lmao you do know that the most important tests premeds/med students/doctors take like the mcat and step are video recorded and basically impossible to cheat on, right? Even at my med school, all of our exams are recorded in person or on our laptop cameras. Med schools take cheating very seriously- if you’re ever caught as a premed or med student, you can essentially kiss your chances of being a doctor goodbye.
As a former premed, I’ll tell you that the people that I did see cheat were too fucking stupid to get into med school in the first place. If you honestly think most doctors are breezing their way through weekly exams, step, and rotations, you probably never got into med school or know anyone who has.
As someone who went both to dental and med school (long fucked up story) I can tell you that cheating is rampant. It’s not cheating like having written answers on your fingernail. There are social and political cliques that passing around old exams within the inner circles.
Most professors recycle their exams year to year. It’s shameful.
Upperclassmen will pass down old answers. Professors will privately give out answers test answers to help select students (particularly crying pretty girls.)
The reason why board exams causes med/dental students to panic is bc you CANT cheat on them. Old board exam questions are hard to come by and not very helpful bc vast majority of those exams are written fresh each year by a committee.
Exams written by a single professor are often (almost always in my experience) set up FOR cheating. Playing the political game. To be doctors have patients lives in their hands. It’s sick
It sounds like you went to shit school then, no offense. My med school actively works to make sure that old test questions can't get circulated. All of our exams are online, monitored, and we get 1 piece of scrap paper that's discarded afterward. Our professors would absolutely get hanged if people found out they were favoring certain students and giving them answers, especially if there's any sort of sexual connotations. There's legit no incentive to cheat because we're P/F. Like I don't think we have students that are SO dumb that they need to cheat to get a fucking 70%.
I've certainly heard of at least one med student who was circulating exams at an overseas school and got expelled. But international med schools are often dogshit anyways with no real standards for their admitted students (literally anyone with a pulse can get in). I'm talking exclusively about US MD schools because I don't know what sort of clown fiestas go on in DO or international schools.
lmao what? You do know that NBME practice exams are old board questions right? Those are pretty standard materials to pass onto underclassmen. No shit there are fresh questions every year, that's how every standardized exam works.
I STRONGLY support P/F system for this exact reason. Unfortunately my dental school was graded. And it was chaos bc there was double jeopardy with some remediate courses having a highest potential grade of a ‘C.’ Which is below the 2.5 cumulative needed to graduate. So if you fail the first time and get a D or an E and then pass the remediation with a perfect score you are punished with a second grade failing pulling your gpa further below the graduation cutoff.
That’s how those motherfucking crooks got me. On a gpa technicality. I passed every single graded course but I was below 0.02 below the minimum cumulative so I was mathematically unable to get it higher. Final semester. They stole the $400k from me and gave me the boot.
I said med school for brevity but it was podiatry school. I think it may have been the last one in the country still graded. But it was last minute snd my only option. And it was the same bullshit as dental school all over again with the secret old exams passed around. Which of course I wasn’t privy to.
And yes I love how old board exams are available to study from. I crushed every standardized board exam I took on first try bc of the fairness of them.
I’m glad the allopathic schools aren’t fucked like the dental schools.
lmao you do know that the most important tests premeds/med students/doctors take like the mcat and step are video recorded and basically impossible to cheat on, right? Even at my med school, all of our exams are recorded in person or on our laptop cameras. Med schools take cheating very seriously- if you’re ever caught as a premed or med student, you can essentially kiss your chances of being a doctor goodbye.
As a former premed, I’ll tell you that the people that I did see cheat were too fucking stupid to get into med school in the first place. If you honestly think most doctors are breezing their way through weekly exams, step, and rotations, you probably never got into med school or know anyone who has.
As someone who went both to dental and med school (long fucked up story) I can tell you that cheating is rampant. It’s not cheating like having written answers on your fingernail. There are social and political cliques that passing around old exams within the inner circles.
Most professors recycle their exams year to year. It’s shameful.
Upperclassmen will pass down old answers. Professors will privately give out answers test answers to help select students (particularly crying pretty girls.)
The reason why board exams causes med/dental students to panic is bc you CANT cheat on them. Old board exam questions are hard to come by and not very helpful bc vast majority of those exams are written fresh each year by a committee.
Exams written by a single professor are often (almost always in my experience) set up FOR cheating. Playing the political game. To be doctors have patients lives in their hands. It’s sick
It sounds like you went to shit school then, no offense. My med school actively works to make sure that old test questions can't get circulated. All of our exams are online, monitored, and we get 1 piece of scrap paper that's discarded afterward. Our professors would absolutely get hanged if people found out they were favoring certain students and giving them answers, especially if there's any sort of sexual connotations. There's legit no incentive to cheat because we're P/F. Like I don't think we have students that are SO dumb that they need to cheat to get a fucking 70%.
I've certainly heard of at least one med student who was circulating exams at an overseas school and got expelled. But international med schools are often dogshit anyways with no real standards for their admitted students (literally anyone with a pulse can get in). I'm talking exclusively about US MD schools because I don't know what sort of clown fiestas go on in DO or international schools.
lmao what? You do know that NBME practice exams are old board questions right? Those are pretty standard materials to pass onto underclassmen. No shit there are fresh questions every year, that's how every standardized exam works.
I thought I responded already.
I STRONGLY support P/F system for this exact reason. Unfortunately my dental school was graded. And it was chaos bc there was double jeopardy with some remediate courses having a highest potential grade of a ‘C.’ Which is below the 2.5 cumulative needed to graduate. So if you fail the first time and get a D or an E and then pass the remediation with a perfect score you are punished with a second grade failing pulling your gpa further below the graduation cutoff.
That’s how those motherfucking crooks got me. On a gpa technicality. I passed every single graded course but I was below 0.02 below the minimum cumulative so I was mathematically unable to get it higher. Final semester. They stole the $400k from me and gave me the boot.
I said med school for brevity but it was podiatry school. I think it may have been the last one in the country still graded. But it was last minute snd my only option. And it was the same bullshit as dental school all over again with the secret old exams passed around. Which of course I wasn’t privy to.
And yes I love how old board exams are available to study from. I crushed every standardized board exam I took on first try bc of the fairness of them.
I’m glad the allopathic schools aren’t fucked like the dental schools.