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Drawdraw45 5 points ago +7 / -2

People are blinded by emotions and frustration. And I totally get it, we have been sold out for so long. However, this leads to blind irrational thinking.

To assume that Trump and the patriots behind him have not planned for this assumes an extremely insane degree of incompetence. People call anything regarding "the plan" a LARP. But it's much more improbable to assume that they have no plan lol.

In further support of this, we also have a lot of evidence and clues indicating there has always been a plan. At the very least we know that they absolutely knew the fraud would take place. So if you reason from that point, it is very hard to come up with a scenario in which they have not been planning for it this entire time.

Now whether or not the plan will work is another matter. I am confident that it will.

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Schroeder09 1 point ago +1 / -0

What could the plan possibly be other than the military? The judges, the legislatures, and everybody else is all in on it. If Trump does do this with the military he'll go to prison for forever somehow. Nobody talks about what kind of support he needs to do this. Where do the house and the Senate fall in a martial law state? These rhinos who pretend to support him would take their masks off in a matter of minutes if Trump declared martial law and asked militias to go out and bring these crooks forward for trial.

What portion of his 74 million voters don't even have the stomach for such events and would drop their support? What portion of the military would break off because they're led by a bunch of cuck global ist weak generals?

There's too many variables, there's too much risk, in Trump will never do it.

We need to organize in person now, start a new party, harness the maga energy with it, and you serve the Republican base that Trump has already done for us.

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Drawdraw45 1 point ago +1 / -0

What do you think the 2018 EO was for? Just for shits and giggles? Why is he moving loyalists into every single national defense related position? These are not the actions of someone on the way out. I think you are blinded by emotions here friend. You're not seeing the chess board clearly.

Trump is exhausting every single legal path possible. On one hand he's getting to the root of the corruption and allowing all of those complicit on the state and local levels to implicate themselves in the crime. On the other hand he's giving them as much of a chance as possible to stand up and do what it's right.

We have the DNI report coming up on the 18th, and with that and the results of the machines undergoing audits in multiple states, we will see if that is enough to get the house to step into line and contest the votes. We will know where they stand come Jan 6th.

I do agree about we the people being proactive and organizing though. It never hurts to have our own plan B ready to go. But at the same time we have to let this process play out. We stand to do more harm than good if we act to quick. Organize, prepare, yes. But we hold off from making any moves of desperation until then.

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Schroeder09 1 point ago +1 / -0

The EO was an extension to one that Obama made! He had an EO about foreign interference and hacking in any matter. Trump directed it at elections and specified to elections in this EO.

He should have used it in 2018. The same thing happened in those elections. Why didn't he? That would have been the time to use it! if they knew they couldn't get away with it they wouldn't even tried this time! this EO just lets him put sanctions on other countries and people helping other countries.

So okay, let's "activate" the EO as I see written in this forum so often. He'll freeze all of cuckerberg's assets. Then on January 20th Biden will unfreeze them. It does no good now. I believe he made this EO after the 2018 elections. it was too late then and it's too late now. Sure, maybe there's going to be more evidence even than what we've seen. What can it lead to though?! We're going to hear how they can't do anything because all the votes are certified and there's no mechanism to undo it.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE'S NO MECHANISM? Just say it! Just say that the election was fraudulent! Of course they have the power to do it. The legislatures could have already done this. All is the EO will do is give more evidence and the same people who have already had the chance to will have to decide if they will send alternate electors. They won't do it. Even if they do, the process to get the alternate slate of electors counted is widely disagreed upon. Rush Limbaugh read through the process today. It was not what I have seen written on this forum or anywhere else many times in the last 3 weeks. He read it off the hill. In their process the tie breaker for the contested state comes from the governor of the said contested state. Those crooks already certified all these! they made the fraudulent laws, circumvented the legislatures, and then certified already!

Now is The hill right in the governor is the tiebreaker or is it Mike pence? I don't know.The point is the EO can only bring fourth evidence. At which point it relies on people who have already had the chance to to take action. They've already shown they don't want to and won't.

The EO in and of itself is not an end game. it would trigger action by other people. People that should have already acted. They haven't! I've said this in a couple different ways now. I don't know if I'm wording it poorly or not. I keep saying this stuff in different threads and I keep getting the same types of responses and arguments that you are presenting here. Maybe it's me. I don't know.

Edit: Don't misunderstand my position. I am hoping and praying everyday throughout the day that what you are hoping for comes true. It should. This place is worth fighting for. if Trump used the national emergency broadcast Network and called for militia's help and Patriots to help round up these traders to bring forth for trial I'd be right there. It's just not going to happen and this stuff is crazy and we need to use this forum, break it down, and organize before biting gets in and takes the platform from us. Using the steam we still have left in us at this point is helpful too!

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Freebird [S] 0 points ago +3 / -3

Exactly. If there is no plan we deserve nothing, since it would mean we lost years ago. It makes sense to think they planned for this. Therefore, assuming there is a plan in play is not only the logical conclusion, but the only one that leads to victory.

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KamalasCamelHump 1 point ago +1 / -0

We lost decades ago, Trump was a fluke that they didn't expect to happen.

It won't happen again.