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No, the wording is unclear so it could be either if taken in isolation. In context, however, (as the other user pointed out) your interpretation makes no sense. So what you presented is clearly wrong, unfortunately that hasn't stopped people in the past from just doing what they want regardless.
Kind of moot if your construction leads to both sets being counted and mine leads to none.
In all honesty it is extremely vague, hence the controversy
This is the relevant part of the constitution
The President of the Senate shall, in presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates, and the votes shall then be counted.
As you can see it is not so detailed to exclude either interpretation.
technically speaking GA sent theirs in favor of Biden, but when the official tabulation by the President of the Senate (aka Mike Pence) occurs he selects which electors to certify. What the media is doing is telling half the story to try and get Trump supporters down, and they'll run the story that this affirms Biden's win before his BS speech tonight.
So Pence could select the Trump electors from these contested states and award them to Trump or not accept any at all due to the contested election (also see Ratcliffe statement a few weeks ago about these issues needing to be resolved). Similar thing happened in Hawaii during Nixon/Kennedy.
PA (using "conditional votes"), and Michigan and Nevada.
Mike Pence is going to have to figure out which slate of electors from each state accurately represents the will of the people in those disputed states. The slate that support China's puppet Biden who got their votes through Dominion Machines and ballot stuffing and fraud and bribery and free crack cocaine and hookers and millions of foreign $$$ sent to Hunter, using machine-printed ballots Made in China that were trucked in at 4 in the morning or inserted from suitcases hidden under the table after all the poll watchers were forced to leave; or the slate of GOP electors sent by the State Legislatures supporting President Trump. There may be some more reports from the Director of National Intelligence and some more court cases between now and January 6 that make Mike Pence's job easier.
Okay I'll bite, this is only half right. In order for there to be a dueling slate of electors, the legislature would have to sign off on the Trump electors. This would be in contrast to the governor who signed off on the Biden electors.
As of right now, these are just LARPers who gathered at the capitol, and they will remain that way unless the legislature or judicial branch intervenes and officially approves them.
It's half right because it isn't purely symbolic because events could make it formal in the future, but as of now it isn't legally binding.
Just wait until January 6th when Pence counts all those alternate electors and the Democrats cry bloody murder. THAT will be the greatest day since we won in 2016. Maybe better.
The speaker of the house in Michigan is only 32 years old and clearly has loftier political goals, but can't reason the right choice here.
The obvious solution for all of these contested states is quite easy: "Yes, we recognize there is evidence of fraud. We don't yet know if it's enough to change the election. However, it's irresponsible of us to ignore the fraud. We must send both sets of electors. We will continue to investigate and will have answers before January 6."
Props to CJ. I saw im speak with Lin Wood at the rally in Georgia and was impressed with his energy. He's charistmatic. Only 18 years old! He has a bright future ahead of him!
The Rothschild backed Federalist crony that pushed for a Central Bank from the very beginning of America's formation? How can I forget? Thank you to Burr for doing the right thing. Unfortunately, the ideas were seeded.
P.S. Many people might not be aware of this but all 3 Trump SCOTUS Judges come from the Federalist Society. :/
He was mostly modeling on a English system in an era where random banks issued currency. I am actually reading a book about it right now. Anyway all those banks always had the same strings. Hamilton was terrible. Jefferson was based
Did you know that they invented the firing squad as a method of execution to prevent a sense of guilt in whoever does the killing (who is unknown because all bullets except for one are blank)?
Looks like we'd have quite a few patriots happy to pull the trigger with no qualms.
Many many options with this. Basically they sent these electors because Georgia legal challenges are still pending. Also, if the legislatures choose at a later date they can confirm this slate of electors.
While I appreciate and agree with the sentiment, I mean of course the fight to take back the votes we have been in since election day+1 when Biden tried to steal it.
How i understand it is if you have duel electors the congress and senate have to
decide which elector to accept.If the congress and Senate are split on this decision
the vote for President would be decided in congress one state one vote.
Trump wins.
So now the Georgia Senate race could decide the President.
Nice. If Trump gets enough elector votes today, doesn't that mean he won't have to invoke Martial Law? Somehow I still think he should and won't stop draining the swamp. It will be a wonderful day when they arrest Obama, Biden, FBI, DOJ, CIA, IRS, military, CA senators, all and find them guilty.
Trump must be psychic. How did he know this would happen?
Remember when he told the presser over a week ago that if the electoral college voted against him he would concede and the press got all excited? Now they're going to rush to ask him to keep his word and concede.
You know what Trump will say when they get there, "I just won. The electors voted for me. We are thrilled. "
The press will howl, "You didn't win! The electors voted for Biden."
Trump, "No, the GOP electors just voted for me"
Left will screech and laugh and say, "They don't count you idiot! They weren't certified! It was meaningless."
"The ones who voted for Biden are meaningless. My electors represent the legal vote and they voted for me."
So basically Trump set up this troll a week back. What happens today means he won't concede, yet he'll also keep his word since the "electors" that matter voted for him.
The Leftists head will explode and they'll laugh haughtily and call him all sorts of names. However, it makes one wonder if Trump knew this would happen when he said that at the presser a week ago. But how could he? It's a very shocking situation.
I don't understand how this works. Does this mean that there will be dueling electors in the states where the GOP is sending its own people? I'm a moron, what's happening here? Apparently it's happening in Michigan also.
Today just keeps getting better!!!!
Best day since Election Day
Wait, I’m reading Georgia electors voted for Biden....
There has been a dueling slate of electors that have been casted
So, an alternate set of electors?
Essentially they have the option to congress and Pence to choose which electors to use. Gives more time to uncover fraud and determine actual counts.
This is the way.
So what stops Pence from just choosing Trump?
So the senate has nothing to do with the proccess?
I think they decide on the 6th which slate "counts"
http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/26628/1960-Hawaii-Sends-Two-Slates-to-Electoral-College.aspx
It happened a couple times in history. here is the 1960 Nixon v Kennedy Hawaii EC dual slate.
Yeah, funny how Kennedy stole that from Nixon, and how history turned out. Nixon is one of the most maligned presidents in history.
I think that means Georgia doesn’t count ?
Count the real ones.. Pretty sure Pence gets to pick?
Yes, Pence picks.
And MUCH more will be made public by then. It will be a no brainer.
Nothing to do with the senate?
Means it gets decided by either
a)Mike Pence
b)both houses of congress(with it not counting if they don't agree)
c) Some combination with the courts
Possibly with input by a single pair of senator and representative objecting
Only time anything close has happened was 144 years ago and it ended with a bargain.
Which will also be contested.
Unfortunately no one has addressed the compromised voting systems in Georgia.
Wait, isn't the certification of Electors happening on the 6th of January?
Will we still have our 53 majority (including Rommie)?
Which will also be FRAUDULENT
This is opposite of correct. Both houses have to agree to throw electors from a state out.
No, the wording is unclear so it could be either if taken in isolation. In context, however, (as the other user pointed out) your interpretation makes no sense. So what you presented is clearly wrong, unfortunately that hasn't stopped people in the past from just doing what they want regardless.
Kind of moot if your construction leads to both sets being counted and mine leads to none.
In all honesty it is extremely vague, hence the controversy
This is the relevant part of the constitution
As you can see it is not so detailed to exclude either interpretation.
And this time it will end with a bang
So the lying press only reported on the electors that favor Biden?
Gasp (clutches pearls tightly)
technically speaking GA sent theirs in favor of Biden, but when the official tabulation by the President of the Senate (aka Mike Pence) occurs he selects which electors to certify. What the media is doing is telling half the story to try and get Trump supporters down, and they'll run the story that this affirms Biden's win before his BS speech tonight.
So Pence could select the Trump electors from these contested states and award them to Trump or not accept any at all due to the contested election (also see Ratcliffe statement a few weeks ago about these issues needing to be resolved). Similar thing happened in Hawaii during Nixon/Kennedy.
But what other contested states have appointed electors for Trump, apart from GA?
Please tell me there's more than GA
Nevada as well AFAIK. I'm hearing PA did too but I haven't seen any verification of that just yet.
PA (using "conditional votes"), and Michigan and Nevada.
Mike Pence is going to have to figure out which slate of electors from each state accurately represents the will of the people in those disputed states. The slate that support China's puppet Biden who got their votes through Dominion Machines and ballot stuffing and fraud and bribery and free crack cocaine and hookers and millions of foreign $$$ sent to Hunter, using machine-printed ballots Made in China that were trucked in at 4 in the morning or inserted from suitcases hidden under the table after all the poll watchers were forced to leave; or the slate of GOP electors sent by the State Legislatures supporting President Trump. There may be some more reports from the Director of National Intelligence and some more court cases between now and January 6 that make Mike Pence's job easier.
Nevada at least
Okay I'll bite, this is only half right. In order for there to be a dueling slate of electors, the legislature would have to sign off on the Trump electors. This would be in contrast to the governor who signed off on the Biden electors.
As of right now, these are just LARPers who gathered at the capitol, and they will remain that way unless the legislature or judicial branch intervenes and officially approves them.
It's half right because it isn't purely symbolic because events could make it formal in the future, but as of now it isn't legally binding.
It’s why I’m asking for clarification.
I too am giddy with confusion.
Oh I get it, you’re not shilling, you’re just updating us on the legal status. Sorry, friendly fire!
I think people dont understand what you meant exactly, this guy only says that officially joe is the winner for now, not that he is the actual winner.
Begone handshake
Lol go and fuck yourself.
Edit: my bad, he’s just reporting on the legal status of the election. Terrible phrasing though, I must say.
I acknowledged that later in thread.
No, Biden lost, as he lost in virtually every state. Cheating is not how one wins the presidency, you have to earn the love of the people.
Exactly! I haven't met anyone who is actually passionate about Biden. There's no way he actually won this.
You mean Bernie still has a chance?
Happening Status: It's
Happening status: Is it going to f*ck$#g happen or what? I've been waiting for a happening for 45 days now.
Multiple happenings today. Good stuff from Michigan, Georgia, and Wisconsin. Ball is rolling.
They all cast electors for Biden.
Look up dueling electors. There's no "official". It's a disputed election.
Alright so the sites showing these states casting votes for Biden are false than
Dueling slates of electors.
So you got dueling electors but the official says they cast Biden electors M
Yeah this shit is so cringey. We sound almost as stupid as /pol when we do this.
The happening today is that Dominion forensic report. And maybe this is big also but boy oh boy is it hard to verify.
It may very well be happening.
Just wait until January 6th when Pence counts all those alternate electors and the Democrats cry bloody murder. THAT will be the greatest day since we won in 2016. Maybe better.
Definitely better. They got fucked by their own precious media lying to them for months. Years.
So I'm hearing rumblings that this whole GOP sending electors is all bullshit. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
This is the right decision. I just posted in the thread on Michigan choosing to send only electors for Biden https://thedonald.win/p/11R4XDOHQn/republican-speaker-of-the-michig/c/
The speaker of the house in Michigan is only 32 years old and clearly has loftier political goals, but can't reason the right choice here.
The obvious solution for all of these contested states is quite easy: "Yes, we recognize there is evidence of fraud. We don't yet know if it's enough to change the election. However, it's irresponsible of us to ignore the fraud. We must send both sets of electors. We will continue to investigate and will have answers before January 6."
Props to CJ. I saw im speak with Lin Wood at the rally in Georgia and was impressed with his energy. He's charistmatic. Only 18 years old! He has a bright future ahead of him!
Might be our first African American president one day.
and his wife won't have a dick, nice
This username gets me every time. Bwahaha!
Watch his speech - he is amazing: https://twitter.com/thecjpearson/status/1334247127933923328?s=21
I wish dueling today meant what it used to mean. Could solve this real quick
MORTAL COMBAT!!!
Hillary Clinton babality- turns you into a baby, then eats you!
She already has a diaper.
kombat has a k
Never forget Alexander Hamilton
The Rothschild backed Federalist crony that pushed for a Central Bank from the very beginning of America's formation? How can I forget? Thank you to Burr for doing the right thing. Unfortunately, the ideas were seeded.
P.S. Many people might not be aware of this but all 3 Trump SCOTUS Judges come from the Federalist Society. :/
He was mostly modeling on a English system in an era where random banks issued currency. I am actually reading a book about it right now. Anyway all those banks always had the same strings. Hamilton was terrible. Jefferson was based
Jefferson was based by words, but actions he definitely compromised with Hamilton too much and gave up too much during his Presidency.
You’re implying today’s democrats would fight fair in a duel.
I would pay $100,000 to watch Trump fight Biden on PPV.
My state is doing something non-cucked and non-corrupt for once this year????? It's an early Christmas miracle!
Sanity shines through every once in a while!
CJ is a Boss to.
He's a RACIST WHITE MALE!! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee .t Dems
My gf went to school with him! Crazy
Small world
“Someone say dueling erections?” - Big Mike
Finally. Fucking force Congress and SCOTUS to do something. These fucking faggots.
I would honestly PAY to be a part of taking care of the communist scum that rigged our elections.
I wouldn't just do it for free, but I would pay a decent sum to be able to take part in carrying it out.
Did you know that they invented the firing squad as a method of execution to prevent a sense of guilt in whoever does the killing (who is unknown because all bullets except for one are blank)?
Looks like we'd have quite a few patriots happy to pull the trigger with no qualms.
This gives me some hope. The RINOs better not cave
Finally GA Republicans find a spine; hopefully it's not too late
It’s not! Thankfully
Hellooo Mr. Pence. The floor is yours!
Trump and Biden are going to have a duel? This will be better than the Gorilla Channel.
dicks out !
Biden is too busy with his dick in dogs and family members.
How cool would it be if they actually had to duel to decide who'd cast the vote
Proud boys vs they/them
Just Trump vs Biden. Lmao.
Trump better use this or I’m going to be disappointed lol https://theblast.com/c/jesse-james-donald-trump-pistol
Yes!! CONTEST THE STEAL - Let Pence be the decider in the Senate
Fucking, YES! Suck on that, Pedo Joe!!
Did Raffensperger just get outplayed?
He played himself.
Has there been any news of other contested states doing the same thing?
Yes. From what I can confirm NV + PA + GA. Unconfirmed now but it looks like WI and AZ will do the same thing. MI may have cucked out
Those first 3 going our way (dont think Pence will cuck) put us at 274
Pence won't cuck, no worries.
Pence is almost too American. There’s no way he’ll do anything but do what’s best for America.
I think him being prolife is a good guarantee that he won't cuck out!
When will pence decide?
January 6th when he counts the votes.
NV news broke yesterday. I made a post about it. It will be announced in 15 minutes
!RemindMe 15 minutes
RSBN is live with the announcement
Spoke too soon. Should be soon though
Im pretty sure that the Nevada electors have said they are going faithless from pretty soon after the election. I may be wrong about that.
The president of the senate can choose to not count electoral votes from contested states. This person is Mike pence
I think I've heard of him.
He’s got this buzz around him. Pretty noticeable.
Is this true?
so what does this do exactly?
Many many options with this. Basically they sent these electors because Georgia legal challenges are still pending. Also, if the legislatures choose at a later date they can confirm this slate of electors.
Extremely good news
GA the only state to do this?
GA PA NV
more coming
NV just did!
Yay!
It's good ???
Yes, very good.
Didn't Nevada say they would do the same? Last time I checked they haven't yet?
Yes. They will. Announcement in 30 minutes. Standby. I’ll post it. It’s been confirmed already
Boys and girls, I think we've won!
You know that and I know that. Lets spread the word to those that dont, shall we?
WE NEVER LOST
While I appreciate and agree with the sentiment, I mean of course the fight to take back the votes we have been in since election day+1 when Biden tried to steal it.
Really!?????
the first reply to his tweet: "You can’t do that" haha now it happens
HELL YES!!!!
Georgia and Pennsylvania....... we just need one more state!
Nevada! Incoming rn
Yes!
What other states have followed; PA, GA, AZ? NV?
PA GA NV all confirmed
AZ and WI expected
Looks like MI cucked out
Surprised by Michigan, especially with the Dominion findings...this is clearly far from over
The RINO leader is saving his future career. Little does he know we will primary him out first chance we can get
Any chance they still send alternate electors, or is MI final on that aspect
Earlier one of the majority leaders said they were not. Still a possibility but I’d say unlikely
A bunch of pussies afraid to contest the fraud
Michigan has a lot to hide i see rocks and hammers in their future
How i understand it is if you have duel electors the congress and senate have to decide which elector to accept.If the congress and Senate are split on this decision the vote for President would be decided in congress one state one vote. Trump wins. So now the Georgia Senate race could decide the President.
But don't you remember we aren't voting in that race to stick it to the GOP.
if half true....
LETS
FUCKING
GO
Nice. If Trump gets enough elector votes today, doesn't that mean he won't have to invoke Martial Law? Somehow I still think he should and won't stop draining the swamp. It will be a wonderful day when they arrest Obama, Biden, FBI, DOJ, CIA, IRS, military, CA senators, all and find them guilty.
IT’S TIME TO D-D-D-D-D-DUEL!
I SUMMON ANDREW JACKSON IN ATTACK MODE!
Trump would obliterate Sleepy Joe.
Listen fat
The replies are what you would expect from lefty twitter. Its gross. GJ CJ!
Make no mistake: Georgia is still solidly red outside of a dot called Atlanta. Kemp having his hand in the cookie jar doesn't change that.
So if the Biden electors get removed by lawsuit the Trumps win by default?
Well that’s one way to put it, yeah
WAIT CJ IS A ELECTOR? WE CAN DO THAT?
What does this actually mean?
CJ for governor!
not a surprise they are only "reporting" the Biden electors votes in the results today
🥱 whatever fits their narrative
Monday Blues for the 'Blues' ...
Trump must be psychic. How did he know this would happen?
Remember when he told the presser over a week ago that if the electoral college voted against him he would concede and the press got all excited? Now they're going to rush to ask him to keep his word and concede.
You know what Trump will say when they get there, "I just won. The electors voted for me. We are thrilled. "
The press will howl, "You didn't win! The electors voted for Biden."
Trump, "No, the GOP electors just voted for me"
Left will screech and laugh and say, "They don't count you idiot! They weren't certified! It was meaningless."
"The ones who voted for Biden are meaningless. My electors represent the legal vote and they voted for me."
So basically Trump set up this troll a week back. What happens today means he won't concede, yet he'll also keep his word since the "electors" that matter voted for him.
The Leftists head will explode and they'll laugh haughtily and call him all sorts of names. However, it makes one wonder if Trump knew this would happen when he said that at the presser a week ago. But how could he? It's a very shocking situation.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
2 sets of electors, Pence gets to choose.
Oh lord
https://electionwiz.com/2020/12/14/gop-electors-in-georgia-and-pennsylvania-cast-votes-for-trump/amp/
Is what I am reading real???? It's so hard to know these days
Appears to be real but things are moving so fast now it is hard to keep up and weed out the fake news.
Just the electors from Georgia. Other states may or may not be doing the same.
States can just do whatever, so they should send 1,000 Trump electors.
God bless America!!!
I don't understand how this works. Does this mean that there will be dueling electors in the states where the GOP is sending its own people? I'm a moron, what's happening here? Apparently it's happening in Michigan also.
I'd be ok if dueling was brought back...
Oh.. we talking about different dueling? /s
Is it just me or does "dueling slate of electors" sound like something given in a verse of "The Twelve Days of Christmas"?
a-a-and FOOOUUURR MOOORREEE YEAARRRSSS!!!
Is this official or is it just talk right now?
Official
Link to a non-tweet source?
It’s from the PA GOP verified account
I haven't seen that one yet, link?
Georgia: The Schitzo State