If war is necessary, we will be called upon and led by someone with experience who understands its costs, not by some nameless angry people who can't keep a cool head.
We all want the traitors to pay, but it's not time for the fourth box yet. Train. Lift. Run. Do what you have to in order to get your emotions in check.
But understand this: You aren't ready and neither are we. Your impulsiveness will get you and others killed. Let the legal process play out and wait for the call. If it's necessary, it will come, and we will answer.
I can respect a good LARP
Larp.win?
InMinecraft.win
What am I going to do with all this ammo?
This is a legitimate issue that I am facing as well. :D
practice.
On who?
Find an IDPA match in your area.
The war starts when it needs to, not when we say we're ready. If you continue to counsel caution and patience, and playing out process versus action, you are blunting the very rage needed to achieve our ends. If you worry about timing, casualties, optics, and political ramifications, remember that as Supreme Commander of Union forces, George B. McClellan did, too. And he very nearly cost the Union its victory over the Confederacy.
You are exactly the kind of clownshoes dope the OP is talking about. Trying to compare 19th century Civil War America that had 1/10th the population, no mass media, no internet, no just-in-time inventory, and black powder weapons, with what's going on now, is the one of the more obtuse things I've seen written on this site.
Civil War means civil collapse. No more utilities, no more grocery stores, no more free wifi at starbucks. Stop being stupid. Go play some Call of Duty if you want to shoot the evildoers.
Nonsense! Have you even studied military history?? Civil war does not result in civil collapse, otherwise troops on both sides would've starved long before they ever began to score victories. It doesn't mean civil collapse now, either. Infrastructure, transportation and food distribution are still critical unless one is deliberately aiming at genocide. People have to be fed, housed and clothed if they are to fight.
We have better technology than 19th c. combattants; they had better technology than 18th c. combattants; who, in their turn, had better technology than 17th c. combattants. Changing technology does not mean changing strategy, tactics, logistics, or even the human intellect. If that were the case, there'd be absolutely no use to studying the the Civil War, the Napoleonic Wars, the 100 Years' War, the Punic Wars, or even the Persian Wars at war colleges today, which they do, intensively. There'd be no sense in our continuing regard for military manuals like Sun Tzu's Art of War, because it would simply be a curious relic.
I understand if you're frightened by the prospect of war, but think of it as diplomacy by other means. All it proves is that the combattants are serious enough to press their claims beyond the endless talk, talk, talk-stage of negotiation.
Yes, I've studied all kinds of history. You don't seem to understand how things work now, today in the 21st century, and think you can explain away 150 years of difference by rattling off a bunch of nouns.
Have you studied anything besides military history?
"Oh, well, you must be frightened then."
I take it you're some armchair warrior whose never seen actual violence. What a joke.
I'm not sure I understand where all your hostility and condescension is coming from. We have a difference of opinion on the the nature of warfare and its applicability to the US right now as our rights are being trampled openly, brazenly, right before our eyes.
If you would prefer to roll over and go back to sleep, and hope the left will somehow leave you alone, after being thus emboldened by your inaction, I wish you good luck. You'll need it. As for me, I'm in my 60s. I've lived in socialist shitholes. I've witnessed public hangings by brutalist states.
I've travelled extensively throughout the Iron Curtain countries and in the Soviet Union. And I'm here to tell you I'd rather die than endure the twilight wraithdom that comes with being a thrall of a communist dictatorship. No life thus lived has any meaning; it's one stripped of all it's dignity and humanity. You see the mask mandates--that's the least of what they have planned.
I would rather die, and I will take as many of them with me as I go...and I have had decades to think about it.
My hostility and condescension stems from observing people calling for violence when they have zero idea what's involved or what the consequences will be. It stems from humans who claim great knowledge and experience taking the child-like binary perception that you can only fight, or forever be enslaved. It stems from grown adults having all this time to gain perspective, and having none.
There won't be any "communist dictatorship." Most people posting on this site have already sacrificed dignity and humanity for feudal corporate serfdom. They console themselves that they'll send their kids to college, or provide themselves new toys, or be able to afford comfort.
You, and way too many others here, seem to think that tyranny can only take one form. That it's incapable of being insidious, or subtle, or even comfortable.
"A gilded, gold cage is still a prison, bobf!"
Are you sure? Maybe the prison is in our minds. Thank goodness there are heroes, such as yourself, ready to lay down their lives and what limited time they have left in this reality for things they barely understand.
His mistake was doing so in the middle of an already hot war.
Our war isn't hot-yet.
It actually was at the beginning of the hot war. First Bull Run was a catastrophe because he was timid; the Union troops didn't want to fight or didn't know why they were even there; and, the Confederates were already full of righteous fire and laser-guided purpose. They slaughtered the Union troops and Washingtonians were appalled seeing the bedraggled and bloody men staggering back to the city.
you will not decide for me when to get involved...
By all means, then, lead the way
Hell no it won't, unless I find myself in a Kyle Rittenhouse-type position and have to fight my way out.
I'm not stupid.
Then get the fuck out, you fucking pussy. The Republic is under attack. Do something about it or fuck off.
Like you are?
What wave? what front line? this is exactly what he is talking about. Who exactly are you going to be fighting and where? This is how delusional this whole attitude is. Warfare isnt like that anymore. Think middle east. There is no front line. It is just tribes terrorizing each other with car bombs and shit. Not lines of troops marching to a battlefield.
Ya ignore what I just said, im doing the same.
This is correct. People are eager, and rightfully so, but you can’t just grab your gun and some buddies and march on Washington.
America has lots of gun owners. But we are facing a powerful deep state. They’ll control the police, they’ll try to control the military, they’ll have private security who are motivated only by money and it wouldn’t surprise me if they bring in foreign mercenaries to secure their power.
This isn’t north vs south with battle lines drawn up. This is asymmetric warfare. They’ll move to control the military hardware, they’ll wage information warfare that’ll make the current climate of censorship look like a walk in the park.
Can cheer on soldiers and support the deaths of over 2 million and destroy two countries cuz MUH WMDs and MUH PATRIOTISM
Actual threats you can see and months of domestic terrorism in your own country?
"Oh wait we can't rush this; it has to be absolutely necessary and you might get innocent people killed"
"We have to fight them over there so they aren't over here!"
Oh wait...they are already here?
trembles in fear and lets freedom get taken away
A bleep JOKE!
You doing anything about it?
Then go out and get it started
How brave of you to go dad mode on us while we witness the final stages of the enemy's plan to win without a single shot fired. Congrats. McStain would be proud.
You need to be angrier than you are.
Those nameless angry people are CIA agent provocateurs.
NUTS!
What do you think a war will look like? Two standing armies facing off? Probably not. It will probably be decentralized with small groups, or even individuals hitting very specific targets. Wouldn't even have to hit that many - just enough to put fear into the rest - Let them know there are dire consequences for effectively trying to enslave the American People.
I agree with you, but who has the intel as to the targets to hit? Who has the training & the repetitions in order to ensure successful operations?
The targets would be selected from those who perpetrated this fraud on the American people. As far as intel - people's entire lives are on the internet. By searching social media and doing simple background checks, you can find out where they live, where they have lived, where they work, the places they like to frequent, who their friends and family are, etc. As far as training, there are plenty of military and ex-military here, but anyone with the the willingness and basic skills would work. Most of these targets would be described as soft, rather than hard, so wouldn't need a team of commandos.. And again - not on a large scale. Just enough to communicate the message that this treachery will not be tolerated.
That's not what I'm saying when I tell people that the people need to organize to fight back for this country. People literally need to ORGANIZE. They need to get in touch and stay in communication with other Patriots. Have a plan and plan B. Have the necessary preparations complete. Have all the necessary gear. Get your head in the right place. Go on a diet or train if you need to get into shape.
If we are called into action, it will be a shit show unless people are prepared and well planned. If you aren't ready if shit went down this weekend, you're already too late. You don't need to spring in to action NOW, but you better be ready for it, like NOW. No excuses, no putting it off until the last minute. It's easy to gear up and hit the street, but without a plan and organization, it's almost worse than doing nothing.
Maybe nothing at all happens. Maybe something does. Shit is starting to get VERY hot with all the CCP stuff. It's better to be prepared and nothing happen than to not be and get caught with your pants down. It's just good to be prepared in general, not matter WHAT. The world is crazy these days. Seriously, shit that would make you say, "NO FUCKING WAY" if it happened 4 years ago, would make you say "meh, figures" if it happened tomorrow.
This I 100% agree with. Be the warrior in the garden, not the gardener in the war.
We’ll win but never fight, that’s the Art of War
I haven’t seen anyone call for war today. The other day yes, but not today
Yeah, it's Sunday.
Oh yeah
Veterans: we’ve been sent to the darkest shit holes to kill people that we do not know for people that we do not know. What do you think we are going to do when you try to overthrow our country? Cuck out on the couch? Waiting for some bs white night in a rigged court room to decide a rigged election?
What's the plan? When are we supposed to strike and how?
We must let the process play out.. Many more crazy things will happen in the near term. When and if the time comes let the professionals do their job. If they need us they will call upon us.
You don't know if anyone will call on it. This is another post calling for frogs to stay in the pot.
Waiting for a leader to call for war is how you lose and there never is a war. Once average people have banded together with other average people to rally in the street and start causing violence that is when a leader will show himself not before.
When the fighting starts, just look out for you and your neighbours, let the troops deal with the big stuff.
Can we deport this cuck right now?
Speaking as a veteran of 2 wars.
Your service is appreciated.
What's your plan?
Amen