I have no clue if the story is fake or not, but 4chan's take on it was hilarious. Its one of the main topics they are talking about on /pol/ right now.
The article didn’t say how many people developed the issue, but it did say that .5% of volunteers developed a “severe side effect”. So most people are more likely to get a severe side effect from the vaccine than they are to die from corona. So safe!
Yup which is great for red pilling lefties, as their go to retort when told that corona has a death rate of less than 1% is “that’s a lot when millions get the virus!”
Thanks for the reply. Wifey is a nurse and when I told her that four people may have gotten Bell's palsy after taking the vaccine, she had quite a reaction.
Yeah, and only 4 people had it happen with the vaccine. Was it 4 out of 4? Or 4 out of 40,000? Those are two very different numbers and their relationship to "zero percent" is also very different.
The article didn't mention the total number given the vaccine or the placebo, it just said that 4 was roughly the same as the general population. That means that neither 4 nor 0 have any meaning in that situation, as they are both within the margin of error, unfortunately.
I want to know absolute totals for both numbers before I make a judgment. Bell's Palsy can be expected to affect around 1 in 30-40,000 people in a year. If the sample size was even as small as 1000, 4 is still within the margin of error for biological effects. If it was 200,000 people, I'm actually more interested in why no one had it in the control group.
In order to make this an effective red-pilling weapon we need to know three things.
Is this story verified?
Are the people pictured the victims, or just pics of people with Bell's Palsy?
Four people developed this out of how many?
I have no clue if the story is fake or not, but 4chan's take on it was hilarious. Its one of the main topics they are talking about on /pol/ right now.
The article didn’t say how many people developed the issue, but it did say that .5% of volunteers developed a “severe side effect”. So most people are more likely to get a severe side effect from the vaccine than they are to die from corona. So safe!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9030943/Four-volunteers-got-Pfizers-vaccine-developed-Bells-palsy.html
.5% is a lot when you look at vaccinating millions.
Yup which is great for red pilling lefties, as their go to retort when told that corona has a death rate of less than 1% is “that’s a lot when millions get the virus!”
Thanks - finally a link to an actual article!
Ok thanks for the reply, fren.
And what are the odds a random set of people in a population that size develop Bells palsy normally
Thanks for the reply. Wifey is a nurse and when I told her that four people may have gotten Bell's palsy after taking the vaccine, she had quite a reaction.
So did the volunteers.
ba-dum-pssh
why you dirty rat..
The last point is the important one. According to the article, it's roughly the same rate as the general population.
That's pretty fungible though.
Zero percent had it happen with placebo.
Two of people got Bell's within 9 days of getting the vaccine.
When they say it is roughly the same rate, did they look at your chance of getting it within a 9-day timespan, or some other timespan?
With numbers like 2 and 4 of course it isn't proof of anything but the article also said that
Which is quite alarming, considering at 25 year old female has a 0.0002% chance of dying if infected by the actual virus.
Why the hell would they ever want this stupid vaccine?
It would make more sense to offer them to be infected with the actual virus.
Yeah, and only 4 people had it happen with the vaccine. Was it 4 out of 4? Or 4 out of 40,000? Those are two very different numbers and their relationship to "zero percent" is also very different.
The article didn't mention the total number given the vaccine or the placebo, it just said that 4 was roughly the same as the general population. That means that neither 4 nor 0 have any meaning in that situation, as they are both within the margin of error, unfortunately.
I want to know absolute totals for both numbers before I make a judgment. Bell's Palsy can be expected to affect around 1 in 30-40,000 people in a year. If the sample size was even as small as 1000, 4 is still within the margin of error for biological effects. If it was 200,000 people, I'm actually more interested in why no one had it in the control group.
You seemed to have skipped over this:
Which is much higher than the risk of death if you become infected with the actual virus if you are younger than 70 and have no co-morbidities.
I think most Americans would be better off becoming infected with the virus than taking the vaccine.