It's painfully clear that no amount of evidence or court findings will work.
The Insurrection Act requires President Trump to exhaust all other options before hand.
The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it- . . . opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.
Until all legal options are exhausted, he cannot definitively state all courses of justice have been impeded.
Your username checks out as well! I believe you and I both will be quite satisfied in a decade or so. No matter how you cut it, faith in democracy has been dying since the 10s. In 2016 a WaPO study came out and said 40% of Americans have no faith in our Republic. Combine that with the blatant election rigging this year, and I will say well over half the country is done with the great American experiment.
If I had to use my crystal ball to read Trump's brain and figure out what he is doing; then I would say he is Toto pulling the curtain away from the Wizard that is democracy. He is exposing all our institutions for what they were: unrealistic idealism. Once we give up the idea of investing power into the people, we can return to the way of life that brought us to our zenith to begin with.
Thank you, Sir, and I agree with you, that, in approximately a decade, we will see our views become endorsed.
I became disenfranchised around 2010, when I was in undergraduate in college, as a sophomore. At the time, I was a right wing libertarian, I believed each individual should contribute their talents to the nation to the best of their ability, voluntarily... Then, as I grew older and witnessed how corrupt society was, I was appalled. I thought: people need positive role models, they need inspiration and vision, leadership that cared, qualities which were, and are, lacking in our modern nation for decades at least. Now, here I am, a nationalist, ten years later, with no faith in our decayed nation, even more so now with this communist theft.
100% agree with you last paragraph, modern society has catered to the lowest common denominator, while abhorring the exceptional. I for one cannot wait to see life return to the greatness that brought us to our golden age.
What if he can’t? What if he has intel that orders won’t be followed? What if military is compromised?
Then he wouldn't be too confident, nor would he have people accepting job offers in his administration. Especially in regards to the Pentagon. President Trump isn't worried, Secretary Pompeo isn't worried. General Flynn isn't worried. No one in Trump's inner circle is worried. They keep doubling down that they will win.
If it is a bluff, I sure do not want to play poker with them anytime soon.
It doesn't say legal options need to be totally exhausted, just seriously opposed, obstructed or impeded. I think it's very very clear with SCOTUS etc that this has and is happening. I think it's obvious to everyone that the legal process has become completely bankrupt.
Everyone here. As much as I wish that the country was as redpilled as this site (if not more), we are a minority. Your average American treats politics like the Superbowl. Two teams play, one team wins, and thats the last you think of it for four years... except maybe your taxes change. When it comes to political knowledge American watches MSNBC for a left wing take, Fox News for a right wing take, and CNN for just the facts. They may watch some BBC if they are really cultured and want an international perspective.
Democracy requires popular support to have a legitimate government. If your average American believes Trump to have pulled a coup, then this country will burn. I am not even talking about left-wingers here. When I am out and about offline and talk to some Trump supporters you would be amazed how many aren't aware how compromised our government is. They still think the GOP are our friends and that worst case scenario we can beat them in '24! I do not expect the IA to be called until around the 6th when all other options have been exhausted. Assuming of course we don't win on the 6th.
I agree on the optics, he needs to get as much of the people on his side as possible. I think he has the Swamp generals well in line. He has been cleaning house in the Pentagon over the last few weeks. Current head of Defense publicly called Obama a traitor and told the last director of the CIA to take the honorable way out by sucking on his pistol.
We are all "waxing and waning" strength (this is natural), and a lot of shills, doomers, and glowies are taking advantage of it.
This last month+ has been utterly exhausting (and not in the fun, udderly, way). I come here, more often than I should, for news, and strength. The last few days has been more doom and gloom than ever, and I think it's an attack on us.
Check my post history, you might find the recent one starting "Maybe I'm an optimistic fool" of interest.
Exactly. Trump can only take us so far. We need to have his back and put the pressure on our corrupt legislature.
I live in Arkansas, which you might think is a completely red state, but my representatives have done shit. Cotton and Boozeman are worthless go along to get alongs. Hutchinson supports the lockdowns and is a mask-trusting buffoon who has half the state closed up. Of course we could never even resolve the whole Arkanacide thing so the corrupt figure they can get away with anything here.
The point is we need to fix the problems in our own back yards and worry less about Trump, who has done pretty much infinitely more than any of us.
Yeah, I've been to both stop the steal rallies in DC and I've been calling reps. But lately his tweets have had me wondering if he's asking for something more?
I think he's talking to the RINOs and establishment R's that are in it more for themselves than for their constituents. Reminding them who they work for. Won't take too many R's in congress to rise to the occasion to help him and us across that Rubicon river.
my take... trump secured inauguration LONG before 11/3 (yea yea tRuSt tHe PlAn larper uh huh)
what's happening is a different fight. this isn't about the 2020 election. this is about finally draining the swamp, exposing corruption, and utterly annihilating the "american" deep state once and for all. the tweets are necessary because the "media" is complicit. the public needs to wake up and trump tweets are basically the only way the basic public hears the truth. whether they trust him or not right now doesn't matter, what matters is that the seed is planted.
his track record throughout his ENTIRE life is that of victory after victory. i understand the desire to SEE action. sometimes i get frustrated too. but trump has earned my faith. until he loses, i trust that he knows what he's doing and i’m ready to follow as needed.
My thoughts exactly. The alternative is that Trump was completely unprepared for elections rigged by dominion (which he has been talking about for a decade) and that he was surprised that the RINOS, who he has been living amongst for four years, would stand opposed to him. Both of which require Trump to have taken a massive head injury.
Thank you. This “less tweeting more action” garbage dismisses the blatant reality that actions are being taken behind closed doors and Trump doesn’t reveal his plan. It’s been rampant around these parts unfortunately. We’re a HIGH ENERGY forum.
That's the problem with social media: it's instant junk food to a junk food generation. I wonder how long it took for rural folks during Lincoln's Presidency to even know they were at war with other states?
I agree, but a valid question: What CAN we do to help, and have we/are we doing it? Calling RINO's every day? Even calling Dems, if they are our assholes?
I'd love to see 20 million people in the streets of DC January 4. Can we make that happen?
Tbh, He has been fighting against The Evil all alone last 4 years. What makes you say that he is depending on Republicans??!! Same Republicans that told us he had no chance of Winning The Republican Nomination??!! Get your head out of your arse my dude. President Trump is Lone Wolf in DC Swamp but he is gonna break them hard.! Mark My Words.
Organizing online is only going to get alphabet agencies knocking on your door. Do it in real life with connections you know, and establish coded language that only your group understands.
Donald Trump is correct they would burn this country to the ground. NOT US NO WAY WE JUST SCREAM AND POST STOP THE STEAL PLEASE HELP US WE ARE GETTING OUR ELECTIONS STOLEN. WTF UP PEOPLE IN A FEW DAYS WE ARE GONNA HAVE THE BIDENS AND CHINA RULING US BECAUSE WE WERE TO AFRAID OF LOSING A JOB OR A HOUSE FOR OUR FREEDOMS AND RIGHTS. SO WE DESERVE WHAT OUR NEW LORDS GIVE US. Our peaceful omg stop the steal rally's did nothing because we still gonna lose our homes and jobs and our freedoms and rights.. how much ubi and baloney stamps are they thinking of giving each person get use to living on that within a year from now.
I don’t think you’re reading too much into this. This is exactly my impression too. He is saying FIGHT. From France, the way I see it, and I mentioned it already, it doesn’t look like you’re fighting at all.
I agree. He is talking to us. He is telling us to rise up and do something. People have been waiting for his call to action for days. Well, there it is!
The men who fought the Battle of Athens, TN in 1946 are no more. SCOTUS have admitted themselves they’ll only listen to people who riot or show force. So much for the “pro-Trump” militias that the media showed off before the election.
Of course not. This is the fucking problem. The GOP are fucking cowards and are on the side of decency but one lift a fucking finger to do anything. Its why our country is being raped. Cowardice.
The problem is they occupy the positions of power where we could fight back peacefully. They are taking up space. That is what pisses me off. If something goes down and Americans die its on them. All means to try and peacefully resolve things are being removed.
THIS IS THE CALL FOR ACTION YOU’VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR. I think the message is loud and clear. Democrats will NEVER put up with a stolen election. But we are. We don’t fight enough and don’t act enough. We believe he is God himself and that he will defeat them all with him final and grand chess move. We wait for it and do nothing or not much. Had it been Democrats, they would have been out in the street, rioting, trying every trick in the book to get their way. That barricade in Georgia? They’d have climbed over it, despite their scrawny legs in skinny jeans under thunderous applause. I interpret this as a call for action. Rise up and fight for your right. DJT can’t do everything himself. If his strength is We the people, then we need to show the world that we’re here.
He is right about that. You gotta give the demonrats credit they know how to stick together and go down for the cause. That shows commitment like no other they are willing to all burn together if need be.
The Insurrection Act requires President Trump to exhaust all other options before hand.
The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it- . . . opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.
Until all legal options are exhausted, he cannot definitively state all courses of justice have been impeded.
You have a great username. I would be all for a stable government, I'm so tired of our nation being dishonored, a permanent solution is needed.
I applaud your optimism, but people being people ... As Reagan said, we can't pass it on to our children. Each generation must fight for it anew.
100 percent agreement there
I would lay my life down if it meant it were not in vain, to defend the liberty and prosperity of this nation.
Me too brother
> TheEnclave
> Wanting an Authoritarian America
Your username checks out as well! I believe you and I both will be quite satisfied in a decade or so. No matter how you cut it, faith in democracy has been dying since the 10s. In 2016 a WaPO study came out and said 40% of Americans have no faith in our Republic. Combine that with the blatant election rigging this year, and I will say well over half the country is done with the great American experiment.
If I had to use my crystal ball to read Trump's brain and figure out what he is doing; then I would say he is Toto pulling the curtain away from the Wizard that is democracy. He is exposing all our institutions for what they were: unrealistic idealism. Once we give up the idea of investing power into the people, we can return to the way of life that brought us to our zenith to begin with.
Thank you, Sir, and I agree with you, that, in approximately a decade, we will see our views become endorsed.
I became disenfranchised around 2010, when I was in undergraduate in college, as a sophomore. At the time, I was a right wing libertarian, I believed each individual should contribute their talents to the nation to the best of their ability, voluntarily... Then, as I grew older and witnessed how corrupt society was, I was appalled. I thought: people need positive role models, they need inspiration and vision, leadership that cared, qualities which were, and are, lacking in our modern nation for decades at least. Now, here I am, a nationalist, ten years later, with no faith in our decayed nation, even more so now with this communist theft.
100% agree with you last paragraph, modern society has catered to the lowest common denominator, while abhorring the exceptional. I for one cannot wait to see life return to the greatness that brought us to our golden age.
Then he wouldn't be too confident, nor would he have people accepting job offers in his administration. Especially in regards to the Pentagon. President Trump isn't worried, Secretary Pompeo isn't worried. General Flynn isn't worried. No one in Trump's inner circle is worried. They keep doubling down that they will win.
If it is a bluff, I sure do not want to play poker with them anytime soon.
Then God help us all.
It doesn't say legal options need to be totally exhausted, just seriously opposed, obstructed or impeded. I think it's very very clear with SCOTUS etc that this has and is happening. I think it's obvious to everyone that the legal process has become completely bankrupt.
Now is the hour.
Everyone here. As much as I wish that the country was as redpilled as this site (if not more), we are a minority. Your average American treats politics like the Superbowl. Two teams play, one team wins, and thats the last you think of it for four years... except maybe your taxes change. When it comes to political knowledge American watches MSNBC for a left wing take, Fox News for a right wing take, and CNN for just the facts. They may watch some BBC if they are really cultured and want an international perspective.
Democracy requires popular support to have a legitimate government. If your average American believes Trump to have pulled a coup, then this country will burn. I am not even talking about left-wingers here. When I am out and about offline and talk to some Trump supporters you would be amazed how many aren't aware how compromised our government is. They still think the GOP are our friends and that worst case scenario we can beat them in '24! I do not expect the IA to be called until around the 6th when all other options have been exhausted. Assuming of course we don't win on the 6th.
If your assessment is correct, why hasn't Trump enacted it then?
I agree on the optics, he needs to get as much of the people on his side as possible. I think he has the Swamp generals well in line. He has been cleaning house in the Pentagon over the last few weeks. Current head of Defense publicly called Obama a traitor and told the last director of the CIA to take the honorable way out by sucking on his pistol.
This right here. Trump is literally going to exhaust everything appropriately before invoking Insurrection Act.
He's likely getting it ready behind the scenes but tweeting acting like he's helpless or in the same old position
We are all "waxing and waning" strength (this is natural), and a lot of shills, doomers, and glowies are taking advantage of it.
This last month+ has been utterly exhausting (and not in the fun, udderly, way). I come here, more often than I should, for news, and strength. The last few days has been more doom and gloom than ever, and I think it's an attack on us.
Check my post history, you might find the recent one starting "Maybe I'm an optimistic fool" of interest.
Keep heart, Justice.
I do the same thing! I’d be in deep despair without this land of refuge. I come here to keep my head above water, and to find real news!
he can use militia as well, civilian militias can be called up and deployed
there are 10s of millions able bodied citizens at least out of the 70mil-80mil voters who are armed to be authorized by the president as his militia
I think he’s asking for us to stand UP with him
We need Trump to give us the order to start the war.
He needs to decide between being a Gracchus and being a Caesar
The order would come as delcaration of martial law (probably by EAS), not a Trump tweet.
Exactly. Trump can only take us so far. We need to have his back and put the pressure on our corrupt legislature.
I live in Arkansas, which you might think is a completely red state, but my representatives have done shit. Cotton and Boozeman are worthless go along to get alongs. Hutchinson supports the lockdowns and is a mask-trusting buffoon who has half the state closed up. Of course we could never even resolve the whole Arkanacide thing so the corrupt figure they can get away with anything here.
The point is we need to fix the problems in our own back yards and worry less about Trump, who has done pretty much infinitely more than any of us.
right? I was sort of waiting for his sign but it seems like he's waiting for our sign....?
Yeah, I've been to both stop the steal rallies in DC and I've been calling reps. But lately his tweets have had me wondering if he's asking for something more?
I think he's talking to the RINOs and establishment R's that are in it more for themselves than for their constituents. Reminding them who they work for. Won't take too many R's in congress to rise to the occasion to help him and us across that Rubicon river.
I think he'd love to see 2 (or 20) million PEACEFUL supporters marching in DC.
I think he'd he'd hate to see "let's get started now; it's Civil War."
Yeah, we have to get more organized. This is the probably (hopefully) the most important cross roads of our lives as a nation.
trump can do more than one thing at once
my take... trump secured inauguration LONG before 11/3 (yea yea tRuSt tHe PlAn larper uh huh)
what's happening is a different fight. this isn't about the 2020 election. this is about finally draining the swamp, exposing corruption, and utterly annihilating the "american" deep state once and for all. the tweets are necessary because the "media" is complicit. the public needs to wake up and trump tweets are basically the only way the basic public hears the truth. whether they trust him or not right now doesn't matter, what matters is that the seed is planted.
his track record throughout his ENTIRE life is that of victory after victory. i understand the desire to SEE action. sometimes i get frustrated too. but trump has earned my faith. until he loses, i trust that he knows what he's doing and i’m ready to follow as needed.
My thoughts exactly. The alternative is that Trump was completely unprepared for elections rigged by dominion (which he has been talking about for a decade) and that he was surprised that the RINOS, who he has been living amongst for four years, would stand opposed to him. Both of which require Trump to have taken a massive head injury.
This. He'd literally have to have gotten amnesia the day before the election to have been blindsided by any of this.
Thank you. This “less tweeting more action” garbage dismisses the blatant reality that actions are being taken behind closed doors and Trump doesn’t reveal his plan. It’s been rampant around these parts unfortunately. We’re a HIGH ENERGY forum.
That's the problem with social media: it's instant junk food to a junk food generation. I wonder how long it took for rural folks during Lincoln's Presidency to even know they were at war with other states?
I agree, but a valid question: What CAN we do to help, and have we/are we doing it? Calling RINO's every day? Even calling Dems, if they are our assholes?
I'd love to see 20 million people in the streets of DC January 4. Can we make that happen?
Kate, you are very probably not wrong
Yeah the first we will hear about it is arrests being made.
Tbh, He has been fighting against The Evil all alone last 4 years. What makes you say that he is depending on Republicans??!! Same Republicans that told us he had no chance of Winning The Republican Nomination??!! Get your head out of your arse my dude. President Trump is Lone Wolf in DC Swamp but he is gonna break them hard.! Mark My Words.
He’s 100% Correct too!
He’s telling us to man up but NOBODY here wants to go to the capitals armed to the gills and demand these cucks to do their jobs!
I'm ready motherfucker. Mods stop sticking faggot frog memes and lets start posting meetup groups/areas to get together. 1776 Time.
Organizing online is only going to get alphabet agencies knocking on your door. Do it in real life with connections you know, and establish coded language that only your group understands.
No he’s not, nor should he....
But he IS saying
Republicans are soft, and I’m the only one doing the fighting!
Donald Trump is correct they would burn this country to the ground. NOT US NO WAY WE JUST SCREAM AND POST STOP THE STEAL PLEASE HELP US WE ARE GETTING OUR ELECTIONS STOLEN. WTF UP PEOPLE IN A FEW DAYS WE ARE GONNA HAVE THE BIDENS AND CHINA RULING US BECAUSE WE WERE TO AFRAID OF LOSING A JOB OR A HOUSE FOR OUR FREEDOMS AND RIGHTS. SO WE DESERVE WHAT OUR NEW LORDS GIVE US. Our peaceful omg stop the steal rally's did nothing because we still gonna lose our homes and jobs and our freedoms and rights.. how much ubi and baloney stamps are they thinking of giving each person get use to living on that within a year from now.
Correct.
Joe Biden is a lying sack of shit. Fair election my ass.
Shit, they have already been doing it for the past four years after the failed to rig the election enough for Hillary.
I had the same impression.
I don’t think you’re reading too much into this. This is exactly my impression too. He is saying FIGHT. From France, the way I see it, and I mentioned it already, it doesn’t look like you’re fighting at all.
He has been saying this for 4 years but no one listens because they would rather sit around and larp about Trump being batman with superpowers.
I agree. He is talking to us. He is telling us to rise up and do something. People have been waiting for his call to action for days. Well, there it is!
The men who fought the Battle of Athens, TN in 1946 are no more. SCOTUS have admitted themselves they’ll only listen to people who riot or show force. So much for the “pro-Trump” militias that the media showed off before the election.
He's talking to the GOP swamp. He's biding time with cheap talk before the strike.
For the love of God, bring the fucking hammer. You have an army of pedes ready for the "directive" . Lets gooooo
Of course not. This is the fucking problem. The GOP are fucking cowards and are on the side of decency but one lift a fucking finger to do anything. Its why our country is being raped. Cowardice.
They aren't cowards, they are complicit. They are on the same team.
The problem is they occupy the positions of power where we could fight back peacefully. They are taking up space. That is what pisses me off. If something goes down and Americans die its on them. All means to try and peacefully resolve things are being removed.
THIS IS THE CALL FOR ACTION YOU’VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR. I think the message is loud and clear. Democrats will NEVER put up with a stolen election. But we are. We don’t fight enough and don’t act enough. We believe he is God himself and that he will defeat them all with him final and grand chess move. We wait for it and do nothing or not much. Had it been Democrats, they would have been out in the street, rioting, trying every trick in the book to get their way. That barricade in Georgia? They’d have climbed over it, despite their scrawny legs in skinny jeans under thunderous applause. I interpret this as a call for action. Rise up and fight for your right. DJT can’t do everything himself. If his strength is We the people, then we need to show the world that we’re here.
And yet the GOP are fine with fake elections that they lose.
I'm in California, I know our GOP are gutless cowards.
Democrats would have burned down 15 cities by now
And the Founding Fathers would be stacking bodies by now.
Ain't that the truth?!
I'm honestly surprised this wasn't Dispooted because election fraud is "pure fiction"
Is this not a call for resistance?
The entire Free World is calling on US Patriots to save us... again...
Will your life be a footmark or a chapter?
God speed to you all.
It's true, my gawd the screeching would never end about "OMFGBBQ!1! Electionsfraud!1!" if roles were reversed.
What does this imply? It's kinda weird argument to make.
Any loyal patriot wouldn't tolerate a known stolen election, period!
Scotus would be all over this
I wouldn't even want it if we stole it.
Meanwhile, he’s definitely talking about registered Republicans who went to one rally in DC when it was 65 and sunny and then went home.
He is right about that. You gotta give the demonrats credit they know how to stick together and go down for the cause. That shows commitment like no other they are willing to all burn together if need be.
Only one way to find out.
Right as always.
Mitch is a little bitch! Fuck the GOP
Fuck no theyd burn the motherfucker down and still might!
How about an election rigged by both parties with the help of the CIA, FBI and the foreign enemies that want too see America at its knees.
RINOs work for the Dems. The Dems are the link to the Chinese Money!
You should not put up with it either Mr president
Which is?
Neither would Patriots - we want a free and fair election, and for our votes to be heard!
What I just don't understand is why leftists will only join hands when it benefits them lol
It doesn't matter, They would call trump's legit win a steal. 🙄
And nor should they....
and neither should we!!
They sort of did in 2000 and 2004, though.