The group has taken America in this fashion because
It allows them to get around 2A.
People only fight back when you take away too much freeedom at once. If you do it bit by bit over time and condition new generations, the population is complacent and 2A doesn't mean shit.
That's why Trump was such a threat to them. He forced them to accelerate the process, so there was a risk it would be too much for the American people to take all at once. Well, we are about to find out if they will succeed or not. If we don't fight for freedom now, we never will.
lmao - what, literally locking people in their homes and destroying businesses to the tune of 25% unemployment rate (from fucking 3%) wasn't "too much taking at once?
People are cowards, is the simple answer. They all look towards someone else to save them - even most people here are saying "HELP US, TRUMP!" and not really doing anything themselves to help themselves.
Information technology was converted by the Deep State from a tool into a weapon. But the weapon is a two-edged sword... There are limits to how much information you can control, i.e., distort, suppress or manufacture. The Internet remains a vast wilderness of possibilities despite the attempt to pave it over with a superhighway gatewayed by unaccountable agencies with secret and sinister agendas.
From the beginning, the Internet has been a dynamic, unstable combination of totalitarian and anarchic possibilities, with the former exploited by the forces of darkness, the latter by patriots, freedom-lovers, cranks, white-hat hackers, shitposters, a whole motley army of people who don't follow the DS script:
Uncompromised online news outlets like OAN
Citizen advocates, activists and lawfare warriors like Tom Fitton
Citizen journalism, such as readers will find on rogue platforms like ours with their subversive, memorable memes and their power to disseminate truth through the aggregation of quasi-Samizdat sources of knowledge like those listed above. as well as what community members themselves post and discuss.
The almost-inevitable cybersecurity vulnerabilities of the most secretive agencies, unpredictably exploited by lone operators with IT skills that equal or exceed those of the highest-level insiders (Snowden, Assange)
All these factors and more constitute a Resistance to the most determined attempts at totalitarian centralization that would allow the DS total and permanent control. The truth will set us free, and put them in jail.
For the most dangerous truth for the DS, the one they are most anxious to withhold from us, is simply this: That we are many, they are few. Isolated and divided, we're pawns. Once we realize our overwhelming numbers, the evil powers are exposed, and the hunters become the hunted.
With heroic leadership and a determined populace, it takes just one spark to ignite a history-changing recapture of power BY the people FOR the people from the enemies OF the people.
This election is that spark. The explosion is gradual and as yet not loud, but it is building, and before too long, the climactic V for Vendetta moment will come, the momentum will turn our way and we will be unstoppable. We will centralize for the purpose of DE-centralizing and liberating the power that Corruption has been consolidating for decade after decade. We the people will give back power to ourselves.
We are going to take back this fucking country. Deus vult!
I expected there to be a lot of fraud, but never on this level. Even if people voted 10:1 Trump:Biden, they would have still frauded their way to victory.
I'm not even a fan of Democracy to be honest (I'm somewhat AnCap), but if you disenfranchise 60% of the country with fraudulent elections, the government isn't legitimate even according to it's own justifications. We've invaded other countries to spread democracy, and blast other countries that don't run fair elections, and yet in our own country our government is unwilling to address blatant election fraud.
It makes me wonder how many of our "elected" officials weren't elected, if they are so protective of the fraud and unwilling to investigate.
also Rand Paul... but we're not going to do anything about it until next time and by then you'll have forgotten that we said we'll do something about it.
Bingo, this is how the socialists manage to stay in power in Europe, massive immigration from dysfunctional countries, radical Islamic and completely useless people, just like the socialists themselves.
South Americans are at least Christians and don't mind honest work, but vote cattle is still a pretty big issue. Even if the system is fixed right away and Trump wins, the left will still use vote cattle in 2024. They're already using it.
That's why our system was setup to prevent mob rule. Direct democracy always degenerates into autocracy. Voting your coalition to be king of the hill and everyone else forced to be indentured servants through law.
Are they though? Will they stay that way while here? We are throwing decent immigrants into a pretty toxic culture. Nobody asked for this social experiment.
They are definitely still learning democrat but as democrats go further away from family values and more towards socialism they will lose the hispanic voters.
You're linking data from 8 years ago. Trump hit record numbers with Hispanics this year and without the fraud he may have even broke 50% with them. We'll never actually know.
Rand Paul is slightly wrong; we should address election fraud TODAY. Not "in the future" We're not enforcing the laws we already have, or upholding the constitution we already have.
International fraud would have been done through the Frankfurt servers and nearly impossible to prove, there is proof of foreign interference tho, people from allover the world that was connected to those servers.
When the left is cheating, they'll use any means possible.
With respect, Mr. Navigator, do you have access to all the information the executive branch has been tasked with reviewing to make that determination?
Off the top of my pointy head, I can recall at least one referenced internet traffic report / affidavit confirming overseas data flow.
Then you follow the money ... the decades long corruption of the ‘cRATs nominees family members still under investigation. There are familial ties from spouses to multi-million dollar deals in Communist China - a nation where ONLY CCP members are allowed a seat at the table and, unlike the US, foreigners must cede 51 percent majority stake to the People’s (HA!) Republic of China.
Shoot, the ranking senator from California had a Chinese spy for a go-fer for years, the doofus stink bomb Swalwell had one for a campaign bundler...
Could go on, but the fact these Dominion machines and their ilk are also aimed at a GLOBAL market while also becoming the de facto standard in various crooked Democratic major swing state cities is, to this American, another in a long line of (Communist) RED FLAGS.
(The writer excuses himself with a private, face-palm)
I appreciate your response. I read it in its entirety and I'll respond to clarify what I mean.
do you have access to all the information the executive branch has been tasked with reviewing to make that determination?
No and that's exactly what I am saying. I'm not saying foreign interference didn't happen, only that I haven't seen evidence of it. I have seen evidence that 1) deceased people voted; 2) felons voted; 3) a large number of votes were counted in violation of state laws; 4) GOP representatives were treated unfairly in contested states. Those are all verifiable examples of domestic interference.
Everything else in your post is conjecture. We don't have evidence votes were changed overseas, though we do have votes were changed somehow. You can make an argument that foreign money influenced our election, but to what degree? That's difficult to measure and without concrete data impossible to argue. Suffice to say while foreign interference is certainly possible, I'm not going to go around telling people it happened until we can verify to what extent it actually did. This is in stark contrast to the examples of domestic fraud listed above.
(The writer excuses himself with a private, face-palm)
As you may know, statements like this are essentially a not-so-subtle claim that you know better than me. Do you?
This is just the more recent information that, if it pertained to “muh Russia” and were available to the special counsel we funded to the tune of $40 million to torment the Trump Administration, the barking heads on CNN would be blathering about it nonstop to this day.
And the China-‘cRAT ties go back even further... check out this 1996 conjecture that a Chinese national illegally contributed campaign funds to the Bill Clinton campaign.
The sprawling fundraising scandal ultimately led to 22 guilty pleas on various violations of election laws.
Much of this information has been hiding in plain sight, We The People just haven’t been paying attention and our fellow Americans earning their livings by virtue of our First Amendment have been doing such a piss poor, they should be embarrassed and ashamed.
Figured typical cuck who opines yet cant get off their ass to do something and act all holy because they are an "independent". These are the cucks that dont vote in the primaries and that is why we end up with uniparty in the general
Fuck right off with that low energy cuck shit. Like a guys wife banging another dude and the cuck goes on to say “I love you but in the future let me watch”
He said “this was safest election ever when it came to the Internet” (meaning the MSM sources) but that these same people, including Krebs, have nothing to say about the fraud happening on the ground, in the precincts, and in the back rooms of tabulating centers.
This sub drives me crazy of how many times it can’t listen and use critical thinking. It literally just wants to hang every single elected official... Reddit style.
How the hell does Rand make a definitive statement on the lack of foreign interference in this election?
This whole fucking election was built on the China Virus. And Chinese machines and Chinese payoffs. Look at Governor Kemp. Look at laptop from hell.
To be fair, have this thread thinks he literally said “fraud happened and in this election was stolen”
And then thinks he said it’s the safest election ever... except they didn’t listen to what he said afterwards which is “it’s the safest election ever in terms of the Internet (social media and MSM narrative), but none of them have anything to say about dead / illegal / etc votes.
I guess literally every elected official ever is a cuck, unless it’s fits a stupid ass Cocaine Mitch meme for a day.
Most certainly. The seven states that sent competing Electors is a Constitutional path. That enabled the fraud lawsuits to continue and they or one will end up in the SCOTUS most likely after the SHTF show on Jan. 6th. VP Pence can reject the democrap electors in the contested states on Jan 6th. That will then take the election to the House and Senate (I think) where each state will have one vote. There are more Republican controlled legislatures than there are democrap and Trump/Pence should win. Or if there is a big stink about that, then SCOTUS. That is the nutshell of it.
if I understand correctly, Pence can only count certified electors. if there is a dispute it goes to the House and Senate where we currently lose. Currently we do not seem to have the votes in the Senate. Both houses need to agree on states electors being bullshit to override. At that point, like you are saying then it goes to individual state votes. But only after House+Senate approval.
Two sets of electors seemingly only matters if a number of states get close enough where the results are very close to being or decertified completely.
I believe that is where the fraud lawsuits come into play. There are many seats in the House and Senate that are fraudulent as well. SCOTUS will/may be the last stop. So much confusion as to what can happen.
I ultimately believe that the Insurrection Act will be implemented. The military is the only way to really clean the swamp.
This fraud cannot be accepted. This is like being back at school and someone just walks up to you and smacks you in the face. You have one chance to put him on his ass, or it will happen again and again for the remainder of your time there.
All GOP, with or without backbone, should be referring to the treatment of President Trump for the past 4 years as being a massive factor in this fraud. They gaslit 1/3rd of the nation into thinking he was Hitler while his children were selling influence on the side, all while ignoring their own malfeasance.
Why is Rand Paul spouting this nonsense about what Krebs said? We know what he said. Everyone knows what he said. What he said was, (and I'm paraphrasing here), "We fucking stole the election from Donald Trump using Dominion software and gave it Joe "Chynaboy" Biden. The system worked exactly as planned. There were no technical problems." So, Rand, he wasn't talking about dead people voting. We already know that.
No shit, Rand. If you have the balls, then do something about it unless China Mitch uses some Asian "intern" to "massage" them so you can "flip." White men are greedy and stupid. Keep falling for the oldest tactics, but effective, in the world- money and sex. Works every time.
Or what about the Dominion fraud , Mr Paul? Sounds like he was being sleazy. Dominion and other voting machines are the key and don't let them try and make it only about dead people and illegals. The voting machines is how these scum on both sides stay in power.
To all freedom-loving Americans: Even if our government, president, vice president, etc. don't come through to stop this steal, WE THE PEOPLE STILL HAVE OPTIONS. We don't have to accept this. Our founding fathers did not. Our freedoms are TOO IMPORTANT TO ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN. OUR COUNTRY WILL BE GONE. ALWAYS REMEMBER: THE ANSWER TO 1984 IS 1776.
And most of our GOP are pussies. Look. I donated over 40K this last election. Small change versus dark money, true, BUT NEVER AGAIN! The Cornyn, McConnels, Bushes, and all the other POS GOPers need to go away. McConnel can become a minority “leader”.
I will support with all my heart a Trump party. Fuck the non-Trump supporting Washington Swamp
No Senator Paul, the way to fix it is by enforcing the US Constitution NOW. Most of these new rules/regs in this past election were done illegally as they were done by Governors, Judges and elected officials other than State Legislatures. Only state legislatures can do so, otherwise it is a violation of the US Constitution. The Supreme Court has already said so. Use that ruling and straiten this crap out now. All those votes being voided would be on the people who did not follow the law of the land, the US Constitution. They’ll remember not to do that crap in the future.
Hol' up there, partner. "The only way it will be fixed is by, IN THE FUTURE, reinforcing the laws ... It was the most secure election based on security of the internet and technology."
Though he does go on to state his opinion that the election was stolen by local voter fraud -- dead people voting, non-citizens voting, people who broke absentee rules.
It allows them to get around 2A.
People only fight back when you take away too much freeedom at once. If you do it bit by bit over time and condition new generations, the population is complacent and 2A doesn't mean shit.
That's why Trump was such a threat to them. He forced them to accelerate the process, so there was a risk it would be too much for the American people to take all at once. Well, we are about to find out if they will succeed or not. If we don't fight for freedom now, we never will.
This is why his chaos candidacy is beautiful. It has forced their hand. We will succeed.
Now we need him to object to the slate of presidential electors from multiple states with Representative Mo Brooks of Alabama!
Call Rand and let him know!
Phone: 270-782-8303
Send a message: https://www.paul.senate.gov/contact
Rand already knows and plans to contest electors from what I've read. Could be rumors though.
He just said "the only remedy is to fix it for next time". Pressure needed!!!
lmao - what, literally locking people in their homes and destroying businesses to the tune of 25% unemployment rate (from fucking 3%) wasn't "too much taking at once?
People are cowards, is the simple answer. They all look towards someone else to save them - even most people here are saying "HELP US, TRUMP!" and not really doing anything themselves to help themselves.
Thank you for this link!
No shit. Too late.
Yup. The Internet is next since it’s a threat. Obama was whining about alternative news online not too long ago.
Information technology was converted by the Deep State from a tool into a weapon. But the weapon is a two-edged sword... There are limits to how much information you can control, i.e., distort, suppress or manufacture. The Internet remains a vast wilderness of possibilities despite the attempt to pave it over with a superhighway gatewayed by unaccountable agencies with secret and sinister agendas.
From the beginning, the Internet has been a dynamic, unstable combination of totalitarian and anarchic possibilities, with the former exploited by the forces of darkness, the latter by patriots, freedom-lovers, cranks, white-hat hackers, shitposters, a whole motley army of people who don't follow the DS script:
Uncompromised online news outlets like OAN
Citizen advocates, activists and lawfare warriors like Tom Fitton
Citizen journalism, such as readers will find on rogue platforms like ours with their subversive, memorable memes and their power to disseminate truth through the aggregation of quasi-Samizdat sources of knowledge like those listed above. as well as what community members themselves post and discuss.
The almost-inevitable cybersecurity vulnerabilities of the most secretive agencies, unpredictably exploited by lone operators with IT skills that equal or exceed those of the highest-level insiders (Snowden, Assange)
All these factors and more constitute a Resistance to the most determined attempts at totalitarian centralization that would allow the DS total and permanent control. The truth will set us free, and put them in jail.
For the most dangerous truth for the DS, the one they are most anxious to withhold from us, is simply this: That we are many, they are few. Isolated and divided, we're pawns. Once we realize our overwhelming numbers, the evil powers are exposed, and the hunters become the hunted.
With heroic leadership and a determined populace, it takes just one spark to ignite a history-changing recapture of power BY the people FOR the people from the enemies OF the people.
This election is that spark. The explosion is gradual and as yet not loud, but it is building, and before too long, the climactic V for Vendetta moment will come, the momentum will turn our way and we will be unstoppable. We will centralize for the purpose of DE-centralizing and liberating the power that Corruption has been consolidating for decade after decade. We the people will give back power to ourselves.
We are going to take back this fucking country. Deus vult!
This was a "yes and also yes" choice
I expected there to be a lot of fraud, but never on this level. Even if people voted 10:1 Trump:Biden, they would have still frauded their way to victory.
I'm not even a fan of Democracy to be honest (I'm somewhat AnCap), but if you disenfranchise 60% of the country with fraudulent elections, the government isn't legitimate even according to it's own justifications. We've invaded other countries to spread democracy, and blast other countries that don't run fair elections, and yet in our own country our government is unwilling to address blatant election fraud.
It makes me wonder how many of our "elected" officials weren't elected, if they are so protective of the fraud and unwilling to investigate.
also Rand Paul... but we're not going to do anything about it until next time and by then you'll have forgotten that we said we'll do something about it.
Bingo, this is how the socialists manage to stay in power in Europe, massive immigration from dysfunctional countries, radical Islamic and completely useless people, just like the socialists themselves.
South Americans are at least Christians and don't mind honest work, but vote cattle is still a pretty big issue. Even if the system is fixed right away and Trump wins, the left will still use vote cattle in 2024. They're already using it.
That's why our system was setup to prevent mob rule. Direct democracy always degenerates into autocracy. Voting your coalition to be king of the hill and everyone else forced to be indentured servants through law.
Are they though? Will they stay that way while here? We are throwing decent immigrants into a pretty toxic culture. Nobody asked for this social experiment.
Wow. Great way to run up those unemployment numbers again
Which ironically Hispanics seem to be going republican in droves because they hate socialism.
That's about the worst example you could've come up with. Republicans gave black folks the right to vote.
They are definitely still learning democrat but as democrats go further away from family values and more towards socialism they will lose the hispanic voters.
Just like the left intended it to
You're linking data from 8 years ago. Trump hit record numbers with Hispanics this year and without the fraud he may have even broke 50% with them. We'll never actually know.
Just kicking the can down the road to pick up later. These people are unbelievable.
If Paul thinks that Biden won't corrupt everything to a third world level including voting he's a fool. If Biden gets in that's the end of America.
Rand Paul is slightly wrong; we should address election fraud TODAY. Not "in the future" We're not enforcing the laws we already have, or upholding the constitution we already have.
Bullshit - how do we know foreign players were not involved? They sent data overseas to be calculated. Wake the fuck up Rand
He's saying we have evidence of fraud at home and that he hasn't seen evidence of international fraud (nor have I for that matter).
Ok but dont rule it out just say that... Machines shouldnt be connected to foreign servers or the internet at all
International fraud would have been done through the Frankfurt servers and nearly impossible to prove, there is proof of foreign interference tho, people from allover the world that was connected to those servers.
When the left is cheating, they'll use any means possible.
I’m with theses on this.
With respect, Mr. Navigator, do you have access to all the information the executive branch has been tasked with reviewing to make that determination?
Off the top of my pointy head, I can recall at least one referenced internet traffic report / affidavit confirming overseas data flow.
Then you follow the money ... the decades long corruption of the ‘cRATs nominees family members still under investigation. There are familial ties from spouses to multi-million dollar deals in Communist China - a nation where ONLY CCP members are allowed a seat at the table and, unlike the US, foreigners must cede 51 percent majority stake to the People’s (HA!) Republic of China.
Shoot, the ranking senator from California had a Chinese spy for a go-fer for years, the doofus stink bomb Swalwell had one for a campaign bundler...
Could go on, but the fact these Dominion machines and their ilk are also aimed at a GLOBAL market while also becoming the de facto standard in various crooked Democratic major swing state cities is, to this American, another in a long line of (Communist) RED FLAGS.
(The writer excuses himself with a private, face-palm)
I appreciate your response. I read it in its entirety and I'll respond to clarify what I mean.
No and that's exactly what I am saying. I'm not saying foreign interference didn't happen, only that I haven't seen evidence of it. I have seen evidence that 1) deceased people voted; 2) felons voted; 3) a large number of votes were counted in violation of state laws; 4) GOP representatives were treated unfairly in contested states. Those are all verifiable examples of domestic interference.
Everything else in your post is conjecture. We don't have evidence votes were changed overseas, though we do have votes were changed somehow. You can make an argument that foreign money influenced our election, but to what degree? That's difficult to measure and without concrete data impossible to argue. Suffice to say while foreign interference is certainly possible, I'm not going to go around telling people it happened until we can verify to what extent it actually did. This is in stark contrast to the examples of domestic fraud listed above.
As you may know, statements like this are essentially a not-so-subtle claim that you know better than me. Do you?
Ahem
Deep Al Gore sigh...
If the above lengthy interview is “conjecture” Mr. Bobulinski is “conjecturing” up a storm.
In it, he relates his sole motivation for going public was because he believed the US electorate had a right to know.
Sworn affidavit from an expert in re: Dominion machines
Axios report that the Chinese spy Fang Fang raised campaign funds for:
Eric Swalwell
This is just the more recent information that, if it pertained to “muh Russia” and were available to the special counsel we funded to the tune of $40 million to torment the Trump Administration, the barking heads on CNN would be blathering about it nonstop to this day.
And the China-‘cRAT ties go back even further... check out this 1996 conjecture that a Chinese national illegally contributed campaign funds to the Bill Clinton campaign.
Much of this information has been hiding in plain sight, We The People just haven’t been paying attention and our fellow Americans earning their livings by virtue of our First Amendment have been doing such a piss poor, they should be embarrassed and ashamed.
Clean up the swamp at home, or it will never be drained. Blaming this on foreigners isnt going to save stop it.
Its not an either or statement it is both. You are just like every other rino we are at war wake the fuck up
I am a RINO? lol I am not a Republican at all and never will be.
Figured typical cuck who opines yet cant get off their ass to do something and act all holy because they are an "independent". These are the cucks that dont vote in the primaries and that is why we end up with uniparty in the general
You didn't watch the whole clip of him. Just this small excerpt. He lambasted the idea of fixing it for "next time"
Why would you ever pick a fight with someone you know nothing about? (This is a rhetorical question)
Last I checked voting doesnt work anymore. They have bene rigging the primaries for years and are now rigging national elections.
A new revelation to all of us yes
“In the future”
Fuck right off with that low energy cuck shit. Like a guys wife banging another dude and the cuck goes on to say “I love you but in the future let me watch”
I’m tired of the CUCKERY
Yeah sick of this kicking the can. Screw these useless politicians. Taxation without representation.
Did Rand Paul just CUCK out ?
Rand just cucked out. He agrees that this "was the safest election ever in terms of foreign interference.'
Pathetic
We raided CIA servers in Frankfurt, not German or Chinese.
It’s very possible this was a completely domestic affair. [edit: The cover was undoubtedly provided by China and Soros]
But nonetheless, fuck China.
It's not remotely possible.
China bought a giant chunk of reddit to turn it into an anti trump rally.
China send hundreds of thousands of fake ballots and fake IDs to us this summer.
China bought a giant chunk of dominion to fraud this election.
Spez: China funded far left riots through BLM inc to terrorize citizens and intimidate judges and lawyers from pursuing justice.
If you dont understand China interfered you're either new here or disingenuous
Of course China interfered, they own the fucking Biden family.
My point is that Domestic interference is enough to sway the election.
But, in an effort to maintain a viable enemy, perhaps it is best to focus first and foremost on China. I stand corrected.
That’s not the context.
He said “this was safest election ever when it came to the Internet” (meaning the MSM sources) but that these same people, including Krebs, have nothing to say about the fraud happening on the ground, in the precincts, and in the back rooms of tabulating centers.
This sub drives me crazy of how many times it can’t listen and use critical thinking. It literally just wants to hang every single elected official... Reddit style.
How the hell does Rand make a definitive statement on the lack of foreign interference in this election? This whole fucking election was built on the China Virus. And Chinese machines and Chinese payoffs. Look at Governor Kemp. Look at laptop from hell.
Big Tech "dispooting" the POTUS is UNPRECEDENTED.
"No foreign interference" my ass!
Turns out Rand Paul is a globalist cuck. I never expected this! Or maybe he paid Dominion for some election insurance.
You didn't watch the whole clip of him. Just this small excerpt. He lambasted the idea of fixing it for "next time"
I now see the other post with the rest of his statement. My mistake!!
His nose scratch at the end signifies he's being disingenuous about the scope of the fraud (and feels uncomfortable about it).
He cucked out yesterday on newsmax, I posted the video and it got no traction.
You didn't watch the whole clip of him. Just this small excerpt. He lambasted the idea of fixing it for "next time"
To be fair, have this thread thinks he literally said “fraud happened and in this election was stolen”
And then thinks he said it’s the safest election ever... except they didn’t listen to what he said afterwards which is “it’s the safest election ever in terms of the Internet (social media and MSM narrative), but none of them have anything to say about dead / illegal / etc votes.
I guess literally every elected official ever is a cuck, unless it’s fits a stupid ass Cocaine Mitch meme for a day.
In the future??? How about the fucking present?
I like the petulant looks Krebs is giving him. String that motherfucker up!
Then he goes on to say the election was secure from foreign intervention. WAT
sarcasm
It wasn't.
100 bucks says you only watched this small excerpt and not his entire speech
You didn't watch the whole clip of him. Just this small excerpt. He lambasted the idea of fixing it for "next time"
Sauce on the full clip?
Yes, need the full clip if that is true.
You didn't watch the whole clip of him. Just this small excerpt. He lambasted the idea of fixing it for "next time"
"Well fix it in the future" Remember when the dems rigged the primaries for Hillary against Bernie but promised they wouldn't do it next time?
It's not stolen yet mother fucker! This is bullshit. You can't talk like this Paul!
do we have a a viable path now?
Other than EO, which I'm not sure Trump could enforce, I'm not seeing anything super likely.
Most certainly. The seven states that sent competing Electors is a Constitutional path. That enabled the fraud lawsuits to continue and they or one will end up in the SCOTUS most likely after the SHTF show on Jan. 6th. VP Pence can reject the democrap electors in the contested states on Jan 6th. That will then take the election to the House and Senate (I think) where each state will have one vote. There are more Republican controlled legislatures than there are democrap and Trump/Pence should win. Or if there is a big stink about that, then SCOTUS. That is the nutshell of it.
if I understand correctly, Pence can only count certified electors. if there is a dispute it goes to the House and Senate where we currently lose. Currently we do not seem to have the votes in the Senate. Both houses need to agree on states electors being bullshit to override. At that point, like you are saying then it goes to individual state votes. But only after House+Senate approval.
Two sets of electors seemingly only matters if a number of states get close enough where the results are very close to being or decertified completely.
I believe that is where the fraud lawsuits come into play. There are many seats in the House and Senate that are fraudulent as well. SCOTUS will/may be the last stop. So much confusion as to what can happen.
I ultimately believe that the Insurrection Act will be implemented. The military is the only way to really clean the swamp.
???
Wait, what? No foreign interference? Say it ain't so Rand.
This fraud cannot be accepted. This is like being back at school and someone just walks up to you and smacks you in the face. You have one chance to put him on his ass, or it will happen again and again for the remainder of your time there.
Well so much for Rand being a patriot.
FUCK YOU RAND PAUL!
???
He basically said there was no foreign interference.
YEP FUCK THAT! We are smart enough to know there is no "in the future" scenario if this is allowed to stand.
Kick the can as always
"In the future"
"The next election"
Congress has already surrendered. They will betray us.
Great subject matter , Rand
fine but what is he DOING?
So fraud happened and it needs to be fixed in the next election. Yeah sure.
He was being satirical. He also said that by next election everyone will have forgotten they said.
Oh didn’t sound like it was satirical.
did you watch the whole thing or just this one small excerpt?
Watched 2/3 of the whole hearing, which left me quite disheartened. No actions, only words. Nothing like when Ted Cruz questioned Zuckerberg.
Listened to it again. You might have a point there. I’ve been wrong many times today.
What was Krebs answer to this statement?
One thing I don’t like what I keep hearing today is “in the future” “make voting safer IN THE FUTURE”
Sounds like they’re gonna let CJB in and IN THE FUTURE they will take better action.
The FUTURE in today, the future was on Nov 3rd... we can’t get past this election while talking about future elections.
It has to be dealt with NOW, TODAY.
All GOP, with or without backbone, should be referring to the treatment of President Trump for the past 4 years as being a massive factor in this fraud. They gaslit 1/3rd of the nation into thinking he was Hitler while his children were selling influence on the side, all while ignoring their own malfeasance.
There is no "next time" this is fucking it...how do people not understand that? Trump won, it's being stolen, do something about it
Why is Rand Paul spouting this nonsense about what Krebs said? We know what he said. Everyone knows what he said. What he said was, (and I'm paraphrasing here), "We fucking stole the election from Donald Trump using Dominion software and gave it Joe "Chynaboy" Biden. The system worked exactly as planned. There were no technical problems." So, Rand, he wasn't talking about dead people voting. We already know that.
BAM JUST LIKE THAT
WHY aren't we fixing this right now?
If we know this was stolen,fix it instead of being weak.
You didn't watch the whole clip of him. Just this small excerpt. He lambasted the idea of fixing it for "next time"
I really didn't.
It's a busy day,I was watching more of the Amistad Projects live feed than a clip.
Indeed. Do something about it on the 6th, Senator.
No shit, Rand. If you have the balls, then do something about it unless China Mitch uses some Asian "intern" to "massage" them so you can "flip." White men are greedy and stupid. Keep falling for the oldest tactics, but effective, in the world- money and sex. Works every time.
There is no "in the future", revote or else.
Can we count on you to take the most important stand of your (and America's) life Dr Paul?
Or what about the Dominion fraud , Mr Paul? Sounds like he was being sleazy. Dominion and other voting machines are the key and don't let them try and make it only about dead people and illegals. The voting machines is how these scum on both sides stay in power.
Rand then says foreign intervention wasn’t a problem.
No. No you’re wrong Rand. Sorry.
And stop with the equivocation.
Should be
THE WLECTION WAS STOLEN, in many ways!
Tried to be stolen*
Like we're just going to accept the results and move on. These people are retarded.
To all freedom-loving Americans: Even if our government, president, vice president, etc. don't come through to stop this steal, WE THE PEOPLE STILL HAVE OPTIONS. We don't have to accept this. Our founding fathers did not. Our freedoms are TOO IMPORTANT TO ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN. OUR COUNTRY WILL BE GONE. ALWAYS REMEMBER: THE ANSWER TO 1984 IS 1776.
And most of our GOP are pussies. Look. I donated over 40K this last election. Small change versus dark money, true, BUT NEVER AGAIN! The Cornyn, McConnels, Bushes, and all the other POS GOPers need to go away. McConnel can become a minority “leader”. I will support with all my heart a Trump party. Fuck the non-Trump supporting Washington Swamp
Fuck off with that bullshit about: "we shouldn't let this happen again in the future".
The election was stolen so THERE WAS NO LEGITIMATE ELECTION!
Clown World is rough on the mind sometimes
No Senator Paul, the way to fix it is by enforcing the US Constitution NOW. Most of these new rules/regs in this past election were done illegally as they were done by Governors, Judges and elected officials other than State Legislatures. Only state legislatures can do so, otherwise it is a violation of the US Constitution. The Supreme Court has already said so. Use that ruling and straiten this crap out now. All those votes being voided would be on the people who did not follow the law of the land, the US Constitution. They’ll remember not to do that crap in the future.
In the future? Oh, fuck off ...
Paul loves the ccp money just as much an anyone else in DC.
Hol' up there, partner. "The only way it will be fixed is by, IN THE FUTURE, reinforcing the laws ... It was the most secure election based on security of the internet and technology."
Though he does go on to state his opinion that the election was stolen by local voter fraud -- dead people voting, non-citizens voting, people who broke absentee rules.