The EC allows only 2 hours for debate per challenge.
However, each elector can be challenged. Because each of the 7 contested states sent alternate electors, debate could outlast the election timeperiod such that no results from EC can be obtained.
At that point, the constitutional process begins, and according to it, Trump would win.
HOWEVER, turtle man McConnell is trying to squash this from happening -- he is trying to clamp down any Republican support in doing this.
We NEED to start organizing, and ramp up the pressure on McConnell. Start making the preps to visit his home and start protesting.
We also need to get all the Republicans on our side, and pressure the RINOs. If they would just do their job, Trump will be re-inaugerated. It's only up to their will power, which means it's up to US to leave them with no doubts in their mind about which box they'll find themselves in if they don't do their job!
The challenges could all be brought by only TWO members (one to sponsor, and one to do the talking) -- TWO members (e.g. Mo Brooks and Lion Cruz) can bring each of the challenges and do the 2 hours of talking per challenge.
Cruz has fillibustered before -- he can do it. But the more help the better. But it all rides on turning McConnell around, which means it rides on us.
Bingo
McConnell will only turn round if his involvement isn't enough to turn people against him if he does the right thing now, when it all comes out. He certainly won't if his involvement means jail. You can assume that it does because he's choosing not being reelected over the truth coming out.... Although maybe he's counting on voting machines getting him reelected
Potentially Rand too
I like the point when he said : in 2016 the dems objected 11 times to the electoral votes so they can be switched to Hillary. SO THIS TIME WE WILL OBJECT AND GET TRUMP ELECTED
KEEP WRITING AND STAYING ONTOP OF YOU SENATORS AND REPS AND TELL THEM TO OBJECT AS MANY TIMES AS THEY CAN
BINGO!
With all the alternate electors sent (about 100), we can EASILY make the debate last over 200 hours, which if it's not resolved by Jan 18, Trump wins.
Dear Representative/Senator,
As your constituent and fellow American, I urge you to support President Trump's legitimate electors. We all saw what happened on election night as President Trump had an insurmountable lead before these contested states stopped counting in the middle of the night. Despite overwhelming evidence on video and thousands of affidavits, the courts and state legislatures are unwilling to act. We cannot allow American's voices to be stolen by bad faith state participants and foreign interference. It's not just an election that was attacked, it was an attack on the foundation of our republic. America's sovereignty is at stake and the power given it by the people. We cannot stand as a nation under God without a legitimate election.
Sincerely, ___________
HOUSE https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
SENATE http://www.senate.gov/states/statesmap.htm
"can" is the key word... WILL THEY is what we need to know, we can't have it be an uncertainty
That's why we need to make them feel the heat. Call, email, and send letters now. These assholes rely on people ignoring them so they can be lazy and cowardly. Let them know we're watching EVERY move they make. Move to elect Trump or we will burn you
Can. But will anyone actually stand up for what is right? It feels like every time we put our trust in a republican to do their damn job, they cuck; either because they're corrupt and it suddenly comes out, or because they're RINO and prefer chasing the approval of the media, or they just don't like Trump, and they suddenly have concerns they've never brought up before.
Stop being a doomer, and start making your voice heard by contacting your senator
I'm from Florida. Trump won here. What reason would I have for calling?
TO MAKE SURE THE REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE DO THEIR JOB! DO YOU READ? MCCONNELL IS TRYING TO SHUT IT DOWN!
You of ALL people need to be contacting you senator and tell them to support challenging electors for Trump. Tell them to give McConnell the finger. Your senator actually has a chance of making a difference. For those who live in states corrupted by Dem senators, they won't listen.
Great Point!
Have not done my homework reading up on this. Does this require a senate vote or just one senator?
It need only require two members (one senate to speak, one house to sponsor). If you remember 2016, there were many challenges brought against Trump that Biden had to shut down.
The difference is we can have more legitimate challenges and we have Pence
I hope Pence stays loyal and true to the constitution.
This, exactly.
EMAIL/CALL YOUR REP AND DEMAND THEY TALK TO MITCH!!!
Yes!!!!
Mitch is asshoe
Dear Representative/Senator,
As your constituent and fellow American, I urge you to support President Trump's legitimate electors. We all saw what happened on election night as President Trump had an insurmountable lead before these contested states stopped counting in the middle of the night. Despite overwhelming evidence on video and thousands of affidavits, the courts and state legislatures are unwilling to act. We cannot allow American's voices to be stolen by bad faith state participants and foreign interference. It's not just an election that was attacked, it was an attack on the foundation of our republic. America's sovereignty is at stake and the power given it by the people. We cannot stand as a nation under God without a legitimate election.
Sincerely, ___________
HOUSE https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
SENATE http://www.senate.gov/states/statesmap.htm
That'll force NOTHING from his hand. He'll just be sent out of the seat.
I thought Rush distanced himself from Trump? Is he fighting for Trump again?
He never did. The fake news media reported lies that he did.
But Rush was only speaking pragmatically about the chances here, not actually distancing in support.
Congress is fucked. You're really going to trust THAT? You're going to suddenly out faith in THAT?
Insurrection act or go home.
Where is the word TRUST used?
MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND WHICH BOX THEY'RE IN IF THEY DON'T DO THEIR JOB!
Sticky!
Why can't the Republicans just not vote for Trump and vote for Biden? At this point there are ao many turncoat in the GOP how can a "constitutional process" help Trump? You mean you expect the house or the senate to vote party lines? I'm just not sure anymore.
I think Rand is up for it as well. Cocaine Mitch's plan is not going to work.
This sounds like we need another marathon filibuster from Rand Paul..
This is too complicated, just declare martial law and fucking take the country back.
^^^THIS^^^ is really another version of "trust the plan".
McConnell and Pelosi are united in this - neither have any desire to allow Trump to have his day or to restore the vote to the rightful winner.
I have a feeling Trump will move before this stage in the game is reached. Trump/Pence know they cannot count on Congressional GOP to back him up.
There is no TRUST in this plan, as it requires YOU to get off your ass, contact your senator and congressman, and to bring the HEAT to McConnell.
It won't be easy. But if we put enough pressure on McConnell, he WILL fold like the RINO he is.
Any specifics for this? The constitution doesn't seem to spell it out one way or another. So, IDK what would prevent Congress from continuing to count past Jan 20.
Then the Presidency of the Senate would devolve from Pence to the President Pro Temp (currently Chuck Grassley). The Speaker of the House (currently Pelosi) would be Sworn in as acting POTUS and presumably could then appoint a VP with advise and consent of House + Senate (See Amend 25)... Damn that'd be messy.
Specifically:
Seems like the State-by-State vote only occurs after the votes are counted... however long that might take.
President must be inaugurated by Jan 21. So it can't go past that.
If deadlock happens, the House would pick president and Senate Vice President. In worst case, if House gets gridlocked, Senate should not -- so Pence would become president.
The 20th Amendment only says that the term ends at noon on the 20th:
I don't see anything saying when the President must be sworn in by.
There would be no president if a new one isn't sworn in, this is when it would go to the vice president chosen by the senate...
It's a discussion of procedure that would require members of Congress to stage a revolutionary move to deny Biden/Obama the White House.
Does anyone here really think there are enough members of Congress who actually have the courage to do so?
HELL. NO.
They only need ONE member to do the talking -- ONE member (e.g. Lion Cruz) can bring each of the challenges and talk the 2 hours per challenge.
He's fillibustered before -- he can do it. But the more help the better.
You need a member of the House sponsored by a member of the Senate.
At this point I don't trust for even that low of participation to happen.
And I wouldn't look to Cruz to be the one to stand tall. Perhaps Rand.
Word is McConnell is working double-time behind the scenes to prevent any such challenge from happening.
Then we need to work harder to put up the pressure to McConnell. He is not a radical leftist nor a never Trumper. He just needs to be made to see the tea leaves.