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posted ago by Arizona_pede ago by Arizona_pede +13 / -0

Let's say the Supreme Court doesn't help us one bit. Let's say the electors get certified. Let's even say Pence bails on us and chooses the rigged electors. Let's say not a single politician in our government has our back, besides Trump and a few of his close allies. Let's say Trump doesn't even use the EO, doesn't declare Martial Law or the Insurrection Act.

Let's say we run out of all options and lose all hope. Is there anyone on this site that is willing to give an idea of what a patriot would do in that scenario, in a literal sense? Not just "it's go time!" We know it would be go time. The question is, go where? What do pedes who aren't of a military background do? What if some (many) pedes don't know their neighbors, don't know safe places, don't know extremely like minded individuals?

Because there is going to be a large portion of on the fence voters who will do nothing. The military, police, and courts will not have our back, if the left and Biden step foot in the White House. At this point there isn't anyone a pede can trust, besides the people on here, and it's the internet so who the hell even knows if that's true.

Could someone give maybe a play by play, and set of actions one could take?

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Arizona_pede [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly what I was looking for, thank you!

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AmericanMonarchist 1 point ago +2 / -1

The question is, go where? What do pedes who aren't of a military background do? What if some (many) pedes don't know their neighbors, don't know safe places, don't know extremely like minded individuals?

Its game over. We become yet another example that proves Plato was right about democracy leading to tyranny. Our society is too atomized. Instead of being bonded by a single culture, we are surrounded by alien people who we cannot trust. Any resistance to the Biden admin would be along the lines of Wako or Ruby Ridge. Patriots setting up sanctuary estates, and then the feds reigning hell upon them. Without a Washington to lead us, this is the fate of disorganized resistance.

Thankfully it won't come to that because it is completely out of character of Trump to not go down swinging.

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kudupoo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ah, but Plato was referring to "a democracy". Not applicable here.

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AmericanMonarchist 1 point ago +1 / -0

Republics are a subset of democracy (They are synonymous with representative democracy) as the core of government is power in the populace. Demos is Greek for people, Kratia means rule and government. PeopleRule/DemoCracy.

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kudupoo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Now do the with Republic and you'll have what we are.

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AmericanMonarchist 1 point ago +1 / -0

Republic stems from the Latin Res Publica meaning: The People's Affair which puts it equivalent with the Greek "The People's Rule".

All Republics are Democracies, not all Democracies are Republics. There are different subsets like Pure Democracy, Landholding Democracy, Representative Democracy (us), but they fall under the same umbrella. Its like under the umbrella of monarchy you have: Elective, Feudal, and Absolutist. Each quite very distinct from the last, but each a monarchy.

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kudupoo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Correct, if you were to draw the family tree of our Representative Republic, the linguistic entemoloylgy would spring from the root, Democracy.

The fact the "Republic" checks and balances the "Democracy" is what makes it come out from under the umbrella and overshadow as a superior manifestation of the root from which it sprung.

Everyone here knows that a pure Democracy is mob rule. This is a perfect example of why the Electoral College is necessary in all cases. Even the corrupt one we face today. That gives another piece of our Representative Republic the opportunity to get right, the true will of the people vice that of a small, corrupt mob.

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AmericanMonarchist 1 point ago +1 / -0

That gives another piece of our Representative Republic the opportunity to get right, the true will of the people vice that of a small, corrupt mob.

I am glad you are confident, I wish I had that level of idealistic optimism over cynicism. I look at our world today and I see every single democracy on the spectrum fail in the exact same way as Plato described, including our Republic which was founded specifically to counter Plato's vision. At a certain point I felt like a communist who said "This time it will work for sure!" So I gave up on the will of the people being anything more than crowdism.

Maybe you are right though. Maybe after we throw out the swamp, we won't make the same mistakes in our democracy that have destroyed all previous incarnations. I hope so, I always say I am a reluctant monarchist and I would prefer democracy as idealized over monarchy any day of the week.

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kudupoo 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am but a simple man walking on this earth by God's Grace. When I cut through the noise and look at this situation, this is what I see.

We do not have the luxury of Democracy or any variant thereof. Nov 3, 2020 proved that. Our vote....no, OUR VOICE has been extinguished. That means we live in pure tyranny.

The only way to get back that which has been stolen (our birthright), is to take it back. Force is preferable as it will serve multiple purposes.

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Arizona_pede [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks for answering the question and not being a bitchy uninformative downer