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Starlink can't be firewalled. Soon anyone on the planet will have access to the truth.
Starlink can't be firewalled. Soon anyone on the planet will have access to the truth.
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Imagine putting up your own global satellite network just so you could troll chinks from orbit. What a card
easy with the racism. It's ChinX
antimisgenderist!
everything is racist! - the Lego song
"everything is raccciiiissst, everything is offensive when you are part of the mainstream, everything is raccciiiissst"
“When you’re living in a dream”
and it makes me want to reeeee
more of both please
Haha
The paper plate company? I always knew they were up to no good
Cant be racist against communists. They aren't a race or people.
China will use "AI" to spread communist propaganda, they will essentially just re-brand communist material as coming from the all knowing "AI"
Bruh the last attempt or two the chinese made at making AI they killed because it learned communism is bad lol
Exactly my point.
Alibaba guy is an idiot. Loaded because he is corrupt, like 95% of wealthy Chinese (especially the ones who come to the US).
I called this the moment starlink was announced
He’s a mad lad.
"which needs a lot of power"
Rubbish. I'm sure I've read that it's less than 200W
China's power grid uses yuan.
Kek
110 V outlets are not widely available in China. They use 220 V.
Just nitpicking :)
It is the old European voltage. We use 230V in Europe now (and 400V for heavier machinery in a garage).
‘Sorry honey just moved my 8 inch jointer in the spare bedroom, don’t want to let that beautiful outlet go to waste’
220, 221 . . . whatever it takes.
You're not beaming back to Starlink on a tight beam to one satellite far out in geostationary orbit, you're sending a wide angle signal to all Starlink satellites whipping overhead at a fast pace. They can find those users easily.
And this re-education will be about teaching your organs how to function inside other people.
I laughed, but that's exactly what happens!
They’ll pump drugs to stop the recipient’s immune system from rejecting the new organ so if you think about it, even the organs will get re-educated
But if the users use a beam antenna they'll only be able to see the sidelobes or see it from their own satellites.
This person assumes cellular technology with cell towers used to triangulate is the same as communicating with a satellite network directly.
It's extremely rudimentary stuff to triangulate radio waves. It communicates in the Ku, Ke and E bands.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink
Ah I had only written code to simulate cell triangulation a long time ago. And that required 3 points to reduce the region
Starlink won't be open access. They simply won't allow them to connect. Musk isn't about to go to war with China.
Also he has literally come out and said he will purposefully set it up to not enable/allow access in China because he wants to operate Tesla in the country. He knows they will shit him down if he pisses them off.
You don't even need to get into all that. China allowed Musk to have 100% ownership in his Tesla.cn company. Usually you have to give up half to the gov.
Musk would never risk angering them, or his business there fails. And he needs that market to make his sales numbers.
the base stations can be fairly far away though so couldn't they put base stations on the border of China and allow people to use it inside China?
heck, we could start by drone striking that pathetic Three Gorges Dam
Breath on it, it will fall.
Yes. Because they'd be stupid enough to consolidate their nuclear response assets into one city.
It’s not stupid. They can’t have remote sites because that would require a political comissar every 6 feet all the way from there to beijing, to make sure the officers don’t feel a hankering of freedom. Commies can’t trust their own people
china has a vast underground network of tunnels used to transit mobile launchers outside the eyes of satellites
search for: underground great wall of china
CCP is also commie. Commies are less than useless.
We spent the Cold War fearing the superior organizational and scientific abilities of the USSR.
When the Iron Curtain fell, we realized they were all incompetent boobs who could barely tie their shoes.
That's where my thoughts are right now. They started the war with us, time for us to finish it the old fashioned way.
I truly believe it’s heading to that. The chicoms will not go quietly, they’ve come too far.
No time like the present.
What a preposterous idea
Many many many Chinese jump the great firewall anyway.
Imagine being a redpilled Chinese person. Must be a hell of a journey.
I hate China, what they do, and what they stand for.
But when you mentioned red pilled Chinese people I got a little emotional.
China is asshoe, but I love my based Chinese brothers and sisters, wherever they are.
Chinese people are just fine. They’re good people, often based, and the kind of neighbors you could wish for. The CCP, though, can all die in a fire. Hell, they can die in a fire just for what they did to the Chinese people themselves.
Thousands of years of Chinese culture and history, lost in fifty years by a mere handful of power seeking autocrats willing to burn down China and slaughter millions of innocents for a murderous ideology.
Absolutely fucking disgusting.
Countless Chinese embrace CCP doctrine. Indoctrination works
That makes them victims, not collaborators.
That is true, all the same they will do the CCP's bidding and must be seen as combatants
People aren't stupid, a huge portion of China's non-insider population knows the CCP is a problem. It was causing a brain drain until they started only allowing loyal party members to go abroad.
There actually are many...just no guns...no place to hide....boot firmly planted on your face...almost impossible to get out.
Oh I don't doubt it. I bet there's people like us that seem crazy to everyone else, who have breached the internet firewall and know things that the Chinese normies don't. And over there, sharing that information will get you in prison.
I'd say about 50% of all students at their universities have access and the knowledge of good VPN's that let them jump the wall.
The thing is that only a small minority of those start red-pilled to get out... it's a slow pill to swallow when you have literally been taught fake shit for 16+ years.
I used to build bootleg cable converter boxes to get free HBO. I bet there will be bootleg base stations to get free Starlink
Sure. The harder part will be hiding the parabola and LMB. They have to be outside and face the satellite. Not exactly stealthy.
Source: https://hackaday.com/2020/07/03/spacing-out-oneweb-rescue-starlink-base-stations-and-rocket-tests/
Probably not - it requires an account and is two-way, you can’t just decrypt them signal and call it a day.
Where is this coming from? Is starlink about to go live or something??
It's already up and running and being tested in eastern Canada and some rural parts of NE US. Expected to launch more full scale in early 2021.
Is free?
Of course not. Subscription based.
It's aimed at rural areas that don't get decent internet services like urban areas do. Latency and speeds are very competitive and sometimes better. I'm not sure about pricing.
The beta is $700 for the router and $100/ month, so, high initial investment. That is more intended for truckers and tankers though, the smaller consumer versions go live some time next year.
As soon as I can I'm signing up for Starlink.
Not going to happen.
The downlinks still need to be in the region of the customers
im pretty sure any one who wants to can easily vpn thier way out or use one of the myriad choices of apps out there to make it well, dirty chicom proof! ie: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/12/chinese-app-that-let-users-access-google-facebook-has-disappeared.html
and fun fact: china has more christians than communists! hahaha!
Starting to think Elon is going to be our tech savior but then again nothing comes free so free wifi is a scary thought.
They'll just take their phones and computers.
They literally can't. Their phones control every aspect of their lives, including their primary mode of financial transaction.
Taking away their phones would grind their economy to a halt.
and their surveillance.
Based Bond villain.
China could shoot down satellites
not thousands of micro satellites. that's highly cost prohibitive.
It cost more to build satellites and launch them
Information is the great equalizer.
Well, when you add Mr. Colt, anyway.
And even without TBH. You dont think several billion unarmed Chinese couldn't take out the vomitous mass of human filth that is the CCP?
French revolution babes say otherwise.
These satellites relay between each other, you can bounce till you get to a friendly ground node. Have you just not looked at the actual tech? Only way for china to block it would be to put satellites up that operated on the same frequency and just scrambled it. No firewall, no wires, and can't be jammed easily from a ground position.
It's that if CCP doesn't control your access to the modem, Elon isn't going to censor what you see. You could be sitting in the middle of Shanghai reading TD until the cops track your radio signal.
When you're holding a cellphone reading TD, can your neighbor tell Verizon to cut you off? No.
The same goes for Starlink, except it's a satellite terminal about the size of a briefcase, and the CCP is the neighbor. The routing is however Starlink wants to do it, if they want to direct all traffic through US servers with zero restrictions, then the CCP can only control traffic by controlling physical access to the terminals.
China will burn Musk so badly one day. They can and will seize his Shanghai plant any time they want, seize his assets, jail him or any of his employees on fake charges. At a minimum they will steal all the tech and knock off.
They don't play by the rules.
The North Koreans and Chinese will firewall it: by putting anyone with a capable device up against a wall and firing at them.
Holy shit I didn't even think of that
My hope is that he's fueling the train towards physically decentralized Internet as hard and fast as he can. Decentralized and encrypted software means nothing when Level3 and Cloudflare and other companies can just turn your access off. Methinks Starlink perfects its signal routing algorithm between its satellites, then starts selling home routers with line-of-sight signaling to local routers. No need for cable anymore.
This. People don't understand how the internet works.
He has become my second favorite businessman!
Luke 12:3. Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.
Unfortunately it's not something you get on every phone. It requires a specific receiver that currently sells for $500.
To my understanding satellites don't just float around, they stay in one specific place in the sky, and we can't just sit a satellite over china if they wish to shoot it down.
This all depends on the orbit of the satellite, not all satellites are geo-synchronous like you are referring to. The starlink ones are not geo-sync, they operate in a much lower orbit and would require additional thrust to maintain geo-sync or would de-orbit.
Starlink has 835 satellites up right now with hundreds more to come.
They are in LEO, not parked in geo-stationary orbit. That's why their latency is low.
I was excited about starlink, until I found out it it's the internet with a real kill switch - it has an emergency military-only operation mode. Between his global satellite network, reusable ballistic weapon platform, and autonomous vehicle technology he's making Skynet, with bonus potential of a border-to-border coast-to-coast high speed subway. Elon likes making weaponry - remember the Boring Company's first product was a flamethrower, lovingly milled, stamped and assembled by Kuka precision robotics. The Tesla solar farms and supercharger network are for autonomous police drones and bots - the endgame of the "defund the police" operation.
Wait so it's like wifi from space?
Most chicoms, like most leftists, don't want to know the truth.
Commies are brainwashed just as hard as American leftists. They won't accept the truth even when it is presented.
Those in China who do want to find the truth already can using VPN and similar technology.
They will physically destroy satellites. Mark my words - if starlink won't apply censorship the satellites will get burned. EMP or physical.
China: *blows up at he satellites*
China: “you won’t do shit”
The point of the great firewall of China is not to stop the educated people in the cities and coastal regions from accessing content. The firewall is meant to control the information accessible to the massive chinese underclass located inland and on the fringes. The poor access the internet at the local library largely unaware of the curation and censorship
CCP think about if already, They will arrest everyone with a satellite disk
Look, you don't know what are in those satellites. They could absolutely censor at the satellite level. Don't get complacent. Our government signed off on those things, and has back doors in every other internet provider.
They either have to jam it or shoot them down.
CCP will just ban it outright/force starlink to route through their great firewall
Where did you get such an idea? Of course it can and will be firewalled at the base stations. More likely they won't be allowed to use the service.
China has hunter killer satellites. Hopefully he has prepared for that. Can you Jam the satellite signal?
They will just stop you from being able to pay for it. Unless starlink accepts bitcoin and the antenna can be hidden inside the home I think it won't make much a difference.
What is China starts shooting then down?
They'll put pressure on him to install one they can control. He'll say no. Then they'll try to blackmail him and his tesla product. He'll say no. Then they'll ban the sale of his products in the country, but it'll be too late by then. Then they'll sabotage them with hax, missiles, space sharkX with laser beams on their heads, etc. Calling it now.
No he will not. China will not allow citizens to purchase the antennas required to connect.
Starlink is Googles network in disguise... make no mistake... Elon is not your friend.
What makes you say that?
Neurolink -- have fun with that rabbit hole...
No, he will probably censor because he has a billion dollar factory in China and trying to grow tesla there
Elon is a single man who can't be trusted.
Not that he's evil, but that he's in it for himself.
You fucking think he won't treat the country like he's treated his ex wives and children? Just saying. I'm skeptical of his deeds.
If he's in it for himself why would he even bother with all this? he made bank when he sold paypal. He literally bankrupted himself just to make sure spaceX and Tesla survives. If he's in it for himself, why start companies with a ridiculously high failure rate and put all your money into it? Even Bezos's space company is a failure compared to spaceX despite having literally billions more in money compared to Elon. I'm not shilling here, but your argument of "he's in it for himself" doesn't exactly align with Elons actions. You're also using family problems as comparison.
That's all true. He could be sitting on the beach inside his 100 acre estate in some tropical paradise somewhere. Instead he's spent the last 10 years busting his ass building companies that had a far greater chance of failure than success.
I think he does these things just because he wants to do them. And to go to Mars.
Sure, but at this moment his ire is directed towards the regressive left. He's in all likelihood a bit autistic so he may do disproportionate things in retaliation just to spite them.
Huh, I never considered that. The pedo shit really pissed me off and I thought he should've lost that case. Everything else about him is golden.
I agree. I’m not saying the man isn’t a genius, but instead that I don’t understand why people glorify him.
Lol I’m not shitting on his success. I’m just saying he’s a bit of a douchebag and I don’t trust him.