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The fact that the right and left are SO ready to go to war is a big piece of why he is being exceedingly careful about this.
He wants EVERY American to get it that will. Then he pulls the trigger. I believe he is somewhat OK with limited civil war that basically wipes out the communists who are ready to really fight. What he doesn't want is to execute too soon and have too many left leaning normies take to the streets.
When does China or other foreign adversaries get evolved? Possible that these foreign adversaries(Riggers)want the US to go into a civil war to weaken/distract our forces before they attack.
They wouldn't attack the US, but they could absolutely target our weaker allies throughout the world. There is a reason why President Trump said that those countries were absolutely reliant on US support. For instance, China has wanted to annex Taiwan for a long time now, but it hasn't been able to because the US has pledged to defend it in a war. With the US distracted by a civil war, they could easily just swoop in and conquer the island. Also, effectively every US ally in Eastern Europe besides Poland is so weak compared to Russia that it isn't even funny. Russia could easily take control of all the lands east of the old soviet border plus Fennoscandia. By the time a civil war would end, I wouldn't be surprised if at least half of current US allies around the world would be taken over by US enemies such as China, Russia and Iran.
They’ve already attacked the US. Our economy has been decimated. Our elections have been hacked. They are in bed with our Congress...sounds like attacks to me.
Well, by "attack" the US, I meant by conventional means of warfare. Seeing how they have an interest in harming the US, they absolutely do try other, sneakier methods to cause damage which they know that they can get away with.
They shouldn't be, but the actions of past presidents have made it so. For instance, Obama's sanctions caused massive damage to the Russian economy, and the Bushes/Clinton flagrantly violated their promise not to extend NATO beyond the borders of Germany by getting most of Eastern Europe into NATO. Because of that, NATO troops are now stationed dangerously close to St.Petersburg (in Estonia) - and Russia would certainly want at least a bit more buffer room between its core and NATO bases. It's also why they took Crimea after Maidan - they didn't want a US ally to control such a vital piece of territory just adjacent to core Russian territory.
The larger the the pool of participants, the larger and more disruptive the civil war.
How many folks are the hard-core communist left vs useful idiots to the useful idiots? My estimate, 10 percent of the left, or 5 percent of the population.
Now subtract the chickenshits, more than half of that, then subtract the most stupid on sheer ineffectiveness, then subtract the obese and those who cannot even figure out their own gender.
Then subtract the folks who are in it for free shit or other nonsensical demands like most Bernie bros and the NFAC dipshits. Are those really solid fighters? No.
We are talking a lot smaller number than most imagine; otherwise, the left wouldn't need to pay rioters or schlep them around the country to various hotspots.
TBH, the actual number of folks who will actually attend the revolution could be mopped up by Police with a more lax ROE.
Fuck it, lefties don't fight, no big loss there.it won't be a civil war, it'll be a slaughter. They won't pick up their guns, they'll pick up their phones. The only threat we face is the police.
We put them on notice that our nukes are aimed and ready to turn them into a wasteland if they try to take advantage of us while we clean house! Pull the Trigger on the house cleaning Mr President! Cross the Rubicon!
Dude, China has plenty of hydrogen bombs to go round maxing out at around 5 megatons in yield. If we try to glass them, they absolutely will return the favor. Seeing as I don't want to watch the world turn into a nuclear wasteland, I actually would rather let Xi take taiwan than respond in such a way.
Just give Twain a few small tactical nukes to fight back with. I don't think the Chinese would attack them then! kinda like what the Russians did during the Cuban missile crisis in 61-62.
The Navy and Air Force will probably by and large be for Biden. Army, Marines and National Guard are firmly with Trump, at least at the enlisted level. It will be a mess and a half. Very, very bloody.
Don't forget Biden didn't really get as many votes as you so there's more of us than them. Fix the fraud and we will win fair elections every time and weed out the corruption of the gop.
Absolutely, 100%. I'm not about to tell him that he NEEDS to do this, as so many people seem to be doing.
But I am about to tell him that if he NEEDS to do this, well, from what I've seen it's like 95% Justified. And the 5% is only there because I know very, very well that he's seen more than I have.
Yeah, maybe. Maybe it would just give them justification for whatever they want to do to us.
So if you want to go do something stupid and possibly counterproductive while we're still on a timetable that does not make it necessary, that would be on you. Me? I'm going to keep on top of goings on, and follow the steps laid out by our founders. If General Washington had shit his britches, ran out, and tried to lynch Governor Boutetort at the first implementation of the Stamp Act, he may have gotten his ass hanged for treason, or at the very least fucked the series of events that led to a successful revolution.
But you're not going to do anything other than LARP, anyway. Even if it does come down to it. Nobody serious about anything ever sat around screaming about how serious they were. They kept quiet until it was time to do shit, and then they did shit.
It's better to die on your feet than on your knees. When will it be "necessary" to act? Sometime after Joe has control of the military? After he says he's taking your guns? When the sheriff shows up to take them? After you handed them over?
As I'm pretty sure I just got done saying, when we've followed the steps laid out by our Founders. Has the fraud been viewed and dismissed by all the courts? Has the President instituted Martial Law and the Military refused to follow that order? Have all legal recourses failed us? If you're armchair general-ing from the future, and for you this is all true, then by all means, head out and do what needs to be done.
For those of us living in the PRESENT, and not waving our Internet Dicks around to look like a Badass, we are going to take steps 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and then 6. In that order. We're not gonna hear the President say "Three," and then yell "FORTY EIGHT!!!!" and try to lynch people in the streets.
And its people like you who will feel SUPER satisfied that they went out and "did something" based on reactionary emotion and got themselves killed or put in jail, and then a week or two later, when all constitutional processes have been followed, either the problem is remedied or we all take that final measure described by our founders.
You seem unable to see anything between "go do something right now," and "Do nothing at all ever."
That's fine. You do you, man. I'm going to follow the Constitution and the Declaration's ideals and measures.
We've been making and storing enough that if you show up at your local rally point and hop in the front line someone will have your back and a fresh mag when you need it. The 4th box nears but until then we're standing by.
If Trump does NOT execute Insurrection act or 2018EO, Biden will assume the throne.
Then in February, NoKo will Nuke Tokyo.
Chynah will take over all Japan tech, patents, industry.
Then Chynah will invade and take over Taiwan and Hong Kong.
Russia will completely annex Ukraine by force.
Syria will gas it's people.
Iran will launch multiple nukes on Israel and it will become a sea of glass.
NONE of this will be counered by Xiden. Not one iota.
The the Commie Chinese will invade the US from both Canada and Mexico.
Xiden will cause the US Military to Stand Down.
Why would they do that? They never have before. Or do you seriously believe that when the US government (I don't remember if it was Obama specifically) stated that the use of chemical weapons in Syria would cause the US to intervene, Assad, who was winning his war, decided to do the one thing that would cause him to lose (if Obama wasn't a giant pussy)?
Absolutely we are. I don’t care what anyone else thinks about it. I don’t care how extreme it gets. I want Trump to use his full power and authority to take back this country.
Step 1: Go door to door and recruit neighbors with guns
Step 2: Put someone with military experience in charge of the militia unit, if no one is available then have the unit vote for the leader, if more than one person has military experience choose the person of the highest rank. If all candidates are of equal rank than vote amongst those candidates who should lead.
Step 3: Meet up at (list of meet up places by state (he could send a commander to those locations to take charge of the units).
I wonder if his plan includes (after showing all the evidence of fraud) exposing all the corrupt house reps and senators on the 6th by letting vote for the democrats despite knowing all the evidence of fraud.
and then AFTER that, start the insurrection act and hold them all accountable at military tribunals.
"An Act authorizing the employment of the land and naval forces of the United States, in cases of insurrections Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That in all cases of insurrection, or obstruction to the laws, either of the United States, or of any individual state or territory, where it is lawful for the President of the United States to call forth the militia for the purpose of suppressing such insurrection, or of causing the laws to be duly executed, it shall be lawful for him to employ, for the same purposes, such part of the land or naval force of the United States, as shall be judged necessary, having first observed all the pre-requisites of the law in that respect"
With regards to the last sentence, does that mean there would've have to have been a SCOTUS case in that region? i.e is that why they rushed in the NM case.
It's EO 13848 and I'm paraphrasing but it allows for seizure of all assets and property for any entity foreign or domestic found to be aiding foreign actors with election interference. Think MSM and big tech.
The GREAT AMERICAN RESET:
By Joe Patriot, USA, North America
Patriots fought the First American revolution for many reasons including tyranny and taxation without representation. 244 years later, China weaponized and unleashed a virus not to kill, but to disguise tyranny to collapse the economy and western civilization to be replaced with one world governance tan by elitists.
The fact is that GOVERNMENT CANNOT FUNCTION without the consent of the citizens to participate. This may be revoked at anytime.
January 20, 2021 will be the Great American Reset. 80 plus million citizens will gather at every corrupt state and local legal body in 10 to 1 citizen/LEO ratio. LEO just needs common sense reason to stand down and our Military will not intervene.
We The People accept all resignations, continue interim governance and hold new elections. All done with people and pitch forks. Not one shot fired. No need for Martial law. We 1776 this shit. Independence Day 2.0.
He actually doesn’t, though. If this sub is a microcosm of the public do you honestly believe 70m people will do what you suggest? When not one has thus far?
Arguably, one has: Kyle. He's rotting in a cell while people whine online about the increasingly dire situation and promising they'll do something about it at some vague point in the future.
The fact that the right and left are SO ready to go to war is a big piece of why he is being exceedingly careful about this.
He wants EVERY American to get it that will. Then he pulls the trigger. I believe he is somewhat OK with limited civil war that basically wipes out the communists who are ready to really fight. What he doesn't want is to execute too soon and have too many left leaning normies take to the streets.
When does China or other foreign adversaries get evolved? Possible that these foreign adversaries(Riggers)want the US to go into a civil war to weaken/distract our forces before they attack.
Nobody will never outright attack mainland America. It would be death in an instant. They would need to be invited in.
we have had many many chinese generals welcomed here at our military bases on trips
I think it’s time we break off diplomatic relations with China.
Once the civil war ends, we need to gear up for Cold War II
Sure, by the swamp.
They wouldn't attack the US, but they could absolutely target our weaker allies throughout the world. There is a reason why President Trump said that those countries were absolutely reliant on US support. For instance, China has wanted to annex Taiwan for a long time now, but it hasn't been able to because the US has pledged to defend it in a war. With the US distracted by a civil war, they could easily just swoop in and conquer the island. Also, effectively every US ally in Eastern Europe besides Poland is so weak compared to Russia that it isn't even funny. Russia could easily take control of all the lands east of the old soviet border plus Fennoscandia. By the time a civil war would end, I wouldn't be surprised if at least half of current US allies around the world would be taken over by US enemies such as China, Russia and Iran.
They’ve already attacked the US. Our economy has been decimated. Our elections have been hacked. They are in bed with our Congress...sounds like attacks to me.
And the virus. At minimum they didht do shit to stop it and made it seem worse than it is.
Well, by "attack" the US, I meant by conventional means of warfare. Seeing how they have an interest in harming the US, they absolutely do try other, sneakier methods to cause damage which they know that they can get away with.
Russia is not an enemy of the US.
They are our opponent, but they don’t have to be.
They only team up with China to stand against us.
They shouldn't be, but the actions of past presidents have made it so. For instance, Obama's sanctions caused massive damage to the Russian economy, and the Bushes/Clinton flagrantly violated their promise not to extend NATO beyond the borders of Germany by getting most of Eastern Europe into NATO. Because of that, NATO troops are now stationed dangerously close to St.Petersburg (in Estonia) - and Russia would certainly want at least a bit more buffer room between its core and NATO bases. It's also why they took Crimea after Maidan - they didn't want a US ally to control such a vital piece of territory just adjacent to core Russian territory.
I bet that all of that could be fixed, though, aside from the NATO thing, unless NATO ends like it should. I believe Trump said something about that.
Put nukes on the island and give them to Taiwan. Tell them they are defensive only.
-Winnie the Pooh glances at Taiwan-
"DEFENSIVE USE!" -Taiwan
💥💥💥💥
And I am fine with that.
I don’t think Russia would do that much
What is going on with flights from Hong Kong to JFK twice a week? Check Cathay Pacific flight logs... what’s this all about?
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CPA846
The larger the the pool of participants, the larger and more disruptive the civil war.
How many folks are the hard-core communist left vs useful idiots to the useful idiots? My estimate, 10 percent of the left, or 5 percent of the population.
Now subtract the chickenshits, more than half of that, then subtract the most stupid on sheer ineffectiveness, then subtract the obese and those who cannot even figure out their own gender.
Then subtract the folks who are in it for free shit or other nonsensical demands like most Bernie bros and the NFAC dipshits. Are those really solid fighters? No.
We are talking a lot smaller number than most imagine; otherwise, the left wouldn't need to pay rioters or schlep them around the country to various hotspots.
TBH, the actual number of folks who will actually attend the revolution could be mopped up by Police with a more lax ROE.
The right aren't a bunch of pussies, they're also bot a bunch of murderers.
The vets in this country are overwhelmingly anticommunist, they're waiting for their 5 paragraph order.
Fuck it, lefties don't fight, no big loss there.it won't be a civil war, it'll be a slaughter. They won't pick up their guns, they'll pick up their phones. The only threat we face is the police.
And maybe Chinese trained Guerrillas
I’ve wondered about this. Also the police comment. The police were militarized for a reason, and they only protect the state.
We put them on notice that our nukes are aimed and ready to turn them into a wasteland if they try to take advantage of us while we clean house! Pull the Trigger on the house cleaning Mr President! Cross the Rubicon!
Dude, China has plenty of hydrogen bombs to go round maxing out at around 5 megatons in yield. If we try to glass them, they absolutely will return the favor. Seeing as I don't want to watch the world turn into a nuclear wasteland, I actually would rather let Xi take taiwan than respond in such a way.
Just give Twain a few small tactical nukes to fight back with. I don't think the Chinese would attack them then! kinda like what the Russians did during the Cuban missile crisis in 61-62.
No one is going to be rioting at NORAD. China might attack Taiwan, but they might attack Taiwan if Xi has a bad spring roll.
Who cares? If people were stupid enough to believe these lies to take to the streets in the first place, they don't deserve to live in the US!
I hope so. I am so done with the commies destroying our country brick by brick.
He only wants to eliminate the communists. He doesn’t want to murder dissenters who disagree with him politically.
Having Cali secede is a bad idea, that gives China a vassal state on North America.
The Military would support Trump. With the exception of some Generals, there is overwhelming support for GEOTUS.
The combat arms folks are Patriots.
Maybe a preemptive coup in California as a way to kick off the war.
The Navy and Air Force will probably by and large be for Biden. Army, Marines and National Guard are firmly with Trump, at least at the enlisted level. It will be a mess and a half. Very, very bloody.
Don't forget Biden didn't really get as many votes as you so there's more of us than them. Fix the fraud and we will win fair elections every time and weed out the corruption of the gop.
Absolutely, 100%. I'm not about to tell him that he NEEDS to do this, as so many people seem to be doing.
But I am about to tell him that if he NEEDS to do this, well, from what I've seen it's like 95% Justified. And the 5% is only there because I know very, very well that he's seen more than I have.
Yeah, maybe. Maybe it would just give them justification for whatever they want to do to us.
So if you want to go do something stupid and possibly counterproductive while we're still on a timetable that does not make it necessary, that would be on you. Me? I'm going to keep on top of goings on, and follow the steps laid out by our founders. If General Washington had shit his britches, ran out, and tried to lynch Governor Boutetort at the first implementation of the Stamp Act, he may have gotten his ass hanged for treason, or at the very least fucked the series of events that led to a successful revolution.
But you're not going to do anything other than LARP, anyway. Even if it does come down to it. Nobody serious about anything ever sat around screaming about how serious they were. They kept quiet until it was time to do shit, and then they did shit.
It's better to die on your feet than on your knees. When will it be "necessary" to act? Sometime after Joe has control of the military? After he says he's taking your guns? When the sheriff shows up to take them? After you handed them over?
When, exactly, are you going to do something?
As I'm pretty sure I just got done saying, when we've followed the steps laid out by our Founders. Has the fraud been viewed and dismissed by all the courts? Has the President instituted Martial Law and the Military refused to follow that order? Have all legal recourses failed us? If you're armchair general-ing from the future, and for you this is all true, then by all means, head out and do what needs to be done.
For those of us living in the PRESENT, and not waving our Internet Dicks around to look like a Badass, we are going to take steps 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and then 6. In that order. We're not gonna hear the President say "Three," and then yell "FORTY EIGHT!!!!" and try to lynch people in the streets.
It's people like you that will be sitting defenseless alone when the mob comes to your house and be really angry no one did anything to stop them.
And its people like you who will feel SUPER satisfied that they went out and "did something" based on reactionary emotion and got themselves killed or put in jail, and then a week or two later, when all constitutional processes have been followed, either the problem is remedied or we all take that final measure described by our founders.
You seem unable to see anything between "go do something right now," and "Do nothing at all ever."
That's fine. You do you, man. I'm going to follow the Constitution and the Declaration's ideals and measures.
Tom, right?
This pede gets it
Call on us and we will mobilize for you.
Preserving our liberty is a hill I will gladly die on.
It looks more and more like this is going to be the only way. The courts have failed us, and even our own GOP is failing us. FAFO
We need to clean house.
Just send ammo!
We've been making and storing enough that if you show up at your local rally point and hop in the front line someone will have your back and a fresh mag when you need it. The 4th box nears but until then we're standing by.
If Trump does NOT execute Insurrection act or 2018EO, Biden will assume the throne.
Then in February, NoKo will Nuke Tokyo.
Chynah will take over all Japan tech, patents, industry. Then Chynah will invade and take over Taiwan and Hong Kong. Russia will completely annex Ukraine by force. Syria will gas it's people. Iran will launch multiple nukes on Israel and it will become a sea of glass.
NONE of this will be counered by Xiden. Not one iota. The the Commie Chinese will invade the US from both Canada and Mexico. Xiden will cause the US Military to Stand Down.
FUCK BIDEN, HIS HO, HIS FAKE DOCTOR WIFE AND AOC!
Israel will be safe. They will likely sabotage Iran and then fill them with nukes. I think Russia already has what it wants from Ukraine(a port).
Of course they'll be safe. Why would the guy behind the curtain be in danger?
Why would they do that? They never have before. Or do you seriously believe that when the US government (I don't remember if it was Obama specifically) stated that the use of chemical weapons in Syria would cause the US to intervene, Assad, who was winning his war, decided to do the one thing that would cause him to lose (if Obama wasn't a giant pussy)?
I always think the japs and koreans who hate china wouldnt let china do shit like this knowing the US would back them.
AOC? I'll do my duty and fall on that particular grenade.
Absolutely we are. I don’t care what anyone else thinks about it. I don’t care how extreme it gets. I want Trump to use his full power and authority to take back this country.
He might have to give us a set of instructions
(Like how to form a local militia)
Things like
Step 1: Go door to door and recruit neighbors with guns
Step 2: Put someone with military experience in charge of the militia unit, if no one is available then have the unit vote for the leader, if more than one person has military experience choose the person of the highest rank. If all candidates are of equal rank than vote amongst those candidates who should lead.
Step 3: Meet up at (list of meet up places by state (he could send a commander to those locations to take charge of the units).
Number 2 is a no, a lot of high ranking military members are corrupt
I do believe declaration by GEOTUS would serve as a call to arms for his supporters.
He knows something we dont
If the Insurrection Act is invoked can I legally light a bag of shit on fire on my neighbors' steps?
There is no law anymore. The Supreme Court dissolved the Union.
I think that would be mandatory.
It's that poop again!
Can anyone wait till Christmas? You wanna bury the deep state? TRUSTY ON THE PLAN
Can I have military tribunals for Christmas? I think I've been good.
His executive order from 2018 expires Friday though.
Renewed last month
I wonder if his plan includes (after showing all the evidence of fraud) exposing all the corrupt house reps and senators on the 6th by letting vote for the democrats despite knowing all the evidence of fraud.
and then AFTER that, start the insurrection act and hold them all accountable at military tribunals.
I'm down. I'm ready. Bring it.
And this is why candidates give a concession speech to let their supporters know it is time to relax and accept the results...
And this is why Trump WILL NEVER CONCEDE... BECAUSE HE DIDNT LOSE!!!!
"An Act authorizing the employment of the land and naval forces of the United States, in cases of insurrections Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That in all cases of insurrection, or obstruction to the laws, either of the United States, or of any individual state or territory, where it is lawful for the President of the United States to call forth the militia for the purpose of suppressing such insurrection, or of causing the laws to be duly executed, it shall be lawful for him to employ, for the same purposes, such part of the land or naval force of the United States, as shall be judged necessary, having first observed all the pre-requisites of the law in that respect"
With regards to the last sentence, does that mean there would've have to have been a SCOTUS case in that region? i.e is that why they rushed in the NM case.
Once you call put the military none of that matters
Here is a petition to get into his ear and also get the msm talking about it
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/we-people-united-states-request-president-trump-invoke-insurrection-act-take-back-our-republic-wmilitary
Eo 13949 only puts sections on foreign nations... unless I'm wrong somewhere?
It's EO 13848 and I'm paraphrasing but it allows for seizure of all assets and property for any entity foreign or domestic found to be aiding foreign actors with election interference. Think MSM and big tech.
I just want to buy the tillable
Why are we talking about military intervention in the first place?
Not that I'm saying it's bad, but have there been any hints towards that?
I’d be behind him 100%!
The GREAT AMERICAN RESET: By Joe Patriot, USA, North America
Patriots fought the First American revolution for many reasons including tyranny and taxation without representation. 244 years later, China weaponized and unleashed a virus not to kill, but to disguise tyranny to collapse the economy and western civilization to be replaced with one world governance tan by elitists. The fact is that GOVERNMENT CANNOT FUNCTION without the consent of the citizens to participate. This may be revoked at anytime. January 20, 2021 will be the Great American Reset. 80 plus million citizens will gather at every corrupt state and local legal body in 10 to 1 citizen/LEO ratio. LEO just needs common sense reason to stand down and our Military will not intervene. We The People accept all resignations, continue interim governance and hold new elections. All done with people and pitch forks. Not one shot fired. No need for Martial law. We 1776 this shit. Independence Day 2.0.
President Trump you have the power under the constitution to call out the civilian Militia to defend you if necessary, and we are standing by sir!
Absolutely
Texas is damn ready.
Sticky please
Article 4, Section 4. U.S. Constitution.
Military arrest military. Cops arrest cops. Citizens arrest citizens. Free for all!
I have his back either way.
Eyes Open, No Fear!
100%
Preload your arms. I Guess.
In
Yep. Well over half the country.
He actually doesn’t, though. If this sub is a microcosm of the public do you honestly believe 70m people will do what you suggest? When not one has thus far?
Alternatives?
Arguably, one has: Kyle. He's rotting in a cell while people whine online about the increasingly dire situation and promising they'll do something about it at some vague point in the future.
He's out
Won't be long until he's back in with our kangaroo court system, and he spent long enough there.
There's no justification for failing to act at all in support of him beyond gofundmes. It proved to me the right still isn't serious.