Let's not get carried away dude. Putin is a dictator who has poisoned his opponents (though I wouldnt be surprised if someone else did that to poison the well)
Or it was MI6 who poisoned those people in the UK and in Russia. Just so you know rogue agents can run in any country. The West isn't safe either, looking at the mess in the Ukraine and Radical Islamic Mosques up and running.
Also literally immortal. There are photos of him from 1850 where he looks exactly the same. Probably.
Trump also won't age, whereas 4 yeas in the WH makes every other President age 10-15 years. So, Putin and Trump, alpha + alpha. Fuck the Swamp for driving an anti-Globalist ally into a partnership with China that's growing closer all the time. Next stop military alliance.
It's a nice idea in theory, but you simply cannot trust the Russians, even when your interests are perfectly in line. They just can't help but do stupid, dickish bullshit to prove their superiority.
This could also be why Kemp rigged the Georgia steal such that Perdue and Loeffler would win but Trump lose. Do they think we are dumb? 😂 Perdue win but Trump lose, lol in what world does that make sense. Are they all sucking on the CCP teat? We'll see if they certify the steal or not.
Putin is a KGB agent, for crying out loud.
There aren't former KGB agents.
Also under Putin the number of schools and hospitals literally halved and people have been leaving Russia in droves.
Also he's been rigging Russian elections since 2011.
Yea, I guess so. Although, he is credited righteously for saving Russia from the brink of disaster with the Chechnya War in the 90s and reviving the country with an economic boom and else during the 2000-2014 period ... before the nonsense in Ukraine happening.
Also, yes, Putin is a former KGB agent. However, he was neither top-ranked (e.g. stationed in Dresden as a Colonel) and he actually left the Communist Party in the early 90s being disgruntled with what they did to Yeltsin etc. He actually worked as a Cab Driver for a while, before coming back into Politics.
Oliver Stone has an interesting documentary on him.
Russian pede here.
I was very critical of Putin's policies. I could be considered liberal in around 2015. I still am critocal of his actions for some degree.
However, dome time back, even not knowing all that media and nwo shenanigans, I tried to speculate, how would I behave in Russia's political environment - with rampant corruption and hundreds of local tzars on their thrones in every oblast and russian republic. And actually I concluded that the very thing he did - creating a centralised governing body based on loyalty - would be my course of action. You cannot invoke the law when the country is lawless. you have to establish order first and enforce the law, hard way.
Putin's not perfect, but he wants Russia to have its own sovereignity and build up on our own. Note that there's almost none chinese capital in Russian top companies, and most of them are controlled directly or indirectly by Russian government. He keeps Russia intact.
That's true. But you cannot just jump through all the development steps of a country without experiencing and iternalizing them. Russia was cut from that growth process in 1917 when commies overtook the power, and what we are experiencing in Russia is a pendulum swang back. We are fast-forwarding through it, but it takes time to grow into a proper country. We will get there eventually.
Вы посмотрите на Росстат. Там все данные есть в открытом доступе же, и по-русски, и по-английски.
Вспомните "нарушения" на выборах: и бюллетени пачками в урны на видео, и статистический анализ, и 100% явка в ряде республик.
Ну централизовал он власть. И? Что-то поменялось к лучшему?
Пока только вот пенсионный возраст резко поднял.
давай я тебе взгляж с другой стороны покажу. ты мыслишь как потребитель привыкший к бесплатным услугам от государства. ничем не лучше чем черный в гетто сидящий на фудстампах. сейчас идет переход от социалистической модели к модели свободного рынка, поэтому медицина и образование (бесплатное ! sic ! ) тихонечко сворачивается и приносящие дохож их куски переходят в чатный сектор. никто не мешает поступить в частный вуз или купить дмс.
при этом огромная прлграмма господдержки рождаемости, и импортозамещение помаленьку начинает работать. аграрка и легкое прлизводство практически полностью русские. если ты не хочешб видеть позитив не значит что его нет. давай меньше ненависти, больше конструктива.
Во-первых, не надо этого амикошонства, я с вами на брудершафт не пил.
Во-вторых, откуда вы знаете, к чему собственно я привык и как я мыслю?
В-третьих, "sic" означает совсем не то, что вы думаете.
В-четвёртых, у вас с грамматикой и правописанием полная беда. Читать ваш опус очень тяжело.
В-пятых, ненависти? Простите, откуда такие выводы? С чего вы решили, что я кого-то ненавижу?
Ну и наконец в-шестых, по сути вопроса: "давай", как вы говорите, без голословных мнений, ладно?
Сельское хозяйство и лёгкая промышленность -- русские? Откуда цифры?
Иностранцам землёй в России владеть нельзя по закону, а вот контролировать -- пожалуйста, чем они успешно и занимаются.
Из 7.5М Га находящихся в собственности крупных предприятий (свыше 100К Га), на 2013й год лишь 5.3М были в собственности российских компаний, а остальные 2.2М (30%) управлялись иностранцами.
Касательно лёгкой промышленности, действительно, "во владении иностранных собственников находится 3,4% активов", однако "по сравнению с 2005 г. эта структура практически не изменилась" и "в легкую промышленность иностранные собственники особенно не стремятся в силу относительно низкой инвестиционной привлекательности отрасли."
Причём тут Путин?
Я вам порекомендовал ресурс, но вы, очевидно, им пренебрегли.
Что ж, вот документы, прямо из росстата: тут и про результаты поддержки рождаемости, и про импортозамещение, в частности, есть.
Буду по-буржуйски, чтобы понятно было всем.
Here are some official stats from Rosstat (Russian Bureau of Statistics).
From 2000 to 2015, the number of hospitalsdecreased by 50%, and hospital beds by 27%.
From 2005 to 2016, the number of primary/secondary/high schoolsdecreased by 34%, the number of pupils who got a certificate of "general education" by 37%, and the number of teachers by 33%.
From 2000 to 2015, the birth index indeed increased from 1.195 to 1.777, but by 2019 it collapsed to 1.504, back to the level of 2008 (1.502).
How bad was Putin for Russia if his policies moved the country back 11 years -- back to 2008?
From 2000 to 2011, the number of emigrants continuously decreased from 145,720 to 36,774 (even in 2009 compared to 2008!), but in 2012 it jumped to 122,751 and by 2018 it reached 440,831.
Nearly half a million people leave Russia every year.
In comparison, the number of immigrants was relatively stable: in 2001 there were 193,450, in 2010 -- 191,656, and by 2019 it grew to 701,234.
Russians are being replaced. Doesn't sound like nationalism to me.
The Insider conducted a more elaborate analysis back in 2016.
This 2012-onwards trend can be seen in e.g. "purchase power".
In 2020, the median (across all categories of groceries) purchase powerdecreased by 10% compared to 2012, especially fish, grains, milk, butter, and tea.
Many heard about the "import replacement" Putin declared when he imposed the "counter-sanctions".
The idea being that once the competition is removed from the market, the niche is filled by the local farmers.
Well...
The rate of e.g. meat production has decreased from an average of 5% per year before 2016 to just 2% in 2019.
From January 2015 to January 2020, the median sales of core food items decreased by 6%, most of all meat (down 20%), cheese (16%), butter and other animal fat (15%), and fresh fruit (13%).
Again, 2% more people are buying 20% less meat.
Let that sink in.
Finally, from 2000 to 2014, "mineral products" (yeah, that's oil) in Russian export increased from $56B to $350B.
What's worse, the proportion of oil in export increased from 54% to staggering 70.4% as well, so when the crazy high oil prices crashed, Russia had nothing to replace oil in export, which led to a staggering decrease from nearly $500B in 2014 to $344B in 2015 and $285B in 2016.
The bottom line: Putin's time was not always bad -- but it was hardly his achievement. It's all about the oil.
While the oligarchs bathed in oil dollars, the government let people live -- but at the same time is completely abandoned its basic functions.
During that time, people prospered primarily due to lack of government intervention (personal opinion).
However, left to their own devices and without maintenance, the leftover parts of the Soviet system deteriorated beyond repair, as evidenced by the Rosstat data.
When the oil crisis arrived, it was exacerbated by the political crisis of 2011, intervention in Ukraine, and the $50B Sochi Olympics.
When the chips were down, Putin showed what he really cared about.
Taxes and age of retirement rapidly went up, free speech was squashed, all mass media began espousing exclusively propaganda, elections were openly rigged, all forms of protest were destroyed.
People in Hong Kong protested with blank sheets of paper? In Russia, they were arrested.
Oh, and Putin is selling Russian resources to China, wholesale, at a bargain price.
I think he's putting in people loyal to him because the swamp runs deep it needs to be drained and the creatures need to be executed or life in prison I don't think he wants to do the next 4 years but he's a badass and knows he HAS to.. I think JR runs 2024 and hopefully wins a free and fair election
I'm willing to consider he might not be quite as monstrous as I think he is. We've been allied with Russian monsters before anyways, and it would be very good to do it again if it means defeating China.
"Infiltration, assassination, proxy wars... not to mention state-sponsored cybercrime and sex-trafficking." How does this shit not apply to the CIA and the Uniparty?
I'm not absolving Russia. I'm just asking how the fuck can someone keep accusing one party of doing something that they themselves are also doing, and pretending that only one side has the moral right to do so.
Russia is much less bad than the uniparty. Russia is a regional player at best and is minimally subversive in terms of its cultural undermining of the Christian civilization. The only thing making it a wider threat is nukes and vast natural wealth + sheer territory. Economy is frail. Population insufficient. Putin doesn't have hegemonic ambitions like the uniparty. He just wants to make his own backyard work, and it's quite hard given the inherited shitshow which came to be after USSR blew up. Oddly enough, his path and Trump's path are relatively similar. The US is just on the verge of a different type of shattering event, but the ramifications could very well be the same.
Russia and Historical America are the same; they are subverted by the same people. the funders of the Bolsheviks who enslaved UUSR are ancestors of the globalists in America. Russia is a white orthodox country like America was/is a white Christian nation.
Maybe Jacob and Esau would be a better Biblical reference :) Still at odds with each other, and one tricked the other, but it didn't result in murder. And though they continued their tumultuous brotherhood throughout their lives, they both were there together to bury their father Isaac.
The Bible is full of broken people just like all of you and me.
The entities in control of the CCP and globalists are from another place altogether. They were banished here and are stuck here until their final doom.
Just because Putin is anti-globalist, he is not a friend.
He is the highest degree sociopath. His record of achievements includes:
No free press. Journalists are being killed
Initiation and participation of the wars (Ukraine, Georgia). War criminal
Corrupts neighbouring countries and their politicians (using Gazprom)
No freedoms, no liberties, and complete state control over the things that matter
No free trade. Bullying and attempt of making neighboring countries submissive.
False flags: killed his own citizens to start a war in Chechnya
Political opponents are being killed or exiled regularly
Highest corruption in the highest levels
Made himself de facto king
A product of communist USSR deep state - KGB
Cryptocurrencies were on par with narcotics and terrorism in Russia
Putin and Russia are brainwashing that small neighboring states such as Moldova, Estonia are the enemies, however, he is seeking for friendship and alliances with corrupt NWO politicians in Germany and France.
You need to register to use the internet in Russia, so no free speech or information search. The opposition is Controlled.
... and the list continues.
While Putin is a nationalist, his ideals are exactly opposite to those of USA.
Fuck Putin, Fuck his corrupt Government, Fuck stupid Russian propaganda.
The people in between Russia and the West are not neutral pawns. There are countless poll in all of the countries, and everywhere the people want more to get away from Russian influence. They know the agitation, assassinations, constant military threats, constant propaganda.
Russia has always been the greater threat to them.
In Estonia, Russia shipped in busloads of hooligans to wreak havoc (kind of like anti-fa but more violent) when they moved a Soviet statue.
In Latvia, Russia tried to leverage a small racial group - the Latgales - to create a separatist movement. Very similar to how they did in Georgia and E Ukraine.
So why dont you forget then the fact that both Estonia and Latvia right after secession basically nullified all rights for people that were already 3 generations born into the country, their ancestors moved their mostly against their will (by респределение) and provided no easy way for them to be naturalized (except tossing aside their national identity at all)?Come on, they are not as fluffy and kind as you paint them.
Thay actively WANTED and SEEKED to antagonize Russia and their Russian part of population.
Imagine the environment at the end of 90s. Yeltsin is getting tired and uncapable to govern. Russia just lost chechen war (we lost, that's truth). Nothern Caucaus republics are walking bomb waiting to explode with a lot of armed insurgents walking around.
Tatarstan and Bashkortostan openly expressing will to secede (they have oil and can sustain themself). Every national region have their own local ruler in charge who does whatever fuck he wants.
crime:
Territories eastern to Ural are wild west. Heroin is everywhere. Crime gangs are in power, initial stage of shootouts just stopped, money was laundered and those crooks gained enough capital to want to settle and be in power.
International and economy:
СНГ is a shitshow. World Bank wants to give funding and in return wants russia to conclude "liberal reforms". Foreign capital is seeking to take control of most of Russian economy sector.
Now what would YOU fucking do in that environment?
Stabilize at any cost. Cut the losses, get rid of external debts. Introduce funding and centralize law enforcement. And build up upon that.
I am sure that there was a lot of things we dont know of. But he did right - he saved the country.
In 2019 before china flu hit I was talking to friends I was happy to see small-scale manufacturing companies starting around, run by Russians, producing quality Russian-made products. Media portrayed it as fucking disaster when in fact everybody was earning more than ever.
You can write a long text with excuses. You have never touched or addressed the points that I have made.
What you fail to notice that all you do is defend Russian state and government, while failing to notice that Russian people are under a similiar spell, under control of zombo-box, similarly to CNN, MSNBC and other.
Apology accepted. The reason I'm so pro-Russia, is, well, I AM Russian. And I love my country. I dont love Putin, he's sort of a jerk anyway, but he keeps my country intact, and I respect him for that. I believe it was not an easy job as well.
Putin may not be a friend of USA, but he's easy to understand. He does not take benefit of USA into account, he wants most benefit to his own country and to expand its infuence. When working together to our mutual benefit, that could be a very powerful alliance.
BTW, your post was very emotional, and it repeats a lot of talking points Russian liberal media does (likes of meduza.io). It's a leftist thingie, to appeal to emotions. From my point of view most of points are exxagerrated and some are outright disinformation. You are entitled to your own opinion though.
For one, lots and lots of guns.
In all seriousness though, just because it is America, it is not guaranteed that these things won't happen.
What is guaranteed -- and this is what we're observing -- is that these things will be handled differently.
Compare and contrast:
Exhibit A: the first openly fraudulent election in Russia was in 2011 (Congress election), 60,000 citizens infuriated by blatant cheating marched in Moscow and a number of other cities.
Result: multiple arrests and long prison sentences, zero consequences for powers-that-be followed by 2012 and 2018 brazenly fraudulent presidential elections and a 2020 "referendum" that "zeroed out" Putin's time in office, so he'll remain there for life.
Exhibit B: the first openly fraudulent election in the US: worldwide chatter, "nothing's over," and we'll definitely pull through (unless the leftists start executing people in broad daylight, I surmise).
The difference is the system. The US is not a land of prosperity and opportunity because nothing bad ever happens here -- it is because it's been rationally designed to withstand attacks on its system of governance and its people.
There's a lot of evidence to suggest that the bolsheviks in Russia caused WWII, and the German build up was a defensive reaction to their aggression. But you won't see that in your textbooks.
You're referring to the Holodomar, where about a decade prior to WWII, the bolsheviks in Moscow stole every last grain & crop from the outlying rural areas; deliberately starving all of them to death...about 30 million people died horribly.
I want to know why such an extraordinarily brutal event perpetrated by the bolsheviks (a religious/political class...guess the religion) is ignored, and all we ever hear about is the jewish holocaust.
From the little bit of research I've done. Russia at the end of 19th century and beginning of 20th was very similar to US now. Especially with media treatment.
I think that could be another reason why they destroyed relations. Although, a smaller one.
Russia and the US have so much in common. China and the US have absolutely nothing in common. That’s why the democrats chose Russia for the hoax because it would get attention away from a real enemy and make it impossible for Trump to work with Russia on anything.
If one should go and read Pravda and other Russian news outlets, one will find that, while the tone is contrary to many US policies, the Russian tone is NOT war language.
China's language to the US IS war language.
Putin is NOT waging war against the US. China IS waging war.
Russia has not infiltrated our remaining industries to turn them into Russian-loyal oligarchs.
China HAS done this, to turn our corporate offices into China-loyal oligarchs.
Russia is NOT a natural ally of China. Communism may have forged a common bond, but it is artificial - it will not bear the test of time. It already shows signs of severe fraying and fracturing.
Putin may not be a globalist, but he sure as hell is still a communist. He was the head of the KGB after all. He would love nothing more than to see President Trump ousted, so part 2 of the Ukraine invasion can begin with no consequences.
Putin has dastardly intentions for the US just like any other nation, but they would be much better allies than China. If we could somehow convince them to extract from the middle east as we would there would be far less of a proxy war to divide us and we could focus on keeping them at arms length while working together against China. Europe is cucked and will follow if we lead.
Literally the same type of civilization. We are both frontier civilizations. Siberia is the Wild East, just like the Prairies or Alaska are the Wild West. The same entrepreneurial-heroic mindset, the same love of freedom and God, the same capability to fight and improvise, the same attitude: "WE ALWAYS WIN!!!"
An "Anti-UN" should be created...imagine if USA, Russia, Brazil, Hungary, Poland, Serbia, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore etc...joined forces!!!
Imagine how far we would be together if the Russian Civil War went differently...we would have Moon and Mars bases and probably be sending our first official interstellar ship by now.
THE CCP IS VIOLATING THE AMUR RIVER BORDER THAT WAS DETERMINED IN THE 1600s, THEY WANT TO STEAL SIBERIA AND OUR NATURAL RESOURCES!!!
Putin is ex KGB, he’s in favor of keeping power. Relationships with competing nations are far more complex than “let’s team up” but when shot hits the fan, the decisions get “simpler” quickly.
Trump already said he and Putin had a "good conversation" about national security defense of critical infrastructure. This was months ago but it stuck with me. There's no issue with Russian relations! Russia is an ally at this point, I've said it for months.
Putin is only in it for himself, but, he does hate China and has been hinting at an anti-China alliance. If Trump is inaugurated Putin might be amenable to an anti-China alliance between the U.S., India, Japan, and Russia.
China pushed the Russian hoax to isolate Russia and make them dependent on China and if things got hot they would stand by until they settled down then swoop in and take Siberia from Russia.
Oh sorry, I think I see what you were saying now. I was confused.
You're saying everything people keep criticizing Russia for, we and our supposed allies have been doing even worse, right?
Because I agree. The sad difference is: Russia seems to at least be acting in its own interests. We've instead been globalist puppets, so none of it was for us.
Been saying it for a while, and I'll say it again: Putin is a dictator and a tyrant who all but destroyed Russia.
He also sold Russian land and resources to the Chinese.
Fuck Putin.
The Russian people and the American people should always remain friends. We are very culturally similar. The Russian gov't and American gov't, however, shouldn't be in most cases.
This. Americans and Russians = happy free enterprising people.
Our governments, well... meh. Not the same. We can always hope for a russian constitutional republic though.
You have issues with all the neighbors. All the neighbours, somehow, are evil against Russia. Start with the border conflict China. Then Japan wants Russian land, then USA has illegal Russian land in Alaska. Then Kazakhstan has Russian teritories. Then Ukraine keeps Russian land under their control.
He is a killer, yes. He is a sociopathic killer however, as he kills people who have no way of harming him or interests of Russia.
Russia is a natural cultural ally to the United States!
I'd rather buy "Made in Russia" than "Made in China".
Yes!
So much this.
And I have enormous respect for Putin.
He's very, very smart.
Capable.
Strong.
Another alpha.
russia hates china too
The only thing that made Russia focus on China is the demonization from the Uniparty.
China is already encroaching on Russian land for oil fyi
Putin protects the CHILDREN!!
This is why Putin is offering Russians land in Russia's Far East. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50185006
This is why the globalist can’t have USA-Russia relations.
Let's not get carried away dude. Putin is a dictator who has poisoned his opponents (though I wouldnt be surprised if someone else did that to poison the well)
Exactly, I mean they will probably be our allies again but their government still sucks probably full of cunts it's the norm
Or it was MI6 who poisoned those people in the UK and in Russia. Just so you know rogue agents can run in any country. The West isn't safe either, looking at the mess in the Ukraine and Radical Islamic Mosques up and running.
As if our government doesn't do the same thing and worse. They're just more capable of cover-up.
Also literally immortal. There are photos of him from 1850 where he looks exactly the same. Probably.
Trump also won't age, whereas 4 yeas in the WH makes every other President age 10-15 years. So, Putin and Trump, alpha + alpha. Fuck the Swamp for driving an anti-Globalist ally into a partnership with China that's growing closer all the time. Next stop military alliance.
B-b-b-but muh (actually quite literally debonked) collusion narrative!!!!!
Gandhi's ambition intensifies.
It's a nice idea in theory, but you simply cannot trust the Russians, even when your interests are perfectly in line. They just can't help but do stupid, dickish bullshit to prove their superiority.
I read this in a female Russian accent for some reason
Yes, but that generally means they end up nuking themselves and looking like complete morons..
Uh, Bro, the 1980s called, they want their foreign policy back.
God, I hate the left so much.
Ahem
RUSSIA IS NOT COMMUNIST ANYMORE, THEY ARE NATIONALISTS.
THIS! fuck the globalists.
This could also be why Kemp rigged the Georgia steal such that Perdue and Loeffler would win but Trump lose. Do they think we are dumb? 😂 Perdue win but Trump lose, lol in what world does that make sense. Are they all sucking on the CCP teat? We'll see if they certify the steal or not.
Putin is a KGB agent, for crying out loud.
There aren't former KGB agents.
Also under Putin the number of schools and hospitals literally halved and people have been leaving Russia in droves.
Also he's been rigging Russian elections since 2011.
Russia = good.
Putin = bad
Yea, I guess so. Although, he is credited righteously for saving Russia from the brink of disaster with the Chechnya War in the 90s and reviving the country with an economic boom and else during the 2000-2014 period ... before the nonsense in Ukraine happening.
Also, yes, Putin is a former KGB agent. However, he was neither top-ranked (e.g. stationed in Dresden as a Colonel) and he actually left the Communist Party in the early 90s being disgruntled with what they did to Yeltsin etc. He actually worked as a Cab Driver for a while, before coming back into Politics.
Oliver Stone has an interesting documentary on him.
Russian pede here. I was very critical of Putin's policies. I could be considered liberal in around 2015. I still am critocal of his actions for some degree. However, dome time back, even not knowing all that media and nwo shenanigans, I tried to speculate, how would I behave in Russia's political environment - with rampant corruption and hundreds of local tzars on their thrones in every oblast and russian republic. And actually I concluded that the very thing he did - creating a centralised governing body based on loyalty - would be my course of action. You cannot invoke the law when the country is lawless. you have to establish order first and enforce the law, hard way.
Putin's not perfect, but he wants Russia to have its own sovereignity and build up on our own. Note that there's almost none chinese capital in Russian top companies, and most of them are controlled directly or indirectly by Russian government. He keeps Russia intact.
This is still an oligarchy and goes against the American constitution.
That's true. But you cannot just jump through all the development steps of a country without experiencing and iternalizing them. Russia was cut from that growth process in 1917 when commies overtook the power, and what we are experiencing in Russia is a pendulum swang back. We are fast-forwarding through it, but it takes time to grow into a proper country. We will get there eventually.
No you won't.
He sold Russian land in Siberia to the Chinese, destroyed schools and medical system.
Oh, and he rigged elections, so there's that.
Вы посмотрите на Росстат. Там все данные есть в открытом доступе же, и по-русски, и по-английски.
Вспомните "нарушения" на выборах: и бюллетени пачками в урны на видео, и статистический анализ, и 100% явка в ряде республик.
Ну централизовал он власть. И? Что-то поменялось к лучшему?
Пока только вот пенсионный возраст резко поднял.
давай я тебе взгляж с другой стороны покажу. ты мыслишь как потребитель привыкший к бесплатным услугам от государства. ничем не лучше чем черный в гетто сидящий на фудстампах. сейчас идет переход от социалистической модели к модели свободного рынка, поэтому медицина и образование (бесплатное ! sic ! ) тихонечко сворачивается и приносящие дохож их куски переходят в чатный сектор. никто не мешает поступить в частный вуз или купить дмс. при этом огромная прлграмма господдержки рождаемости, и импортозамещение помаленьку начинает работать. аграрка и легкое прлизводство практически полностью русские. если ты не хочешб видеть позитив не значит что его нет. давай меньше ненависти, больше конструктива.
Во-первых, не надо этого амикошонства, я с вами на брудершафт не пил.
Во-вторых, откуда вы знаете, к чему собственно я привык и как я мыслю?
В-третьих, "sic" означает совсем не то, что вы думаете.
В-четвёртых, у вас с грамматикой и правописанием полная беда. Читать ваш опус очень тяжело.
В-пятых, ненависти? Простите, откуда такие выводы? С чего вы решили, что я кого-то ненавижу?
Ну и наконец в-шестых, по сути вопроса: "давай", как вы говорите, без голословных мнений, ладно?
Сельское хозяйство и лёгкая промышленность -- русские? Откуда цифры?
Иностранцам землёй в России владеть нельзя по закону, а вот контролировать -- пожалуйста, чем они успешно и занимаются.
Из 7.5М Га находящихся в собственности крупных предприятий (свыше 100К Га), на 2013й год лишь 5.3М были в собственности российских компаний, а остальные 2.2М (30%) управлялись иностранцами.
Касательно лёгкой промышленности, действительно, "во владении иностранных собственников находится 3,4% активов", однако "по сравнению с 2005 г. эта структура практически не изменилась" и "в легкую промышленность иностранные собственники особенно не стремятся в силу относительно низкой инвестиционной привлекательности отрасли."
Причём тут Путин?
Я вам порекомендовал ресурс, но вы, очевидно, им пренебрегли.
Что ж, вот документы, прямо из росстата: тут и про результаты поддержки рождаемости, и про импортозамещение, в частности, есть.
Буду по-буржуйски, чтобы понятно было всем.
Here are some official stats from Rosstat (Russian Bureau of Statistics).
How bad was Putin for Russia if his policies moved the country back 11 years -- back to 2008?
Nearly half a million people leave Russia every year.
In comparison, the number of immigrants was relatively stable: in 2001 there were 193,450, in 2010 -- 191,656, and by 2019 it grew to 701,234.
Russians are being replaced. Doesn't sound like nationalism to me.
The Insider conducted a more elaborate analysis back in 2016.
In 2020, the median (across all categories of groceries) purchase power decreased by 10% compared to 2012, especially fish, grains, milk, butter, and tea.
The idea being that once the competition is removed from the market, the niche is filled by the local farmers.
Well...
The rate of e.g. meat production has decreased from an average of 5% per year before 2016 to just 2% in 2019.
From January 2015 to January 2020, the median sales of core food items decreased by 6%, most of all meat (down 20%), cheese (16%), butter and other animal fat (15%), and fresh fruit (13%).
Again, 2% more people are buying 20% less meat.
Let that sink in.
What's worse, the proportion of oil in export increased from 54% to staggering 70.4% as well, so when the crazy high oil prices crashed, Russia had nothing to replace oil in export, which led to a staggering decrease from nearly $500B in 2014 to $344B in 2015 and $285B in 2016.
The bottom line: Putin's time was not always bad -- but it was hardly his achievement. It's all about the oil.
While the oligarchs bathed in oil dollars, the government let people live -- but at the same time is completely abandoned its basic functions.
During that time, people prospered primarily due to lack of government intervention (personal opinion).
However, left to their own devices and without maintenance, the leftover parts of the Soviet system deteriorated beyond repair, as evidenced by the Rosstat data.
When the oil crisis arrived, it was exacerbated by the political crisis of 2011, intervention in Ukraine, and the $50B Sochi Olympics.
When the chips were down, Putin showed what he really cared about.
Taxes and age of retirement rapidly went up, free speech was squashed, all mass media began espousing exclusively propaganda, elections were openly rigged, all forms of protest were destroyed.
People in Hong Kong protested with blank sheets of paper? In Russia, they were arrested.
Oh, and Putin is selling Russian resources to China, wholesale, at a bargain price.
Тяжело тебе похоже живется. Везде негатив, все плохо.
Ну, как говорится, во многом уме много горести.
А вам, я вижу, по существу вопроса сказать нечего.
Watch the downvotes come in from the "patriots" who think dictatorship is good so long as it benefits their cause.
Liberty lovers, my behind.
So fucking what?
We're allied with ethnostates (Israel) and kingdoms (Saudi, Morocco, etc) in the middle east, and those go against the constitution too.
I think he's putting in people loyal to him because the swamp runs deep it needs to be drained and the creatures need to be executed or life in prison I don't think he wants to do the next 4 years but he's a badass and knows he HAS to.. I think JR runs 2024 and hopefully wins a free and fair election
The same swamp that ran the USSR.
Thank you for your input. I was wondering, what do you make of Zhukov? I heard he was a rising star in Russian politics.
He became too popular right after the war and was eliminated from commanding positions. He was a threat to Stalin.
No, different Zhukov. Not the WWII general.
I'm willing to consider he might not be quite as monstrous as I think he is. We've been allied with Russian monsters before anyways, and it would be very good to do it again if it means defeating China.
plus, Putin rides polar bears.
Nikolai, Nikolai, Nikolai, Nikolai!
Pretty sure this is where all the fabricated media hate on Putin stems from.
What Putin thinks about the trannies propaganda towards children. We have more in common than one might think
First they say gay rights, then they say trans rights, then they normalize pedo rights.
Leave gays alone but leave kids alone too. They don't know anything about sexuality, stop brainwashing them to be purple headed twitter trolls.
No.
Soviet style communism is still very much alive.
Infiltration, assassination, proxy wars... not to mention state-sponsored cybercrime and sex-trafficking.
By the way, Russian trolls are so much more capable than Chinese trolls, well-trained, crafty and with a sense of humor.
TDW is not your place. However, we're happy if you can take down some Euro-communists for us and annex Northeastern China.
"Infiltration, assassination, proxy wars... not to mention state-sponsored cybercrime and sex-trafficking." How does this shit not apply to the CIA and the Uniparty?
It applies to them, but that’s why we hate them. Don’t give Russia a pass for it.
I'm not absolving Russia. I'm just asking how the fuck can someone keep accusing one party of doing something that they themselves are also doing, and pretending that only one side has the moral right to do so.
Hes saying both are cunts because of reasons stated. He's not saying 'russia bad' hes saying 'uniparty AND russia bad
Russia is much less bad than the uniparty. Russia is a regional player at best and is minimally subversive in terms of its cultural undermining of the Christian civilization. The only thing making it a wider threat is nukes and vast natural wealth + sheer territory. Economy is frail. Population insufficient. Putin doesn't have hegemonic ambitions like the uniparty. He just wants to make his own backyard work, and it's quite hard given the inherited shitshow which came to be after USSR blew up. Oddly enough, his path and Trump's path are relatively similar. The US is just on the verge of a different type of shattering event, but the ramifications could very well be the same.
Russia and America are like sibling rivals, Kane and Abel - cut from the same cloth so to speak.
The CCP are basically alien to our way of life.
America showed Russia a better way to live, and Russia asked themselves why they were starving under communism when there was a better alternative.
Russia and Historical America are the same; they are subverted by the same people. the funders of the Bolsheviks who enslaved UUSR are ancestors of the globalists in America. Russia is a white orthodox country like America was/is a white Christian nation.
Maybe Jacob and Esau would be a better Biblical reference :) Still at odds with each other, and one tricked the other, but it didn't result in murder. And though they continued their tumultuous brotherhood throughout their lives, they both were there together to bury their father Isaac.
The Bible is full of broken people just like all of you and me.
The entities in control of the CCP and globalists are from another place altogether. They were banished here and are stuck here until their final doom.
No.
Agreed, but as to this...
... lol no 😂
Putin is much more likely to sell Siberia to China.
"Globalists", "communists", "marxist", etc... all the same group.
they aare descendants of the bolsheviks.
Your face when Russia is now anti-neomarxist
Just because Putin is anti-globalist, he is not a friend.
He is the highest degree sociopath. His record of achievements includes:
While Putin is a nationalist, his ideals are exactly opposite to those of USA.
Fuck Putin, Fuck his corrupt Government, Fuck stupid Russian propaganda.
Ukraine and Georgia was because of Obama and UN shenanigans tho.
No it wasn't.
The people in between Russia and the West are not neutral pawns. There are countless poll in all of the countries, and everywhere the people want more to get away from Russian influence. They know the agitation, assassinations, constant military threats, constant propaganda.
Russia has always been the greater threat to them.
In Estonia, Russia shipped in busloads of hooligans to wreak havoc (kind of like anti-fa but more violent) when they moved a Soviet statue.
In Latvia, Russia tried to leverage a small racial group - the Latgales - to create a separatist movement. Very similar to how they did in Georgia and E Ukraine.
So why dont you forget then the fact that both Estonia and Latvia right after secession basically nullified all rights for people that were already 3 generations born into the country, their ancestors moved their mostly against their will (by респределение) and provided no easy way for them to be naturalized (except tossing aside their national identity at all)?Come on, they are not as fluffy and kind as you paint them. Thay actively WANTED and SEEKED to antagonize Russia and their Russian part of population.
Imagine the environment at the end of 90s. Yeltsin is getting tired and uncapable to govern. Russia just lost chechen war (we lost, that's truth). Nothern Caucaus republics are walking bomb waiting to explode with a lot of armed insurgents walking around. Tatarstan and Bashkortostan openly expressing will to secede (they have oil and can sustain themself). Every national region have their own local ruler in charge who does whatever fuck he wants. crime: Territories eastern to Ural are wild west. Heroin is everywhere. Crime gangs are in power, initial stage of shootouts just stopped, money was laundered and those crooks gained enough capital to want to settle and be in power. International and economy: СНГ is a shitshow. World Bank wants to give funding and in return wants russia to conclude "liberal reforms". Foreign capital is seeking to take control of most of Russian economy sector.
Now what would YOU fucking do in that environment? Stabilize at any cost. Cut the losses, get rid of external debts. Introduce funding and centralize law enforcement. And build up upon that. I am sure that there was a lot of things we dont know of. But he did right - he saved the country. In 2019 before china flu hit I was talking to friends I was happy to see small-scale manufacturing companies starting around, run by Russians, producing quality Russian-made products. Media portrayed it as fucking disaster when in fact everybody was earning more than ever.
Go and hide Russian apologist, muh Russia lover.
You can write a long text with excuses. You have never touched or addressed the points that I have made.
What you fail to notice that all you do is defend Russian state and government, while failing to notice that Russian people are under a similiar spell, under control of zombo-box, similarly to CNN, MSNBC and other.
You are just not honest.
Do not bring Russia to this forum again.
I see you resorted to personal attacks and are speaking on behalf of everybody on TDW now. Makes your argument stronger, does it?
No intention to attack personally. Sorry if it came that way.
All in all, Putin is not an ally of the USA or the free world.
He is staunchly against freedoms and liberties, and it is maddening to see bots defending Putin and apologizing for him. True doublethink standard.
Apology accepted. The reason I'm so pro-Russia, is, well, I AM Russian. And I love my country. I dont love Putin, he's sort of a jerk anyway, but he keeps my country intact, and I respect him for that. I believe it was not an easy job as well.
Putin may not be a friend of USA, but he's easy to understand. He does not take benefit of USA into account, he wants most benefit to his own country and to expand its infuence. When working together to our mutual benefit, that could be a very powerful alliance.
BTW, your post was very emotional, and it repeats a lot of talking points Russian liberal media does (likes of meduza.io). It's a leftist thingie, to appeal to emotions. From my point of view most of points are exxagerrated and some are outright disinformation. You are entitled to your own opinion though.
can Russia and USA ever unite and defeat the globalists?
You took the MSM bait hook, line and sinker, didn't you
You can have our journalists
For one, lots and lots of guns.
In all seriousness though, just because it is America, it is not guaranteed that these things won't happen.
What is guaranteed -- and this is what we're observing -- is that these things will be handled differently.
Compare and contrast:
Exhibit A: the first openly fraudulent election in Russia was in 2011 (Congress election), 60,000 citizens infuriated by blatant cheating marched in Moscow and a number of other cities.
Result: multiple arrests and long prison sentences, zero consequences for powers-that-be followed by 2012 and 2018 brazenly fraudulent presidential elections and a 2020 "referendum" that "zeroed out" Putin's time in office, so he'll remain there for life.
Exhibit B: the first openly fraudulent election in the US: worldwide chatter, "nothing's over," and we'll definitely pull through (unless the leftists start executing people in broad daylight, I surmise).
The difference is the system. The US is not a land of prosperity and opportunity because nothing bad ever happens here -- it is because it's been rationally designed to withstand attacks on its system of governance and its people.
I ain't sure about this one.
Are you fucking retards serious? Russia is not our ally.. noone is.
I mean russia has been an ally in both the world wars.
There's a lot of evidence to suggest that the bolsheviks in Russia caused WWII, and the German build up was a defensive reaction to their aggression. But you won't see that in your textbooks.
That is interesting.
Look into the weimar Republic.
Another thing that bothers me is that the Soviet Union murdered some 30 million people BEFORE the rise of Nazism in Germany.
That's five fucking holocausts. But you never hear about this context when you read about the rise of fascism.
You're referring to the Holodomar, where about a decade prior to WWII, the bolsheviks in Moscow stole every last grain & crop from the outlying rural areas; deliberately starving all of them to death...about 30 million people died horribly.
I want to know why such an extraordinarily brutal event perpetrated by the bolsheviks (a religious/political class...guess the religion) is ignored, and all we ever hear about is the jewish holocaust.
From the little bit of research I've done. Russia at the end of 19th century and beginning of 20th was very similar to US now. Especially with media treatment.
I think that could be another reason why they destroyed relations. Although, a smaller one.
I would rather share and trade technology with Russia than get robbed by China.
Russia will rob you too lol.
They have offered to share. Just saying
Russia and the US have so much in common. China and the US have absolutely nothing in common. That’s why the democrats chose Russia for the hoax because it would get attention away from a real enemy and make it impossible for Trump to work with Russia on anything.
If one should go and read Pravda and other Russian news outlets, one will find that, while the tone is contrary to many US policies, the Russian tone is NOT war language.
China's language to the US IS war language.
Putin is NOT waging war against the US. China IS waging war.
Russia has not infiltrated our remaining industries to turn them into Russian-loyal oligarchs.
China HAS done this, to turn our corporate offices into China-loyal oligarchs.
Russia is NOT a natural ally of China. Communism may have forged a common bond, but it is artificial - it will not bear the test of time. It already shows signs of severe fraying and fracturing.
I think Trump is well aware of this.
Putin may not be a globalist, but he sure as hell is still a communist. He was the head of the KGB after all. He would love nothing more than to see President Trump ousted, so part 2 of the Ukraine invasion can begin with no consequences.
He's one of the few leaders who has refused to congratulate Biden
Putin has dastardly intentions for the US just like any other nation, but they would be much better allies than China. If we could somehow convince them to extract from the middle east as we would there would be far less of a proxy war to divide us and we could focus on keeping them at arms length while working together against China. Europe is cucked and will follow if we lead.
All true, but the question in all of this is the same
What are we going to DO about it?
They are calling our bluff.
RUSSIANS AND AMERICANS - BROTHERS FOR ETERNITY!!!
РУССКИЕ И АМЕРИКАНЦЫ - БРАТЬЯ НА ВЕК!!!
Literally the same type of civilization. We are both frontier civilizations. Siberia is the Wild East, just like the Prairies or Alaska are the Wild West. The same entrepreneurial-heroic mindset, the same love of freedom and God, the same capability to fight and improvise, the same attitude: "WE ALWAYS WIN!!!"
An "Anti-UN" should be created...imagine if USA, Russia, Brazil, Hungary, Poland, Serbia, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore etc...joined forces!!!
Imagine how far we would be together if the Russian Civil War went differently...we would have Moon and Mars bases and probably be sending our first official interstellar ship by now.
THE CCP IS VIOLATING THE AMUR RIVER BORDER THAT WAS DETERMINED IN THE 1600s, THEY WANT TO STEAL SIBERIA AND OUR NATURAL RESOURCES!!!
Russia is pro Russia. That makes them fairly predictable, but still not our friends or allies.
That's better than uk, au, etc.
They did, that's why they all hate them both.
Russia isn't communist anymore, the US and Russia no longer have a reason to be enemies.
Except that Putin offs reporters every now and then.
Can we get India on board?
India is already on board , indians = patriots
Japan, Australia!?
But did they really destroy us Russia relations? Or did it expose who on earth is a nationalist and who is a communist?
If the US and Russia form an alliance, China is toast. The marxist NWO is toast.
A lot of the last four years make sense then.
Putin is ex KGB, he’s in favor of keeping power. Relationships with competing nations are far more complex than “let’s team up” but when shot hits the fan, the decisions get “simpler” quickly.
Trump already said he and Putin had a "good conversation" about national security defense of critical infrastructure. This was months ago but it stuck with me. There's no issue with Russian relations! Russia is an ally at this point, I've said it for months.
Muh Russian collusion confirmed!/s
100%
If The USA united with countries like Russia we could form the most powerful alliance for peace the world has ever seen
Putin is only in it for himself, but, he does hate China and has been hinting at an anti-China alliance. If Trump is inaugurated Putin might be amenable to an anti-China alliance between the U.S., India, Japan, and Russia.
If Biden actually wins I'm okay with Putin Nuking the US.
the hell is this
China pushed the Russian hoax to isolate Russia and make them dependent on China and if things got hot they would stand by until they settled down then swoop in and take Siberia from Russia.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend (cautiously so)
Time and again, this has been proved a wrong approach.
There could be shared interests, but Russia is not a friend. They never were. They will not be for several generations.
In Russia they are taught that Americans are mostly faggoty, shit eating, perverts who think of assaulting Russia.
Very true.
Assad is populist. Ghadafi was populist
One was killed by Obama the other Hilary was going to take out if she became president.
I love Russia Now!! I'm not speaking to China ATM.
What?
That was Israel, are you confused?
Oh sorry, I think I see what you were saying now. I was confused.
You're saying everything people keep criticizing Russia for, we and our supposed allies have been doing even worse, right?
Because I agree. The sad difference is: Russia seems to at least be acting in its own interests. We've instead been globalist puppets, so none of it was for us.
This gives me hope. There have been rumblings that we’ll be blindsided by Russia
It's a good thing we all speak Russian then
Been saying it for a while, and I'll say it again: Putin is a dictator and a tyrant who all but destroyed Russia.
He also sold Russian land and resources to the Chinese.
Fuck Putin.
The Russian people and the American people should always remain friends. We are very culturally similar. The Russian gov't and American gov't, however, shouldn't be in most cases.
This. Americans and Russians = happy free enterprising people. Our governments, well... meh. Not the same. We can always hope for a russian constitutional republic though.
Russia isn't communist anymore, the US and Russia no longer have a reason to be enemies.
Except that Putin offs reporters every now and then.
Right. And ordered killing and poisoning his opponents.
You have issues with all the neighbors. All the neighbours, somehow, are evil against Russia. Start with the border conflict China. Then Japan wants Russian land, then USA has illegal Russian land in Alaska. Then Kazakhstan has Russian teritories. Then Ukraine keeps Russian land under their control.
He is a killer, yes. He is a sociopathic killer however, as he kills people who have no way of harming him or interests of Russia.
Russia has nuclear weapons, tens of thousands of them.
So, who exactly is a threat to Russia?