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This is dispooted. You literally have no evidence of this ruling. Literally anyone could have typed this debonked fake news article. You do realize literally debonked.
Ah...but now that the Wisconsin supreme court has determined these votes to be unlawful..the the state legislature has every right to consider only the Trump electors
They never will. Wisconsin is extremely corrupt on both sides. Ask Paul Ryan.
Please help expose the real “root” and model - Racine, Wisconsin - where Biden endorsed a billion dollar referendum for Community Health, Education and Policing reform rigged in the April primary and recount where they passed the “most over-arching COVID order or ordinance in the nation”.
Brad Smith from Racine is the President of Microsoft and key advisor to Gates, Fauci, Zuckerberg, Bezos, Buffett and the global elite using COVID and rigged elections to forge the Great Reset and the real Agenda of modern enslavement with ElectionGuard, Dominion, SolarWinds, VotingWorks, Defending Democracy Initiative, Weill Cornell, Mason Lab, NBA (Caron Butler and LeBron James in particular), CTCL, The New Deal and other partners.
Zuckerberg and CTCL gave the initial money to the corrupt mayor of Racine to then get other other cities involved (Milwaukee, Madison, Green Bay, Kenosha). Paul Kline spoke in detail about it at the hearings.
This is why Nancy Pelosi said:
”No pressure, it’s all riding on Wisconsin, no pressure”
Slavery never “ended” in Racine with Joshua Glover and the Underground Railroad. It evolved.
These are all very important links that will help prove the connections to Racine. Please help share this information far and wide. There is so much more to this story.
I live and work in kenosha and racine respectively. It's always been off the national radar of news. Now it feels like it's about to become a battlefront if Trump get the 4 more years which the public voice has demanded.
They never will. Wisconsin is extremely corrupt on both sides. Ask Paul Ryan.
Please help expose the real “root” and model - Racine, Wisconsin - where Biden endorsed a billion dollar referendum for Community Health, Education and Policing reform rigged in the April primary and recount where they passed the “most over-arching COVID order or ordinance in the nation”.
Brad Smith from Racine is the President of Microsoft and key advisor to Gates, Fauci, Zuckerberg, Bezos, Buffett and the global elite using COVID and rigged elections to forge the Great Reset and the real Agenda of modern enslavement with ElectionGuard, Dominion, SolarWinds, VotingWorks, Defending Democracy Initiative, Weill Cornell, Mason Lab, NBA (Caron Butler and LeBron James in particular), CTCL, The New Deal and other partners.
Zuckerberg and CTCL gave the initial money to the corrupt mayor of Racine to then get other other cities involved (Milwaukee, Madison, Green Bay, Kenosha). Paul Kline spoke in detail about it at the hearings.
This is why Nancy Pelosi said:
”No pressure, it’s all riding on Wisconsin, no pressure”
Slavery never “ended” in Racine with Joshua Glover and the Underground Railroad. It evolved.
These are all very important links that will help prove the connections to Racine. Please help share this information far and wide. There is so much more to this story.
To all - this comment was posted twice because the site went down in the process, however it should be posted 1000 times an hour - this is some of the most important information on the Internet. Please help share.
TBH that is the definition of spam. Instead, could you please post all this info as a new post, then you can link to it later as appropriate? It's interesting content, for sure, but frankly it's taking up my entire screen as I try to read other replies.
The new justice, a liberal, who campaigned on being unbiased, has entirely shit on her campaign promise in one session. She was a total bitch the whole time.
Yep. This is yet another reason why you never let leftists be judges. If a conservative is making the call, we don't know what the outcome will be. That's usually good (except SCOTUS, they shat the bed). Leftist judges, we know what they'll do before the trial starts. That's very bad.
You laugh, but I've had friends explain that their employers are demanding it be mandatory, and their family members are telling them they'll force the issue.
Oh they will force the vaccine on everyone. They'll have scanners at grocery stores where you have to scan you vaccine card just to get in. Wait and see. People don't think it can happen, but they didn't think an election like this could be stolen either.
From the conclusion: Accordingly, we conclude that the Respondents'
interpretation of Wisconsin's election laws is erroneous.
Additionally, we conclude that Emergency Order #12 did not render
all Wisconsin electors "indefinitely confined," thereby obviating
the requirement of a valid photo identification to obtain an
absentee ballot
Wisconsin courts have been trying to run the clock out since this started. They want to wait until Jan 21 to say, "yeah, all that shit was illegal, don't do it again." They don't want to enforce the law in Trump's favor. Fucking RINOs everywhere. Wisconsin is the easiest pin to knock down, the trick is for the WI GOP and Trump lawyers to get the courts to get off their asses in a timely manner.
This is a big deal though, and means Trump wins WI easily on this alone.
It's an even bigger deal for optics, because this wasn't post-election legislation - it was "hey we knew you were going to cheat, we filed before the election, and now you shall fix it." This is CORRECTING and/or VALIDATING and/or LEGALIZING the election, not overturning it.
How? I was under the impression we had a secret ballot system. Even if those votes were fraudulent once they get entered into the tabulator there is nothing linking the voter's information to the ballot.
I.e. You have 100k fraudulent ballots but because of the secret ballot system you can't point to an individual ballot and say "That is John Doe's ballot!" to see who he voted for. You can't throw out votes when you can't point to a voter and ballot combination proving who they voted for.
Yes, but the Supreme Court will likely not rule against the lower courts decision as the decision was made based on sound interpretation of the law minus the dissent of the 2 activist communists that should be dragged out of their office and beaten publicly for abusing their seat on the bench and having no idea what the purpose of said bench is for.
So expect the President of the United States to make an executive order that the election was stolen and therefore he refuses to seat the electors. Boom !!!!
This was throughout the entire State, not just one County. For that matter, where did this not occur? Along with mailing out ballots that weren't requested.
I got ballots mailed to me multiple times, over a period of a LOT longer than 3 days. No way am I the only one. And I don't live in Dane or Milwaukee Counties. If Dane County allowed this illegality for only 3 days, they're doing better than the rest of the State. There were virtually no limits on this. The propaganda was such that people accepted it as normal.
And if you were paying any attention at all these past four years you would recognize the pattern of propaganda insisting that up is down and left is right. Just because they've been screaming that they won the election at the top of their lungs does not make any of what they're saying true.
There are narrow rules for who can vote absentee - the state accepted absentee ballots from people who fall outside the statutory definition of indefinitely confined. If applied strictly, this would invalidate a large percentage of absentee ballots.
It's not just accepted absentee ballots...It sounds like to me, WI tried to basically tell voters "you are indefinitely confined and will be voting absentee." Where the law states that declaring oneself indefinitely confined is something the VOTER must do themselves. Not a rogue governor cause "muh Shanghai Shivers"
Yup. They flooded the country with mail-in ballots so that they had a plausible explanation for 90-100% voter turnout in the counties where they committed fraud.
Right, keep in mind that from 2000-2016 in WI, only 800-1,600 every election cycle claimed “indefinite confinement” and a reason to receive and submit an absentee ballot without presenting an ID. In 2020? 169,282 people claimed indefinite confinement in WI (covid was not a valid reason to claim indefinite confinement). So it would seem that based on this ruling, that election officials and even the governor of WI, proclaimed 169,000 people as indefinitely confined which subverts WI election laws because only the voter can claim indefinite confinement (in accordance with WI law) and, I would assume, invalidates a large number of these votes, maybe even all of them
Every fraudulent vote disenfranchises a legal vote, so 169k potentially fraudulent votes is also 169k disenfranchised legal votes. There is MORE EVIDENCE the "indefinitely confined" votes are the fraudulent ones than any legal vote were fraudulent. This can be better said as re-enfranchising 169k legal votes that were defrauded by the 169k "indefinitely confined votes"
1/6 is what matters. Pence tosses anything that's still fraudulent. Pelosi throws a hissy fit and uses every procedural trick in the book. Meeting decides nothing. DJT assumes emergency power indefinitely, per EOs written in 2006 and 2018. Qw need to be ready for this possibility which gives us 2 weeks to muster in DC clogging the streets, and conclude appropriately.
I'm not saying this is the case, but if 169k votes are proven without any reasonable doubt to be fraudulent, every judge in the land should throw them out.
Speaking in absolutes like this demonstrates subversion or a significantly below avg IQ.. or both.
It looks like this interpretation takes the power from the governor and clerks and puts it in the legislators' hands. The law must be followed. It would be huge if ballots were disqualified for this reason because it's plenty to flip the state.
The statute leaves it to the voter alone to declare they are indefinitely confined. So the clerk, SoS, governor, etc has no business declaring huge numbers of people are indefinitely confined.
Yeah, basically the fake governor Tony fuckface Evers, SoS and others said, "Don't go out, we'll send you ballots."
It wasn't lawful. Ballots came, people voted. But per the law, the fake governor Tony fuckface Evers, the SoS and others lied to those voters, because those votes are illegal. They basically stole votes from voters.
Wisconsin law only permits absentee for those who are indefinitely confined. It seems that counties or officials other than the voters themselves declared those voters to be indefinitely confined (because...COVID). This says only the voters themselves can make that determination; so if they did not, their absentee ballots would be invalid per Wisconsin’s laws.
But you know, we can’t disenfranchise them so we’ll just count them anyway.
Actually Wisconsin is a state that requires voter ID, and absentee ballots must be requested by the voter. Any voter who requests an absent voting ballot must also provide a proof of ID to receive said ballot.
There is a “Loophole” for voters that are Indefinitely Confined, where they do not need to provide an ID, or proof of signature if they are Indefinitely Confined. However, they must actually be Indefinitely Confined, and not just too lazy or scared (COVID) to vote in person.
In the 2018 mid-terms, there were around 60K Indefinitely Confined voters in the state of Wisconsin. In 2020 that number has been exacerbated to 200K.
The state needs to question these voters who claimed they are Indefinitely Confined, not only to ensure they are in fact Indefinitely Confined, but also to enquire that they actually voted and that their vote was counted for the candidate that they voted for.
This is my first comment on this site... so go easy on me.
How would that affect the case argued Saturday on the recount (Trump v. Biden)? if the voter decides if they are indefinitely confined then they are entitled to vote absentee?
Yes, but there is a process for that, which requires identification verification. I think there was a blanket order deeming large chunks of the population as indefinitely confined, skirting the process. This ruling says that’s not acceptable. So any absentee votes that did not follow the process per the law should be invalidated.
I thought the trick in Wisconsin was that the thousands of voters declared themselves indefinitely confined because they were told to do that by the officials.
If I recall, part of their excuse for implementing widespread mail in voting was because they claimed residents were indefinitely confined. This seems to point that the courts disagree with that decision
I'm glad Mark Jefferson and the Republican Party of Wisconsin was fighting this bullshit even before the election. The "steal" was flooding the election with these illegal mail in ballots without chain of custody.
No doesn't say that, doesn't say that specifically anyway. it infers it but until I read "all ballots must be thrown out" or whatever, it doesn't mean that.
Right but each individual had to sign saying they were indefinitely confined in order to get a ballot, and this is saying that you cannot challenge that statement.
Now if there was evidence where the clerk sent absentee ballots out without the voter having signed a declaration that they believed they were indefinitely confined then there would be something.
The state declared everybody indefinitely confined due to covid and mailed out ballots, and they also eliminated the requirement for signature matching another security measures.
I would say they are likely to throw them out but at the least this allows someone to argue that they need to go back and do an audit or better matching and validation, and figure out if there were issues with the mail in ballots given that they should not have been allowed in the first place.
However the actions already been taken and now the focus should be on the remedy. Remedy will probably not be too entirely throw them out.
This order by itself, no. It's declaratory relief which is relevant only going forward, and injunctive relief had already been granted before the election barring orders that tell people they're indefinitely confined.
However, the Trump SCOWI case currently pending might use this opinion as a jumping off point to invalidate the ballots. They need to go farther though, as this opinion still says people can determine for themselves if they are indefinitely confined, which is basically what happened with those ballots. They need to determine that individuals can be disqualified upon review or something.
Aren't the judges essentially saying in THIS case that yes the votes were illegal? And those are the same judges hearing the case from Saturday, it's basically the same complaint posed in both suits and they've already sided with Trump's side in this first case
Not exactly, this lawsuit started when guidance was circulated that due to COVID-19, people are considered indefinitely confined, which is wrong. Nobody else can designate you as indefinitely confined. Hell, even the liberals on the court concurred as far as that goes.
However, as long as people can self-determine that they are indefinitely confined and there's no mechanism to check if this is bullshit or not, there are no grounds to question the ballots, insofar as it can't be shown that a clerk designated them as indefinitely confined and they didn't do so themselves.
We don't know yet. This is just the lawsuit that defines the law. The new lawsuit asks for a remedy of ballot invalidation. This lawsuit only asks that the courts clarify.
no, what's happened has happened at this point will focus on the remedy and potentially additional security measures like matching signatures, which were thrown out the window along with the rest of the emergency order.
I think an injunction had already been placed back in September but the damage had already been done. There was a 300% increase to around 20,000 "confined" ballots I think. The next step is to go through all of these and find out who was actually "confined" and who registered under the illegal actions of the Sec of State and WEC.
Absolutely keep praying. I believe that our most powerful weapon is the fact that almost every person trying to pull this thing out is a believer and that so much of his base is praying for him daily. When all institutional power fails us, the highest court of all may rule in our favor.
Perhaps this makes it a contested election where Pence can decide which slate of electors to accept or the legislature can decide. It ain't over 'til it's over
Moreover it reiterates that Covid by itself, including shelter in place or other emergency orders by the Governor or health officials, does not legally qualify someone to declare themselves indefinitely confined. It's only due to things like age, actual illness, or disability. In short, you could even have Covid and it's likely that you're not "indefinitely confined" according to the statute (since Covid is not a long-term disease).
No need to worry about the CCPvirus vaccine being mandated. You'll just need to take it if you want to work or travel. Then you'll also need to sign onto the great reset, forfeiting your right to own any kind of proporty for the rest of your life.
And you'll be happy. Because: slavery is freedom. War is peace. We have always been at war with east Asia. And everyone knows what's in room 101.
Everything is on the line, but I suppose you already knew that.
If we can find cases where absentee votes were sent out but the voter did not sign a statement saying they believe themselves to be indefinitely confined, those ballates are thrown out.
If they signed that statement, which I think was made super easy on the envelope itself, we'd have to challenge every case individually. We can't have the whole class tossed. At least that's what somebody else is saying. I don't think we should get too overconfident because of this. It's one more avenue of fraud, along with all the others thast probably happened in every precinct and every race.
40 Accordingly, we conclude that the Respondents' interpretation of Wisconsin's election laws is erroneous. Additionally, we conclude that Emergency Order #12 did not render all Wisconsin electors "indefinitely confined," thereby obviating the requirement of a valid photo identification to obtain an absentee ballot.
Thanks. Without specified action I think it's meaningless. We need decisive action.
If it pertained absentee ballots, (only one avenue of fraud among many) the individuals declaring themselves indefinitely confined could be investigated on a case by case basis. 160,000 of them. Is that your understanding of the process and ruling?
Every
County had ballots mailed to us, repeatedly, without asking for them. I don't see how it's possible to determine a legit count.
Everyone is allowed to determine for themselves if they are indefinitely confined, Emergency Order 12 did not do that. Any absentee ballot cast had to have been sent by someone who signed a statement saying they believed themselves to be indefinitely confined. My mother lives in Wisconsin and voted absentee, she had to sign that statement before she could receive her mail in ballot. However if there were counties that just sent out ballots without requiring that signed statement those ballots would be invalid.
EVERT County sent out mail in balots, multiple times, without being requested. This was announced early, and often. I'd be surprised if there's a State that didn't engage in this bs.
You're talking about absentee ballots. Yes, that's a process that normally works very well. "Mail in ballots" are different, and new. We got them repeatedly. There's no way to sort out an honest vote count.
Perhaps all that were mailed did have that statement? I didn't read the ones I got that closely. I certainly didn't request any. And it was in the news all across the Nation that ballots would be mailed to everyone, even without being requested. If some States abstained from that, they're the minority.
Every precinct, every race is suspect. With 6 Counties more than enough to overturn the Presidential race for the whole Country.
I'm from WI and still have family there. My family members that requested mail in ballots had to first sign a statement saying they were confined before they would send them a ballot. I've heard that was the process all across the state. Of course if that was universally followed or not is to be seen, if not then there is an opportunity to get rid of some ballots but it's going to be an arduous process to find them seeing as it has to be a ballot by ballot process.
Guys, this isn't an election suit. This is "old" suit, challenging changes in election law. Look at the date of filing (September).
That case was decided before the elections. I guess they finally published their full opinion today, that's it.
And to the "votes to be thrown out" theme - it's impossible - even if you single out every person who illegally voted as confined, you don't know whom they voted for. All the ballots are now mixed together.
This decision can now be used in election suit in WI, but that's it. Maybe, and this is a big maybe, WI SC will do what's right and will rule election as contested.
"Duly inaugurated" is what determines CiC our military has the duty to obey. The definition of this has never been tested. We cannot allow Bidert to be even sham inaugurated. EVERYTHING rides on this!
Certification means nothing. The legislature picks the electors. The legislature is sending the electors they feel that are correct. There never even used to be a national election for president. The state legislatures used to vote. As the constitution states.
The government did not force voters to declare themselves indefinitely confined, they did that on their own accord. As long as they signed the statement saying they believed themselves to be indefinitely confined (for whatever reason) the vote is valid.
No it's not that simple. There are many problems with this, but in order for it to martter each case would have to be handled individually. 80x our usual number of such cases says that isn't going to happen. This points ourt one more avenue of fraud.
Not much. Basically if there are cases where absentee ballots were sent out to people who did not sign a statement that they believed they were indefinitely confined then those would be invalidated, but I know of no cases of that.
Sounds like this would support an action for an order invalidating abstenee mail-in ballots obtianed without voter ID in Dane County, WI (in which Madison is located).
No, Dane county required you to sign a statement saying you believed yourself to be indefinitely confined before you would be sent your ballot. That removed the ID requirement.
Not much. Basically if there are cases where absentee ballots were sent out to people who did not sign a statement that they believed they were indefinitely confined then those would be invalidated, but I know of no cases of that.
It won't. Each absentee voter had to sign a statement saying they believed themselves to be indefinitely confined before they could receive a mail in ballot. That exempts those voters from the ID requirement. This is just saying that the government can't declare anyone indefinitely confined, only the individual can. Nothing changes unless there were absentee ballots sent to voters who did not sign that statement, which I haven't heard of yet.
The voters had to identify BEFORE voting and show an ID to get a ballot. The clerk and gov declared everyone indefinitely confined and blindly sent out ballots.
I thought the indefinitely confined route was a way to circumvent showing ID.
IIRC they tried to say early on to use covid as an excuse, but their supreme court said no, but even so the number of people who reported as confined was drastically more than in previous years.
No. All you needed to do was sign a statement saying you were indefinitely confined. This exempts you from the ID requirement. That is what my mom did in WI. If you were saying you were confined to your house how would it make sense for them to require you to come in in person and show ID?
It means we won Wisconsin and now everyone without their heads in the sand knows it... but it doesn’t say that they will actually give us the win.. because so many of our politicians have sold us out to China and the want Joe “filth of the earth” Biden in the whitehouse to do China’s bidding
Not much. Basically if any absentee ballots were sent but that voter didn't sign a statement that they believed themselves to be indefinitely confined then that ballot would be invalid, but I haven't seen any cases of this, because in WI to get the ballot mailed to you you had to sign that statement first.
Because they ruled that even though people voted by saying they were indefinitely confined, throwing away their vote would be disenfranchising them of their constitutional right to vote.
All the absentee voters signed statements saying they believed themselves to be indefinitely confined, and the law makes it clear that that is all it takes, even if they believed it falsely or lied, in the eyes of the law they are legally entitled to an absentee ballot and exempt from the ID requirement.
Wow, total clown world. But I blame the GOP and Republicans in general, you can't win wars by "fighting in good faith" when the other side are playing nasty.
It's tough because what is the alternative? Either the individual or the government decides if someone is 'indefinitely confined' or not, and I sure as hell don't want it to be the government.
I think we can take the average percentage of indefinitely confined people from prior years as a baseline, inflate a bit using health statistics for people who were not allowed to go out (senior homes - people were not allowed out or in, they were confined for sure), and deduct whatever is remaining.
But that's a huge debate that might take months, because we probably don't even agree on the health data in the first place lol.
WI SC said right in that ruling that any dispute would need to be handled on a vote-by-vote basis. So that wouldn't work. We will need to find each vote that was sent in absentee but that voter didn't sign a statement that they are confined. That's a pretty tall order unfortunately, but could still take a least of chunk of votes out of play.
According to the article bwlow, it states "The Wisconsin Supreme Court has ruled in favor of Mark Jefferson and the Republican Party of Wisconsin. But the court noted that a determination must be make in every case before tossing a ballot, as President Trump has sought in a separate lawsuit."
"indefinitely confined"? sounds like Covid Lockdowns. And if so they're right, no Governor has any right to tell you that you must stay home and wear masks. Commerce, individual rights and personal freedoms don't end because of a scamdemic
looks like its the old "you should have complained before the election", to which we all know prior to the election they would have tossed the lawsuit for failing to show injury. weasel in the extreme
Might want to read the ruling again...this is not a win unfortunately. They said it is indeed against the law to use covid as an excuse that you are indefinitely confined, and in the same breath, that individuals are allowed to determine if they are indefinitely confined. Makes no sense whatsoever.
Yes, that was the one that they 'won', but if you read the ruling...it was hardly a win. They wanted the ballots of those people who claimed they were indefinitely confined thrown out. But they worded the ruling that it was up to the individuals to determine their own status, so pretty much making the law a moot point.
My mom voted absentee in WI, before they would send her a ballot she had to sign a statement saying she was indefinitely confined. so if that's what all the counties did then there may not be many that are in violation.
What county? I voted absentee in the Spring election. I had to fill out a form online, confirm my ID, and then they sent me a ballot.
However, this is arguing that the fake governor Tony fuckface Evers and the SoS just deemed a bunch of people confined, and then shipped ballots. This is a normal harvesting tactic. Spam out ballots, collect them, lose chain of custody, bank on no one caring.
Dane. And yeah if they spammed out ballots that's a big opportunity. Gonna take a lot of work since WI SC said it has to be a ballot-by-ballot process but whatever it takes!
Even though people voted via the "indefinitely confined" method, which they should not have, they still voted and throwing away their votes would be disenfranchisement them of their constitutional right to vote.
The requested remedy was deemed unconstitutional, as they cannot show that these votes were fraudulent and if they had an objection to this, they should have raised it BEFORE the voters had voted using this method.
Specifically on the indefinitely confined ballots, laches was not invoked. The law is simply retarded and let's people self-determine their status with NO statutory checks, so the courts can't do anything.
Ok, I decided to skim the document rather than wait for someone hear to answer. The document appears to be only the opinions of the justices. There are 7 justices named and 3 opinions documented. If I am reading correctly, the majority appears to agree with the plaintiffs (republicans). The document does not look to indicate what the remedy will be.
If Trump can find loads of ballots that were mailed it buy voters who didn't sign a statement saying they believed they were indefinitely confined those ballots are invalid.
Wisconsin Supreme Court: "The Campaign waited until after the election to raise selective challenges ... We conclude the challenge to indefinitely confined voter ballots is without merit, and that laches bars relief on the remaining three categories of challenged ballots."
I don’t see how this is a big win for Trump. Or maybe I just don’t understand. But Newsmax has an article that the court ruled against Trump 4-3 this morning.
They ruled against him in one case and in favor of him in another. Two different cases. This is what I'm reading. In the case that was ruled against, the court said he couldn't argue to have ALL the ballots thrown out once. In the case that was ruled in his favor, there are as many as 215,000 illegal ballots that could not be counted but each ballot would have to be considered individually. We don't need 215,000 to win Wisconsin, only need 20,000 or so.
Quick someone explain like I just took the vaccine.
The vaccine was administered against their will.
To vaccined man:
It means they called people indefinitely confined and waived ID requirements just because covid was scary.
This ruling says that is not lawful.
*TLDR: Commies, get fucked
This is dispooted. You literally have no evidence of this ruling. Literally anyone could have typed this debonked fake news article. You do realize literally debonked.
debonked hat trick
Mate you cannot debonk something without fact checking first.
Someone please debonk my wife.
-cuck dems, undeniably
pics or it isn't real.
A debonking just flew over my house
I just debonked this comment so now it is rebonked
Sorry I have just gotten word that it is doubleboonked now
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEBOOOOOOOOONKED!
Whatever. I can't even... ...
I just turned off my monitor! I dont see any ruling! DEBOONKED!
https://www.wicourts.gov/sc/opinion/DisplayDocument.pdf?content=pdf&seqNo=315283
DISPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTT!!!!!
Ah...but now that the Wisconsin supreme court has determined these votes to be unlawful..the the state legislature has every right to consider only the Trump electors
They never will. Wisconsin is extremely corrupt on both sides. Ask Paul Ryan.
Please help expose the real “root” and model - Racine, Wisconsin - where Biden endorsed a billion dollar referendum for Community Health, Education and Policing reform rigged in the April primary and recount where they passed the “most over-arching COVID order or ordinance in the nation”.
Brad Smith from Racine is the President of Microsoft and key advisor to Gates, Fauci, Zuckerberg, Bezos, Buffett and the global elite using COVID and rigged elections to forge the Great Reset and the real Agenda of modern enslavement with ElectionGuard, Dominion, SolarWinds, VotingWorks, Defending Democracy Initiative, Weill Cornell, Mason Lab, NBA (Caron Butler and LeBron James in particular), CTCL, The New Deal and other partners.
Zuckerberg and CTCL gave the initial money to the corrupt mayor of Racine to then get other other cities involved (Milwaukee, Madison, Green Bay, Kenosha). Paul Kline spoke in detail about it at the hearings.
This is why Nancy Pelosi said:
Slavery never “ended” in Racine with Joshua Glover and the Underground Railroad. It evolved.
These are all very important links that will help prove the connections to Racine. Please help share this information far and wide. There is so much more to this story.
https://cornellsun.com/2020/03/23/how-dr-anthony-fauci-m-d-66-became-americas-most-trusted-disease-expert/
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Council_for_a_Community_of_Democracies
https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2017/10/19/the-green-bay-packers-and-microsoft-team-up-to-bring-the-worlds-innovations-and-tech-expertise-to-the-heart-of-wisconsin/
https://news.mit.edu/2020/microsoft-president-brad-smith-talks-data-covid-19-why-we-should-worry-about-digital-9-11-0521
https://time.com/5669537/brad-smith-microsoft-big-tech/
https://news.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2020/05/13/microsoft-electionguard-pilot-wisconsin/
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/30/racine-lawsuit-tests-how-much-power-local-officials-have-amid-covid-19/3284631001/
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/education/2020/03/31/biden-endorses-milwaukee-racine-school-referendums-unusual-move/5094687002/
https://www.fox6now.com/news/new-covid-19-spit-test-being-studied-in-racine-may-bring-faster-results
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/special-reports/2018/04/06/foxconns-promised-jobs-boom-could-sputter-few-miles-away-racine/382026002/
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2019/may/25/microsoft-s-electionguard-a-trojan-horse-for-a-military-industrial-takeover-of-us-elections/
https://journaltimes.com/news/local/helping-others-still-key-element-of-brays-nature/article_f9d0d203-baf3-5073-bf9a-5dcc82336d2b.html
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2019/may/25/microsoft-s-electionguard-a-trojan-horse-for-a-military-industrial-takeover-of-us-elections/
https://archive.is/L3FTe
http://www.thewheelerreport.com/wheeler_docs/files/0703mason.pdf
Expose the “Root” and model - Racine, Wisconsin.
Holy fuck
Based Pede is Based. I'll spread it as much as I can.
wow i was really feeling good about this ruling but this has me worried. how can this not be everywhere???
ill share this pede but its scary stuff it feels like weve been playing a rigged game whole time
I live and work in kenosha and racine respectively. It's always been off the national radar of news. Now it feels like it's about to become a battlefront if Trump get the 4 more years which the public voice has demanded.
how come you haven't mentioned that the Chinese Foxxcon is in southeastern WI?
laughs in democrat
LMFAO this is the greatest thing I've ever seen!
debonked already
Since when has the laws mattered to Democrats? They have the media on their side to cover up all their crimes and fruad.
IIRC, that’s over 200k votes. “indefinitely confined individuals” went from like 10k historically to over 200k for this year. GET FUCKED COMMIES
They never will. Wisconsin is extremely corrupt on both sides. Ask Paul Ryan.
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So now can Trump sue them in court?
Which court is this? I can't keep them all straight.
Wisconsin Supreme court.
The new justice, a liberal, who campaigned on being unbiased, has entirely shit on her campaign promise in one session. She was a total bitch the whole time.
Yep. This is yet another reason why you never let leftists be judges. If a conservative is making the call, we don't know what the outcome will be. That's usually good (except SCOTUS, they shat the bed). Leftist judges, we know what they'll do before the trial starts. That's very bad.
Why don’t you dig into her background and see where he campaign money came from. Oh yeah, that’s right, GEORGE FUCKING SOROS
Was this the one with the dummy Jill judge that called trump a King and was reeeing?
cuomo says it just a legal opinion. How dare you misgender her
The vaccine was ineffective in making everyone indefinitely confined, therefore obtaining a ballot without ID was unlawful...
Give it time...
You laugh, but I've had friends explain that their employers are demanding it be mandatory, and their family members are telling them they'll force the issue.
This shit is happening. It's insane.
i dont get how they think they can force u to take an experimental treatment! indemnity protected too! ppl are insane
Oh they will force the vaccine on everyone. They'll have scanners at grocery stores where you have to scan you vaccine card just to get in. Wait and see. People don't think it can happen, but they didn't think an election like this could be stolen either.
Amy Schumer sat on xim :[
Someone shot me with a blowdart
HELP!
被你搞砸了，你這骯髒的共產主義者
Might need some Viagra for that.
That still doesnt explain why Bill wouldnt sleep with Hillary. Its no miracle drug.
Vladgra.
Ftfy
Thank you Bob Dole, very cool!
Can confirm
Fucking blyat, Aleksi!!!!! No confirmations! Did you not read manual?!?!? No confirming with capitalist pig!
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PREEEEESE CONSEEEED
I read that in an Asian Jeb bush voice
Lmaoo
I FUCKING KNEW IT!
This is so hilarious I have to save it.
Comment of the day!!
RIP
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From the conclusion: Accordingly, we conclude that the Respondents' interpretation of Wisconsin's election laws is erroneous. Additionally, we conclude that Emergency Order #12 did not render all Wisconsin electors "indefinitely confined," thereby obviating the requirement of a valid photo identification to obtain an absentee ballot
idk, but sounds to me like all the mail in votes without voter ID are INVALID!
Agreed. Waiting for legal interpretations but that is how I believe the majority decided
It can be referenced in the upcoming lawsuit. "You guys remember what you said last week?"
Did this reply just come out, then, or did someone post something from 6 weeks ago like it was breaking news just to get us all excited for nothing?
Jesus Christ, they waited till this long after the fact to say "yeah, that was illegal."
God damn. Talk about running out the clock.
filed originally back in MARCH too. CRAZY
Wisconsin courts have been trying to run the clock out since this started. They want to wait until Jan 21 to say, "yeah, all that shit was illegal, don't do it again." They don't want to enforce the law in Trump's favor. Fucking RINOs everywhere. Wisconsin is the easiest pin to knock down, the trick is for the WI GOP and Trump lawyers to get the courts to get off their asses in a timely manner.
This is a big deal though, and means Trump wins WI easily on this alone.
It's an even bigger deal for optics, because this wasn't post-election legislation - it was "hey we knew you were going to cheat, we filed before the election, and now you shall fix it." This is CORRECTING and/or VALIDATING and/or LEGALIZING the election, not overturning it.
How? I was under the impression we had a secret ballot system. Even if those votes were fraudulent once they get entered into the tabulator there is nothing linking the voter's information to the ballot.
I.e. You have 100k fraudulent ballots but because of the secret ballot system you can't point to an individual ballot and say "That is John Doe's ballot!" to see who he voted for. You can't throw out votes when you can't point to a voter and ballot combination proving who they voted for.
It leans that way. Let's see if the law gets enforced.
Expect the SoS to appeal this to the SCOTUS
Yes, but the Supreme Court will likely not rule against the lower courts decision as the decision was made based on sound interpretation of the law minus the dissent of the 2 activist communists that should be dragged out of their office and beaten publicly for abusing their seat on the bench and having no idea what the purpose of said bench is for.
So expect the President of the United States to make an executive order that the election was stolen and therefore he refuses to seat the electors. Boom !!!!
How will that even work? It’s a legislative process and EOs can only give direction to Executive Branch actions?
An EO can’t override an constitutionally designated process in article I.
Sorry but whoever has you believing this is not well versed in constitutional law.
Suddenly California fruit farmers will have Standing in Wisconsin election law...
Orwell called it eight decades ago.
IMO just needs to be enough to give the cowardly GOP state legislatures "cover" to send a Trump slate of electors.
So that's as good as we can hope for. :-)
No. They can send whatever electors they want and the president can refuse to seat them. Boom!
What’s the word...precedent?!?
Don’t worry, we have our favorite Hawaii judge ready to rule against however this may benefit GEOTUS.
But I thought other states can't interfere in a state's election? Oh, fuck, I forgot: Democrat activist judges can do whatever they want.
And the president can do whatever he wants. They can send whatever electors they want and the president can refuse to seat them.
Does this go back to the missing application issue?
Okay, can you break it down Crayola Style for us public school kids?
They didn’t follow their own rules for absentee ballots so it voids them.
That is, if I’m reading it right. I’m not entirely sure.
Just needs to be enough to give the cowardly WI GOP state legislatures "cover" to send a slate of Trump electors.
Or they could just decline to take it up, like they did with the Texas case if they want to 'stay out of the election." Trump wins that way too.
The remedy is - REDO THE ELECTION
No. We won. There is no redo.
Can't redo a Presidential election til 2024. Tossing out the popular vote gives it to State legislatures to choose electors.
Yu no put ID, yu vote no gud. M k?
Tnk U
State execs who took Facebook money changed the rules illegally.
Ballots sent to people who not asked for them are illegal. I suppose those can not be counted but judges can be vey creative and stupid.
This pertains to all 50 States, right? The Court wasn't commenting on that, but WI's absentee process.
WI, all I know is that PA has a similar case waiting for the SCOTUS.
This was throughout the entire State, not just one County. For that matter, where did this not occur? Along with mailing out ballots that weren't requested.
This is all in the color revolution playbook.
I got ballots mailed to me multiple times, over a period of a LOT longer than 3 days. No way am I the only one. And I don't live in Dane or Milwaukee Counties. If Dane County allowed this illegality for only 3 days, they're doing better than the rest of the State. There were virtually no limits on this. The propaganda was such that people accepted it as normal.
Still do. Hopefully that's changing.
Shouldn't we now push WI legislature to send alternative electors based on this?
Yes. Wisconsin pedes, light up the phones!!
Good luck at actually trying to reach them.
If Rep. Sortwell is correct, all legislators are swamped with emails.
Keep trying anyway. I was sending faxes as well to the MI AG about the forensic audit until they unplugged the line over the weekend.
lol
As it should be! Write a clear title. "Correct the fraud" is one I've used.
visit them personally (but cordially)
Can't. WI State Capitol building has been closed to the public since 3/24/2020. Isn't that unconstitutional, tyranny, or some other form of bullshit?
You don't have to live in WI to send an email. This site has a bunch of lists, ready to be cut and pasted as bcc
YES!
What's the context for this? Do you have a link to the original document?
I have not been following this fully.
Are the "respondents" the defense for the State/Governor et al ?
WISCONSIN BELONGS TO THE PATRIOTS
we here. we not letting them take our state.
this state is red as the eye can see.
milwaukee rigged for evers at 3am with 33k votes during midterms. same in election.
trump way up everywhere except sketch milwaukee county.
We're not letting them take our Fish Frys either.
"They will pry my kringle from my cold dead fingers!"
PEDES - FORM A PERIMETER AROUND O&H!
How would that help?
We should make a post for those of us who live here. Coordinate, carpool to DC when it comes to that, etc.
and Walker stepped down like a bitch.
saltyarmy cheesehead checking in! Who's state? Our state!
We should make a post for our State; coordinate, etc. We've got Patriot shit to do!
We should start a post for our State
<3
Like dr turley has said many many times. Once one state fall they will all start falling
Turley is pretty accurate isn't he
Yes, what I like about him he is intelligent and he know how to explain thing down to us “dumb folks level.”
Officially or projected?
Pro-boonked
Ok, do we finally get a win?
What do you mean "finally"? We won BIG on November 3rd, and everyone knows it.
👊🇺🇸🦅
hahaha HELL YEAH, towin that fukin line per the usual
In the lawfare following the election day win.
What good is that if Tony Evers and his fellow thieves show up at the Capitol today, and Ann Jacobs pretend there's nothing amiss?
Yes
Maybe my heartfelt appeal to Hagersdorn on Twitter worked
Finally? Where have you been for these past four years?
On the election...
And if you were paying any attention at all these past four years you would recognize the pattern of propaganda insisting that up is down and left is right. Just because they've been screaming that they won the election at the top of their lungs does not make any of what they're saying true.
If you guys had an attention span longer than 24 hours this weekend would have been as exciting for you as it was for me.
ELI5?
There are narrow rules for who can vote absentee - the state accepted absentee ballots from people who fall outside the statutory definition of indefinitely confined. If applied strictly, this would invalidate a large percentage of absentee ballots.
It's not just accepted absentee ballots...It sounds like to me, WI tried to basically tell voters "you are indefinitely confined and will be voting absentee." Where the law states that declaring oneself indefinitely confined is something the VOTER must do themselves. Not a rogue governor cause "muh Shanghai Shivers"
The biggest issue in this case being that indefinitely confined voters are exempt from the absentee ballot ID requirement. What could go wrong...
Makes perfect sense to me now what they did.
These people are sick, but they aren't stupid.
Yup. They flooded the country with mail-in ballots so that they had a plausible explanation for 90-100% voter turnout in the counties where they committed fraud.
They have no plausible explanation for higher than 100% turnout
Right, keep in mind that from 2000-2016 in WI, only 800-1,600 every election cycle claimed “indefinite confinement” and a reason to receive and submit an absentee ballot without presenting an ID. In 2020? 169,282 people claimed indefinite confinement in WI (covid was not a valid reason to claim indefinite confinement). So it would seem that based on this ruling, that election officials and even the governor of WI, proclaimed 169,000 people as indefinitely confined which subverts WI election laws because only the voter can claim indefinite confinement (in accordance with WI law) and, I would assume, invalidates a large number of these votes, maybe even all of them
Not a safe assumption. The rest of your comment is excellent.
One would assume. But this is clown world after all
Days without honk: preboonked to be 0 for the foreseeable future. And beyond!
Every fraudulent vote disenfranchises a legal vote, so 169k potentially fraudulent votes is also 169k disenfranchised legal votes. There is MORE EVIDENCE the "indefinitely confined" votes are the fraudulent ones than any legal vote were fraudulent. This can be better said as re-enfranchising 169k legal votes that were defrauded by the 169k "indefinitely confined votes"
Re-enfranchising. I like it!
1/6 is what matters. Pence tosses anything that's still fraudulent. Pelosi throws a hissy fit and uses every procedural trick in the book. Meeting decides nothing. DJT assumes emergency power indefinitely, per EOs written in 2006 and 2018. Qw need to be ready for this possibility which gives us 2 weeks to muster in DC clogging the streets, and conclude appropriately.
You seem to be getting nervous.
I'm not saying this is the case, but if 169k votes are proven without any reasonable doubt to be fraudulent, every judge in the land should throw them out.
Speaking in absolutes like this demonstrates subversion or a significantly below avg IQ.. or both.
The process would be individual. So that's not going to happen.
It looks like this interpretation takes the power from the governor and clerks and puts it in the legislators' hands. The law must be followed. It would be huge if ballots were disqualified for this reason because it's plenty to flip the state.
Waiting for more info.
The statute leaves it to the voter alone to declare they are indefinitely confined. So the clerk, SoS, governor, etc has no business declaring huge numbers of people are indefinitely confined.
Yeah, basically the fake governor Tony fuckface Evers, SoS and others said, "Don't go out, we'll send you ballots."
It wasn't lawful. Ballots came, people voted. But per the law, the fake governor Tony fuckface Evers, the SoS and others lied to those voters, because those votes are illegal. They basically stole votes from voters.
Didn't every State do this?
I see no way to arrive at an honest count. Toss the entire popular vote, legislatures pick electors per US Constitution.
They should be as valid as a vote for R2D2 for president, a null vote.
In 4 years you'll be 5
big if true, math checks out
Dominion age is roughly 68, FAKE NEWS!
What’s a surplus?
What's a jib
Just the right age to be sniffed by the President-Elect.
What a cute baby!!! Donald Trump is going to be your President because these tyrants won’t be deciding your future little one
4 out of 5 democrats agreeeeeee... babies are delicious.
food go in, poop go out.
Commies are fucked
Wisconsin law only permits absentee for those who are indefinitely confined. It seems that counties or officials other than the voters themselves declared those voters to be indefinitely confined (because...COVID). This says only the voters themselves can make that determination; so if they did not, their absentee ballots would be invalid per Wisconsin’s laws.
But you know, we can’t disenfranchise them so we’ll just count them anyway.
Disclaimer: IANAL
Actually Wisconsin is a state that requires voter ID, and absentee ballots must be requested by the voter. Any voter who requests an absent voting ballot must also provide a proof of ID to receive said ballot.
There is a “Loophole” for voters that are Indefinitely Confined, where they do not need to provide an ID, or proof of signature if they are Indefinitely Confined. However, they must actually be Indefinitely Confined, and not just too lazy or scared (COVID) to vote in person.
In the 2018 mid-terms, there were around 60K Indefinitely Confined voters in the state of Wisconsin. In 2020 that number has been exacerbated to 200K.
The state needs to question these voters who claimed they are Indefinitely Confined, not only to ensure they are in fact Indefinitely Confined, but also to enquire that they actually voted and that their vote was counted for the candidate that they voted for.
This is my first comment on this site... so go easy on me.
STOP THE STEAL. TRUMP LANDSLIDE 2020!!
Welcome to.win!
You understand this correctly, but WI isn't likely to investigate 160,000 people for this.
Running an election that can't be resolved is part of the handbook on running a color revolution. This is a coup. There is no evidence of an election.
Thanks!
Thanks for clarifying.
That's the problem. This is 80x our usual number. The State isn't going to investigate all these people individually.
How would that affect the case argued Saturday on the recount (Trump v. Biden)? if the voter decides if they are indefinitely confined then they are entitled to vote absentee?
Yes, but there is a process for that, which requires identification verification. I think there was a blanket order deeming large chunks of the population as indefinitely confined, skirting the process. This ruling says that’s not acceptable. So any absentee votes that did not follow the process per the law should be invalidated.
I thought the trick in Wisconsin was that the thousands of voters declared themselves indefinitely confined because they were told to do that by the officials.
If I recall, part of their excuse for implementing widespread mail in voting was because they claimed residents were indefinitely confined. This seems to point that the courts disagree with that decision
They didn't claim anything about actually being indefinitely confined. The bogus claim was due to covid.
OPINION FILED:December 14, 2020
ORAL ARGUMENT:September 29, 2020
I'm glad Mark Jefferson and the Republican Party of Wisconsin was fighting this bullshit even before the election. The "steal" was flooding the election with these illegal mail in ballots without chain of custody.
This really shows us how important it is to get involved at the local level.
The link: https://www.wicourts.gov/sc/opinion/DisplayDocument.pdf?content=pdf&seqNo=315283
Trying to jump around, but what's the actual remedy?
The remedy is "We'll be sure and fix it next time around, all hail emperor Biden!"
/jk, don't doomer bash me
Gives pedes a good argument to hammer the WI legislature with
That's not what this suit was about. This was filed BEFORE the election. This creates precedence that Trump can use to invalidate those votes though.
How far is Trump down in WI? Less than 200,000? If so he flips that state.
Only 30k, meaning HUGE WIN in WI.
Barely over 20,000
Thanks, pede!
Explain this for an idiot please.
Long Answer: Hundreds of thousands of fraudulent/illegal ballots will be thrown out in Wisconsin.
Short Answer: We're winning.
Where are you seeing this?
What reads from post.
No doesn't say that, doesn't say that specifically anyway. it infers it but until I read "all ballots must be thrown out" or whatever, it doesn't mean that.
Perhaps, possible jump gun.
100k+ illegal ballots disenfranchises everyone.
Also hello shill, nice new account btw.
you mean disenfranchising all those fake ballots right?
deport
IF TRUE IM GOING TO KISS YOU ALL
IM SO FUCKING HAPPY
Wrong
There's absolutely nothing in there about filing individual lawsuits, one at a time, for each individual vote.
That's the dumbest possible interpretation and spamming your retarded opinions all over this thread won't make it anymore true.
Sadly this is not true. Individual challenges to 80x the usual number of absentee ballots will not get through the process in time.
Right but each individual had to sign saying they were indefinitely confined in order to get a ballot, and this is saying that you cannot challenge that statement.
Now if there was evidence where the clerk sent absentee ballots out without the voter having signed a declaration that they believed they were indefinitely confined then there would be something.
The state declared everybody indefinitely confined due to covid and mailed out ballots, and they also eliminated the requirement for signature matching another security measures.
I would say they are likely to throw them out but at the least this allows someone to argue that they need to go back and do an audit or better matching and validation, and figure out if there were issues with the mail in ballots given that they should not have been allowed in the first place.
However the actions already been taken and now the focus should be on the remedy. Remedy will probably not be too entirely throw them out.
Only possible remedy is to throw out the entire popular vote and have legislature pick electors.
Yes. But will they be thrown out? If they let this slide, because “racism” or whatever, I swear to fuck.
"Racism and global warming"
This doesn't say they'll be thrown out.
This order by itself, no. It's declaratory relief which is relevant only going forward, and injunctive relief had already been granted before the election barring orders that tell people they're indefinitely confined.
However, the Trump SCOWI case currently pending might use this opinion as a jumping off point to invalidate the ballots. They need to go farther though, as this opinion still says people can determine for themselves if they are indefinitely confined, which is basically what happened with those ballots. They need to determine that individuals can be disqualified upon review or something.
EDIT: Well shit, the liberal cucks plus swing vote Hagedorn just threw out the above mentioned case.... https://www.wicourts.gov/sc/opinion/DisplayDocument.pdf?content=pdf&seqNo=315395
Aren't the judges essentially saying in THIS case that yes the votes were illegal? And those are the same judges hearing the case from Saturday, it's basically the same complaint posed in both suits and they've already sided with Trump's side in this first case
Not exactly, this lawsuit started when guidance was circulated that due to COVID-19, people are considered indefinitely confined, which is wrong. Nobody else can designate you as indefinitely confined. Hell, even the liberals on the court concurred as far as that goes.
However, as long as people can self-determine that they are indefinitely confined and there's no mechanism to check if this is bullshit or not, there are no grounds to question the ballots, insofar as it can't be shown that a clerk designated them as indefinitely confined and they didn't do so themselves.
Hagedorn just cucked out of the Trump case, so libs win 4-3.
https://www.wicourts.gov/sc/opinion/DisplayDocument.pdf?content=pdf&seqNo=315395
On to SCOTUS I guess, they better not cuck out on this one.
What do they have on him? pictures of him getting it up the butt?
Yup.
We don't know yet. This is just the lawsuit that defines the law. The new lawsuit asks for a remedy of ballot invalidation. This lawsuit only asks that the courts clarify.
no, what's happened has happened at this point will focus on the remedy and potentially additional security measures like matching signatures, which were thrown out the window along with the rest of the emergency order.
Unless this get swamped yes
Sounds like this may invalidate tons of mail in votes used under that pretense.
I think an injunction had already been placed back in September but the damage had already been done. There was a 300% increase to around 20,000 "confined" ballots I think. The next step is to go through all of these and find out who was actually "confined" and who registered under the illegal actions of the Sec of State and WEC.
edit: I'm wrong. Over 100,000.
a over 100k "confined"??? that alone can take back WI
Absolutely keep praying. I believe that our most powerful weapon is the fact that almost every person trying to pull this thing out is a believer and that so much of his base is praying for him daily. When all institutional power fails us, the highest court of all may rule in our favor.
Yeah, illegally.
certification means nothing when its being contested. Sindey P, Rudy and many other have established this already.
This could assist in proving they certified fraud. An alternate slate of electors could be selected.
Perhaps this makes it a contested election where Pence can decide which slate of electors to accept or the legislature can decide. It ain't over 'til it's over
WE WON WISCONSIN AND MI AUDIT SHOWS FRAUD YESSSS
To those confused, it means an indefinite Stay at home order due to Covid is for the individual person to decide and NOT the Government.
County Clerks and Gov's CAN NOT order this.
Moreover it reiterates that Covid by itself, including shelter in place or other emergency orders by the Governor or health officials, does not legally qualify someone to declare themselves indefinitely confined. It's only due to things like age, actual illness, or disability. In short, you could even have Covid and it's likely that you're not "indefinitely confined" according to the statute (since Covid is not a long-term disease).
Nort only that but they offered curbside service at the polling stations for those who are sick. Really no excuse for this bs
No need to worry about the CCPvirus vaccine being mandated. You'll just need to take it if you want to work or travel. Then you'll also need to sign onto the great reset, forfeiting your right to own any kind of proporty for the rest of your life.
And you'll be happy. Because: slavery is freedom. War is peace. We have always been at war with east Asia. And everyone knows what's in room 101.
Everything is on the line, but I suppose you already knew that.
All very good questions.
That amount is 80x times our usual. No weay did they all agree to the actual terms. This is but one more avenue of fraud.
No clue what this means
If we can find cases where absentee votes were sent out but the voter did not sign a statement saying they believe themselves to be indefinitely confined, those ballates are thrown out.
If they signed that statement, which I think was made super easy on the envelope itself, we'd have to challenge every case individually. We can't have the whole class tossed. At least that's what somebody else is saying. I don't think we should get too overconfident because of this. It's one more avenue of fraud, along with all the others thast probably happened in every precinct and every race.
1/6 is when we go to the next box.
From the majority opinion:
There’s no definitive action. The WI Supreme Court just said that COVID shouldn’t have prevented people from have to follow the law.
And that was tossed this morning
No, there are two cases.
The ruling here was tossed, today. It has no consequence. We won nothing. We aren't getting 160,000 voters tossed.
Okay. So after the number one comes two.
There were TWO Supreme Court decision in WI today.
One was “tossed” as you would put it. That ruling does not include the text that this post is based upon and was asking for ballots to be thrown out.
The 2nd, is the GOP case this text is from and was not “tossed” but was ruled in favor of although with no defined action.
Don’t know how to state it any clearer.
Thanks. Without specified action I think it's meaningless. We need decisive action.
If it pertained absentee ballots, (only one avenue of fraud among many) the individuals declaring themselves indefinitely confined could be investigated on a case by case basis. 160,000 of them. Is that your understanding of the process and ruling?
Every County had ballots mailed to us, repeatedly, without asking for them. I don't see how it's possible to determine a legit count.
Everyone is allowed to determine for themselves if they are indefinitely confined, Emergency Order 12 did not do that. Any absentee ballot cast had to have been sent by someone who signed a statement saying they believed themselves to be indefinitely confined. My mother lives in Wisconsin and voted absentee, she had to sign that statement before she could receive her mail in ballot. However if there were counties that just sent out ballots without requiring that signed statement those ballots would be invalid.
EVERT County sent out mail in balots, multiple times, without being requested. This was announced early, and often. I'd be surprised if there's a State that didn't engage in this bs.
I'm from WI, everyone I know there had to sign the statement before they received their ballots.
You're talking about absentee ballots. Yes, that's a process that normally works very well. "Mail in ballots" are different, and new. We got them repeatedly. There's no way to sort out an honest vote count.
There were no mail in ballots sent out in WI without that statement of confinement, if there were then those are invalid and can be thrown out.
Perhaps all that were mailed did have that statement? I didn't read the ones I got that closely. I certainly didn't request any. And it was in the news all across the Nation that ballots would be mailed to everyone, even without being requested. If some States abstained from that, they're the minority.
Every precinct, every race is suspect. With 6 Counties more than enough to overturn the Presidential race for the whole Country.
I'm from WI and still have family there. My family members that requested mail in ballots had to first sign a statement saying they were confined before they would send them a ballot. I've heard that was the process all across the state. Of course if that was universally followed or not is to be seen, if not then there is an opportunity to get rid of some ballots but it's going to be an arduous process to find them seeing as it has to be a ballot by ballot process.
Guys, this isn't an election suit. This is "old" suit, challenging changes in election law. Look at the date of filing (September).
That case was decided before the elections. I guess they finally published their full opinion today, that's it.
And to the "votes to be thrown out" theme - it's impossible - even if you single out every person who illegally voted as confined, you don't know whom they voted for. All the ballots are now mixed together.
This decision can now be used in election suit in WI, but that's it. Maybe, and this is a big maybe, WI SC will do what's right and will rule election as contested.
sad to see this comment so low but I guess people are desperate for good news. The michigan report is that right now.
Thank you for clarifying.
doesn't say that. they could easily say what they said above and then add at the end "but we don't to disenfranchise voters blah blah blah"
until they say ballots are not to be counted, assume them being counted.
This makes it real easy to toss the electors though
agree its positive, but it certainly doesn't mean we've won WI.
THIS DOESN'T MEAN WE'VE WON WISCONSIN
"Duly inaugurated" is what determines CiC our military has the duty to obey. The definition of this has never been tested. We cannot allow Bidert to be even sham inaugurated. EVERYTHING rides on this!
What it means is mike pence kicks the electors to the curb lol I hope
And then if that meeting still decides nothing, Rubicon don assumes his final form, legally taking emergency power indefinitely.
Certification means nothing. The legislature picks the electors. The legislature is sending the electors they feel that are correct. There never even used to be a national election for president. The state legislatures used to vote. As the constitution states.
The government did not force voters to declare themselves indefinitely confined, they did that on their own accord. As long as they signed the statement saying they believed themselves to be indefinitely confined (for whatever reason) the vote is valid.
No it's not that simple. There are many problems with this, but in order for it to martter each case would have to be handled individually. 80x our usual number of such cases says that isn't going to happen. This points ourt one more avenue of fraud.
Wtf do these red boxes mean?
Not much. Basically if there are cases where absentee ballots were sent out to people who did not sign a statement that they believed they were indefinitely confined then those would be invalidated, but I know of no cases of that.
Sounds like this would support an action for an order invalidating abstenee mail-in ballots obtianed without voter ID in Dane County, WI (in which Madison is located).
No, Dane county required you to sign a statement saying you believed yourself to be indefinitely confined before you would be sent your ballot. That removed the ID requirement.
This was done Statewide.
What does this freaky deaky legal jumbo mean?
Not much. Basically if there are cases where absentee ballots were sent out to people who did not sign a statement that they believed they were indefinitely confined then those would be invalidated, but I know of no cases of that.
But how does this affect the votes?
It won't. Each absentee voter had to sign a statement saying they believed themselves to be indefinitely confined before they could receive a mail in ballot. That exempts those voters from the ID requirement. This is just saying that the government can't declare anyone indefinitely confined, only the individual can. Nothing changes unless there were absentee ballots sent to voters who did not sign that statement, which I haven't heard of yet.
How is this a win? It says people can self-identify as indefinitely confined, meaning all those illegal votes are "legit"
The voters had to identify BEFORE voting and show an ID to get a ballot. The clerk and gov declared everyone indefinitely confined and blindly sent out ballots.
I thought the indefinitely confined route was a way to circumvent showing ID.
IIRC they tried to say early on to use covid as an excuse, but their supreme court said no, but even so the number of people who reported as confined was drastically more than in previous years.
No. All you needed to do was sign a statement saying you were indefinitely confined. This exempts you from the ID requirement. That is what my mom did in WI. If you were saying you were confined to your house how would it make sense for them to require you to come in in person and show ID?
Had to identify BEFORE voting to request a ballot.
No. If you are unable to leave your house how would it make sense for them to ask you to come in in person.
Identifying yourself and asking for an absentee ballot does not require going anywhere.
Yeah, in WI all you have to do is sign a statement saying you are confined and you are exempt from the ID requirement and they send you a ballot.
Exactly. Which they would have had to do before the election.
Yup. In WI you didn't get your absentee ballot until that signed statement was received.
Which means?
We've won Wisconsin
It means we won Wisconsin and now everyone without their heads in the sand knows it... but it doesn’t say that they will actually give us the win.. because so many of our politicians have sold us out to China and the want Joe “filth of the earth” Biden in the whitehouse to do China’s bidding
no it doesn't. stop it.
Not much. Basically if any absentee ballots were sent but that voter didn't sign a statement that they believed themselves to be indefinitely confined then that ballot would be invalid, but I haven't seen any cases of this, because in WI to get the ballot mailed to you you had to sign that statement first.
“But the court noted that a determination must be make in every case before tossing a ballot, as President Trump has sought in a separate lawsuit.“
Meaning that there is practically no remedy possible.
Is this the scene where Doctor Strange hold up his index finger?
His middle finger.
Why are there also reports that we had a loss in WI?
Because they ruled that even though people voted by saying they were indefinitely confined, throwing away their vote would be disenfranchising them of their constitutional right to vote.
The requested remedy is deemed unconstitutional.
Yup, we can't get a win, ever...
All the absentee voters signed statements saying they believed themselves to be indefinitely confined, and the law makes it clear that that is all it takes, even if they believed it falsely or lied, in the eyes of the law they are legally entitled to an absentee ballot and exempt from the ID requirement.
Wow, total clown world. But I blame the GOP and Republicans in general, you can't win wars by "fighting in good faith" when the other side are playing nasty.
It's tough because what is the alternative? Either the individual or the government decides if someone is 'indefinitely confined' or not, and I sure as hell don't want it to be the government.
I think we can take the average percentage of indefinitely confined people from prior years as a baseline, inflate a bit using health statistics for people who were not allowed to go out (senior homes - people were not allowed out or in, they were confined for sure), and deduct whatever is remaining.
But that's a huge debate that might take months, because we probably don't even agree on the health data in the first place lol.
WI SC said right in that ruling that any dispute would need to be handled on a vote-by-vote basis. So that wouldn't work. We will need to find each vote that was sent in absentee but that voter didn't sign a statement that they are confined. That's a pretty tall order unfortunately, but could still take a least of chunk of votes out of play.
According to the article bwlow, it states "The Wisconsin Supreme Court has ruled in favor of Mark Jefferson and the Republican Party of Wisconsin. But the court noted that a determination must be make in every case before tossing a ballot, as President Trump has sought in a separate lawsuit."
https://electionwiz.com/2020/12/14/breaking-wisconsin-supreme-court-says-election-officials-were-wrong-ballots-may-not-be-counted/amp/
Propaganda must be maintained, comrade.
"indefinitely confined"? sounds like Covid Lockdowns. And if so they're right, no Governor has any right to tell you that you must stay home and wear masks. Commerce, individual rights and personal freedoms don't end because of a scamdemic
Their Supreme Court already said covid doesn't qualify.
Pretty much what the court said was Trump campaign you're correct these votes should not have counted.
BUT
We aren't going to do anything about it
because the CCP money is long and Fang Fang's sugar walls are too sweet.
looks like its the old "you should have complained before the election", to which we all know prior to the election they would have tossed the lawsuit for failing to show injury. weasel in the extreme
Big win? Didn't they rule against us. https://www.printfriendly.com/p/g/zXDV2s
Might want to read the ruling again...this is not a win unfortunately. They said it is indeed against the law to use covid as an excuse that you are indefinitely confined, and in the same breath, that individuals are allowed to determine if they are indefinitely confined. Makes no sense whatsoever.
According to the Gateway Pundit, there were two court cases in WI today. One was lost, the other was won. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/one-two-wisconsin-supreme-court-rulings-give-president-trump-win-enough-votes-win-state/
Yes, that was the one that they 'won', but if you read the ruling...it was hardly a win. They wanted the ballots of those people who claimed they were indefinitely confined thrown out. But they worded the ruling that it was up to the individuals to determine their own status, so pretty much making the law a moot point.
No context? How does it impact the ballot count as it stands?
Only will remove ballots if the voter did not sign a statement saying they believed themselves to be indefinitely confined.
Well that's gotta be a majority or them.
My mom voted absentee in WI, before they would send her a ballot she had to sign a statement saying she was indefinitely confined. so if that's what all the counties did then there may not be many that are in violation.
What county? I voted absentee in the Spring election. I had to fill out a form online, confirm my ID, and then they sent me a ballot.
However, this is arguing that the fake governor Tony fuckface Evers and the SoS just deemed a bunch of people confined, and then shipped ballots. This is a normal harvesting tactic. Spam out ballots, collect them, lose chain of custody, bank on no one caring.
Dane. And yeah if they spammed out ballots that's a big opportunity. Gonna take a lot of work since WI SC said it has to be a ballot-by-ballot process but whatever it takes!
I just heard we lost the case and it was denied 4-3? I'm so confused....
Even though people voted via the "indefinitely confined" method, which they should not have, they still voted and throwing away their votes would be disenfranchisement them of their constitutional right to vote.
The requested remedy was deemed unconstitutional, as they cannot show that these votes were fraudulent and if they had an objection to this, they should have raised it BEFORE the voters had voted using this method.
Something like that.
Specifically on the indefinitely confined ballots, laches was not invoked. The law is simply retarded and let's people self-determine their status with NO statutory checks, so the courts can't do anything.
So this looks like something from the plaintiffs and it is information we already know. The the court actually make a decision?
Ok, I decided to skim the document rather than wait for someone hear to answer. The document appears to be only the opinions of the justices. There are 7 justices named and 3 opinions documented. If I am reading correctly, the majority appears to agree with the plaintiffs (republicans). The document does not look to indicate what the remedy will be.
I dont know what any of this means, but im waiting for the Trump tweet that says "i win wisconsin"
If Trump can find loads of ballots that were mailed it buy voters who didn't sign a statement saying they believed they were indefinitely confined those ballots are invalid.
lol
they have a good point. who the fuck are YOU to decide my status
I'm lost. Does this have something to do with the election, or the vaccine, & what does it mean?
Election regarding WI mail in votes. People who are indefinitely confined can vote by mail without verification.
Under COVID, the governor said everyone is indefinitely confined whether they really were or not.
Are you daft? Why the hell would it be for the vaccine???
Fuck: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/14/wisconsin-supreme-court-rules-against-trump-electi/
According to the Gateway Pundit, there were two court cases in WI today. One was lost, the other was won. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/one-two-wisconsin-supreme-court-rulings-give-president-trump-win-enough-votes-win-state/
Jee whata surprise... who could have called that one?
What's the source link?
MuthaF#ckers!
Wisconsin Supreme Court: "The Campaign waited until after the election to raise selective challenges ... We conclude the challenge to indefinitely confined voter ballots is without merit, and that laches bars relief on the remaining three categories of challenged ballots."
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/one-two-wisconsin-supreme-court-rulings-give-president-trump-win-enough-votes-win-state/
ya but they didn't toss the ballots, so the votes still count.
FIGHT FOR TRUMP!!!!
I don’t see how this is a big win for Trump. Or maybe I just don’t understand. But Newsmax has an article that the court ruled against Trump 4-3 this morning.
They ruled against him in one case and in favor of him in another. Two different cases. This is what I'm reading. In the case that was ruled against, the court said he couldn't argue to have ALL the ballots thrown out once. In the case that was ruled in his favor, there are as many as 215,000 illegal ballots that could not be counted but each ballot would have to be considered individually. We don't need 215,000 to win Wisconsin, only need 20,000 or so.
Thank you for clarifying this. I was a little confused. I didn't know there were 2 suits.
So is there a remand for such counting?
Yes, but what’s the remedy? Toss all absentee votes? Send it back to the legislature?
You would have to find any ballot where the voter did not sign a statement saying they are indefinitely confined. Then that ballot would be tossed.
I wished spoked a second language right now but i assume this is good news. 😂