Excellent points. The big question now is timing. I don't think Trump can hold on to this for too long. Losing another SCOTUS case would be bad optics. After all the dem.s cite all the cases Trump has lost and none of the important wins.
I'm hoping for before Dec. 18, and especially before Christmas. But we shall see.
I'll bet though he won't announce his actions until he has arrested a few people and gotten more evidence. Element of surprise.
Ah. He was never a Caesar. He was a Washington. There was no going back to his previous life for Washington either.
And like Washington, once we win our independence from Britain China, though people will call for a 3rd term, he will retire to Mar-a-lago as General Washington did to Mount Vernon.
We live in epic times. You always wonder what it was like to live through certain historical moments ... we are all living through a significant time right now, do you feel it?
I feel it, fren! I believe in reincarnation and maybe it's possible Trump is Washington reincarnated - to lead America in her 3rd time of dire need (1776, 1861, 2020). The OP's assessment (as well as the rest of the thread) of the moves made over the last year all make perfect sense for what is to come. Whatever it is, it will be HUGE and I believe it will take place quickly. All the dominoes have to fall quickly, but as the saying goes "no plan ever survives its first encounter with the enemy"
Living through one of the greatest moments in history in the next month - the forces of good must prevail. Trump will be enshrined on Rushmore once the smoke clears and we've taken the country back from the CCP.
Trump had to wait for certification for a lot of his legal options to be used. I really believe that he's exhausting every single legal option that he can. When he goes ham he can say, "Well, I tried, but the legislatures and judicial branches are compromised, too."
But the longer he waits, the more faith wanes. You know we fight demoralization here and this is THE place that's standing the strongest. I'm watching Stop the Steal FB and MeWe pages wither now. They still believe that Trump won, but they've lost hope of a resolution. At this point, if he made big moves, they'd quickly rally; but I don't know if that energy can be recaptured in another few weeks.
Does he have to wait until after the January 6th official certification? I think that would be a disaster for optics. I don't think that WE have that long. And we definitely don't have until after mid-January. That's just cutting it way too close.
Another thought is that when he strikes, it has to be fast. And he can't give the enemy time to rally.
Guys, they MUST take out the media for this to work. From what I've seen, it typically takes a few days for the media to get on top of one of Trump's moves. They come out hot and throw everything they got at it. They watch what things stick, then focus like a laser beam on those points to steal the narrative.
Trump has to stop the propaganda arm of the socialists in this country dead in its tracks.
Now I lack imagination, but I can only see them being arrested for conspiracy or some other dramatic nonsense. But Trump's usually MUCH more clever than that.
Basically, what you're suggesting, what this EO insurrection act scenario suggests, is a dictator take over, a coup d'etat. That may very well be the best thing that ever happened to the country, a coup d'etat, not against an elected democrat republic, but against a globalist communist China take over of our republic. The problem I see with that scenario is that the entire governmental system and media complex is going to be violently opposed to that. They're not going to be moved by a Scooby Do final scene when the scheming crooks are revealed for all to see. That's would be the biggest shock and awe and trigger for civil war this country has ever seen.
I just am having difficulty believing that's going to happen in literally a moab explosion over the Xmas holidays, six weeks at the most. I'll be shocked and awed if it does. Might be the best thing, the only thing that could save us, but definitely would be one of the most shocking turns of events in global history. I'm still a skeptic.
The alternative is that what they have been doing ultimately works. SCOTUS finally takes a case and rules. No court except SCOTUS matters. Either the dems win in the lower courts and continue with the mantra that Biden won, there's no evidence, or Trump wins and the dems appeal. Ultimately, either SCOTUS rules for Trump or we lose the judicial branch.
They have the current cases, and they have any cases they may file in the near term. If the EO and insurrection act are going to help. they're really running out of time fast. I don't think any of that is going to help. They've got to act, and then based on what they find, they file new cases or strengthen existing ones. They're virtually out of time on that. That's why I say it's either the current cases and current evidence, or we likely lose the Judicial.
Same thing with politicking the legislatures both state and federal. They've made their cases. They can pressure and politick with what they have. They could use the EO/insurrection act to shock and awe, but again, they're running out of time. If they're going to do it, what are they waiting on? Otherwise, they're facing flacid cowardly rino and deep state GOP politicians who are lead around by the nose of the fake news media complex, not to mention China. They aren't doing as well on that as anyone would admit. We saw that yesterday with McConnel. He's got to get either SCOTUS or the legislatures, and I don't really see how he's got time to put a lot on the table that isn't already there, EO or not.
If not SCOTUS or Congress, what he has left is martial law, coup d'etat, violence and riots in the streets, and civil war. He's not going to use that to seize power. Doing so is more likely to make the color revolution successful if anything. The violence will likely happen if SCOTUS or Congress inaugurate Trump for any reason. Either he wins Congress or SCOTUS or it's over. Ultimately he will concede.
Thinking about that now, that's where the EO and the insurrection act probably come into play. Not to cause the inauguration of Trump, but to secure the legitimate inauguration and quell the chaos, unrest, violence, riots that inevitably result before civil war, before the break down of his second term. I think they know they're going to lose, and the break down of his legitimate second term is what the real final goal is. The EO and insurrection act is probably what saves us in the end. That's why nothing has happened. All of this is the prelude to SCOTUS or Congress or both inaugurating Trump. That's when the fight may really begin.
Excellent points. The big question now is timing. I don't think Trump can hold on to this for too long. Losing another SCOTUS case would be bad optics. After all the dem.s cite all the cases Trump has lost and none of the important wins.
I'm hoping for before Dec. 18, and especially before Christmas. But we shall see.
I'll bet though he won't announce his actions until he has arrested a few people and gotten more evidence. Element of surprise.
Lincoln literally arrested a sitting scotus judge we are about to enter completely uncharted territory
Ah. He was never a Caesar. He was a Washington. There was no going back to his previous life for Washington either.
And like Washington, once we win our independence from
BritainChina, though people will call for a 3rd term, he will retire to Mar-a-lago as General Washington did to Mount Vernon.We live in epic times. You always wonder what it was like to live through certain historical moments ... we are all living through a significant time right now, do you feel it?
I feel it, fren! I believe in reincarnation and maybe it's possible Trump is Washington reincarnated - to lead America in her 3rd time of dire need (1776, 1861, 2020). The OP's assessment (as well as the rest of the thread) of the moves made over the last year all make perfect sense for what is to come. Whatever it is, it will be HUGE and I believe it will take place quickly. All the dominoes have to fall quickly, but as the saying goes "no plan ever survives its first encounter with the enemy"
Living through one of the greatest moments in history in the next month - the forces of good must prevail. Trump will be enshrined on Rushmore once the smoke clears and we've taken the country back from the CCP.
The DNI report is due by this Friday (18th Dec) - 45 days as mentioned in the EO from the date of the election. This is going to be a long weekend
This is what I was wondering.
Trump had to wait for certification for a lot of his legal options to be used. I really believe that he's exhausting every single legal option that he can. When he goes ham he can say, "Well, I tried, but the legislatures and judicial branches are compromised, too."
But the longer he waits, the more faith wanes. You know we fight demoralization here and this is THE place that's standing the strongest. I'm watching Stop the Steal FB and MeWe pages wither now. They still believe that Trump won, but they've lost hope of a resolution. At this point, if he made big moves, they'd quickly rally; but I don't know if that energy can be recaptured in another few weeks.
Does he have to wait until after the January 6th official certification? I think that would be a disaster for optics. I don't think that WE have that long. And we definitely don't have until after mid-January. That's just cutting it way too close.
Another thought is that when he strikes, it has to be fast. And he can't give the enemy time to rally.
Guys, they MUST take out the media for this to work. From what I've seen, it typically takes a few days for the media to get on top of one of Trump's moves. They come out hot and throw everything they got at it. They watch what things stick, then focus like a laser beam on those points to steal the narrative.
Trump has to stop the propaganda arm of the socialists in this country dead in its tracks.
Now I lack imagination, but I can only see them being arrested for conspiracy or some other dramatic nonsense. But Trump's usually MUCH more clever than that.
Basically, what you're suggesting, what this EO insurrection act scenario suggests, is a dictator take over, a coup d'etat. That may very well be the best thing that ever happened to the country, a coup d'etat, not against an elected democrat republic, but against a globalist communist China take over of our republic. The problem I see with that scenario is that the entire governmental system and media complex is going to be violently opposed to that. They're not going to be moved by a Scooby Do final scene when the scheming crooks are revealed for all to see. That's would be the biggest shock and awe and trigger for civil war this country has ever seen.
I just am having difficulty believing that's going to happen in literally a moab explosion over the Xmas holidays, six weeks at the most. I'll be shocked and awed if it does. Might be the best thing, the only thing that could save us, but definitely would be one of the most shocking turns of events in global history. I'm still a skeptic.
I'm skeptical, too. When I think about how big this would be, I can't wrap my brain around it.
But when I think about the alternative of it NOT happening... That horror is unthinkable.
The alternative is that what they have been doing ultimately works. SCOTUS finally takes a case and rules. No court except SCOTUS matters. Either the dems win in the lower courts and continue with the mantra that Biden won, there's no evidence, or Trump wins and the dems appeal. Ultimately, either SCOTUS rules for Trump or we lose the judicial branch.
They have the current cases, and they have any cases they may file in the near term. If the EO and insurrection act are going to help. they're really running out of time fast. I don't think any of that is going to help. They've got to act, and then based on what they find, they file new cases or strengthen existing ones. They're virtually out of time on that. That's why I say it's either the current cases and current evidence, or we likely lose the Judicial.
Same thing with politicking the legislatures both state and federal. They've made their cases. They can pressure and politick with what they have. They could use the EO/insurrection act to shock and awe, but again, they're running out of time. If they're going to do it, what are they waiting on? Otherwise, they're facing flacid cowardly rino and deep state GOP politicians who are lead around by the nose of the fake news media complex, not to mention China. They aren't doing as well on that as anyone would admit. We saw that yesterday with McConnel. He's got to get either SCOTUS or the legislatures, and I don't really see how he's got time to put a lot on the table that isn't already there, EO or not.
If not SCOTUS or Congress, what he has left is martial law, coup d'etat, violence and riots in the streets, and civil war. He's not going to use that to seize power. Doing so is more likely to make the color revolution successful if anything. The violence will likely happen if SCOTUS or Congress inaugurate Trump for any reason. Either he wins Congress or SCOTUS or it's over. Ultimately he will concede.
Thinking about that now, that's where the EO and the insurrection act probably come into play. Not to cause the inauguration of Trump, but to secure the legitimate inauguration and quell the chaos, unrest, violence, riots that inevitably result before civil war, before the break down of his second term. I think they know they're going to lose, and the break down of his legitimate second term is what the real final goal is. The EO and insurrection act is probably what saves us in the end. That's why nothing has happened. All of this is the prelude to SCOTUS or Congress or both inaugurating Trump. That's when the fight may really begin.