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Verrerogo 3 points ago +6 / -3

The old dread diseases are rare now, because of mass vaccination. That's why the Amish don't get them. They also keep to themselves.

That is the OLD VACCINES.

This newfangled stuff is another matter.

We do not need to abandon ALL vaccines. The dread childhood diseases are not entirely extinct. There are indeed measles outbreaks, and they do kill. Other stuff too. Whooping cough kills. Nobody needs a polio resurgence.

The old ones, the standard basic ones, are good. People used to lose at least half their children. This was absolutely normal.

Nothing to do with this current issue.

And as for the RNA vaccines, that is very new, and works completely differently.

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NelsC 7 points ago +7 / -0

Current polio vaccines have been the cause of current polio outbreaks.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/polio-outbreak-sudan-caused-oral-vaccine-72766683

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/contaminated-vaccines-put-indias-polio-free-status-at-risk/articleshow/66021197.cms

If they can get this right after 60 years, maybe we should rethink the idea of vaccines.

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Verrerogo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Good manufacturing will always be an issue. If they don't always get it right that does NOT mean the product is worthless. It means it should be made right.

I hope these vital drugs, vaccines, are made in the US. I don't know.

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NelsC 2 points ago +2 / -0

"Should be" ? Voting machines should be honest. Merck should have been honest about Vioxx. Fauci should be honest and stop flip flopping about whether HCQ works and is safe, or not, about masks being needed and safe or not.

The world doesn't seem to work that way: https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-13-merck-covid19-vaccines-biohazard-nightmare-feces-filth.html

If the process sucks, the product will suck. Deming 101. Our processes were designed for a high trust society. We are no longer there.