Basically, what you're suggesting, what this EO insurrection act scenario suggests, is a dictator take over, a coup d'etat. That may very well be the best thing that ever happened to the country, a coup d'etat, not against an elected democrat republic, but against a globalist communist China take over of our republic. The problem I see with that scenario is that the entire governmental system and media complex is going to be violently opposed to that. They're not going to be moved by a Scooby Do final scene when the scheming crooks are revealed for all to see. That's would be the biggest shock and awe and trigger for civil war this country has ever seen.
I just am having difficulty believing that's going to happen in literally a moab explosion over the Xmas holidays, six weeks at the most. I'll be shocked and awed if it does. Might be the best thing, the only thing that could save us, but definitely would be one of the most shocking turns of events in global history. I'm still a skeptic.
The alternative is that what they have been doing ultimately works. SCOTUS finally takes a case and rules. No court except SCOTUS matters. Either the dems win in the lower courts and continue with the mantra that Biden won, there's no evidence, or Trump wins and the dems appeal. Ultimately, either SCOTUS rules for Trump or we lose the judicial branch.
They have the current cases, and they have any cases they may file in the near term. If the EO and insurrection act are going to help. they're really running out of time fast. I don't think any of that is going to help. They've got to act, and then based on what they find, they file new cases or strengthen existing ones. They're virtually out of time on that. That's why I say it's either the current cases and current evidence, or we likely lose the Judicial.
Same thing with politicking the legislatures both state and federal. They've made their cases. They can pressure and politick with what they have. They could use the EO/insurrection act to shock and awe, but again, they're running out of time. If they're going to do it, what are they waiting on? Otherwise, they're facing flacid cowardly rino and deep state GOP politicians who are lead around by the nose of the fake news media complex, not to mention China. They aren't doing as well on that as anyone would admit. We saw that yesterday with McConnel. He's got to get either SCOTUS or the legislatures, and I don't really see how he's got time to put a lot on the table that isn't already there, EO or not.
If not SCOTUS or Congress, what he has left is martial law, coup d'etat, violence and riots in the streets, and civil war. He's not going to use that to seize power. Doing so is more likely to make the color revolution successful if anything. The violence will likely happen if SCOTUS or Congress inaugurate Trump for any reason. Either he wins Congress or SCOTUS or it's over. Ultimately he will concede.
Thinking about that now, that's where the EO and the insurrection act probably come into play. Not to cause the inauguration of Trump, but to secure the legitimate inauguration and quell the chaos, unrest, violence, riots that inevitably result before civil war, before the break down of his second term. I think they know they're going to lose, and the break down of his legitimate second term is what the real final goal is. The EO and insurrection act is probably what saves us in the end. That's why nothing has happened. All of this is the prelude to SCOTUS or Congress or both inaugurating Trump. That's when the fight may really begin.
Exactly. Someone challenged me when I said we better get up off our couches and make sure we primary all these fuckers. Only, yeah, we'll never have another legitimate election again. So, we're fucked. Hopefully Congress or SCOTUS will sort it out. Otherwise we're fucked no matter what and God only knows what happens, and I don't believe in God.
You're misunderstanding what I said. I said if Trump loses both Congress and SCOTUS, he's not going to do a military coup d'etat. I don't believe he'll use the military/insurrection act/EO to re-install himself as president. I predict that either he wins in the state legislatures, Congress, or SCOTUS, or it's over in less than 5 weeks. I just read an article about a meeting with Powell, Gulliani, Meadows, Flynn, Trump's personal lawyer, and the idea of using the military was soundly shot down. Another story just now on TGP: Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy and Army chief of staff Gen. James McConville released a statement Friday saying they will not participate in a martial law order following the stolen election.
Trump is in an increasingly small bubble in the Whitehouse. Either he gets the legislatures or the courts, or he's done. If anything, the insurrection act and EO come after Trump's legitimate inauguration. Short of legitimacy from the other two branches, he's going to need a civil war in DC starting on the 6th.
Basically, what you're suggesting, what this EO insurrection act scenario suggests, is a dictator take over, a coup d'etat. That may very well be the best thing that ever happened to the country, a coup d'etat, not against an elected democrat republic, but against a globalist communist China take over of our republic. The problem I see with that scenario is that the entire governmental system and media complex is going to be violently opposed to that. They're not going to be moved by a Scooby Do final scene when the scheming crooks are revealed for all to see. That's would be the biggest shock and awe and trigger for civil war this country has ever seen.
I just am having difficulty believing that's going to happen in literally a moab explosion over the Xmas holidays, six weeks at the most. I'll be shocked and awed if it does. Might be the best thing, the only thing that could save us, but definitely would be one of the most shocking turns of events in global history. I'm still a skeptic.
I'm skeptical, too. When I think about how big this would be, I can't wrap my brain around it.
But when I think about the alternative of it NOT happening... That horror is unthinkable.
The alternative is that what they have been doing ultimately works. SCOTUS finally takes a case and rules. No court except SCOTUS matters. Either the dems win in the lower courts and continue with the mantra that Biden won, there's no evidence, or Trump wins and the dems appeal. Ultimately, either SCOTUS rules for Trump or we lose the judicial branch.
They have the current cases, and they have any cases they may file in the near term. If the EO and insurrection act are going to help. they're really running out of time fast. I don't think any of that is going to help. They've got to act, and then based on what they find, they file new cases or strengthen existing ones. They're virtually out of time on that. That's why I say it's either the current cases and current evidence, or we likely lose the Judicial.
Same thing with politicking the legislatures both state and federal. They've made their cases. They can pressure and politick with what they have. They could use the EO/insurrection act to shock and awe, but again, they're running out of time. If they're going to do it, what are they waiting on? Otherwise, they're facing flacid cowardly rino and deep state GOP politicians who are lead around by the nose of the fake news media complex, not to mention China. They aren't doing as well on that as anyone would admit. We saw that yesterday with McConnel. He's got to get either SCOTUS or the legislatures, and I don't really see how he's got time to put a lot on the table that isn't already there, EO or not.
If not SCOTUS or Congress, what he has left is martial law, coup d'etat, violence and riots in the streets, and civil war. He's not going to use that to seize power. Doing so is more likely to make the color revolution successful if anything. The violence will likely happen if SCOTUS or Congress inaugurate Trump for any reason. Either he wins Congress or SCOTUS or it's over. Ultimately he will concede.
Thinking about that now, that's where the EO and the insurrection act probably come into play. Not to cause the inauguration of Trump, but to secure the legitimate inauguration and quell the chaos, unrest, violence, riots that inevitably result before civil war, before the break down of his second term. I think they know they're going to lose, and the break down of his legitimate second term is what the real final goal is. The EO and insurrection act is probably what saves us in the end. That's why nothing has happened. All of this is the prelude to SCOTUS or Congress or both inaugurating Trump. That's when the fight may really begin.
Exactly. Someone challenged me when I said we better get up off our couches and make sure we primary all these fuckers. Only, yeah, we'll never have another legitimate election again. So, we're fucked. Hopefully Congress or SCOTUS will sort it out. Otherwise we're fucked no matter what and God only knows what happens, and I don't believe in God.
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You're saying Insurrection Act wouldn't work. That's why he's President and you aren't.
You're misunderstanding what I said. I said if Trump loses both Congress and SCOTUS, he's not going to do a military coup d'etat. I don't believe he'll use the military/insurrection act/EO to re-install himself as president. I predict that either he wins in the state legislatures, Congress, or SCOTUS, or it's over in less than 5 weeks. I just read an article about a meeting with Powell, Gulliani, Meadows, Flynn, Trump's personal lawyer, and the idea of using the military was soundly shot down. Another story just now on TGP: Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy and Army chief of staff Gen. James McConville released a statement Friday saying they will not participate in a martial law order following the stolen election.
Trump is in an increasingly small bubble in the Whitehouse. Either he gets the legislatures or the courts, or he's done. If anything, the insurrection act and EO come after Trump's legitimate inauguration. Short of legitimacy from the other two branches, he's going to need a civil war in DC starting on the 6th.