I'm fairly certain black people generally don't even vote. I'd bet like 80% of the votes in the major metros are fucking harvested. That "12%" is probably half the electorate of blacks.
It was a pretty poorly run section of the campaign.
Blacks make up a very small voter block. Blacks that vote make up an even smaller voter block. Blacks that vote Republican are such a miniscule amount that they aren't even worth campaigning for. Like, at all.
Trump's platinum plan was designed, obviously, to bring in black votes with the promise of pretty much reparations. It just wasn't worth it. Blacks are a waste of time for politics.
I don't think Trump's strategy was the problem. The problem was the massive fraud and collusion (much of it perpetrated by white people). Personally, I was not turned off at all by Trump's attempts to reach out to black people. To me, Trump seems like he gives everyone a chance regardless of their race.
You got to dance with who brung you
Swing with who swung you
Don't be a fickle fool
Black voters did not support Trump in 2016. 10:1 they voted against him. Again in 2018. And again in 2020. Republicans in general, and Trump in particular, owe Black voters nothing.
The point of a democratic system is to build the smallest possible winning coalition. A 51% coalition is preferable to a 60% coalition because each member of the coalition gets a larger share of the spoils. Granting spoils to people who were not part of the coalition, and who are, in fact, your most active opposition, is a betrayal of the people who won you your office. Every day he spent pandering after Black votes was a day he was not working to benefit White, heartland America.
There are plenty of actual white people who are annoying leftists. Since I am female, I get to interact with a lot of suburban white women who are huge lefties (especially the "dog mom" and "cat mom" types)>
Pandering to blacks was the dumbest thing he could've done. The platinum plan bullshit sure lost him more votes than it gained.
The Platinum plan was a complete and total failure. It promised 500$ billion of spending for blacks, and only ended up gaining what, an extra half million black votes? That is an outrageously bad return on investment. That means 1$ million for every black vote they gained!
And like you said, that doesn't take into account all the votes that Trump lost from his white supporters, who felt alienated by these naked attempts at bribing votes. Why were blacks being rewarded for supporting Trump, while whites were not rewarded for doing the same?
In fairness though, the 'Platinum plan' crap was Kushners idea.
I was called s racist by some pedes here for opposing it and saying that it was a bad idea.Trump pandering to blacks 40% of the time is mostly ivanka and Kushner coercion.We need someone who can counter them in the White House.
Trump is not a liberal or centrist ;it was bad for him to campaign as one.I have never seen a right wing populist pander to people who don’t like him(Jews and Blacks).
I wouldn't count welfare mommas who Dems essentially bribe with free money, nor fraudulent thugs and ballot canvassers. They're included in Biden's total and artificially drive that up.
Trump got 18% in Nevada, 21% in Minnesota (of all places) and about a quarter in Arkansas. There was one county in Arkansas in which Trump got 50% of the black vote.
The only states where Trump was under 12% were primarily swing states with massive cheating.
Nationwide it's still a very low number but Trump essentially doubled his black support from 2016.
Anyone think its weird how Trump made gains on 2016 in every ethnic group (when the GOP made gains on 2012 in every ethnic group) but still somehow lost?
Only 12%
I guess a few % more after you remove election fraud. -- not that it changes your basic point.
Stop The Steal infrastructure, wiki, chat.
I'm fairly certain black people generally don't even vote. I'd bet like 80% of the votes in the major metros are fucking harvested. That "12%" is probably half the electorate of blacks.
I'd say by and large they were also the "foot soldiers" doing much of the dirty work.
It was a pretty poorly run section of the campaign.
Blacks make up a very small voter block. Blacks that vote make up an even smaller voter block. Blacks that vote Republican are such a miniscule amount that they aren't even worth campaigning for. Like, at all.
Trump's platinum plan was designed, obviously, to bring in black votes with the promise of pretty much reparations. It just wasn't worth it. Blacks are a waste of time for politics.
No.They stole lot of white voters details more than Blacks.Blacks are not enthusiastic voters but they are loyalist to democrats.
Black women vote our, community is matriarchal its seen as a postive but we see the outcome.
you mean communist?
I don't think Trump's strategy was the problem. The problem was the massive fraud and collusion (much of it perpetrated by white people). Personally, I was not turned off at all by Trump's attempts to reach out to black people. To me, Trump seems like he gives everyone a chance regardless of their race.
Black voters did not support Trump in 2016. 10:1 they voted against him. Again in 2018. And again in 2020. Republicans in general, and Trump in particular, owe Black voters nothing.
The point of a democratic system is to build the smallest possible winning coalition. A 51% coalition is preferable to a 60% coalition because each member of the coalition gets a larger share of the spoils. Granting spoils to people who were not part of the coalition, and who are, in fact, your most active opposition, is a betrayal of the people who won you your office. Every day he spent pandering after Black votes was a day he was not working to benefit White, heartland America.
Can you make a post on this? I like Trump and pedes here but why wasn’t there a pushback of the base against the pandering?
There are plenty of actual white people who are annoying leftists. Since I am female, I get to interact with a lot of suburban white women who are huge lefties (especially the "dog mom" and "cat mom" types)>
Pandering to blacks was the dumbest thing he could've done. The platinum plan bullshit sure lost him more votes than it gained
I personally know many white males who didnt vote for Trump because of the platinum plan
The Platinum plan was a complete and total failure. It promised 500$ billion of spending for blacks, and only ended up gaining what, an extra half million black votes? That is an outrageously bad return on investment. That means 1$ million for every black vote they gained!
And like you said, that doesn't take into account all the votes that Trump lost from his white supporters, who felt alienated by these naked attempts at bribing votes. Why were blacks being rewarded for supporting Trump, while whites were not rewarded for doing the same?
In fairness though, the 'Platinum plan' crap was Kushners idea.
I was called s racist by some pedes here for opposing it and saying that it was a bad idea.Trump pandering to blacks 40% of the time is mostly ivanka and Kushner coercion.We need someone who can counter them in the White House. Trump is not a liberal or centrist ;it was bad for him to campaign as one.I have never seen a right wing populist pander to people who don’t like him(Jews and Blacks).
Evidently not that much.
Will there be any candidate who ever advocated for white interests?
I wouldn't count welfare mommas who Dems essentially bribe with free money, nor fraudulent thugs and ballot canvassers. They're included in Biden's total and artificially drive that up.
Trump got 18% in Nevada, 21% in Minnesota (of all places) and about a quarter in Arkansas. There was one county in Arkansas in which Trump got 50% of the black vote.
The only states where Trump was under 12% were primarily swing states with massive cheating.
Nationwide it's still a very low number but Trump essentially doubled his black support from 2016.
Anyone think its weird how Trump made gains on 2016 in every ethnic group (when the GOP made gains on 2012 in every ethnic group) but still somehow lost?