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LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS (i.imgflip.com) VERY FAKE NEWS
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epicdenver 120 points ago +122 / -2

It's just stupid now. People are losing their scientific credibility just to keep the blue check marks from disbarring them from society. This will lead to someone curing cancer but being cast to the side for not being liberal enough.

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SquiggyMcPepe 82 points ago +88 / -6

The cure for cancer is sitting in a vault somewhere. The money is in the treatment not the cure. Literally hundreds of billions each year on cancer treatments and research. You think they would allow a cure to escape?

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Yawnz13 35 points ago +38 / -3

Not likely, especially since cancer can be caused by anything from exposure to certain forms of radiation and chemicals to the simple failure of one's own DNA repair mechanisms.

I mean, why bother even making medicine at all if the goal was to just make money off of skimming research contracts?

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SquiggyMcPepe 25 points ago +27 / -2

My point is that even if there were a cure the very last thing they would do is allow the public to know about it. A cure would be reserved for the elites.

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Scroon 5 points ago +6 / -1

A (mostly) universal cancer cure is possible. It's really an immunological problem, getting the body to understand that the cancer cells are actually "bad guys".

There was some turn of the century doctor who cured cancerous tumors by infecting patients with Legionairres' Disease. The idea was to push the body's immune system into overdrive...and darn if mention of it hasn't been scrubbed from the internet.

This cure was developed into something called "something toxins", but while effective, it fell out of use because nobody understood how it worked AND it was ridiculously cheap.

I'll see if I can track it down...

EDIT: Ah, found the doctor.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Coley

Currently, the medical establishment is attributing the effects of the treatment to only heat of the fever, but that's stupid. Something immunological is going on.

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KiTA 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yes and no. "Cancer" is really 400+ different disorders and diseases. 1 cure for all of them isn't likely.

The big version of cancer as far as I know is unchecked mutation in the human body, like skin cells that glitch when they divide and the new one messes up. A "cure" for that would involve engineering some form of better error correction mechanism, or some sort of advanced white blood cell (nanomachines, son) that can hunt that stuff down and fix it before it becomes a problem.

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altguccifer 7 points ago +7 / -0

While you're correct on your analysis, you're not taking it all the way to the end. There actually is a one cure to all types of cancer if the problem is tackled at the origin. Having white cells (on their own or assisted by nanotech) hunt down the bad cells turned cancerous throughout the body is really just a more evolved form of the current methods (chemotherapy, radiotherapy or surgery) of dealing with cancer. It fights the symptoms but doesn't addresses the original problem. And that is that the cells fail to reproduce as they should because the DNA is damaged to the point where the copies that are created have too many errors in it. Apparently the problem is that the telomeres (the caps at the end of each DNA strand that act as instructions manual in the process of DNA replication) are shortening every time a replication process happens and the cell divides. When that telomere cap is gone the DNA is very vulnerable to being damaged and/or misread with errors thus creating cancerous cells. So if we can find a way of replacing or extending the life of the telomeres, then we essentially have a cure in the form of being able to prevent the cancer from even getting started in our cells. Plus this will also lead to major increase in human lifespan because with healthy and long telomeres the cells will be able to continue to divide correctly for a much longer time thus keeping our bodies healthy and looking younger for much longer. I don't want to say immortality but probably at least double if not triple our current lifespan. Can you say hello to Moses and the rest of Bible folks that were alleged to have lived anywhere between 200 to 400 years? This will essentially be the Holy Grail of humanity.

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SquiggyMcPepe 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes I know. The point is that if there is a cure for any particular cancer and it was distributed then big pharma would lose out on billions on future treatments and research grants. Can anyone honestly say that wouldn't be the outcome after everything else that has been exposed so far?

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Seruna_Kanus 4 points ago +4 / -0

This. Big execs mostly care about leaving their mark and leaving with a secure retirement. Once the golden goose lays all it's eggs, the execs exit and leave the eggless goose to the next generation.

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SquiggyMcPepe -1 points ago +1 / -2

How long would that ceo live if it got out he was bucking the system to garner some short term personal profits? He'd be dead or tossed out of his office before he could even get the first details past the preliminary stage.

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oxygen 2 points ago +2 / -0

Most cancers are easily curable. There is simply no money in it. Skin cancer for example is one of the easiest to cure (see Rick Simpson's hemp oil protocol).

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grndmrshlgando 11 points ago +11 / -0

I for one am sick and tired of living in suspense and a society that revolves around fear and paranoia. fuck china, and fuck the commie traitors in office especially

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PepesCovfefe 4 points ago +4 / -0

I have grave concern that things will never return to normal.

The sheep have spoken, and have indicated that they prefer to be obedient slaves.

I find it highly unlikely that we will ever as westerners live in a society without masks.

If you want to not wear a mask, you’ll have to live in China.

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grndmrshlgando 7 points ago +7 / -0

I'm not living in a society like this for the rest of my life. only thing keeping many people from rioting is because trump supposedly has a plan for all of this

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Munch_and_Crunch 1 point ago +1 / -0

The GA Senate Race is my biggest problem and the unhinged, permanent changes that will continue to weaken America. But, again, it's hard to change it when the wheels were set into place years ago. To me, it's either 2020, 2016, or 2024. Even if some justices have been a bit of a disappointment, Hillary would've permanently fucked the Supreme Court.

I had hope that IF Biden won, we wouldn't have to wear masks anymore as "normality" was restored, but villains always lie.

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Jackdagger 38 points ago +38 / -0

I knew we were screwed when they started screaming 97 percent of scientists consent that global warming is real. REEEEEEE. And banning anyone who disagreed.

Okay...so what if the 3% is correct? Like Galileo and others who were in the minority of scientists. Thats real science.

Also we were fucked when every science started getting literally billions in funding. You aren't going to science yourself out of a job even if you find the truth.

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MaoHadOnly1Testicle 21 points ago +21 / -0

Scientific consensus is not determined by a vote. The number/percentage of scientists who believe something is less than irrelevant.

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magastrophysicist 23 points ago +23 / -0

That's the beauty of pure science -- a single scientist can make a discovery that falsifies, or otherwise elucidates, prior theories.

That is in fact the entire goal of science.

The "science" we are seeing today in some places is a disturbing Marxist bastardization of science.

Sincerely,

Your local based astrophysicist

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KekistanPM 9 points ago +9 / -0

There were many scientists who said Einstein's Theory of Relativity was a total crock too; some of whom didn't like the fact he was German too.

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Kraznaya 3 points ago +3 / -0

Plus, they'd just rig that vote too!

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Pepe1776_ 11 points ago +11 / -0

I think it was 97% of some several thousand papers that expressed a view on AGW which suggested it's the cause of warming. Most expressed no views on AGW at all.

The global warming consensus claim is just bunk

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BigMikesBlackCock 3 points ago +4 / -1

Bill Nye answers the chat with exactly the right message

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Jackdagger 7 points ago +7 / -0

Old 2 gender Bill Nye or the new Bill Nye who doesn't believe in genders? It's important to differentiate between his split propaganda disorder

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BigMikesBlackCock 3 points ago +4 / -1

No need to differentiate a science guy who promotes transvestites is no Science Guy at all

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TrumpAndGodWin 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think Alex said that they are editing old Nye episodes to remove any real info about genders, xx xy etc

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BigMikesBlackCock 0 points ago +1 / -1

Alex is just as nutty as nye

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PvtSalty 23 points ago +23 / -0

Since everyone has their own personal "my truth" now, there is a "replicability crisis in science." If it can't be replicated, it's not scientific.

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Pepe_ueber_alles 17 points ago +17 / -0

Look at climate science, the models never turn out to be right and they have to constantly change them, many of the models don't even work backwards.

What's the point in a model if it never applies?

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MAGALogic 7 points ago +7 / -0

That is true. You put data into a model. So that same data should work with other models.

If not then either the model is shoddy or the data is incomplete or not satisfactory enough.

When models are used too often to project data and then that projected data is fed into models that is where the shenanigans begins.

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KekistanPM 2 points ago +2 / -0

"My truth" could be a reason why there are so many miserable people. They see reality isn't fitting their truth, so there must be a problem with reality and they spend their lives fighting reality.

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Pepe_ueber_alles 15 points ago +15 / -0

In science. Can confirm what's obvious to all here. The political bs infiltration was there to begin with (food/nutrition industry has been compromised for years among others), but it's gotten worse and worse over the years - in particular when you have to deal with universities now.

Researchers making up bs to gain funding is nothing new, take a look at the Ig Noble Prizes - rats being played different languages backwards to see if they can tell the difference, measuring how earthworm's shapes change when vibrated at high frequencies, misphonia being diagnosed (distress at hearing other people making chewing sounds).

Hell, fellow scientists in my field (not climate science) always naively ask me why climate scientists would make up their findings/fearmonger, my response is: if there's no climate crisis, they wouldn't have jobs or research grants now would they? No one takes the five minutes needed to reevaluate new information and go: wait a minute...

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otistoole 6 points ago +6 / -0

Mosphonia is just a fancy term for being a neurotic weirdo

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Tyrone_biggums 1 point ago +1 / -0

I mean, it’s s real thing for people with autism. Not sure what the problem with such a term is

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sun_wolf 1 point ago +1 / -0

If there is a theory or problem that makes climate scientists the greatest heroes in all of society, then obviously climate scientists are gonna be predisposed to believe it. If instead of climate change, the problem that was going to destroy the world was our backed uo sewer system and only plumbers could save humanity, you would see plumbers turn into smug assholes yelling at us that “the sanitation crisis is real you sewer denier!” We saw the same thing happen with the twerking nurses and the China Virus. Tell them they are heroes, kiss their ass in corporate TV commercials, and the nurses will push whatever lie they’re told to just to keep the attention and admiration flowing.

If anything, we should probably get people outside an area of expertise to determine the validity of these claims. The experts are clearly compromised whenever validating the claim means fame and fortune for themselves. And this is a human problem, which is why it crosses all professions. Look at Fauci. As soon as they foisted him in this position as “savior of humanity”, it immediately went to his head and he turned into yet another fame monster.

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PepesCovfefe 1 point ago +1 / -0

My wife must have misphonia; she hates the sound of me chewing.

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