That's the plan. Stop the Dems, expose the Dems, and then in 2024, Pence/Rudy/DeSantis/Noem join the exclusive club of back-to-back party presidents, except unlike Taft, Hoover, and Bush Sr., they won't be complete failures.
If Trump loses Pence will also get the Kangaroo court treatment and wind up jailed for life or dead. The people they're up against are every bit as nasty as the mafia, and likely then some.
Yes, think about it. SCOTUS could not have done anything even if they had hear the case. The Constitution says that the state legislatures are the ones who pick the electors, so if SCOTUS ruled the election tainted, their only Constitional remedy would be to tell the state legislatures, hey don't trust your popular vote tallies when you pick your electors but you still have the right to pick whoever you want.
The "brawl in congress on the 6th" scenario was always the most likely one. People got their hopes up in the Texas suit because the Supreme Court could have tied this all up in a neat bow and saved us all a lot of headaches and risk.
Enough info has to come out to get the state legislatures over the line, though, and our Chi-crats will fight that every step of the way.
Doesn't Pence also have the power to choose whichever slate of electors he wants if two are submitted? Which means Trump could get to 270 right then. And the Supreme Court is making it pretty clear that they want to stay out of this, so I don't think there is much anyone could do about it.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. It's all so confusing lol
That's the correct form of the "brawl on the 6th" scenario. It requires state legislatures to submit their own slate of electors so that there are two options.
A bunch of them seem to still be struggling to read this you-ess cone-stay-two-shone thing that kids are on about these days (it's the first they've heard of it, you see). But they've got until the 5th to get someone to explain it to them in small words.
The only situation where there would be a single slate that gets decertified is if the ODNI report is such a blockbuster that the nation as a whole is ready to revolt otherwise, and that would require pretty miraculous levels of evidence. And at that point the state legislatures would surely have acted.
This theory is a bit "Bernie can still win", except for the fact that everyone on both sides is sure as hell acting like this isn't over. And since it's not over, the question remains why Trump thinks he can win and everyone is acting like he's right. The 6th is the most obvious mechanism remaining for this to happen.
There are huuuuuge differences between Bernie and Trump. Bernie was/is a powerless shill working for the DNC. He wasn't ever supposed to win. Trump is POTUS with the terrifying powers that come with that position. He's smart enough and ruthless enough to use all those powers. Better still, he's genius tier out side the box thinker/strategist so he'll use those powers in unexpected ways. Trump has always intended to win. He's fighting for everything he loves. He knows the fight is to the death. There will be only one victor. Us. Trump is the fighter Bernie bros wanted Bernie to be. They were too naive to understand Bernie would have been crushed if he tried to fight. Trump will win for ALL of us, including the haters.
the Supreme Court could have tied this all up in a neat bow and saved us all a lot of headaches and risk.
Those cowardly fucking pieces of shit punted. They have lifetime appointments specifically so they can make the tough decisions and not get voted out of office for them, and they fucking punted.
We're not fighting for Trump. Trump is fighting for us. We are fighting for ourselves and our descendants. All the parties you mentioned don't want to fight for America. That wouldn't change, no matter who our leader was.
I think people over estimate the states’ legislatures willingness to take their power back and give electoral votes to Trump. They have proven to be incredibly spineless like our judiciary
Here is the process to challenge a state's electors during the January 6, 2021 Joint Session of Congress where the electoral votes are officially counted:
One Representative and one Senator must submit a written objection to the President of the Senate (VP Pence).
The Joint Session then breaks up and the objection is debated separately by the House and Senate in their respective chambers.
The House and Senate each vote on the objection. The objection is sustained or rejected by a majority vote.
Both the House and Senate must vote to sustain the objection or the state's electors are counted.
If a state's electors are rejected, most believe that state's electoral votes are to be subtracted from the total of 538 and the winner is the candidate with a majority of the remaining number. For example, if PA's 20 electors are rejected, 260 which is the majority of 518 (538-20) becomes the winning number. Under this interpretation of the rules, the only situation where the House would choose the President and the Senate would choose the VP is a tie electoral vote.
As much as I'd like this to be true, anything from 4chan immediately loses virtually all credibility.
To date, other than maybe Nevada, which is only 6 EC votes, there is no evidence that any of the other states are going to send their electors. In fact MI and PA said they CAN'T because the power was delegated to the SOS.
I would prefer this or a similar route, basically anything without SCOTUS. I think SCOTUS is compromised. It's a bottleneck of a few select people easy to control, threaten, infect or even kill.
But what about the 26-ish states? Do they have the ounce of spine needed to get with the program? I don't doubt that Pence would vote to save his own job, but we're relying on the same cowards who have consistently spat in our faces recently
The only part it got wrong was that it either has to be a tie 269-269 or too messy to figure out who won(multiple slates, fraud etc.) for congress to have to decide. I think the second would have to be the case.
The question is: Will multiple slates of electors be sent?
And
Does Pence have the balls?
Likely and fuck yes he does!
Isn't this is motion in Nevada?
yhup
Pense is guided by God he will
The hand of God?
Manus Celer Dei
We Are, my friend We Are
If Pence does this, and runs in 2024 he will be my top pick even if Rudy runs.
How will Pence or any opponent of the Dems win if this current steal is not stopped? It will just happen again in 2024 and beyond.
That's the plan. Stop the Dems, expose the Dems, and then in 2024, Pence/Rudy/DeSantis/Noem join the exclusive club of back-to-back party presidents, except unlike Taft, Hoover, and Bush Sr., they won't be complete failures.
Rudy i think is to old he would be like 80 in 2024
Fair point, I've just been saying that if he does run he'll have my full support for everything he's doing right now.
Rudy needs to be trumps AG
If Trump loses Pence will also get the Kangaroo court treatment and wind up jailed for life or dead. The people they're up against are every bit as nasty as the mafia, and likely then some.
They are the Mafia its not a coincidence that every arrested mobster was a democrat ALSO Nancy Pelosi's father was a New York mobster.
If he is a patriot he would do it if he had everything to lose. This is for all the marbles. Stakes are high.
His life...
If Pence keeps fighting for Trump, my bets are he will become president after Trump.
the Silver Fox
Pence has Trumps back
I hope not in the same way Kavanagh and ACB had
Unless it was part of The Plan?
Losing is never part of the plan.
Yes, think about it. SCOTUS could not have done anything even if they had hear the case. The Constitution says that the state legislatures are the ones who pick the electors, so if SCOTUS ruled the election tainted, their only Constitional remedy would be to tell the state legislatures, hey don't trust your popular vote tallies when you pick your electors but you still have the right to pick whoever you want.
There is no plan, you should know it by now
Their ruling only said that Texas was either jumping the gun or not the correct party to file. Nothing more or less.
I read it more logically, "If -> Then." Not, "If something happens then ..."
[OP's joking, not dooming, to everyone concerned.]
DOOOOOMERRRR
It has two ifs. One is a direct quote from Trump on Sept 26.
The "brawl in congress on the 6th" scenario was always the most likely one. People got their hopes up in the Texas suit because the Supreme Court could have tied this all up in a neat bow and saved us all a lot of headaches and risk.
Enough info has to come out to get the state legislatures over the line, though, and our Chi-crats will fight that every step of the way.
you're missing that there could be a situation with competing electors. Two slates sent from certain states.
Then no candidate gets to 270. And contingent election, Congress, one vote per state.
You're right though, we don't have Congress, so we couldn't reject electoral votes outright.
Doesn't Pence also have the power to choose whichever slate of electors he wants if two are submitted? Which means Trump could get to 270 right then. And the Supreme Court is making it pretty clear that they want to stay out of this, so I don't think there is much anyone could do about it.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. It's all so confusing lol
That's the correct form of the "brawl on the 6th" scenario. It requires state legislatures to submit their own slate of electors so that there are two options.
A bunch of them seem to still be struggling to read this you-ess cone-stay-two-shone thing that kids are on about these days (it's the first they've heard of it, you see). But they've got until the 5th to get someone to explain it to them in small words.
The only situation where there would be a single slate that gets decertified is if the ODNI report is such a blockbuster that the nation as a whole is ready to revolt otherwise, and that would require pretty miraculous levels of evidence. And at that point the state legislatures would surely have acted.
This theory is a bit "Bernie can still win", except for the fact that everyone on both sides is sure as hell acting like this isn't over. And since it's not over, the question remains why Trump thinks he can win and everyone is acting like he's right. The 6th is the most obvious mechanism remaining for this to happen.
Agreed! Very insightful comment
There are huuuuuge differences between Bernie and Trump. Bernie was/is a powerless shill working for the DNC. He wasn't ever supposed to win. Trump is POTUS with the terrifying powers that come with that position. He's smart enough and ruthless enough to use all those powers. Better still, he's genius tier out side the box thinker/strategist so he'll use those powers in unexpected ways. Trump has always intended to win. He's fighting for everything he loves. He knows the fight is to the death. There will be only one victor. Us. Trump is the fighter Bernie bros wanted Bernie to be. They were too naive to understand Bernie would have been crushed if he tried to fight. Trump will win for ALL of us, including the haters.
This isn't a time for conspiracy theories about Trump somehow not getting in. Let the men talk.
They are all a bunch of pussies
fait accompli
We need to keep pressuring legislatures. AZ and GA are both close to cracking.
Those cowardly fucking pieces of shit punted. They have lifetime appointments specifically so they can make the tough decisions and not get voted out of office for them, and they fucking punted.
Exactly. This is what Powell has been doing. Bringing reciepts all this time.
Let them view Pence counting from 60 feet away, with the ballots not facing them. Then shred them immediately. Then he can them Trump won.
water main break!
Fuck it lets kick it old school and have the dueling electors actually duel. Surviving electors decide
I don’t see any of those happening. Call me a doomer but I just don’t see it
We're not fighting for Trump. Trump is fighting for us. We are fighting for ourselves and our descendants. All the parties you mentioned don't want to fight for America. That wouldn't change, no matter who our leader was.
Weird because a few days ago half of the United States was headed to the Supreme Court siding with Trump. Guess we’re dooming now though.
THIS MAN STARED DOWN THE FUCKING SUN
You realize you are the biggest tik toker on tdw?
Tik tok
I think people over estimate the states’ legislatures willingness to take their power back and give electoral votes to Trump. They have proven to be incredibly spineless like our judiciary
Not accurate.
Here is the process to challenge a state's electors during the January 6, 2021 Joint Session of Congress where the electoral votes are officially counted:
One Representative and one Senator must submit a written objection to the President of the Senate (VP Pence).
The Joint Session then breaks up and the objection is debated separately by the House and Senate in their respective chambers.
The House and Senate each vote on the objection. The objection is sustained or rejected by a majority vote.
Both the House and Senate must vote to sustain the objection or the state's electors are counted.
If a state's electors are rejected, most believe that state's electoral votes are to be subtracted from the total of 538 and the winner is the candidate with a majority of the remaining number. For example, if PA's 20 electors are rejected, 260 which is the majority of 518 (538-20) becomes the winning number. Under this interpretation of the rules, the only situation where the House would choose the President and the Senate would choose the VP is a tie electoral vote.
As much as I'd like this to be true, anything from 4chan immediately loses virtually all credibility.
To date, other than maybe Nevada, which is only 6 EC votes, there is no evidence that any of the other states are going to send their electors. In fact MI and PA said they CAN'T because the power was delegated to the SOS.
4chan Larpies
We are assuming the report on Dec 18th isn't garbage for all this to fall in place. Just sick of seeing everyone turn on Trump when he needs them.
Reports don't just magically appear.
They know 98% of what's what's in it by now I'm sure.
🤞
More "trust the plan" from the chans.
I hate reading these can you copy and paste into a readable formant instead of a copy of 4 chan
Srsly I have to swipe back and forth and back and forth for every goddamned line ffs
Now we just need the state legislatures to do the right thing. Better not turn traitors like the Supreme Court.
I would prefer this or a similar route, basically anything without SCOTUS. I think SCOTUS is compromised. It's a bottleneck of a few select people easy to control, threaten, infect or even kill.
Out of all the Trump appointments and selections, Pence has been the most solid.
Gey kek_saved_the_world.. You realize you have your own .win now right?!
The constitution is worth fighting for. Tomorrow is maximum media propaganda designed to discourage and demoralize.
Next Friday we find out our country is at war and the enemy will be named. Keep your powder dry and hold the line.
Do you think the states have the balls to switch their vote from Biden to Trump - especially MI, WI, PA, GA, AZ, NV? They are full of RINO's
But what about the 26-ish states? Do they have the ounce of spine needed to get with the program? I don't doubt that Pence would vote to save his own job, but we're relying on the same cowards who have consistently spat in our faces recently
They should stuff the ballot and claim it was a glitch
It's my understanding that the Electoral Count Act wouldn't give this level of discretionary authority to the VP.
It does give an opportunity for congress to dispute though.
Read up on the Electoral Count Act and the 1876 election if you wanna learn more of the context around this.
Hope and pray that you're correct. But ill believe it when I see it.
All up to Pence
McConnel has balls? Yeah this is a larp.
The only part it got wrong was that it either has to be a tie 269-269 or too messy to figure out who won(multiple slates, fraud etc.) for congress to have to decide. I think the second would have to be the case.
That gives me encouragement.
i CAN'T WAIT TO JOIN TRUMPS RWDS TO MAKE THE COMMIES AND DEEP STATE GOOD
This is great stuff. Everything is within the realm of possibility here, not your typical 4chin larp
I don't see anywhere in the U.S. Constitution that describes the Vice President as having the power to deny electoral votes.
What are they staring at? Aliens?
Solar eclipse in 2017 I believe.
Assuming Pence plays ball. Barr abandoned Trump...there are traitors to the MAGA movement everywhere. Pence might be one of them...
I want to win because truth comes out, not because of law-fu tricks.
But I'll take what I can get right now.
BUCKLE THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pence hasn't exactly been quiet it just doesn't get a lot of traction when posted here: https://streamable.com/yrjm7a
So Pence says "denied", do you really think words have any weight anymore? Election fraud evidence is immediately turned in baseless claims.
I wish there were a "LARP" tag
This is utter LARP shit and OP should have been banned months ago for spamming garbage like this.
https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1607894283162.png