I am a 100% Trump supporter. you are just to dumb to read what I wrote. you are thinking "Trump Winning" when I am writing about putting crooks in jail. you are just too stubborn and thick headed to understand what I wrote.
you are the mentally disabled. if trump already won, there would be no corruption charges against anyone. he has to lose for corruption charges. got it dumb fuck?
So many words wasted, how many Trees could have been saved by not having to store this drivel in a database somewhere and all the electricity wasted and the internet bandwidth wasted in having to reply to this junk😅
Since you decided to get offended on the Internet and Christmas is coming up I’ll give you a present.
~ Critical Thinking ... POTUS ~
If succession takes place GEOTUS no longer benefits from the protection of his office and would be immediately pursued in civil and criminal proceedings for a litany of charges.
Sitting POTUS is able to grant pardons for any “Offense Against the United States” at any time (arguably for any reason, arguably to themselves). Ergo, if Biden did assume that office he (arguably) could immediately pardon himself.
As the primary proof of election fraud is in regards to the federal election and treason Biden as sitting POTUS would also be able to pardon anyone involved as well for federal offenses including foreign actors. State DAs would likely not pursue charges. We’d be dealing with a Democratic Congress, Executive, and a Cucked SCOTUS at that point. Seems like a bad secret plan.
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“But acasper, what about impeachment?”
If Congress decided to impeach... Oh wait that’s right, we wouldn’t have a significant enough majority in either legislative body to impeach a seated POTUS.
GEOTUS would no longer be commander in chief. Any soldier or public official that continued to follow orders from GEOTUS would be guilty of treason and would be prosecuted in a federal court or... you guessed it... a military tribunal.
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Now, you may say “Hey acasper, why are you swinging your logic-dick around so aggressively?” and I would respond with “Richard likes the fresh air and I’m not done. Sit down and shut up faggot.”
~ Critical Thinking - Full Refutation ~
“If Trump loses the election on purpose, he has more legal standing for fraud and corruption. That means he can go after everyone, the judges, the media, the candidates, etc.”
Does not need legal standing for military tribunals.
Most governors involved have already violated federal law.
Most governors involved have already violated their state constitution and statutes.
Judges have significant immunities (not in the constitution but still) and likely could not be successfully pursued through civil or criminal courts for dismissing cases. Planning treason is treason. Military Tribunals.
Conspiring to overthrow the government is treason, you don’t have to follow through for it to be treason. Might be argued that it’s sedition but either way. Military Tribunals.
Candidates are candidates until they’re seated in office. Biden as POTUS gets pardon power and immunity to prosecution except by the senate (and civil/criminal if impeached and convicted).
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“If he were to have won the court cases before the electoral college vote, then how do you prove the governors are guilty? He would have accused them of trying to rig the election, and they all would have said "no we were going to send the right electors but you won so everything is cool!". if he loses, they send the wrong electors, and now he can go after them in a military tribunal for treason. if he wins all these court cases, he can't go after anyone, because what fraud is there is he wins?“
By documenting the crimes they committed and prosecuting them. The crime is not sending electors (it’s the justification for many no standing dismissals but no standing doesn’t mean someone doesn’t get prosecuted for a crime). Ideally law enforcement would be doing this, it’s their job after all, but they’re not for whatever reason.
Military Tribunals are very misunderstood but you can get a primer on how they’ve been used historically here (https://www.loc.gov/law/help/usconlaw/tribunals.php). In short, the military gets to do whatever they want because they have the guns and if you’re at the point of a Military Tribunal the public is generally on the side of the people with guns who are protecting them. They play at a normal judicial proceeding with defendant having representation and a prosecutor but normally it’s a foregone conclusion who is going to die.
If he wins all the court cases he remains POTUS and pursues treason charges along with anything else that has been discovered then adds charges as more crimes are uncovered.
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“don't be surprised if joe biden tries to enter the white house. there is a huge difference between coup and coup attempt. wait until everything is said and done before you attack people like Mitch McConnel, John Roberts, etc. Trump has the evidence but they release it little by little for political effect.
if joe biden never claims to be the winner, which he probably has not done yet, then he will just say "I thought I really won". you have to let it go through the whole process. you have to wait until Biden declares himself to be president, and then they release the evidence he cheated. then you have a case. otherwise, he will just say he wasn't seriously planning to declare himself the winner.”
Joe Biden ran for the office so of course he’s going to try and assume the office if he believes he can succeed in doing so. That of course entails occupying the White House among other things.
Coup and Coup Attempt are technically different. For the purposes of prosecution they’re not different. A prosecutor would be seeking the death penalty or bare minimum life.
Focusing on McConnell and Roberts is a waste of time, but only because they are choosing inaction. Focus should remain on litigation, preparation, federation, and memes for morale and info warfare. At least for the time being. Don’t organize on a public forum by the way. There should not be a national group. Decentralization with a shared code. This is the way.
No. Biden benefited from a massive fraud that the DNC and foreign actors perpetrated and he could say “I had no idea” but that’s not a defense. Biden assuming office does not change the burden of proof and we have the proof already.
Saying that Biden didn’t intend to “... declare he’s the winner...” Think. About. That. Sentence. Biden just ran for President and the media plus the currently certified electors say that he won. “Oh sorry, it was a big joke. Got em!” isn’t applicable here.
“again. DO NOT BE SURPRISED IF BIDEN TAKES OFFICE AND THEN GETS ARRESTED
DON'T ASSUME SOME FORM OF MARTIAL LAW DOES NOT ALREADY EXIST.
Trump probably filed some sort of secret order granting agencies to use all means to uncover evidence starting on or before Nov 3rd, which may include spying on americans.
don't be surprised if trump loses on jan 6th. again, he has to do this to prove fraud.”
More accurate statement would be “Do not be surprised if Joe Biden takes office and is immediately assassinated.”
Martial Law is declared by definition as it indicates a transition from civilian government controlling governmental functions to the military doing so. I guess it could have taken place secretly and selectively for relevant agencies. If that were the case I’d expect that those agencies (bureaus maybe? ;D) would have been gathering evidence for Military Tribunals.
See previous points above in regards to why waiting for Biden to assume office is retarded.
FISA Courts could have authorized this but we know they’re dirty as fuck with zero oversight (Martial Law on FISA Courts? kek that would be hilarious).
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“In summary... You Are Retarded. That is all. I’ll put Richard away now. Move along.”
what I wrote is clear and easy to understand and if you did not understand that then that makes you the retard. what you wrote is just a personal attack founded on your lack of ability to understand something.
You don't need to lose to show the massive cheating that went on. They all ready cheated. They've all ready committed their many crimes, both during this election and before. No need to lose the election to get them on all the crimes they've all ready done.
I read the whole post and I don't see that being the plan. How could it be?
If Trump loses the election, and Biden takes office, what recourse would Trump have to "go after them with a military tribunal"? He's no longer President and will most likely, immediately be attacked with charges and lawsuits that the House (and Senate) have been waiting to take him down with.
I'm not shouting you down, I'm just not getting your point.
Trump losing the election means he loses all his power. He'll probably get kicked off Twitter, and will lose what support he still has with the last stalwart GOP Senators who are standing with him now. How is he then supposed to go after those that stole the election? Is he going to sue as a former President?
And are you seriously claiming McConnel and Roberts are somehow actually working an angle to help Trump?
Speaking of Roberts, what courts will hear this Trump post election, post inauguration legal case? SCOTUS is refusing cases now while he's President. Do you think they'll be more cooperative after he's out?
This is the ultimate 4D chess "what if" I've heard.
Sorry to hear you were met with offensive responses, but what you're proposing sounds very improbable.
Some more questions about this theory.
Mainly, WHO would be "going after" the fraudsters AFTER Biden enters office? Who has the power to challenge and reverse what is being collectively done by the most powerful institutions in the world (Deep State, DC, Social Media, CCP etc)?
HOW would the justice seekers be taken seriously when the whole MSM, including conservative outlets, are deathly allergic to "conspiracy theories" and STILL claim there's no evidence.
WHY would Trump expose himself to the legal slings and arrows that are assured when/if he's out of office? Powerful, rich people want him in jail.
I haven't replied to anything on thedonald in about two weeks of reading but this......this. All the way to Biden taking the office of the president, then it's all turned around and everyone is arrested? As much as I don't want no Biden, I am afraid it better be fixed before Biden is sworn in, people couldn't accept a flip back after that, we ain't all as smart as the guy who started this.
My only issue with this line of thinking is that once Biden is sworn in, he cannot be arrested. You cannot indict a sitting president. Impeachment is the only recourse and democrats hold the house. Gina have to hit January 19th.
Although like others have said it’ll be better to just overturn the election and convict on circumstantial evidence already collected.
This is a clearer explanation of your theory. I actually see the point of "you can't charge someone for a crime until they've committed it". But will Trump have the power to "charge" after Biden is in office?
"Treason is the only crime defined in the U.S. Constitution. According to Article III, Section 3:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court ."
has biden confessed in an open court? no. that means that he cannot be charged with treason. same with everyone else. you need to wait until the whole process is completed before you attack people like Mitch when you dont know what is really going on.
"The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization."
for ACTS PERFORMED, not for ACTS NOT PERFORMED. that means you have to wait until the entire process is completed so that FUTURE ACTS OF CRIME CAN BE PERFORMED.
you are the fucking retard. how do you put a corrupt supreme court justice in jail if trump wins end of story?
you are SO DUMB.
trump winning means catching virtually none of the corruption in government.
No — you and your theory are nuts
you are wrong and you know nothing about how law works. people cannot be found guilty of something that never happened
I am a 100% Trump supporter. you are just to dumb to read what I wrote. you are thinking "Trump Winning" when I am writing about putting crooks in jail. you are just too stubborn and thick headed to understand what I wrote.
you are the mentally disabled. if trump already won, there would be no corruption charges against anyone. he has to lose for corruption charges. got it dumb fuck?
Sounds like a leftist LARP to accept a Biden presidency
sounds like you have a comprehension problem and did not understand what I clearly wrote
So many words wasted, how many Trees could have been saved by not having to store this drivel in a database somewhere and all the electricity wasted and the internet bandwidth wasted in having to reply to this junk😅
you have comprehension problems. you cannot convict people of crimes they did not commit.
Since you decided to get offended on the Internet and Christmas is coming up I’ll give you a present.
~ Critical Thinking ... POTUS ~
If succession takes place GEOTUS no longer benefits from the protection of his office and would be immediately pursued in civil and criminal proceedings for a litany of charges.
...
Sitting POTUS is able to grant pardons for any “Offense Against the United States” at any time (arguably for any reason, arguably to themselves). Ergo, if Biden did assume that office he (arguably) could immediately pardon himself.
As the primary proof of election fraud is in regards to the federal election and treason Biden as sitting POTUS would also be able to pardon anyone involved as well for federal offenses including foreign actors. State DAs would likely not pursue charges. We’d be dealing with a Democratic Congress, Executive, and a Cucked SCOTUS at that point. Seems like a bad secret plan.
...
“But acasper, what about impeachment?”
If Congress decided to impeach... Oh wait that’s right, we wouldn’t have a significant enough majority in either legislative body to impeach a seated POTUS.
...
“But acasper, what about the military tribunals?”
GEOTUS would no longer be commander in chief. Any soldier or public official that continued to follow orders from GEOTUS would be guilty of treason and would be prosecuted in a federal court or... you guessed it... a military tribunal.
...
Now, you may say “Hey acasper, why are you swinging your logic-dick around so aggressively?” and I would respond with “Richard likes the fresh air and I’m not done. Sit down and shut up faggot.”
~ Critical Thinking - Full Refutation ~
“If Trump loses the election on purpose, he has more legal standing for fraud and corruption. That means he can go after everyone, the judges, the media, the candidates, etc.”
...
“If he were to have won the court cases before the electoral college vote, then how do you prove the governors are guilty? He would have accused them of trying to rig the election, and they all would have said "no we were going to send the right electors but you won so everything is cool!". if he loses, they send the wrong electors, and now he can go after them in a military tribunal for treason. if he wins all these court cases, he can't go after anyone, because what fraud is there is he wins?“
...
“don't be surprised if joe biden tries to enter the white house. there is a huge difference between coup and coup attempt. wait until everything is said and done before you attack people like Mitch McConnel, John Roberts, etc. Trump has the evidence but they release it little by little for political effect. if joe biden never claims to be the winner, which he probably has not done yet, then he will just say "I thought I really won". you have to let it go through the whole process. you have to wait until Biden declares himself to be president, and then they release the evidence he cheated. then you have a case. otherwise, he will just say he wasn't seriously planning to declare himself the winner.”
“again. DO NOT BE SURPRISED IF BIDEN TAKES OFFICE AND THEN GETS ARRESTED DON'T ASSUME SOME FORM OF MARTIAL LAW DOES NOT ALREADY EXIST. Trump probably filed some sort of secret order granting agencies to use all means to uncover evidence starting on or before Nov 3rd, which may include spying on americans. don't be surprised if trump loses on jan 6th. again, he has to do this to prove fraud.”
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“In summary... You Are Retarded. That is all. I’ll put Richard away now. Move along.”
That was a nuclear blast of a breakdown. You put my suspicions about OP's theory into clear, logical points. Thank you.
“We’ve got a retard”
what I wrote is clear and easy to understand and if you did not understand that then that makes you the retard. what you wrote is just a personal attack founded on your lack of ability to understand something.
“He must lose the election to win the election”
Yes, that is simply irrefutable.
Retard
how about backing it up with something other than an ad homonym
you are going to learn a lesson in legal proceedings.
get yourself an education in law.
“I’m so much more educated than you” You sound like a leftist SJW
You don't need to lose to show the massive cheating that went on. They all ready cheated. They've all ready committed their many crimes, both during this election and before. No need to lose the election to get them on all the crimes they've all ready done.
I read the whole post and I don't see that being the plan. How could it be?
If Trump loses the election, and Biden takes office, what recourse would Trump have to "go after them with a military tribunal"? He's no longer President and will most likely, immediately be attacked with charges and lawsuits that the House (and Senate) have been waiting to take him down with.
I'm not shouting you down, I'm just not getting your point.
Trump losing the election means he loses all his power. He'll probably get kicked off Twitter, and will lose what support he still has with the last stalwart GOP Senators who are standing with him now. How is he then supposed to go after those that stole the election? Is he going to sue as a former President?
And are you seriously claiming McConnel and Roberts are somehow actually working an angle to help Trump?
Speaking of Roberts, what courts will hear this Trump post election, post inauguration legal case? SCOTUS is refusing cases now while he's President. Do you think they'll be more cooperative after he's out?
This is the ultimate 4D chess "what if" I've heard.
Sorry to hear you were met with offensive responses, but what you're proposing sounds very improbable.
Some more questions about this theory.
Mainly, WHO would be "going after" the fraudsters AFTER Biden enters office? Who has the power to challenge and reverse what is being collectively done by the most powerful institutions in the world (Deep State, DC, Social Media, CCP etc)?
HOW would the justice seekers be taken seriously when the whole MSM, including conservative outlets, are deathly allergic to "conspiracy theories" and STILL claim there's no evidence.
WHY would Trump expose himself to the legal slings and arrows that are assured when/if he's out of office? Powerful, rich people want him in jail.
You have me curious, but doubtful.
I haven't replied to anything on thedonald in about two weeks of reading but this......this. All the way to Biden taking the office of the president, then it's all turned around and everyone is arrested? As much as I don't want no Biden, I am afraid it better be fixed before Biden is sworn in, people couldn't accept a flip back after that, we ain't all as smart as the guy who started this.
My only issue with this line of thinking is that once Biden is sworn in, he cannot be arrested. You cannot indict a sitting president. Impeachment is the only recourse and democrats hold the house. Gina have to hit January 19th.
Although like others have said it’ll be better to just overturn the election and convict on circumstantial evidence already collected.
You don't have to lose in order to expose that.
If so, don't give away the surprise ending.
This is a clearer explanation of your theory. I actually see the point of "you can't charge someone for a crime until they've committed it". But will Trump have the power to "charge" after Biden is in office?
I am going to give another example, because the level of stupidity in the responses is too high.
if trump WON on election night, NONE of you would have known that Biden was going to appoint so many Dominion employees to his staff.
Trump needs to LOSE for BIden to commit fraud and crimes.
after the whole process is done, he will have a massive case.
"Treason is the only crime defined in the U.S. Constitution. According to Article III, Section 3:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court ."
has biden confessed in an open court? no. that means that he cannot be charged with treason. same with everyone else. you need to wait until the whole process is completed before you attack people like Mitch when you dont know what is really going on.
The important word in that sentence is “OR”
"The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization."
for ACTS PERFORMED, not for ACTS NOT PERFORMED. that means you have to wait until the entire process is completed so that FUTURE ACTS OF CRIME CAN BE PERFORMED.
GOT IT?
Crimes have already been committed. Your arguments make no sense. Don’t die on this hill.