Trump KNEW what he was doing when he launched an insurgency candidacy as a republican.
It was a PARTY takeover, and with good reason: Even though it is NEXT TO impossible to take over one of the 2 parties, it is literally impossible to create a new one (and have it go anywhere). The apparatus at every level of government is set up to block that. Period. Whine if you want.
He won over the GOP rank and file, but only got about half of the party apparatus, leadership and elected officials. That is partly his own oversights and partly the fault of US, the base, for not insisting on MAGA GOP ONLY candidates in the primaries.
That error cost us dearly. The GOPe in leadership and party apparatus positions KILLED us - THEY were the ones who allowed the mail-in rule laws to pass (like Act 77 in PA), THEY are the ones who wont put up competing elector slates even though they have the power to and they know it.
So Trump AND US, his base, have been fucked over MORE by the GOPe than anyone else.
The right course of action is to COMPLETE THE PURGE OF THE GOPe at all levels of government, we have made SOME gains, just not enough to have been able to stop this bullshit.
Just tossing away the gains we have made and going "OK, new party!" is fucking retarded.
Scuttling the GOP for lion meme party at this exact moment would be an unforced tactical error of monumental proportions. Might as well meme about Jo Jorgensen. Smart move is to wait for the Democrat party to explode and tear each other to bits first, because if we flinch and divide they will immediately rally at a time where the conservative base we will be divided. Think about how a dog gets more aggressive when you turn your back on it. If the Democrat party does not collapse, purify and refine the GOP. If a complete strategic defeat is the end result of all this, burn the shit down by all means. But to divide now is just absolutely asinine. Lion party memes are the only reason I wish we had a downvote button.
THIS is the moment to unite (although every Georgian has to vote Jan 5th for loefller & purdue) and begin to ORGANIZE for the primary season for 2022 if Trump is not inaugurated Jan 21.
Dont bitch, dont cry, dont pout, and stop with the stupid 3rd party memes. Use that passion to ORGANIZE and actually PRIMARY any and all NON MAGA candidates at ALL levels, not just federal, but state and local.
Dont cry about how hard that will be. It is 1/100 of how hard it would be to stand up a new party.
You're being paranoid. We can all agree we support Trump 100%, but we are allowed to have our own opinions about certain things. If Trump says he can control the GOP I'm all for it but I'm also allowed to have my own opinion. I think if Creepy Joe gets his hands on the Presidency then the GOP has truly failed us and no way in hell should we let them stay on top.
Real talk we all support Trump here but unlike r/politics we don't have to conform 1000% on every subject.
It's like when Iran launched missiles at our bases and everyone here was saying we should bomb them to kingdom come but I disagreed then, and so did Trump.
NO, the GOPe has failed us, and it wouldnt be the first time - they have been backstabbing Trump for 5 years. Im not minimizing your opinion, Im just saying the path is to purge the scumbag GOPe, not take our collective ball and go home.
gop is full of shit like the democrats, but go ahead keep sucking republican dick. See how well that's worked out for the black population... I'll wait.
You can hate posts like this if you want but clearly playing along with the GOP is not going to keep working moving forward. They are not afraid of the voter base because they think they have you by the balls.
It's been a good run but Trump can totally make a new party if he wants. You and many others all say "Purge Purge Purge" but you have no idea how to do that.
Do you really think by continuing to play by the GOP's rules that they will suddenly turn over a new leaf and go full MAGA? No way. They are entrenched DEEP. The old swamp constantly gets replaced by new swamp. You will be playing musical chairs with RINOs and swamp creatures for decades with no progress to show for it.
Yeah okay let's wait 40+ years to slowly weed out the RINOs until we realize that most of the people we bring in are still loyal to the GOP and not to MAGA.
If the GOP is signing these guys' checks they will always be loyal to them. A new party would not be easy but it would be a massive blow to the Uniparty for their false opposition to suddenly be gone. And a new party would be free of the stigma of Evangelism brought on by the Bush dynasty as well.
Neither option is easy. But staying with the GOP when Trump has everything he needs from them doesn't make much sense. If Creepy Joe somehow gets his hands on the Presidency it will be all the proof I need to know that the GOP will not support us no matter how many "purges" we make.
Plus a totally new party would have real staying power in the MSM. Any marching orders about purges can easily be snuffed out.
disagree but at the end of the day this is a Trump forum, and he already did this calculation before running. He has done an incredibly good job at taking over as much of the GOP apparatus as he has, if he isnt inaugurated all it will mean is that he didnt QUITE take over enough, and the GOPe backstabbers got us - we WILL weed them out.
All it will take is ONE FUCKING PRIMRY SEASON to do it if everyone got off their asses and organized in very single district.
I hate posts like this.
Trump KNEW what he was doing when he launched an insurgency candidacy as a republican.
It was a PARTY takeover, and with good reason: Even though it is NEXT TO impossible to take over one of the 2 parties, it is literally impossible to create a new one (and have it go anywhere). The apparatus at every level of government is set up to block that. Period. Whine if you want.
He won over the GOP rank and file, but only got about half of the party apparatus, leadership and elected officials. That is partly his own oversights and partly the fault of US, the base, for not insisting on MAGA GOP ONLY candidates in the primaries.
That error cost us dearly. The GOPe in leadership and party apparatus positions KILLED us - THEY were the ones who allowed the mail-in rule laws to pass (like Act 77 in PA), THEY are the ones who wont put up competing elector slates even though they have the power to and they know it.
So Trump AND US, his base, have been fucked over MORE by the GOPe than anyone else.
The right course of action is to COMPLETE THE PURGE OF THE GOPe at all levels of government, we have made SOME gains, just not enough to have been able to stop this bullshit.
Just tossing away the gains we have made and going "OK, new party!" is fucking retarded.
Scuttling the GOP for lion meme party at this exact moment would be an unforced tactical error of monumental proportions. Might as well meme about Jo Jorgensen. Smart move is to wait for the Democrat party to explode and tear each other to bits first, because if we flinch and divide they will immediately rally at a time where the conservative base we will be divided. Think about how a dog gets more aggressive when you turn your back on it. If the Democrat party does not collapse, purify and refine the GOP. If a complete strategic defeat is the end result of all this, burn the shit down by all means. But to divide now is just absolutely asinine. Lion party memes are the only reason I wish we had a downvote button.
totally agree.
THIS is the moment to unite (although every Georgian has to vote Jan 5th for loefller & purdue) and begin to ORGANIZE for the primary season for 2022 if Trump is not inaugurated Jan 21.
Dont bitch, dont cry, dont pout, and stop with the stupid 3rd party memes. Use that passion to ORGANIZE and actually PRIMARY any and all NON MAGA candidates at ALL levels, not just federal, but state and local.
Dont cry about how hard that will be. It is 1/100 of how hard it would be to stand up a new party.
Until Trump leaves the Republican party, lion party memers are shills in my book.
That sounds great but with the Dominion and vote fraud mechanisms keep the GOPe counting the votes.
This is stupid. We need to punish and humiliate Mitch and the GOPe Senate. Not give them control.
please feel free to post that on the "I hate the GOPe" forum.
This is a TRUMP forum, in case you couldnt tell by the name, and he IS the GOP.
Because there are traitors in our midst doesnt give YOU the authority to decide to burn the castle down.
If and when Trump says to abandon the entire GOP party, we will.
Until then, its OUR party and the job is to fix it by purging cancerous lesions.
Stay on the plantation then. Let your gop masters give you scraps, if you ask nice they may let you take your mask off.
ThE GoP iS gOiNg To ChAnGe PrOmIsE pLs VoTe FoR uS
I actually think alot of these comments are intentional splinter job accounts. Not gonna work, fucko.
This is a TRUMP forum. Until TRUMP says to dump the GOP, we stick with the GOP, and just reform.
You're being paranoid. We can all agree we support Trump 100%, but we are allowed to have our own opinions about certain things. If Trump says he can control the GOP I'm all for it but I'm also allowed to have my own opinion. I think if Creepy Joe gets his hands on the Presidency then the GOP has truly failed us and no way in hell should we let them stay on top.
Real talk we all support Trump here but unlike r/politics we don't have to conform 1000% on every subject.
It's like when Iran launched missiles at our bases and everyone here was saying we should bomb them to kingdom come but I disagreed then, and so did Trump.
NO, the GOPe has failed us, and it wouldnt be the first time - they have been backstabbing Trump for 5 years. Im not minimizing your opinion, Im just saying the path is to purge the scumbag GOPe, not take our collective ball and go home.
check my history you cunt.
gop is full of shit like the democrats, but go ahead keep sucking republican dick. See how well that's worked out for the black population... I'll wait.
Hey numbnuts, this is a TRUMP forum. When HE says to abandon the GOP, we will.
Until then, shut your yap
You can hate posts like this if you want but clearly playing along with the GOP is not going to keep working moving forward. They are not afraid of the voter base because they think they have you by the balls.
It's been a good run but Trump can totally make a new party if he wants. You and many others all say "Purge Purge Purge" but you have no idea how to do that.
Do you really think by continuing to play by the GOP's rules that they will suddenly turn over a new leaf and go full MAGA? No way. They are entrenched DEEP. The old swamp constantly gets replaced by new swamp. You will be playing musical chairs with RINOs and swamp creatures for decades with no progress to show for it.
actually I do, its called primaries.
And it is THE way to "purge purge purge".
You actually think a complete new party would be EASIER?
Yeah okay let's wait 40+ years to slowly weed out the RINOs until we realize that most of the people we bring in are still loyal to the GOP and not to MAGA.
If the GOP is signing these guys' checks they will always be loyal to them. A new party would not be easy but it would be a massive blow to the Uniparty for their false opposition to suddenly be gone. And a new party would be free of the stigma of Evangelism brought on by the Bush dynasty as well.
Neither option is easy. But staying with the GOP when Trump has everything he needs from them doesn't make much sense. If Creepy Joe somehow gets his hands on the Presidency it will be all the proof I need to know that the GOP will not support us no matter how many "purges" we make.
Plus a totally new party would have real staying power in the MSM. Any marching orders about purges can easily be snuffed out.
disagree but at the end of the day this is a Trump forum, and he already did this calculation before running. He has done an incredibly good job at taking over as much of the GOP apparatus as he has, if he isnt inaugurated all it will mean is that he didnt QUITE take over enough, and the GOPe backstabbers got us - we WILL weed them out.
All it will take is ONE FUCKING PRIMRY SEASON to do it if everyone got off their asses and organized in very single district.