We don't. All I can tell you is that there are good black people in America who just want nice families, jobs, and lives. A lot who are not like the BLM groups.
I'm fairly certain black people generally don't even vote. I'd bet like 80% of the votes in the major metros are fucking harvested. That "12%" is probably half the electorate of blacks.
I don't think Trump's strategy was the problem. The problem was the massive fraud and collusion (much of it perpetrated by white people). Personally, I was not turned off at all by Trump's attempts to reach out to black people. To me, Trump seems like he gives everyone a chance regardless of their race.
You got to dance with who brung you
Swing with who swung you
Don't be a fickle fool
Black voters did not support Trump in 2016. 10:1 they voted against him. Again in 2018. And again in 2020. Republicans in general, and Trump in particular, owe Black voters nothing.
The point of a democratic system is to build the smallest possible winning coalition. A 51% coalition is preferable to a 60% coalition because each member of the coalition gets a larger share of the spoils. Granting spoils to people who were not part of the coalition, and who are, in fact, your most active opposition, is a betrayal of the people who won you your office. Every day he spent pandering after Black votes was a day he was not working to benefit White, heartland America.
Pandering to blacks was the dumbest thing he could've done. The platinum plan bullshit sure lost him more votes than it gained.
The Platinum plan was a complete and total failure. It promised 500$ billion of spending for blacks, and only ended up gaining what, an extra half million black votes? That is an outrageously bad return on investment. That means 1$ million for every black vote they gained!
And like you said, that doesn't take into account all the votes that Trump lost from his white supporters, who felt alienated by these naked attempts at bribing votes. Why were blacks being rewarded for supporting Trump, while whites were not rewarded for doing the same?
In fairness though, the 'Platinum plan' crap was Kushners idea.
I wouldn't count welfare mommas who Dems essentially bribe with free money, nor fraudulent thugs and ballot canvassers. They're included in Biden's total and artificially drive that up.
Trump got 18% in Nevada, 21% in Minnesota (of all places) and about a quarter in Arkansas. There was one county in Arkansas in which Trump got 50% of the black vote.
The only states where Trump was under 12% were primarily swing states with massive cheating.
Nationwide it's still a very low number but Trump essentially doubled his black support from 2016.
Anyone think its weird how Trump made gains on 2016 in every ethnic group (when the GOP made gains on 2012 in every ethnic group) but still somehow lost?
Yes, you are correct. I've taught a lot of their kids -- very likeable, decent enough kids (average as it were). Now, for the non-PC part: the reason they are in my school system and the reason they stand half a chance is because their parents made the decision to move to a majority white area. Because I've seen the other side -- and those same very likeable, decent black kids get the shit knocked out of them, get fucking terrorized on a daily fucking basis, not by white, brown, red, yellow kids...but by other black kids who are the ones driving the crime stats. The SOP appears to be: you either go along and act the thug, or you become a target. That's a pretty hard fate to befall your average kid; most can't stand up to it.
And most people (all colors) don't like to talk about that, but from what I've seen, those are the facts on the ground. I wish it wasn't that way. It won't stop being that way until this very uncomfortable reality gets addressed; certainly is destined to profligate if conceded and pandered to...imho of course; feel free to argue.
Just look how they demasculinize Black men on TV and movies like they did to White men the last 20 years or so. Lefties want to keep them down while Trump was treating them like anyone else.
We don't. All I can tell you is that there are good black people in America who just want nice families, jobs, and lives. A lot who are not like the BLM groups.
Only 12%
I guess a few % more after you remove election fraud. -- not that it changes your basic point.
Stop The Steal infrastructure, wiki, chat.
I'm fairly certain black people generally don't even vote. I'd bet like 80% of the votes in the major metros are fucking harvested. That "12%" is probably half the electorate of blacks.
Black women vote our, community is matriarchal its seen as a postive but we see the outcome.
I don't think Trump's strategy was the problem. The problem was the massive fraud and collusion (much of it perpetrated by white people). Personally, I was not turned off at all by Trump's attempts to reach out to black people. To me, Trump seems like he gives everyone a chance regardless of their race.
Black voters did not support Trump in 2016. 10:1 they voted against him. Again in 2018. And again in 2020. Republicans in general, and Trump in particular, owe Black voters nothing.
The point of a democratic system is to build the smallest possible winning coalition. A 51% coalition is preferable to a 60% coalition because each member of the coalition gets a larger share of the spoils. Granting spoils to people who were not part of the coalition, and who are, in fact, your most active opposition, is a betrayal of the people who won you your office. Every day he spent pandering after Black votes was a day he was not working to benefit White, heartland America.
Pandering to blacks was the dumbest thing he could've done. The platinum plan bullshit sure lost him more votes than it gained
The Platinum plan was a complete and total failure. It promised 500$ billion of spending for blacks, and only ended up gaining what, an extra half million black votes? That is an outrageously bad return on investment. That means 1$ million for every black vote they gained!
And like you said, that doesn't take into account all the votes that Trump lost from his white supporters, who felt alienated by these naked attempts at bribing votes. Why were blacks being rewarded for supporting Trump, while whites were not rewarded for doing the same?
In fairness though, the 'Platinum plan' crap was Kushners idea.
Evidently not that much.
Will there be any candidate who ever advocated for white interests?
I wouldn't count welfare mommas who Dems essentially bribe with free money, nor fraudulent thugs and ballot canvassers. They're included in Biden's total and artificially drive that up.
Trump got 18% in Nevada, 21% in Minnesota (of all places) and about a quarter in Arkansas. There was one county in Arkansas in which Trump got 50% of the black vote.
The only states where Trump was under 12% were primarily swing states with massive cheating.
Nationwide it's still a very low number but Trump essentially doubled his black support from 2016.
Anyone think its weird how Trump made gains on 2016 in every ethnic group (when the GOP made gains on 2012 in every ethnic group) but still somehow lost?
Yes, you are correct. I've taught a lot of their kids -- very likeable, decent enough kids (average as it were). Now, for the non-PC part: the reason they are in my school system and the reason they stand half a chance is because their parents made the decision to move to a majority white area. Because I've seen the other side -- and those same very likeable, decent black kids get the shit knocked out of them, get fucking terrorized on a daily fucking basis, not by white, brown, red, yellow kids...but by other black kids who are the ones driving the crime stats. The SOP appears to be: you either go along and act the thug, or you become a target. That's a pretty hard fate to befall your average kid; most can't stand up to it.
And most people (all colors) don't like to talk about that, but from what I've seen, those are the facts on the ground. I wish it wasn't that way. It won't stop being that way until this very uncomfortable reality gets addressed; certainly is destined to profligate if conceded and pandered to...imho of course; feel free to argue.
Hard conversation to have, needs to happen anyway
Just look how they demasculinize Black men on TV and movies like they did to White men the last 20 years or so. Lefties want to keep them down while Trump was treating them like anyone else.
School choice terrifies the dims.
NOT ALL NOT ALL!
That's called 'collateral damage'.