from these days, and that we can't just give it out with no consequence.
This has to be true, for there to be this many real Covid deaths would mean medical malpractice on an unprecedented scale. Given that there are several medical treatments for Covid (the HCQ combined with Zinc and antibiotic, then there is Ivermectin, which are all common drugs, and then from the pharmaceutical industry there is remdesivir, which President Trump said would be free for all to have). If there are actually thousands of Covid deaths every day, with at least three proven treatments, it would be the most medical malpractice since doctors bleeding everyone for every ailment in the Middle Ages.
I know that's true, but 2020 rules are in play now
1 out of 10000 scientists being aggressively unfactual is just too many, it's trending upwards, gonna have to put your field of research on lockdown kids
Globally too. Guess what one of the side effects is due to the vax's rdna transmission methods? A chance of second generation sterility in females. Take the vax and your future children will possibly be the last of your genetic line. It seems the globalist plan for population reduction is going to happen no matter what.
No shit? I thought it was sterility in the one who got the vaccine.
This is how they attempted to stop Zika btw. They let loose modified male mosquitoes which caused sterility in the second generation. I think the idea is that you could increase the amount of affected that way, vs having the original generation be sterile.
Right now 2020 is comparable to a heavy flu season, 5% additional mortality from the last figures I saw. This seems to be in line with the idea that only 6% of COVID fatalities were actually caused exclusively by COVID.
The lockdown deaths should start showing up next year. Large increase in cancer, heart disease, alcohol, drug, and suicide deaths.
Which would mean that the Wuhan flu wouldn't be so easily spread. So, given those 2 practices, and the supposed number of Wu flu cases, then the Wuhan flu is by far the most spreadable disease ever known to man if the current numbers are accurate yet we've managed to stamp down influenza to 0.
And yet in places that never mandated masks or had lockdowns, their cases are basically the exact same as everywhere else. They like to forget about this little problem with their data.
Wouldn't those same practices reduce covid as well since they share the same transmission vectors? The msm is screaming that this deadly plague is always on the rise.
They’re saying that the measures are working on covid and it would be worse without them. And apparently it’s an unfair comparison to look at states that are still open and compare. They think questioning the election results is a naked power grab except that’s exactly what lockdowns are. Alas
I asked my Princeton-educated Communist friend I know about why the flu was eradicated and that's what he said. I asked him why COVID is spreading so fast then and he said it's because masks and social distancing work for the flu but not as well for Covid. Ridiculous mental gymnastics.
It was part of the Hopkins’ paper that got pulled down and censored by Hopkins. Hopkins claimed the data was inaccurate but the student(s) that authored it, backed it up and reinforced the findings as accurate & factual. Here is a link to the Archive of the study.
This isn't new to 2020 at all. Academia has been broken for a long time. James Lindsay (the guy who exposed Grievance studies a few years ago) talked about this with how a university professor did a similar experiment decades ago and it had no impact. No one cared about cleaning up the fraud in academia.
There's also academic journals' reluctance to retract a study that was proven false, so long as they agree with the narrative of the study. There was a study years ago that analyzed 2 key characteristics among left and right leaning people. It was something like narcissism and ego or something (sorry I can't remember the specifics). It got published with a conclusion that right wingers were higher in both qualities (both of which are commonly seen as negative). Another group examined it years later and found the original group stupidly swapped their inputs around. So the real conclusion was the opposite, the left wingers were actually higher in those two traits. The original study, still to this day and having been proven erroneous, has not been retracted.
Also, funnily enough, so much of academia are insane hypocrites. So many complain about capitalism non-stop yet 1 of the biggest costs to a university is their constant payments for online academic journal access.
talked about this with how a university professor did a similar experiment decades ago and it had no impact.
Alan Sokal. He was a physicist and wrote some bullshit about how new discoveries and quantum gravity prove that diversity and affirmative action is good. He included obvious physics mistakes to see if they were paying attention. Of course they didn't catch it. They probably didn't even know enough about physics to realize they were getting pranked. They were like "science man agrees with our leftist dogma we should publish his paper durrr"
Thank you so much! Couldn't remember the exact specifics.
And I get why academics don't really check the specifics of every study that well, since it's just a tiny extra that they do but are unpaid for. But then don't expect people to eat up every word you and others say because of some bullshit "consensus" when a ton of studies are passed through with just 2 half-assed reviews.
Had a professor that actively submits total made up garbage to journals of all kinds for shits and giggles to see how much of it gets through. He gets way more through than he should.
Happily it is true, if you read the BOTTOM (below the graph) of the page you just linked to, that graph is based on modeling. The same modeling that said 2 million people in USA would die of this this year. Why would you need modeling, when you have the actual data in a link right above that graph..hmmm? Because you will simply look at the graph, not read the fine print, not parse the 470 K lines of entry, and you will believe that there are excess deaths. I have parsed that link, and adjusted for aging population, we had LESS deaths in 2020 than in past years.
Having recently lost a loved one (not to wuflu), I do believe this reporting lag claim. Submitting and reporting positive cases seems to be very quick, while the deceased reporting takes a few weeks, even under normal circumstances. My mom's remains had to stay at the funeral home for about 10 days before receiving the death certificate and permits for burial, etc. I am thinking deaths can't be reported until M.E. or coroner gives their stamp. And I'm not in a heavily populated county. So, mostly a bureaucratic delay.
It has real data for past years. Even if you want to discount modeling the values are higher than most years. The only modeling data is the yellow curve.
You're gonna get a ton of shit for that even though you're right...
I said this same thing using actual data -- and I was told that since the data came from the CDC it is all wrong.
Okay, but
the post I was replying to had NO sources and
the "study" u/IsrorOrca is referring to above is a video by Dr. Briand, which... is based on the same CDC data 🤦♂️
I actually emailed her about it on Thanksgiving, she replied she'd look into my questions, and nothing since.
It makes total sense. The reason why there are fewer reported deaths from heart disease and the flu is because they are attributed to COVID19 instead. How the hell else can heart disease just up and disappear in a year, when obesity has been on the rise?
They really caught themselves in a bind with the mask thing. Now they’re yapping about the environmental damage caused by masks to get rid of them. Shameless.
They will 100% say (as I've had this argument with friends) that "well there's so many people not following the orders because of Trump". But most cases are in Dem strongholds and you'd be an absolute idiot to believe those people follow anything Trump says AND the cases in every country went up around the same time as well. So Trump is influencing everyone in Italy too? And Spain? The UK? And Canada?
People are morons.
Same people who think masks are foolproof, yet when I told them both Fauci and the CDC had said before that those masks don't work were just like ".... just wear the mask!"
And still 7500 claimed "Covid deaths", So without Covid we're expected to believe the total death count this year suddenly would have dropped by 7.5% compared to previous years relatively straight line.
Also keep in mind that lot's of the older people where born after the end of WWII, all of which are about 80 years old now and are expected to die at any time.
You're damn right, there's been attempts tho. Whoever tries to enforce it by coming to my house and tell me how I should live my life will be shot, antifa will be shot twice and thrown into the pigs.
Hundreds of thousands of people die every year from poor diet and lack of exercise. Way more than wuflu.
If the government really cared about our health they'd stop subsidizing big corn and big canola. Everything's soaked in high fructose corn syrup and deep fried in vegetable oil. It's making everyone fat and unhealthy and more at risk to wuflu.
Plus I heard most of the people that died from wuflu were vitamin D deficient. Vitamin D apparently is important for your immune system and is dirt cheap to supplement. But I haven't heard the government telling people to take their vitamins, clean up their diet and get some exercise so their own immune system has a better chance of fighting off wuflu. They'd rather sell us $2000 remdemsivir treatment and make us take an experimental vaccine with unknown longterm health effects.
Overdose deaths are up and there are reports of it in places like Canada, just no connection by the media or health officials to the lockdowns of course. Nope. Numbers were going down and now have spiked up, to the point I think British Colombia had set a certain month's record by like 1.5 or 2x the number from years prior. But no connection to shutting things down. Nope!
This is the same country where, in February, their top federal health expert said it was okay to give China a huge portion of the nation's PPE supplies (for free) because they were in need. With no expectation of reciprocal return when Canada would be in need which was clear even by then this would be spreading everywhere. Canada then in March bought PPE supplies from China at spiked costs.
This is the same country where, in February, their top federal health expert said it was okay to give China a huge portion of the nation's PPE supplies (for free) because they were in need. With no expectation of reciprocal return when Canada would be in need which was clear even by then this would be spreading everywhere. Canada then in March bought PPE supplies from China at spiked costs.
Sounds like they're either treasonously malicious or horrifyingly incompetent.
Well there was an internal leak recently where apparently Trudeau's administration was baffled as to why the US opposed them hosting some Chinese military for training. So honestly... it actually could be horrifying incompetence. I get the whole saying "never attribute malice to something you can attribute ignorance to" but I always thought elitists in particular were more on the malevolent side. Now I don't know.
this is probably the saddest statistic, as many people did not get a physical exam by a doctor for months due to the fear instilled, so they lost the opportunity to get diagnosed and treated earlier in the disease
Yes, in states with strict lockdowns and a scared populace, look for deaths from cardiovascular disease and cancer to rise in the next 1-5 years. Of course our public's attention spans are shorter than a puppy's with 5 toys to choose from. Therefore, they'll never remember the rise in deaths are due to actions we took this year.
Not just doctors. The medical industry is a business, and you should never blindly trust a business that profits more from keeping people sick and uninformed rather than actually helping them.
The millions of people who have died in the 3rd world from starvation due to economic downturn could be considered as dying due to "complications related to covid". People that commit suicide due to lockdowns and depression could be considered dying due to "complications related to covid". It's 100% newspeak for not covid. It covid killed him they would've said it was covid. Something else killed him, but they want to link it to covid.
Making a career for yourself in country music is always hard. But I grew up in Tennessee in the sixties, my dad lived in Nashville at that time. This red-neck racism story they like to tell in Hollywood is way overblown. Lots of my family and friends were self-avowed red-necks and most of us liked Charlie Pride and were proud of Arthur Ashe, the Chattanooga Tennis star. My grandmother, who was in her 70s at the time, played his album often, particularly liking Green Green Grass of Home and Wings of a Dove. Don't believe everything you see on Hollywood. Tennessee wasn't anywhere near as racist in the 60s as the Democrats are right now.
Advanced Heart Failure is not curable and people eventually die because their heart can no longer pump efficiently. If someone with advanced heart disease ( or lung disease or other end organ failure) gets hit with a nasty virus, it could even be rhinovirus, or thee other form of coronavirus, the flu or develop pneumonia. chances are they do not have the necessary reserves to fight it.
Now with covid, instead of putting HF as cause of death, they are putting covid.
Thank you for this. I know the CDC sucks, but I'm trying to at least make sense of what they're stats show.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
How can I see where it shows the total excess deaths compared to previous years... and the drop in heart disease, flu, etc deaths?
Well, not sure about this years stats, but you can look at trends for past years......... I am not disputing that for some the COVID 19 virus shortened their life, and some would never have died other than they got COVID. It is a novel virus none of our immune systems had never been exposed to, and it ceerrrtaainly had some unique features and presentations like nothing I have seen. BUT that being said, there are many people who appear to either be able to fight it as they have fought flu or viruses before, or they show no symptoms. Bottom line is that many many in US are unhealthy. They are one exposure to an infectious agent away from the slippery slope.
I mentioned this to a guy at work who is a major health-nut, except for being heavily infected with TDS. Must be the cognitive dissonance that made the steam start leaking out his ears.
I googled heart disease deaths in America it’s 655k a year roughly 1800 people a day. Meanwhile they still allow McDonald’s to advertise to children, not a totally solid argument but it stands that heart disease is worse than covid full stop.
All the commies are in on this one. You can watch them rationalize their positions on TV, the doctors feel empowered, the bureaucrats and politicians feel empowered, and they absolutely love rubbing it in your faces. The last thing on Earth they want to do is end it - end their unjustified authoritarian rule, expose themselves for the frauds and hacks they are - no, they'll keep the gravy train going as long as they can. We have to stop them - NOW.
I have been yelling about this online for awhile now. Cardiovascular disease, cancer and diabetes kill more people annually than Covid. So why aren't we panicking and pushing harder for a cure to these ailments?
Because they don't actually care about people dying.
Last years positivity rate for testing for the flu, week-ending 49 was 11.3%.
30510 tested with 3436 confirmed positive.
This years positivity rate for testing for the flu, week-ending 49 is .2%.
22474 tested with 40 confirmed positive.
Yeah, those who say the CDC isn't tracking are incorrect. They are tracking. It even appears that they are testing for it. But the results sure aren't matching up to historical numbers. My hypothesis is that the other 2400 cases that would've been positive this year were probably attributed falsely to the wuflu. No proof, but a drop from ~10% to .2% is hugely significant imo.
If all-cause mortality for 2020 is within a single standard deviation of the figures for the last several years, then covid-19 is officially the greatest hoax in human history.
I am shocked... SHOCKED... that giving massive financial incentives to hospitals to label every death possible as a Wuhan virus death would influence their behavior in any way... this is me being totally shocked, I tell you.
$39,000 per kung flu death is quite the incentive!
That's just for hooking up the lung-wrecking barotrauma murder device. The full tab is more like $53,000 .. Plus other hospitalization costs to pad it out towards $70 - $80k.
... like I said, I am shocked. Did I mention how shocked I am?
The medical industry is so fucking dirty. Funny how an industry that is supposed to protect people and "do no harm" is by far the dirtiest group of people in the entire swamp. Big Pharma is behind so many evils.
Shocked!
DAMN! thanks for the info pede!
I'd love to know where this money is coming from.
As with everything else in the government, you.
I was being sarcastic.
I see. It's hard to tell since it seems like most people don't understand where money comes from these days, and that we can't just give it out with no consequence.
This has to be true, for there to be this many real Covid deaths would mean medical malpractice on an unprecedented scale. Given that there are several medical treatments for Covid (the HCQ combined with Zinc and antibiotic, then there is Ivermectin, which are all common drugs, and then from the pharmaceutical industry there is remdesivir, which President Trump said would be free for all to have). If there are actually thousands of Covid deaths every day, with at least three proven treatments, it would be the most medical malpractice since doctors bleeding everyone for every ailment in the Middle Ages.
Some local news retard tweeted that one person was dying in our state every thirty minutes.
Normies in the thread were clutching all their pearls.
I pulled last year's stats and pointed out 3.5 people died every thirty minutes from whatever, no big deal.
And on the flip side of San Diego's 6 total flu cases, according to the state we're at 386% higher case load than last year.
Hmmmmm - could the scientists just..kindly all go shut the fuck up for the rest of their lives?
Before that choice to speak is removed from them, in minecraft.
Just the political hack and junk scientists; not the real ones. The real ones are cool and are still out there but you have to search hard for them.
I know that's true, but 2020 rules are in play now
1 out of 10000 scientists being aggressively unfactual is just too many, it's trending upwards, gonna have to put your field of research on lockdown kids
Stay home stay safe and don't bother us again
How else do you balance the humors??
We’ll have a commission by 2026 exposing what we already know. It’s maddening
No they'll tell us how it was all Drumpf's fault.
Speaker of the House AOC Will write a strongly worded letter to the Pelosi museum of Alchoholism
At some point the jig will be up.
2056
Nah it will be by midterms in Trump’s third term 😉
Lol yet 90% of the population will continue to wear masks and get the Covid jab 🤮🤮🤮
Globally too. Guess what one of the side effects is due to the vax's rdna transmission methods? A chance of second generation sterility in females. Take the vax and your future children will possibly be the last of your genetic line. It seems the globalist plan for population reduction is going to happen no matter what.
No shit? I thought it was sterility in the one who got the vaccine.
This is how they attempted to stop Zika btw. They let loose modified male mosquitoes which caused sterility in the second generation. I think the idea is that you could increase the amount of affected that way, vs having the original generation be sterile.
The left thinks humanity is a virus anyway, so sterility is a logical step forward in their minds.
Except of course for the left in power; they need to keep reproducing to create dynasties and camelots.
Right now 2020 is comparable to a heavy flu season, 5% additional mortality from the last figures I saw. This seems to be in line with the idea that only 6% of COVID fatalities were actually caused exclusively by COVID.
The lockdown deaths should start showing up next year. Large increase in cancer, heart disease, alcohol, drug, and suicide deaths.
I wonder if weakened immune systems have anything to do with that.
This is sarcasm ... of course it fucking does.
See aids. Nomorefakenews.com
confirmed by the WHO: https://www.who.int/influenza/gisrs_laboratory/updates/flunet_globalviruscirculation_20201120.pdf?ua=1
and in comparison to 2019: https://www.who.int/influenza/gisrs_laboratory/updates/flunet_globalviruscirculation_20200522.pdf
you can see no flu anymore.
The left (a doctor I know), argued that the decrease in Flu this year is due to social distancing and hygiene practices.
Which would mean that the Wuhan flu wouldn't be so easily spread. So, given those 2 practices, and the supposed number of Wu flu cases, then the Wuhan flu is by far the most spreadable disease ever known to man if the current numbers are accurate yet we've managed to stamp down influenza to 0.
of course they say that. also without lockdown we would have billions of deaths for sure!!
2.8 billion according to sources.
And yet in places that never mandated masks or had lockdowns, their cases are basically the exact same as everywhere else. They like to forget about this little problem with their data.
just like here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd0p96miSK8&ab_channel=PeanutButterFingers
Wouldn't those same practices reduce covid as well since they share the same transmission vectors? The msm is screaming that this deadly plague is always on the rise.
2+2=5 I LisTen tO tHe scIenCe! Racist.
They’re saying that the measures are working on covid and it would be worse without them. And apparently it’s an unfair comparison to look at states that are still open and compare. They think questioning the election results is a naked power grab except that’s exactly what lockdowns are. Alas
Then show him AZ's stats, apparently 380% higher flu case load over last year
How can flu go down to zero there, spike past anything we've seen somewhere else, but covid is also increasing, but it's also decreasing.
Q: Similarly, how can someone have $400k income from China, but also not have it?
A: By not counting (reporting) it
I asked my Princeton-educated Communist friend I know about why the flu was eradicated and that's what he said. I asked him why COVID is spreading so fast then and he said it's because masks and social distancing work for the flu but not as well for Covid. Ridiculous mental gymnastics.
I love data. It's so great.
Wtf, this is egregiously obvious. Flu/medical pedes, is there any alternate explanation for this?
I tried to find out but i was unsuccessful. Look at CW50. We know that flu cases will rise. Fauci predicted a spike in CW5. what a genius-.-
Wuflu is contagious like a cold (and dangerous to 0.1% of the population). Flu is much less contagious so all our distancing has prevented flu spread.
All of the heart disease deaths are now allocated to COVID; and the total deaths for 2020 are no higher than they should be versus 2019, 2018
I really want to believe that, do you have a link?
It was part of the Hopkins’ paper that got pulled down and censored by Hopkins. Hopkins claimed the data was inaccurate but the student(s) that authored it, backed it up and reinforced the findings as accurate & factual. Here is a link to the Archive of the study.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201126163323/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19
This isn't new to 2020 at all. Academia has been broken for a long time. James Lindsay (the guy who exposed Grievance studies a few years ago) talked about this with how a university professor did a similar experiment decades ago and it had no impact. No one cared about cleaning up the fraud in academia.
There's also academic journals' reluctance to retract a study that was proven false, so long as they agree with the narrative of the study. There was a study years ago that analyzed 2 key characteristics among left and right leaning people. It was something like narcissism and ego or something (sorry I can't remember the specifics). It got published with a conclusion that right wingers were higher in both qualities (both of which are commonly seen as negative). Another group examined it years later and found the original group stupidly swapped their inputs around. So the real conclusion was the opposite, the left wingers were actually higher in those two traits. The original study, still to this day and having been proven erroneous, has not been retracted.
Also, funnily enough, so much of academia are insane hypocrites. So many complain about capitalism non-stop yet 1 of the biggest costs to a university is their constant payments for online academic journal access.
Alan Sokal. He was a physicist and wrote some bullshit about how new discoveries and quantum gravity prove that diversity and affirmative action is good. He included obvious physics mistakes to see if they were paying attention. Of course they didn't catch it. They probably didn't even know enough about physics to realize they were getting pranked. They were like "science man agrees with our leftist dogma we should publish his paper durrr"
Speaking of "dog-ma" ;)
A Portland State University Professor Made Up a Study of Dog-on-Dog Sexual Assault—and Got the Hoax Published
Peter Boghossian and his colleagues launched the satirical broadside at feminist theory and race-studies scholarship.
https://www.wweek.com/news/schools/2018/10/09/a-portland-state-university-professor-made-up-a-study-of-dog-on-dog-sexual-assault-and-got-the-hoax-published/
Examined 10 000 dogs genitals! Now that's dedication lmao
Thank you so much! Couldn't remember the exact specifics.
And I get why academics don't really check the specifics of every study that well, since it's just a tiny extra that they do but are unpaid for. But then don't expect people to eat up every word you and others say because of some bullshit "consensus" when a ton of studies are passed through with just 2 half-assed reviews.
Had a professor that actively submits total made up garbage to journals of all kinds for shits and giggles to see how much of it gets through. He gets way more through than he should.
Ya, but you take different measures based on the lethality of a virus you fucking dunce!!!
We immediately quarantine anyone entering the country with Zika because it has a mortality rate of like 40%! We don't do the same for the common cold.
Of all the people they got to comment on this finding, it was a student of Applied Economics...
I’ve found it impossible to find heart disease deaths numbers for this year.
Happily it is true, if you read the BOTTOM (below the graph) of the page you just linked to, that graph is based on modeling. The same modeling that said 2 million people in USA would die of this this year. Why would you need modeling, when you have the actual data in a link right above that graph..hmmm? Because you will simply look at the graph, not read the fine print, not parse the 470 K lines of entry, and you will believe that there are excess deaths. I have parsed that link, and adjusted for aging population, we had LESS deaths in 2020 than in past years.
They pulled 50,000 deaths from suitcases after making all the observers leave!
Having recently lost a loved one (not to wuflu), I do believe this reporting lag claim. Submitting and reporting positive cases seems to be very quick, while the deceased reporting takes a few weeks, even under normal circumstances. My mom's remains had to stay at the funeral home for about 10 days before receiving the death certificate and permits for burial, etc. I am thinking deaths can't be reported until M.E. or coroner gives their stamp. And I'm not in a heavily populated county. So, mostly a bureaucratic delay.
Patriot ^^^ Get this scientist a lab coat!!!
It has real data for past years. Even if you want to discount modeling the values are higher than most years. The only modeling data is the yellow curve.
You're gonna get a ton of shit for that even though you're right...
I said this same thing using actual data -- and I was told that since the data came from the CDC it is all wrong.
Okay, but
It makes total sense. The reason why there are fewer reported deaths from heart disease and the flu is because they are attributed to COVID19 instead. How the hell else can heart disease just up and disappear in a year, when obesity has been on the rise?
So the WHO also uses Dominion then. Nice.
I looked at New York's flu charts. You can compare to past years there going back three years. We're at week 49.
In 2020 NY is just below 300 reported cases statewide; in 2019 they had over 1800, in 2018 just over 600, and in 2017 just below 600.
So it's at half of an average year. Can't imagine why.
bECauSe mAsKs woRk!
Then why, pray tell, are the covid deaths so high????
They really caught themselves in a bind with the mask thing. Now they’re yapping about the environmental damage caused by masks to get rid of them. Shameless.
Environmental damage by masks is real tho, those nasty things end up everywhere, even my yard
Goddamnit so you're telling me by not wearing a mask this I've been a tree hugger this whole fucking time?!
Nothing wrong with not wanting to litter up this beautiful earth we've been given.
If they didn’t have double standards, they’d have none at all.
BeCauSE pEoPle AreN’t weARinG mAsKs, duH!
They will 100% say (as I've had this argument with friends) that "well there's so many people not following the orders because of Trump". But most cases are in Dem strongholds and you'd be an absolute idiot to believe those people follow anything Trump says AND the cases in every country went up around the same time as well. So Trump is influencing everyone in Italy too? And Spain? The UK? And Canada?
People are morons.
Same people who think masks are foolproof, yet when I told them both Fauci and the CDC had said before that those masks don't work were just like ".... just wear the mask!"
While you're at it, look at the pneumonia, it's through the roof -- coincidentally, at the same time as COVID peaked in NY.
The flu has been on a major upwards trend for several years.(u til this year of course).
17 and 18 are about the same, 19 was a big spike, then 20 it's like it just went away
Total amount of deaths in Sweden year by year over the last 10 years, 2020 ain't worse than any previous year: https://www.statista.com/statistics/525353/sweden-number-of-deaths/
And still 7500 claimed "Covid deaths", So without Covid we're expected to believe the total death count this year suddenly would have dropped by 7.5% compared to previous years relatively straight line.
Also keep in mind that lot's of the older people where born after the end of WWII, all of which are about 80 years old now and are expected to die at any time.
sweden is the place that didnt lock down right?
You're damn right, there's been attempts tho. Whoever tries to enforce it by coming to my house and tell me how I should live my life will be shot, antifa will be shot twice and thrown into the pigs.
Don't forget about overdoses. Overdose deaths were all over the news before the China Virus, but now no one is dying from those either.
Hundreds of thousands of people die every year from poor diet and lack of exercise. Way more than wuflu.
If the government really cared about our health they'd stop subsidizing big corn and big canola. Everything's soaked in high fructose corn syrup and deep fried in vegetable oil. It's making everyone fat and unhealthy and more at risk to wuflu.
Plus I heard most of the people that died from wuflu were vitamin D deficient. Vitamin D apparently is important for your immune system and is dirt cheap to supplement. But I haven't heard the government telling people to take their vitamins, clean up their diet and get some exercise so their own immune system has a better chance of fighting off wuflu. They'd rather sell us $2000 remdemsivir treatment and make us take an experimental vaccine with unknown longterm health effects.
Overdose deaths are up and there are reports of it in places like Canada, just no connection by the media or health officials to the lockdowns of course. Nope. Numbers were going down and now have spiked up, to the point I think British Colombia had set a certain month's record by like 1.5 or 2x the number from years prior. But no connection to shutting things down. Nope!
This is the same country where, in February, their top federal health expert said it was okay to give China a huge portion of the nation's PPE supplies (for free) because they were in need. With no expectation of reciprocal return when Canada would be in need which was clear even by then this would be spreading everywhere. Canada then in March bought PPE supplies from China at spiked costs.
Brilliant. Just brilliant.
Sounds like they're either treasonously malicious or horrifyingly incompetent.
Well there was an internal leak recently where apparently Trudeau's administration was baffled as to why the US opposed them hosting some Chinese military for training. So honestly... it actually could be horrifying incompetence. I get the whole saying "never attribute malice to something you can attribute ignorance to" but I always thought elitists in particular were more on the malevolent side. Now I don't know.
And we cured breast cancer
this is probably the saddest statistic, as many people did not get a physical exam by a doctor for months due to the fear instilled, so they lost the opportunity to get diagnosed and treated earlier in the disease
Yes, in states with strict lockdowns and a scared populace, look for deaths from cardiovascular disease and cancer to rise in the next 1-5 years. Of course our public's attention spans are shorter than a puppy's with 5 toys to choose from. Therefore, they'll never remember the rise in deaths are due to actions we took this year.
The left: it's because people are wearing masks.
People with a brain: then why are the covid19 cases suddenly rising
The left: Because it's all the maskless Red State's exporting it to other states like New York.
People with a brain: No! Ya dumb shits! It's because there is less sunlight!
The left: What does the sun have to do with anything!?
the libs: "cuz people aren't wearing masks"
circle is complete
Doublethink.
I'll never trust doctors anymore.
Not just doctors. The medical industry is a business, and you should never blindly trust a business that profits more from keeping people sick and uninformed rather than actually helping them.
Wife works as patient placement coordinator for a local 5-hospital network (Tower Health).
So far this year, there hasn't been a SINGLE POSITIVE CASE of seasonal flu. Not one. Amazing.
Why would there be less heart disease?
Charlie Pride just died of “complications related to covid” with no real explanation I could find on any news site. You mean like that?
That stinks. I really enjoyed his music. Why no news🥺
The millions of people who have died in the 3rd world from starvation due to economic downturn could be considered as dying due to "complications related to covid". People that commit suicide due to lockdowns and depression could be considered dying due to "complications related to covid". It's 100% newspeak for not covid. It covid killed him they would've said it was covid. Something else killed him, but they want to link it to covid.
Perfectly worded 👍🏼
Ahh that’s terrible. I listen to Charlie Pride Live at Panther Hall all the time. It’s one of my favorite albums of all time. :(
Aww sorry! He lived a long life and survived cancer and brain surgery RIP 😇
Talk about going against the grain. Making a career for yourself in Nashville as a black artist in the 60s could not have been easy. RIP Charlie.
Making a career for yourself in country music is always hard. But I grew up in Tennessee in the sixties, my dad lived in Nashville at that time. This red-neck racism story they like to tell in Hollywood is way overblown. Lots of my family and friends were self-avowed red-necks and most of us liked Charlie Pride and were proud of Arthur Ashe, the Chattanooga Tennis star. My grandmother, who was in her 70s at the time, played his album often, particularly liking Green Green Grass of Home and Wings of a Dove. Don't believe everything you see on Hollywood. Tennessee wasn't anywhere near as racist in the 60s as the Democrats are right now.
Heart disease deaths I mean
Heart disease is the number one killer in the United states- you can check on the CDC websites. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm
In 2018 Heart disease killed over 655,000 people.
Advanced Heart Failure is not curable and people eventually die because their heart can no longer pump efficiently. If someone with advanced heart disease ( or lung disease or other end organ failure) gets hit with a nasty virus, it could even be rhinovirus, or thee other form of coronavirus, the flu or develop pneumonia. chances are they do not have the necessary reserves to fight it.
Now with covid, instead of putting HF as cause of death, they are putting covid.
Thank you for this. I know the CDC sucks, but I'm trying to at least make sense of what they're stats show. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm How can I see where it shows the total excess deaths compared to previous years... and the drop in heart disease, flu, etc deaths?
Well, not sure about this years stats, but you can look at trends for past years......... I am not disputing that for some the COVID 19 virus shortened their life, and some would never have died other than they got COVID. It is a novel virus none of our immune systems had never been exposed to, and it ceerrrtaainly had some unique features and presentations like nothing I have seen. BUT that being said, there are many people who appear to either be able to fight it as they have fought flu or viruses before, or they show no symptoms. Bottom line is that many many in US are unhealthy. They are one exposure to an infectious agent away from the slippery slope.
It's one of the seniors' natural causes of death? Now, natural cause = covid.
Yes that makes a LOT of sense thank you 👍🏼
relabeled as covid deaths
I mentioned this to a guy at work who is a major health-nut, except for being heavily infected with TDS. Must be the cognitive dissonance that made the steam start leaking out his ears.
I googled heart disease deaths in America it’s 655k a year roughly 1800 people a day. Meanwhile they still allow McDonald’s to advertise to children, not a totally solid argument but it stands that heart disease is worse than covid full stop.
Also we achieved immortality, no ones dying from old age any more. It's been a good year.
Pneumonia deaths are wayyy up actually. Thats what happens when you lock people indoors.
Overall deaths will be down in 2020 unless the last 2 weeks has more deaths than the last 2 months.
The Flu is COVID
I'm honestly starting to believe that.
No flu, Heart disease or movie theater deaths under TRUMP 🇺🇸
Chevy Silveraydo
Only 530 confirmed cases of Influenza in all of America as of September. A miracle!
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
Damn we're good I just didn't expect us to be that damn good
All the commies are in on this one. You can watch them rationalize their positions on TV, the doctors feel empowered, the bureaucrats and politicians feel empowered, and they absolutely love rubbing it in your faces. The last thing on Earth they want to do is end it - end their unjustified authoritarian rule, expose themselves for the frauds and hacks they are - no, they'll keep the gravy train going as long as they can. We have to stop them - NOW.
This honestly needs to be blown up a lot more. The sooner people realise this the quicker the Covid hoax and its deadly vaccines can be stopped.
Every single illness that is time sensitive on discovery (ie. cancer) will be worse in the coming years. Every. single. one.
By these metrics alone the left should want to shut down the economy indefinitely!
They do ...
Covid is a magic virus. It knows how to avoid affecting people at political rallies and cuts pneumonia deaths to zero.
Juggle the C-19 numbers, like the election ballots.
We also maintained the same amount of deaths as the previous 4 years... as did every other country.
"Yea, but 9 people actually died of Covid-19, so it does in fact kill, a little."
Love Amiri King. Huge fan. His facebook has been dead lately.
I have been yelling about this online for awhile now. Cardiovascular disease, cancer and diabetes kill more people annually than Covid. So why aren't we panicking and pushing harder for a cure to these ailments?
Because they don't actually care about people dying.
I guess covid deaths are fungible.
We must give everybody Covid to finish eradicating all other forms of death.
Heart disease, cancer, influenza, car crashes, and suicide are all symptoms of COVID. Everyone knows that.
We reduced heart disease so much, that heart attacks are only up by 300% this year!
Clinical Lab testing data:
Last years positivity rate for testing for the flu, week-ending 49 was 11.3%. 30510 tested with 3436 confirmed positive.
This years positivity rate for testing for the flu, week-ending 49 is .2%.
22474 tested with 40 confirmed positive.
Yeah, those who say the CDC isn't tracking are incorrect. They are tracking. It even appears that they are testing for it. But the results sure aren't matching up to historical numbers. My hypothesis is that the other 2400 cases that would've been positive this year were probably attributed falsely to the wuflu. No proof, but a drop from ~10% to .2% is hugely significant imo.
Data from CDC website, Fluview.
Edit to include actual sauce: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/Week49.htm https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
And they won’t give President Trump credit for any of this
tHaTs BeCaUsE sCiEnCe ImPrOvEd!!!
Can someone please tell me why Americans are paying for their hospital China virus visits? Shouldn’t China be paying the government for this ????
Does anyone have an article on this? All I can find is bullshit MSM and WEF lies.
Yeah Buddy. It has been a really GREAT year /s