The US actually has the best population growth of basically any Western nation. The West needs to have babies fast, or the economy collapses.
This is not even about race, its economics. Europe is expected to have an economic meltdown after their Boomers start retiring, The US has a few extra decades since our Boomers had the Millennial generation.
Correct. More people come to the US. Ethnicity aside, just the fact that people move here and the fact that we'll have a young population compared to all other nations will prevent the economy from collapsing.
I made a post on how the white minority narrative is wrong, and why whites will likely remain a majority into 2100 and beyond.
I do not see a birthrate that would support your assertion. Not one bit.
And it's not all money, although money is a big part.
But if it were money, the wealthy would have lots of children. They have lots of tennis rackets but they do not have a proportionally greater number of children in keeping with their greater possession of other things.
Famous celebrities under fifty have NO children. Merkel, Macron, have no children. Those people can certainly afford children. Nannies, college, all of it.
I said immigration would end up buoying the US population. The US is expected to hit 400 million by 2100 and keep growing. Europe is expected to decline, as is East Asia,
My personal ideas for how to boost the birthrate would be encouraging baby making through tax cuts, and probably subsidies and free parenting classes. I'm hoping automation could help fix it, but I can't rely on that alone.
Worst come to worst illegalize condoms and watch the birthrate skyrocket.
Whites are already the minority among children in the USA. When Millennials are in their 60s, they will be the last majority-White (and just barely a majority!) generation in America (barring a drastic change in immigration patterns and White birth rates).
Most Hispanics in the USA are mixed race - usually a blend of Native American and European, but also African (depending on where in Latin America their ancestors come from). Some Hispanics are pure blooded Native Americans or Africans. Only a small number are pure blooded Europeans.
Genetics is generally a mess, there's no specific set of DNA that makes you white or Hispanic or whatnot. There are markers, but they're shared among multiple groups, and they're not always clear.
That being said, if they look white and act white... Then for all practical purposes, aren't they white? Currently, about 53% of them identify as white, but they're listed as Hispanic due to the origins of either them, or one of their relatives.
LOL, you don't know what you're talking about! Europeans - just like Asians and Africans - absolutely DO have a specific set of DNA.
You have to understand the history and culture of Latin American nations - claiming European ancestry gave you socio-economic benefits, so many Hispanics identify as European, even if their ancestry is predominantly Native American and/or African.
There are only a handful of countries in Latin America that have significant European-descended populations - notably Uruguay and Argentina. Most are overwhelmingly mixed race. Bolivia is majority indigenous Native American (62%)' Guatemala is not far behind at 42% indigenous.
There are patterns and certain characteristics, but no clear boundaries on where one race ends and one begins. 62% isn't "overwhelmingly", and the fact that those two are the best examples you can find isn't promising. If Guatamela is overwhelmingly indigenous then Illinois is overwhelmingly Republican.
Mexico is about 40% white Hispanic by the latest data I could find.
But having only two is nice certainly fine, but, more is what you need.
Because in any family there are always people who don't have any children. If the ones who do, don't have more than two, that population will decline. If that happens repeatedly, over say three generations, it will start to disappear.
I agree with the birthrate comment in general. Not for whites but more for the Western world as a whole. My hope is when automation kicks in and everyone's stuck at home all day birthrates skyrocket and we have another baby boom.
Personally I'm more concerned about the de-Christianization of the nation.
De-Christianization and low birthrate are linked, intertwined things.
Women saw a de-Christianized situation where they could be abandoned and were, in droves. The divorce boom was unbelievable right after the Sixties. The new values were "do what feels good" and at first that meant everybody had their arm around somebody. Then it became obvious what came with that: nobody had to stick around for the later, harder, parts of love: the Autumn that came after the Summer of Love. Toilet training, getting fatter from pregnancies, the need to go home instead of hanging out.
So, with no-fault divorce and no restrictions, no traditional values, women said, "Forget this," and stopped having children. The first nightmare was being divorced after two or three kids, with little employability, and getting thrown a bit of alimony but having to face raising the kids alone. Or with their father visiting. But it was a nightmare compared to just not getting into child rearing in the first place.
A big piece was the girl's mother, who said or implied, "Don't make the mistake I made. By having you."
The second nightmare came later, and that was the man's. The women had absorbed the new values so well that they learned how to use the system, too. The men discovered they could be got rid of, too.
Birthrates may rise when people are home. But birthrates tend to fall when people truly don't want children, and that is cultural, not financial.
The Americans and Westerners have been dressing like people of no account for decades. Dress. It matters.
When you wear any rags, and your rags say cutesy things on the front, and you think that ripped and torn jeans are cute instead of just plain damaged, you are saying, "Conquer me. I am nothing. I am a little slave."
That kind of clothes did nothing good for traditional, Christian values you mention. They de-personalize the person. There is no dignity, and no assertion, and a tremendous passivity.
Start having kids boys. Lots of them.
The US actually has the best population growth of basically any Western nation. The West needs to have babies fast, or the economy collapses.
This is not even about race, its economics. Europe is expected to have an economic meltdown after their Boomers start retiring, The US has a few extra decades since our Boomers had the Millennial generation.
You are not looking at the population growth closely enough: it is mostly from people coming into the country.
More people want to come into the US than any other Western nation, that's all that is.
Correct. More people come to the US. Ethnicity aside, just the fact that people move here and the fact that we'll have a young population compared to all other nations will prevent the economy from collapsing.
I made a post on how the white minority narrative is wrong, and why whites will likely remain a majority into 2100 and beyond.
I do not see a birthrate that would support your assertion. Not one bit.
And it's not all money, although money is a big part.
But if it were money, the wealthy would have lots of children. They have lots of tennis rackets but they do not have a proportionally greater number of children in keeping with their greater possession of other things.
Famous celebrities under fifty have NO children. Merkel, Macron, have no children. Those people can certainly afford children. Nannies, college, all of it.
Bill Gates has three. Mark Zuckerberg has two.
I wish I agreed with you but I do not.
Thoughts? Can something be done?
I said immigration would end up buoying the US population. The US is expected to hit 400 million by 2100 and keep growing. Europe is expected to decline, as is East Asia,
My personal ideas for how to boost the birthrate would be encouraging baby making through tax cuts, and probably subsidies and free parenting classes. I'm hoping automation could help fix it, but I can't rely on that alone.
Worst come to worst illegalize condoms and watch the birthrate skyrocket.
Whites are already the minority among children in the USA. When Millennials are in their 60s, they will be the last majority-White (and just barely a majority!) generation in America (barring a drastic change in immigration patterns and White birth rates).
Most Hispanics in the USA are mixed race - usually a blend of Native American and European, but also African (depending on where in Latin America their ancestors come from). Some Hispanics are pure blooded Native Americans or Africans. Only a small number are pure blooded Europeans.
Genetics is generally a mess, there's no specific set of DNA that makes you white or Hispanic or whatnot. There are markers, but they're shared among multiple groups, and they're not always clear.
That being said, if they look white and act white... Then for all practical purposes, aren't they white? Currently, about 53% of them identify as white, but they're listed as Hispanic due to the origins of either them, or one of their relatives.
LOL, you don't know what you're talking about! Europeans - just like Asians and Africans - absolutely DO have a specific set of DNA.
You have to understand the history and culture of Latin American nations - claiming European ancestry gave you socio-economic benefits, so many Hispanics identify as European, even if their ancestry is predominantly Native American and/or African.
There are only a handful of countries in Latin America that have significant European-descended populations - notably Uruguay and Argentina. Most are overwhelmingly mixed race. Bolivia is majority indigenous Native American (62%)' Guatemala is not far behind at 42% indigenous.
There are patterns and certain characteristics, but no clear boundaries on where one race ends and one begins. 62% isn't "overwhelmingly", and the fact that those two are the best examples you can find isn't promising. If Guatamela is overwhelmingly indigenous then Illinois is overwhelmingly Republican. Mexico is about 40% white Hispanic by the latest data I could find.
But where is the birthrate?
Having any children at all is an achievement.
But having only two is nice certainly fine, but, more is what you need.
Because in any family there are always people who don't have any children. If the ones who do, don't have more than two, that population will decline. If that happens repeatedly, over say three generations, it will start to disappear.
I agree with the birthrate comment in general. Not for whites but more for the Western world as a whole. My hope is when automation kicks in and everyone's stuck at home all day birthrates skyrocket and we have another baby boom.
Personally I'm more concerned about the de-Christianization of the nation.
De-Christianization and low birthrate are linked, intertwined things.
Women saw a de-Christianized situation where they could be abandoned and were, in droves. The divorce boom was unbelievable right after the Sixties. The new values were "do what feels good" and at first that meant everybody had their arm around somebody. Then it became obvious what came with that: nobody had to stick around for the later, harder, parts of love: the Autumn that came after the Summer of Love. Toilet training, getting fatter from pregnancies, the need to go home instead of hanging out.
So, with no-fault divorce and no restrictions, no traditional values, women said, "Forget this," and stopped having children. The first nightmare was being divorced after two or three kids, with little employability, and getting thrown a bit of alimony but having to face raising the kids alone. Or with their father visiting. But it was a nightmare compared to just not getting into child rearing in the first place.
A big piece was the girl's mother, who said or implied, "Don't make the mistake I made. By having you."
The second nightmare came later, and that was the man's. The women had absorbed the new values so well that they learned how to use the system, too. The men discovered they could be got rid of, too.
Birthrates may rise when people are home. But birthrates tend to fall when people truly don't want children, and that is cultural, not financial.
You have put your finger on it. Values.
Let me just mention a second idea.
The Americans and Westerners have been dressing like people of no account for decades. Dress. It matters.
When you wear any rags, and your rags say cutesy things on the front, and you think that ripped and torn jeans are cute instead of just plain damaged, you are saying, "Conquer me. I am nothing. I am a little slave."
That kind of clothes did nothing good for traditional, Christian values you mention. They de-personalize the person. There is no dignity, and no assertion, and a tremendous passivity.