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Lapstrake 51 points ago +52 / -1

In order to make this an effective red-pilling weapon we need to know three things.

Is this story verified?

Are the people pictured the victims, or just pics of people with Bell's Palsy?

Four people developed this out of how many?

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thisguy883 [S] 34 points ago +34 / -0

I have no clue if the story is fake or not, but 4chan's take on it was hilarious. Its one of the main topics they are talking about on /pol/ right now.

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MainstreamDeviant 35 points ago +35 / -0

The article didn’t say how many people developed the issue, but it did say that .5% of volunteers developed a “severe side effect”. So most people are more likely to get a severe side effect from the vaccine than they are to die from corona. So safe!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9030943/Four-volunteers-got-Pfizers-vaccine-developed-Bells-palsy.html

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iliv4gamez 28 points ago +28 / -0

.5% is a lot when you look at vaccinating millions.

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iliv4gamez 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yep. So you can get the vaccine and have a .5% chance of getting a serious side effect. Then you have to take into consideration the scaling of multiple vaccines potentially every month. That .5% is gonna come around eventually for a lot of people. How many times were these test subjects tested should be asked. There is a chance you won't even know you have covid / flu, and even if you do, the survival rate for it Trumps the risk chance of the vaccine. It's more dangerous to get the vaccine than it is to have Covid even in later age groups.

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remember1776 5 points ago +5 / -0

I saw a Reddit thread saying those numbers are in line with the general population rate for Bell’s Palsy and to immediately stop fearmongering Pfizer’s vaccine.

That’s rich, coming from the smoothbrains fearmongering about COVID 24/7.

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Anonyman 2 points ago +2 / -0

How does the general population get Bell's Palsy?

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MainstreamDeviant 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yup which is great for red pilling lefties, as their go to retort when told that corona has a death rate of less than 1% is “that’s a lot when millions get the virus!”

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Lapstrake 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thanks - finally a link to an actual article!

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Lapstrake 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ok thanks for the reply, fren.

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makethemwatch 4 points ago +4 / -0

And what are the odds a random set of people in a population that size develop Bells palsy normally

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Lapstrake 5 points ago +5 / -0

Thanks for the reply. Wifey is a nurse and when I told her that four people may have gotten Bell's palsy after taking the vaccine, she had quite a reaction.

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BeBest 4 points ago +4 / -0

So did the volunteers.

ba-dum-pssh

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asalonitis 2 points ago +2 / -0

why you dirty rat..

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Ilikefries 1 point ago +1 / -0

Meh see

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HuggableBear 2 points ago +2 / -0

The last point is the important one. According to the article, it's roughly the same rate as the general population.

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Lapstrake 5 points ago +5 / -0

That's pretty fungible though.

Zero percent had it happen with placebo.

Two of people got Bell's within 9 days of getting the vaccine.

When they say it is roughly the same rate, did they look at your chance of getting it within a 9-day timespan, or some other timespan?

With numbers like 2 and 4 of course it isn't proof of anything but the article also said that

fewer than 0.5 percent of the trial participants had serious side effects.

Which is quite alarming, considering at 25 year old female has a 0.0002% chance of dying if infected by the actual virus.

Why the hell would they ever want this stupid vaccine?

It would make more sense to offer them to be infected with the actual virus.

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HuggableBear 2 points ago +2 / -0

Zero percent had it happen with placebo

Yeah, and only 4 people had it happen with the vaccine. Was it 4 out of 4? Or 4 out of 40,000? Those are two very different numbers and their relationship to "zero percent" is also very different.

The article didn't mention the total number given the vaccine or the placebo, it just said that 4 was roughly the same as the general population. That means that neither 4 nor 0 have any meaning in that situation, as they are both within the margin of error, unfortunately.

I want to know absolute totals for both numbers before I make a judgment. Bell's Palsy can be expected to affect around 1 in 30-40,000 people in a year. If the sample size was even as small as 1000, 4 is still within the margin of error for biological effects. If it was 200,000 people, I'm actually more interested in why no one had it in the control group.

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Lapstrake 4 points ago +4 / -0

You seemed to have skipped over this:

fewer than 0.5 percent of the trial participants had serious side effects.

Which is much higher than the risk of death if you become infected with the actual virus if you are younger than 70 and have no co-morbidities.

I think most Americans would be better off becoming infected with the virus than taking the vaccine.

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HuggableBear 1 point ago +1 / -0

I didn't skip that, and I won't be taking this vaccine, but your argument has one major flaw.

You are comparing fatality rate to the rate of side effects. All other things being equal, I would prefer bell's palsy to death. I think everyone would. You can't compare those two frequencies when they are of drastically different severity.

Again, for this disease literally no one even knows what to do because they are lying about the numbers so badly, but just in general you shouldn't compare those two numbers.

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Lapstrake 1 point ago +1 / -0

but your argument has one major flaw.

Nowhere am I equating Bell's Palsy to death.

All I'm saying is that 25 yo healthy female has basically zero risk of dying from Corona, but is taking on an unknown risk of infertility, and 0.5% risk of serious side effects from the vaccine.

Doesn't it seem like she would be better off asking to be infected with the virus?

It would offer the same immunity without the risk.

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americanjerky 29 points ago +30 / -1

This vaccine turns you into Greta Thunberg - CONFIRMED

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2008RonPaul2012 11 points ago +11 / -0

When everyone is a functionally retarded autistic gnome, no one is.

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HuggableBear 4 points ago +4 / -0

One on the right looks like Vincent Donofrio in Men In Black

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americanjerky 1 point ago +1 / -0

something tells me she will be playing with marbles in her near future too.

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TEXinLA 16 points ago +16 / -0

Ha ha ha

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Burkmcbork 5 points ago +5 / -0

Fuck no it’s not temporary. Nerve damage and muscle wasting is what it is. Doctors generally hope to get an 85% recovery which is enough to not have Stallone face. A small amount of people, like myself, get really lucky and get 95% recovery with little permanent paralysis. Some people get unlucky and recover very little.

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LivebytheTendies 8 points ago +9 / -1

Interesting. Back in March I developed bells palsy. After getting sick from which I would imagine was covid?

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CantStumpTheCensored 5 points ago +6 / -1

muH FaKe NeWs...

hahaha this vaccine really looks safe.

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cucumbersandwich 5 points ago +5 / -0

Just showed my GF. She said, "That's how we can identify the morons." lol

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ILearnedToCode 1 point ago +1 / -0

Unfortunately alot of normies will take the vaccine, because they assume it is safe and will cause a return to normalcy. Not everyone who will take it is actually a moron, they just unfortunately are not in the loop...

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Patriot_1 4 points ago +4 / -0

Ok, but why did the girl on the left only put makeup on one eye???

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Ghost_of_Pinochet 4 points ago +4 / -0

That’s what winning looks like.... right?

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William_Wallace 3 points ago +3 / -0

Do you get a free cigar...

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flashersenpai 3 points ago +3 / -0

I feel bad for those people.

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TheEnclave89 2 points ago +2 / -0

Same, but they really should not have trusted this aberration of a vaccine.

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larc7thheaven 3 points ago +3 / -0

You forgot the part where the vaccine gave the recipent finger gun for the extra cool factor

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SonomaGA 3 points ago +3 / -0

USE CODE RUDY20 for 20% off your next cigar order!

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TheEnclave89 1 point ago +1 / -0

LOL

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TheEnclave89 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wiseguy syndrome lol

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Maui_Boy 2 points ago +2 / -0

I cracked up

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AwesomeOpossum 2 points ago +2 / -0

Damn...Bahahaha

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Shitposter69 2 points ago +2 / -0

I laughed way too hard. Why does the woman on the left only have eye makeup on the functioning side though? Kind of accentuates it a little bit...

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MidDayMAGA 2 points ago +2 / -0

Helllloooooooo (in Jerry Seinfeld voice)

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adigregorio 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nyah

A+

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MightyTheme 2 points ago +2 / -0

Dreamworks movies were predictive programming.

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AdamSmith1776 1 point ago +1 / -0

Need monocles.

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thedon3q 1 point ago +1 / -0

This explains AOC

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 1 point ago +1 / -0

Greta Thunberg was the first person to receive the Pfizer vaccine.

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/809e14d4f67391a758bd6dd6db28c80e

Change my mind.

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latsbruh 1 point ago +1 / -0

its only .02% guys! But the kkk has 5000 members in the US! theyre the real threat! 0.0001 is more than .02

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AtomicShnoz 1 point ago +1 / -0

All this and the "immunity" lasts for 6 months until the next wuflu season.... LOL dumb fucks.

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theneverman 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Come in here dear boy have a cigar, you're gonna go far...."

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Shitposter69 1 point ago +1 / -0

I laughed way too hard. Why does the woman on the left only have eye makeup on the functioning side though? Kind of accentuates it a little bit...

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Independenceforever 1 point ago +1 / -0

LITERAL JOKER FACES

ARE WE READY TO OPEN THE FUCKING COUNTRY AND BURN THE MASKS YET?