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Count_Dyscalculia [S] 64 points ago +64 / -0

There is NO Talking to People who've just gained total control over the Voting System. There is NO NEGOTIATING with someone who's now in a position of GOD. There is only begging them to NOT KILL YOU OR YOUR CHILDREN and to Pretty Please let them have Food and a Job so as to Live for Their Profit.

Do ANY of you actually understand what the fuck is going on?

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Jimmy_Russler 9 points ago +10 / -1

If he just steps down on Jan 21st he was merely a slow release valve for patriot's anger and this entire election cycle was a humiliation ritual to demonstrate you have no representation or say in what happens

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Wowzer_papi 5 points ago +6 / -1

That’s exactly right. That’s exactly what that fag Q shit was all about too.

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Redpillhope 4 points ago +6 / -2

Please explain why all the changes in the DoD and DOJ Trmp has made since Nov 10.

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Wowzer_papi 0 points ago +1 / -1

Explain why no one was arrested in 4 years despite overwhelming evidence. Q is a faggot and Qtips get the rope too

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21ninjas 1 point ago +1 / -0

This post is DISPOOOOOTED!!!

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hunterhiden 1 point ago +2 / -1

Ok if you say nothing will happen get the fuck outta here right now id rather have all the qfags that the doomer cucks who do nothing but suck energy out of here. Why the fuck wouldnt he use his own EO and invoke IA? If he doesnt then hes crooked. Simple as that. If he hasn’t yet but still has a month to do so then maybe suck a dick to pass the time if you cant handle the wait

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hunterhiden 1 point ago +1 / -0

What happens if he does use it? What are you gonna do then? And if he doesn’t? If you know Trump’s not on our side why are you here?

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hunterhiden 0 points ago +1 / -1

The question is why the fuck are you here handshake doomer faggot

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Wtf_socialismreally 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't think tanks would be necessary but also yes

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Mozart_K231 8 points ago +8 / -0

Right? Every election will be rigged. It’s not just politicians either.

What about votes on budget increases? School funding? Proposition 12345abc or whatever shit they put on ballots.

It’s all fucking rigged!

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Chick-fill-eh 9 points ago +12 / -3

HoLd ThE lInE!!1!

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JohnStark 14 points ago +14 / -0

It’s infuriating. Wake up people. This is it. We’re here, this is what we’ve talked about for a long time. The only ones left to fix this are We the People. Nobody wants to accept it, but it’s reality.

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Ghostof_PatrickHenry 7 points ago +7 / -0

Sure do.

Waiting to see if Trump is going to round these traitors up for execution, or if we are gonna have to do it ourselves.

We stand at the ready.

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Mozart_K231 6 points ago +6 / -0

I’ve been saying it since the Supreme Court punted the Texas case.

All the additional evidence people bring forward is pointless. The courts aren’t going to act on it.

Every time I see a new post with more evidence. I think, “well, that doesn’t surprise me...” then I think, “too bad no court is going to act on it.”

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DonJr2032 -6 points ago +11 / -17

This post is false. Dominion Voting Systems did not use SolarWinds for it's monitoring systems. Even if they did, it doesn't mean anything at all unless they used Orion for their monitoring systems, as that was the only product affected. They did use a SolarWinds product named Serv-U, which is totally unrelated to the hack.

If anyone can prove this otherwise, please post here, but I don't believe you can. Please stop spreading false information about this.

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OrangeElvis 6 points ago +6 / -0

This is correct, as far as what we know. Was Dominion compromised in multiple ways? Yes. However, lets not fall for the trick of promoting the one way it was NOT compromised so the other side can prove it, point and laugh and discredit the entire issue of compromised voting machines.

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Isolated_Patriot 10 points ago +10 / -0

Dominion CEO claimed under oath they do not use SolarWinds. Not a specific product, the company. They also went our of their way to modify the website to hide the SolarWinds logo.

SolarWinds own employees tried to ditch stock before they were called out in public, showing that the company, not just one piece of software, is comprimised.

It no longer even matters if Dominion was compromised by SolarWinds or not. It's now about lying and covering up the connection.

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OrangeElvis 2 points ago +2 / -0

Weeds. Focus on the actual vote switching.

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Isolated_Patriot 6 points ago +7 / -1

Oh look, a wild snopes article appears.

You headlined with "pants on fire" and then admitted in the content that they do, in fact, use SolarWinds, just like described.

Oh, but only one of their products was compromised! It's not like the business itself was comprised and the CEO tried to ditch stock a few days before they were publicly found out.

Sorry, SolarWinds is tainted goods, and having tainted goods on the tainted goods owned by tainted goods IS FUCKING IMPORTANT.

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DonJr2032 0 points ago +2 / -2

You headlined with "pants on fire" and then admitted in the content that they do, in fact, use SolarWinds, just like described.

WRONG. It says they used SolarWinds for their monitoring system, which implies they used the hacked Orion monitoring system from SolarWinds. I stated this is false, and it is. Not only do they not use Orion (the only product impacted), but they don't use any SolarWinds product for systems monitoring.

They use an FTP server from SolarWinds.

Like I said, if I'm wrong, prove it, but you won't be able to as I've researched this and there is nothing indicating otherwise.

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Isolated_Patriot 2 points ago +3 / -1

You have already proven your own hypocrisy, there is nothing left for me to prove since it's written in your own words.

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DonJr2032 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ok, but this is not true. You stated false things that I said. You are fabricating information in order to defend misinformation in OP's post.

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Chick-fill-eh 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lol. I'm sure a software with a huge backdoor only has one backdoor and only on one product. Lol

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DonJr2032 1 point ago +1 / -0

Say whatever you want, but SolarWinds is huge and they have may different types of products, separated into different divisions, all independent.
Orion does not equal an FTP server.

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Chick-fill-eh 3 points ago +3 / -0

Microsoft is huge too, and it's confirmed that every single product contains a backdoor.

Solarwinds would be foolish not to include such a large source of income in their programs.

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DonJr2032 1 point ago +1 / -0

That is different. You could use that line of thought with any company, not just SolarWinds.

Yes, it's possible that every major piece of software from every company has a backdoor in it that has been placed there by other states so they can steal information/data.

That is not what we are discussing here though. We are discussing misinformation about a company using an FTP server from SolarWinds, and someone falsely claiming they use a different hacked product from SolarWinds for monitoring of their servers/devices.

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GodGunsGuitars 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nobody calls Orion “Orion” they call it Solarwinds. The same way people call Alphabet company Google.

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DonJr2032 1 point ago +1 / -0

WRONG. SolarWinds has at least 50 different totally separate programs, divided between their standalone and msp divisions (which are like separate companies within). Each product has their own brand name and that's what they go by.

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GodGunsGuitars 1 point ago +1 / -0

WRONG

Everybody calls Orion Solarwinds and I’ve been around. You just don’t get around to places that use it.

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usdodsgssog 13 points ago +13 / -0

Yes please. Arrest these fucking traitors and open up the country to a free and fair election so we can get some patriots back into our government.

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silentnoobxd 12 points ago +12 / -0

A few weeks of dealing with leftists being smug and having convenient amnesia, and I'm ready to see this candle lit. I'd love to see them crying at a legal defeat, but I really wanna see traitors hang and am now certain their operatives in our party will keep them safe from paying their dues.

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redhawk 6 points ago +6 / -0

funny how the CEO denied all these points in the AZ hearing yesterday

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ModsTakeYuan 6 points ago +7 / -1

I don't know if you knew this. But there's an army of 74 million people who don't need an order to act.

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Wtf_socialismreally 4 points ago +4 / -0

They don't, but there need to be more emergent leaderships. That's really the problem; not enough leadership. Especially when being a leader gets the federal government turned against you

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Spikeball 5 points ago +5 / -0
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blinddoggy 4 points ago +4 / -0

Thank you for sharing this!

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Spikeball 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah it's not the most eloquent thing in the world. Just for the record I didn't make it, I saw it on here

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Dragofireheart 3 points ago +3 / -0

Trump will not invoke this act until after Jan 6th.

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You_Aint_Black 1 point ago +3 / -2

Has to be within 45 days of the election according to the EO. I think.

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Dragofireheart 5 points ago +5 / -0

I think it's the report within 45 days, then using the EO 45 days after that.

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You_Aint_Black 2 points ago +3 / -1

Could be. Who knows?

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Dragofireheart 5 points ago +5 / -0

I do honestly believe Trump is trying less nuclear options first.

I also firmly believe he'd use EO and other powers if those peaceful options fail.

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You_Aint_Black 2 points ago +2 / -0

I want to believe that. I really do. But a few days ago we were trying to talk ourselves into believing that Bill Barr was buttoning up a bombshell case against the deep state from behind enemy lines.

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Dragofireheart 3 points ago +3 / -0

You guys were, lol.

Barr was always a swamp creature. The lack of action on Hunter-Biden was the obvious red flag. I'm surprised it took this long for him to get fired.

Trump has to work with swamp creatures because there's so many. Unavoidable.

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You_Aint_Black 1 point ago +1 / -0

Believe me, I wasn't. But don't tell me that wasn't the prevailing narrative a week ago. And I'm actually not surprised it took him so long to be fired. Look at all the filth that still works in administration. To be honest, my view is that Occam's Razor applies and we must accept the most obvious explanation. Trump has terrible, traitorous advisers. Either he hasn't figured out which ones they are (somewhat unlikely, though possible because of familial relationships and personal emotional investment) or because he thinks you can cut deals with these people. Politics is so different from business, he may expect people to behave according to logic and self-interest, instead of according to ideological fantasies about how they want to mold and manipulate society.

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T-Bear 3 points ago +3 / -0

45 days after the election is this Friday (Dec 18).

The EO assigns several departments to make reports concerning the extent of foreign interference within the then-future 2020 national elections, tracing money flows/sources, property, media connections, bribes, and digital information flow.

Those reports were due BY this coming Friday.

Those departments mentioned in EO 13848 ALL met with Trump yesterday. I would think that the reports were submitted ahead of schedule and under budget - the way Trump likes things done.

Trump is reported to be meeting with his full Cabinet this morning.

If these reports have the conclusion of massive fraud (electronic and otherwise), foreign influence on our election (even if it is just sending our electronic votes out of country), and massive foreign funding of the fraud, the media censorship/propaganda, and the cover-up - well, that EO can be activated at any time after the reports have been submitted and discussed.

Trump does not need to wait another 45 days.

I cannot help but feel Trump didn't go through all of this, to just fizzle at the end.

No "trusting the plan" here - I am trusting Trump's character he is going to make his move between now and January 5.

Why January 5? Because Mitch has tipped his hat that he and the majority of the GOP cannot be trusted to have Trump/Pence's back when Pence opens those Electoral College envelopes on January 6.

He may pick a very traditional day...one very few would expect him to move on, as most of his enemies don't think he'll pull the trigger.

Christmas morning.

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You_Aint_Black 2 points ago +2 / -0

The only thing that makes me skeptical is that none of these dream scenarios have ever played out over the last four years. But I like the story so we’ll see.

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T-Bear 4 points ago +4 / -0

Trump knows that if he doesn't act...his voters will revolt without him. Patriots are fed up and angry, and we are facing a civil crisis now that is every bit as dire as 160 years ago.

If Trump doesn't act - he knows his supporters will never again have a voice or a fair vote. Fair and honest elections will never be held again.

If Trump doesn't act, he knows he is serving up himself and his family to be sacrificed upon the Communist altar, as an example of what happens when the peasants and serf do not follow the "sage advise" of their "noble betters".

Because of these things...I trust Trump will act. Simple reality of what happens otherwise drives this conclusion. And I do not think Trump will act in only a self-preserving way, either, and leave America to her fate.

The best way to limit the damage to America and the world, is to take some kind of action to wrench his Presidency away from the fraudulent outcome, and start cleaning up the electoral mess.

Again, this is no "trust the plan" thing...this is a "trust Trump, because of who he has shown himself to be so far".

If he falters over the next 22 days...I'll sadly eat the dish of crow served cold. Then pick up a rifle to go speed up the process....

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You_Aint_Black 4 points ago +4 / -0

Then pick up a rifle to go speed up the process....

This is the part I'm worried about. We've been told so long to "trust the plan, don't resort to violence, no need to worry, Trump's got this, etc. etc. etc."... face it, we won't know what to do IF the worst happens (and I promise you I pray every night that it doesn't come to that and Trump follows through with what is obviously necessary here). We have programmed ourselves (or possibly been subject to an intense psy-op) to submit to complacency. There's always a deus ex machina around the corner. And if Trump says something more about 2024 (and it wouldn't be the first mention), you know DAMN well there's going to be a flood of posts here insisting that "2024 was the plan all along, tRuSt ThE pLaN!!!" So when you pick up that rifle, who's going with you to make sure you aren't a lone wolf taken out by 60 of our "bOyS iN bLuE"?

Call me a "doomer" or downvote me or whatever (not YOU specifically, just in general), but I JUST DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE FUCKING COUNTRY.

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T-Bear 3 points ago +3 / -0 (edited)

You're not a doomer - you're a 'Pede genuinely worried for the future.

I get it. I've been waiting for certain types to get hauled off to jail and heads to roll. I've been frustrated to no end, seeing evil parade itself smugly in the streets, while the righteous are left powerless, or worse, left in the jails to rot unjustly (looking at General Flynn and Kyle Rittenhouse on this one).

I dearly want to see justice done while I am in the land of the living...as the Bible puts it.

Should this fraud stand...there will be NO 2022 or 2024. Trump cannot come in as a third party and win, with the current "pay-for-power" electoral system in place. He beat the system once - they will not allow this to happen again.

I'm decidedly NOT a "trust the plan" person. I have been left out in the cold way too many times, been disappointed far too many times, to ever trust "the plan" again.

I'm left with trusting people's character, as they've demonstrated themselves to be over time. I have found that once you see the pattern in one's demonstrated character, you can predict their decisions and actions in the future.

There's no psychic crap to that, nor being a prophet, nor is it rocket science. We are predictable according to our demonstrated character (whether for good or for evil).

What I've seen of Trump means he will not let this go.

As far as for picking up that rifle...if it comes to that, then all bets of future prosperity, and that of our descendants, have been called off by our enemies. Our last initiative to do this peacefully has failed.

If my fate is to go down in a hail of bullets by 60 of the "just following orders' bOyS iN bLuE surrounding me alone...then I will take as many with me as possible, so that there are fewer of them when they go illegaly and unjustly storm the next guy. Not an appetizing thought, I know, but there are times in life when our choices are BAD and WORSE. LEO's have shown they are NOT our allies in this, until they prove to be.

I pray it never comes to that. Yet, the value God has placed upon human life - even mine own - is far more precious than to allow it to be so dehumanized in being forced to bow before the false gods being brought to bear upon us.

If this country is lost - I have no desire to live in the alternative. The alternative already has me on their lists somewhere, so they're coming for me is but a matter of time. It is my Godly duty to resist that alternative.

You're right - most people have accepted the programming for pacifism and complacency. A more accurate term is apathy toward their fellow man. People have been conditioned to make the easy choice, not the right choice.

I have NO DESIRE to LOSE this country nor its founding principles. I also have NO DEATHWISH to simply throw my life away. My life experience, though, is that I don't always get what I desire.

'Pede, keep praying for God to work in ways higher than we can reach. Keep praying for those people God has placed in those areas where the fight can be fought. Keep praying we don't have to be called to face this isolated and alone.

Keep praying God has a better day for us all in mind.

SPEZ: fixed a typo

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MemeWarsVet 1 point ago +1 / -0

I suspect it will be shortly after the DNI report comes out.

12/21 has a nice ring to it.

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Dragofireheart 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hmmmm...

I wonder if he would do it that soon. Wouldn't he wait for congress to vote first?

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MemeWarsVet 2 points ago +2 / -0

Depends on what his lawyers advise, I'd think.

You would like to think that irrefutable proof of election changing fraud would trump the formal 1/6 vote, but laws are weird and he still has to operate within the law.

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Dragofireheart 1 point ago +1 / -0

He does. But if he has military backing him with evidence of foreign interference...

That is game changing. Not just local governor losers being scumbags. Actual foreign interference. That would given Trump more precedent to justify EO/Insurrection Act/martial law/etc

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MemeWarsVet 2 points ago +2 / -0

The recent CCP events that even made the MSM are no accident:

Stalwell Spy list leak SolarWinds

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MinneapolisPede 4 points ago +4 / -0

The electors aren’t contested.

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MinneapolisPede 4 points ago +4 / -0

But they aren’t certified. Only the Dem electors were certified. The GOP electors were as useful as you and I pledging our support to Trump. In the Hawaii example (which everyone refers to), the governor certified BOTH sets of electors.

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swedepede316 2 points ago +2 / -0

It might have already been invoked. It's not like it would be all over the news if it was.

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LibreFloridaMan 2 points ago +2 / -0

The EO from 2018 gives him authority to do just that. It's coming but it won't be his first move. He is looking to flip either WI and AZ naturally. Then there will be conclusive evidence of fraud. Then since the opposing side no longer have a defense, states like NV, CO, NM will probably look into it on their own. He will likely use it on either PA, GA, and MI. He will use it on the states that refuse to budge and do forensic audits.

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geewhiz 1 point ago +1 / -0

is scotus the only way to 'flip' a state naturally after the EC votes have been cast?

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fwesh 2 points ago +2 / -0

If trump doesn't invoke it then Biden will. And we'll be the target.

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Count_Dyscalculia [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's my Fear.

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philasoma 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nobody who has sacrificed their life for this country can be said to have died in vain. They died to secure a future for the country they loved, which they absolutely did and will be forever remembered for.

Modern liberalism is very likely the World's next great nefarious ideology. It has all the telltale signs of a corrosive mindset. We'll have to decide what to do.

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PonySoldier66 1 point ago +1 / -0

There is a perfectly clean way out of this:

Biden / Harris on a CNN ABC MSN NBC etc. simulcast address.

Concession and Admission of Election Fraud. like a telethon for 6 hours.

Perfectly clean.

No, I'm not holding my breath, but that is a completely clean way out. And the architect is the author of "The Art of the Deal"...

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TheTuckerDiaries 1 point ago +1 / -0

That’s the Trump card

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GodGunsGuitars 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes the republicans can’t be trusted just like McConnell even tho we tried to give him redemption.

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clampie 1 point ago +1 / -0

This will not be happening. I will take financial bets over it.

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MakeALaskaGreatAgain 1 point ago +1 / -0

Time to fight they aren’t going to just let us walk out of this trap!

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VoterIDMatters 1 point ago +1 / -0

there goes the “withheld for the protection of national security” excuse

since we have none

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AZTrumpFan 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am going to keep pointing people to my post from yesterday, because for some lame-ass reason I can never get any traction on TDW, no matter what I do.

I think GEOTUS already crossed the Rubicon...in 2018!

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happy_nationalist 1 point ago +1 / -0

Looks like things may be turning around on the state level. No need for military yet.

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Count_Dyscalculia [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I want the Military Solution as it allows me to fix a few things that need fixing on a personal level.

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nomoreprinkles 1 point ago +1 / -0

Twitch polls are actually more secure

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maverick2020 0 points ago +1 / -1

No one died for "Democracy" we are a Republic. Huge Difference!

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