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I'm glad the shill got deleted, but you have a point. White is largely a social construct. There's a massive difference between Anglo Saxons, Nordics, Mediterraneans, Spainiards,and mixes of all of the above between each other and also with the native peoples of their lands (Indians, Moors, etc) so to try to lump multiple races and cultures under one color nomenclature when the skin colors aren't even uniform is ridiculous
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The real issue is the storm front types want "white" to be only Anglo and Nordic. They can't stand the idea of Jews or Hispanics being considered white. Even though the majority of Israelis. Persians, and Syrians are white Skinned, and literally some Hispanics are 100% white and all are at least 25-50% white genetically (and just tan easier because of the genetic makeup
Still, we did good work, glad to see this guys division tactics fail here.
But they aren't. Just because the US census makes ridiculous categorizations doesn't make something true. The US government also says that rising prices is not inflation. They change definitions just like the leftists change definitions.
"The big picture: The numbers simply do not lie. America, as a whole, and swing states, in particular, are growing more diverse, more quickly. There is no way Republicans can change birth rates or curb this trend — and there's not a single demographic megatrend that favors Republicans."
Bottom line.... if the country is not majority white, the country will become majority communist-hate America-democrat. It's just a reality of the numbers. I have open arms to anyone, of any color, that supports freedom and liberty. But as a matter of policy, we need to address the demographic change and reverse it, quickly.
Another thing to point out is the pragmatic outlook on it. As of right now, non-whites don't seem too on board with Enlightenment values based on voting patterns, like you highlighted. How does one reconcile that, with trying to change their mind?
That's not a bad idea, but the issue is that requires change over generations. They're having more and more children, while the demographics that follow classical Liberal values are having less, meaning they become a majority in less than 20 years. Then any leverage or one would have to convince them is out the window, since they're the ones with the power at that point.
And that's on top of being weaponized against you. We saw this EXACT same scenario play out in South Africa and Rhodesia. Those countries were test runs.
This is why the Democrats fight so hard for mass immigration, both illegal and legal. Bring in boatloads of people who want social programs, have high ethnocentrism and in-group preference, and who generally don't give much of a shit what the Founding Fathers wanted for this country.
I wouldn't go that Machiavellian approach. I think it's just something to shine light on and be honest about. What you're suggesting to me kind of explains the far left's preoccupation with 'helping' black people while simultaneously supporting everything that hurts them. It seems to me, they went the route you're suggesting. And I think if we look at how they've unraveled, it's a tree that bears toxic fruit.
That being said, I don't know what the "good" solution is. Mass deportations were tried in Nazi Germany, and it didn't end so well for anyone. I completely agree with shutting down the border and deporting anyone that is currently here illegally. I think we might be able to rally people to support deporting Chinese, especially any that have connection to CCP. But as far as everyone else, I don't see where you can find a solution that won't lead to disastrous responses from everyone.
Read his entire post history, freaking handshake account posting stormfag vanguard bullshit. I'm not good enough at shittalk to reply to him the way he deserves it. Anaconda, please come shut this fag up. I'm deport buttoning every single one of these posts by him.. If he was a year long member and he wasn't always spewing crap like this and calling Trump an idiot I'd let it slide. This is proof we are under attack.
"We should continue to perpetuate the stereotypical white supremicist arguement disguised as intellectual arguement in order to elevate individual liberty because lumping everyone into groups along demographic lines is inherrent to the mindset of individuals and their perceived ideologies." -racist shill
You're wrong about taking socialism if it meant less black people doing black people things. Socialism creates a worse culture. I'd rather have freedom and a bunch of people committing crimes then slavery and a safer society.
I agree with you that the truth about race matters but trying to suggest socialism is ever good is a joke.
You aren't going to have freedom in a society where a bunch of people are committing crimes, Lol. First of all, even if you have small government, you still don't have the freedom to walk around safely at night, to take your kids out places. But secondly, as one of the Founders said, "this constitution is only fit for a morally righteous citizenry. It is not fit for any other group of people." Freedom and small government is not compatible with large swaths of a population that disregard the law, no matter what they look like.
Fair point but I believe I have a better shot at freedom in a society where the people who stand in my way of freedom of street thugs. Against those people I can find like minded people myself to form a group of virtuous men to counter. When it's the government who oppresses the people, it is almost impossible to rise up against the government.
The USA for sure. Race isn't the problem. Look at NZ. They're a hellhole but almost all the same race.
Communism is a far bigger problem than black people. Communists use racial divisions to push communism on society. The problem is communism. Race issues are just a symptom of the problem. I'd never want to live in a socialist country like Norway. I'd rather be forced to carry a gun and defend myself against black street gangs than live in a socialist country.
In the US, the libertarian and republican parties are both dominated by whites. If the minority vote was even 50/50, we would completely blow them out every time. But it's not, and the demographics are going to continue to bend to the leftists advantage. They are openly demonizing whites while we are the majority. What do you think our kids and grandkids will be facing as the minority, when a Republican can also never win an election strictly based on demographics alone?
Take a look at all other western countries. They voted for communism without demographics playing against them.
The USA has a demographics problems because the powers at play realized that would be the easiest area to exploit but had the USA been a white only country, they would have simply found another avenue to exploit other than race demographics. Feminism for example has wrecked havoc on society and white women are the worst when it comes to feminism. Only something like 55% of whites voted for Trump. That's hardly a commanding lead. The academic indoctrination is working regardless of race.
This is a good argument, but it still doesn't really change the equation. We need to take steps to reduce immigration and to deport people, as overwhelming majorities of POC's in this country will turn the blind eye to white genocide within the next generation if we allow it to continue.
Blacks in Nigeria aren't liberal. It's because blacks in the USA have been systematically programmed into being liberals for generations.
Race matters but communism is an evil that can take on onto any race and I'd rather fall a group of black people who aren't communists my brother than white people who are communist.
Here is a truth about race:
White – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa.
https://www.census.gov/topics/population/race/about.html
Enjoy!
I'm glad the shill got deleted, but you have a point. White is largely a social construct. There's a massive difference between Anglo Saxons, Nordics, Mediterraneans, Spainiards,and mixes of all of the above between each other and also with the native peoples of their lands (Indians, Moors, etc) so to try to lump multiple races and cultures under one color nomenclature when the skin colors aren't even uniform is ridiculous , The real issue is the storm front types want "white" to be only Anglo and Nordic. They can't stand the idea of Jews or Hispanics being considered white. Even though the majority of Israelis. Persians, and Syrians are white Skinned, and literally some Hispanics are 100% white and all are at least 25-50% white genetically (and just tan easier because of the genetic makeup
Still, we did good work, glad to see this guys division tactics fail here.
This means browns are white (Middle East)
:D
Oops, looks like my facts hurt someone(s) feelings
SALLLLLT
But they aren't. Just because the US census makes ridiculous categorizations doesn't make something true. The US government also says that rising prices is not inflation. They change definitions just like the leftists change definitions.
Ah but the census decides what the fake news, normies, and commies digest.
For instance, we're the "majority" race. Which includes Middle East, Asians, North Africans, and Europeans.
Are all of those races considered white, beyond the data used to call us a majority? Is Omar claiming to be white, like the census says she is?
Exactly. And then it also affects the reporting of crime statistics.
I think we're arguing the same point then. Race optics are based on data compiled using faulty methods. Much like our current election mess.
So there can be only one "truth" about race, it's based on faulty data.
Libertarians are also racially homogeneous, with nearly all (94 percent) libertarians identifying as non-Hispanic whites.
Non-Hispanic whites accounted for 89% of Republican self-identifiers nationwide in 2012
https://news.gallup.com/poll/160373/democrats-racially-diverse-republicans-mostly-white.aspx
"The big picture: The numbers simply do not lie. America, as a whole, and swing states, in particular, are growing more diverse, more quickly. There is no way Republicans can change birth rates or curb this trend — and there's not a single demographic megatrend that favors Republicans."
https://www.axios.com/republican-party-demographics-threat-trump-racism-1524a8a1-c2f1-4183-896f-107420e2d50a.html
Bottom line.... if the country is not majority white, the country will become majority communist-hate America-democrat. It's just a reality of the numbers. I have open arms to anyone, of any color, that supports freedom and liberty. But as a matter of policy, we need to address the demographic change and reverse it, quickly.
Another thing to point out is the pragmatic outlook on it. As of right now, non-whites don't seem too on board with Enlightenment values based on voting patterns, like you highlighted. How does one reconcile that, with trying to change their mind?
That's not a bad idea, but the issue is that requires change over generations. They're having more and more children, while the demographics that follow classical Liberal values are having less, meaning they become a majority in less than 20 years. Then any leverage or one would have to convince them is out the window, since they're the ones with the power at that point.
And that's on top of being weaponized against you. We saw this EXACT same scenario play out in South Africa and Rhodesia. Those countries were test runs.
This is why the Democrats fight so hard for mass immigration, both illegal and legal. Bring in boatloads of people who want social programs, have high ethnocentrism and in-group preference, and who generally don't give much of a shit what the Founding Fathers wanted for this country.
I wouldn't go that Machiavellian approach. I think it's just something to shine light on and be honest about. What you're suggesting to me kind of explains the far left's preoccupation with 'helping' black people while simultaneously supporting everything that hurts them. It seems to me, they went the route you're suggesting. And I think if we look at how they've unraveled, it's a tree that bears toxic fruit.
That being said, I don't know what the "good" solution is. Mass deportations were tried in Nazi Germany, and it didn't end so well for anyone. I completely agree with shutting down the border and deporting anyone that is currently here illegally. I think we might be able to rally people to support deporting Chinese, especially any that have connection to CCP. But as far as everyone else, I don't see where you can find a solution that won't lead to disastrous responses from everyone.
The truth about race is that it doesn’t fucking matter. MAGA comes in all colors. Sadly, so too does communism.
This reads like leftist bait trying to prove MAGAs are secretly white supremacists
Read his entire post history, freaking handshake account posting stormfag vanguard bullshit. I'm not good enough at shittalk to reply to him the way he deserves it. Anaconda, please come shut this fag up. I'm deport buttoning every single one of these posts by him.. If he was a year long member and he wasn't always spewing crap like this and calling Trump an idiot I'd let it slide. This is proof we are under attack.
"We should continue to perpetuate the stereotypical white supremicist arguement disguised as intellectual arguement in order to elevate individual liberty because lumping everyone into groups along demographic lines is inherrent to the mindset of individuals and their perceived ideologies." -racist shill
You're wrong about taking socialism if it meant less black people doing black people things. Socialism creates a worse culture. I'd rather have freedom and a bunch of people committing crimes then slavery and a safer society.
I agree with you that the truth about race matters but trying to suggest socialism is ever good is a joke.
You aren't going to have freedom in a society where a bunch of people are committing crimes, Lol. First of all, even if you have small government, you still don't have the freedom to walk around safely at night, to take your kids out places. But secondly, as one of the Founders said, "this constitution is only fit for a morally righteous citizenry. It is not fit for any other group of people." Freedom and small government is not compatible with large swaths of a population that disregard the law, no matter what they look like.
Fair point but I believe I have a better shot at freedom in a society where the people who stand in my way of freedom of street thugs. Against those people I can find like minded people myself to form a group of virtuous men to counter. When it's the government who oppresses the people, it is almost impossible to rise up against the government.
The USA for sure. Race isn't the problem. Look at NZ. They're a hellhole but almost all the same race.
Communism is a far bigger problem than black people. Communists use racial divisions to push communism on society. The problem is communism. Race issues are just a symptom of the problem. I'd never want to live in a socialist country like Norway. I'd rather be forced to carry a gun and defend myself against black street gangs than live in a socialist country.
And so too do white people. Look at NZ. Look at the college liberal whites.
Race isn't the underlying problem. Communism is.
In the US, the libertarian and republican parties are both dominated by whites. If the minority vote was even 50/50, we would completely blow them out every time. But it's not, and the demographics are going to continue to bend to the leftists advantage. They are openly demonizing whites while we are the majority. What do you think our kids and grandkids will be facing as the minority, when a Republican can also never win an election strictly based on demographics alone?
Take a look at all other western countries. They voted for communism without demographics playing against them.
The USA has a demographics problems because the powers at play realized that would be the easiest area to exploit but had the USA been a white only country, they would have simply found another avenue to exploit other than race demographics. Feminism for example has wrecked havoc on society and white women are the worst when it comes to feminism. Only something like 55% of whites voted for Trump. That's hardly a commanding lead. The academic indoctrination is working regardless of race.
This is a good argument, but it still doesn't really change the equation. We need to take steps to reduce immigration and to deport people, as overwhelming majorities of POC's in this country will turn the blind eye to white genocide within the next generation if we allow it to continue.
Blacks in Nigeria aren't liberal. It's because blacks in the USA have been systematically programmed into being liberals for generations.
Race matters but communism is an evil that can take on onto any race and I'd rather fall a group of black people who aren't communists my brother than white people who are communist.