^^^this. absolutely no need for a re-do when you havr already won with legal votes cast. if the people of urban detroit, philly, atl, milwaukee, phoenix, las vegas, feel disenfranchised, then sue their respective election commissions for the election fraud they have blatantly perpetrated, BANKRUPT THEM ALL!
Pretty much all of us here & at T_D admired Mattis.
We THOUGHT he was a real-deal, hardcore, bad-ass marine hero.
Turns out he's a cheap, street corner hooker who will turn tricks for the highest bidder (or since he's military, for just about ANY bidder) just like all the rest of the swamp creatures.
Fuck him.
Don't be too hard on yourself, Fren....we were all lied to. >:-(
A lot of people don't realize how compromised the military is, did we forget about Mattis and esper when the riots were going on? The military is made up of millennials now, a lot of your higher ups are Democrats. Hell, Flynn is a Democrat, I don't even know if I should trust him. He hurt the Trump administration pretty badly in the beginning.
Maybe they'll get the hint once they see necks snapping & heads getting canoed....
If not; I don't know about you but I've been stocking up on ammo for years......plenty to go around......
Yeah that doesn't matter. The soldiers are going to look at Trump, who's never worn the uniform, giving them orders and then they're going to look at Lt General, in uniform and they're going to follow that general.
I don't see anything wrong w/this plan. Personaly I think we should redo the whole thing everywhere on paper ballots & just spring it on em. No mail in, No absentee. If your ill & cant get there then I dunno they can request & it has to be done by a notary & a witness but thats it. No one else & they have to be of sound mind & incabable of getting to the voting location. No more drop off boxes or random locations. The voting places must be offical with cameras, open rooms, windows etc & the workers must sign shit saying they'll be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. All transparent as fuck so transparent it'll be embarassing almost. That they have put themsleves in such a position that any quick movement will be under the microscope making it uncomfortable. I garauntee any people with honor & integrity would sign up for that job. & it might seem like theres not enough time for all that but I say FUK THAT!. We can look at it the way we do natural disters & disater relief. No one says "oh theres no time , it'll cost too much" we dont cuz its an emergency. Well "folks" we have reached emergency standards call it a dister, a natural disater, a human error disater, a "built in glich" disater or an "act of God" dister but its an emergency either way. With this system on paper NO ONE COULD SAY 1 FUKN THING & I bet my life the win would be inasane. I bet NO ONE would vote for sleepy creepy & the whore, NO ONE!
Don't forget: military counting. Even under a microscope if nobody prosecutes and nobody has standing to sue for videoed fraud then all the transparency would be for ought. At least the military--say what you will about ideological infection--is more reliable than someone wearing a BLM shirt counting Trump ballots.
A redone election would be great because then we could see the true magnitude of the landslide.
yeah I dont see an issue with this. I mean didnt the military assist in voting back in the day cuz racism & shit? For sure I agree 100% military counting.
They would all cry voter intimidation and not show up, cause they never cared about Biden to begin with. Fuck em, but you know they'd be screaming with their exorcist heads spinnin.
yeah, prob theyd kick & scream heads def spin but they'd go theyd have no choice. & the ones that are soo convinced Biden won would go cuz in their heads he won so he would again But ALL the receipts would show HOW SEVERELY HE LOST. The numbers wouldn't lie. Personally I think the turnout would be fuckn crazy. & there are only so many ppl that can legally vote. Where is the suppression? I mean legit suppression. Anyone who cant go in person just has to show they can't & that they can legally. Then we make sure their vote is counted, but also biggly verified.
The registration, turnout, & paper trail couldn't be suppressed by the media. It also could be verified over and over as many times needed until they get it. Theyd cry but like children eventually their tantrum would stop. & when their sobbing, drained, hungry & sleepy we can explain it to them. I mean it is what it is. Im nobody w/no big ideas Im just saying I dont see an issue w/ a redo all the way. We could do it & if we do I think there should be no negotiations paper in person open/transparent & the fear of God, thats all Im saying.
I know we won. I believe the numbers are prob closer to 100 mil for GEOTUS. I think he won every state. And even though this slow process it is the proper one &
it's "rounding the curve" & many are taking notice. I also feel like because of how it is going & if nothing happens by way of censorship/suppression there will still be many that will believe we "forced" this bullied ppl to believe or intimidate false claims of voter/election fraud (cuz why not if Biden could win legit in their minds why not Trump & deplorables just fukn force the "stolen" narrative)
& I know who care what they think
I am NOT saying "let's" do a redo
I'm just sayin if we did I understand why, I wouldn't be against it & if so then ONLY if done like I mentioned before
however now that I think about it I kinda feel like no one should go vote again on either side like a fucking voting boycott until their both done this way & we fix this one. But that would take getting the other side to see they were fukd too
Only way that would work is if we could prove that in some cases Dems were cheated by Rinos in their state & in their local. But that prob didn't happen so never mind.
I already said Im no one with any ideas I was just stating that Id be ok with a redo under those specific nonnegotiable requests, thats all.
To avoid civil war? We're dealing with whether or not we're a Democracy here. At this point so many idiots have been inundated with "Biden is prey-elect" that they might take Trump claiming victory as a coup and not a counter-coup. Rerunning the elections properly and securely would both help to restore faith in our electoral system while also possibly help our down ballot situation in the house and senate.
Eh your both right. This election is deciding mob rule (democracy) vs. America's natural state (Constitutional Republic). SCOTUS has already flouted the Constitution, so... not looking good for the preservation of our Union.
SCOTUS decision really pisses me off because it was a "fuck you" to the entire country really. 1/2 the states on one side, 1/2 the states on the other, and when we ask SCOTUS to judge they're just like, "Uhh... nooo... we're scared of what might happen if we say the wrong thing." Ironically possibly the worst thing they could have done.
Okay and that's being eroded so what are we fighting against becoming then? I said we're currently a Constitutional Republic (or at least we were founded as such) and mob-rule is eroding that into a pure Democracy... which will eventually become autocratic (because mob will feed the mob and grow into an authoritarian regime).
You're absolutely right about the SCOTUS decision implications. Now they just need the most populous states to collude and cheat in a few swing states to win control basically on a populous basis which is a democracy and not a constitutional republic like the SCOTUS is supposed to protectct
It really is the worst thing they could have done. Telling some 20 states that "they have no standing" in a dispute between states in a federal matter? That roughly translates to "States have no legal voice in the Union." So what is the point of being in the Union?
I have to wonder if this would apply in the other direction, but even whether it's hypocrisy or just plain cowardly impotence - their failure in this matter speaks volumes.
If that re-do had proper oversight. And then they would still accuse Trump of a coup because he forced “a do-over” and “intimidated” voters the second time around. Ultimately it still counts in the backbone of our other elected and appointed officials to stand up for it, which I still have little hope for. We have to keep the pressure on them unrelentingly.
No, that would not be sufficient because about 20 different methods of fraud were used. We need a REALLY secure election with paper ballots, voter ID, permanent ink on the finger, basically every security measure that could ever be thought of and the whole thing under direct military control with absolutely no bullshit and games allowed. Me personally, that is the only way I would ever regard a Biden victory as legitimate is if it was held under those circumstances.
The left will just say the election was rigged, the position we are now in. Neither side is going to be happy. No one has faith in the elections and this problem will extend beyond Trump's presidency.
I mean the left isn't going to accept it even if we let each one of them count the ballots for themselves. They'll just say numbers are racist. Don't redo it and just give (((them))) another opportunity to cheat because you just know even with the strongest possible safeguards they'll still find some rotten, crooked, shady way. Just declare and enforce victory and that's it.
yes, but then we dont have to feel bad for shooting them when they riot afterwards! being able to replicate the count is for posterity and is always in everyones best interest!
you're a goddamn fool if you think the courts or Congress will help us.
You don't need the Courts or Congress, just Pence.
Pence opens the envelopes... just like a mail-in vote.
Just like a mail-in vote, Pence is responsible for determining whether to open the envelope, including... whether it came from a real state (e.g. don't open envelopes from the "State" of Puerto Rico)... from some one with authority to cast the ballots (e.g. registered to vote / appointed by Legislatures / appointed by Executive who broke the rules that the Legislature requires)... etc...
And the Court has already stepped out of the way. If GA, MI, WI, PA, etc. want to challenge Pence's decision then it's their burden to take it to the SCOUTS and prove that they didn't break the law...
Sound familiar? Don't you recall some prominent voices saying these states should have to prove they didn't cheat?
Yea, I looked it up as well. That gives the president military power to enforce legislation (which afaik still has to be passed by congress) so it doesn't allow him to be a dictator unless you are using the leftist definition which is anyone who enforces any law at all
Sure, so he could use that article to use the military to enforce the law to hold the responsible parties accountable. Once again idk what this has to do with dictatorship, which is what I have asked twice now? That article doesn't allow him to use the military to do whatever the hell he wants and doesn't give him absolute power as in a dictatorship. Unless, like I mentioned before, you're talking about leftist definition of dictatorship
RED, WHITE AND BLUE FLU MONDAY JAN. 4TH BRING THE U.S. TO A STANDSTILL 70+ MILLION people not showing up for work will not go unnoticed. Show SCOTUS and the world the might of American patriots. Not everyone can attend the protests in D.C. MOSTLY everyone can afford to miss 1 day of work. If everyone who voted Trump calls off sick the same day, the U.S. will grind to a standstill. Tell your employer you may have been exposed to covid- (make this damn plandemic work for US!) On that day Don't use social media, don't make any purchases, don't watch tv, don't do banking or trade stocks. Literally shut down the country for a day. ( Go figure, a shut down we are in control of) This also sends another message-if we can organize this, we can organize other, less non-violent protests. If you agree, please copy/paste-spread it far and wide.
We've still got roughly a month as of now. I'm no doomer, but the thought of acting-president Pelosi should scare the shit out of everyone. She will try to become dictator if she gets a whiff of the presidency, while the Senate and Congress roll over for her.
Every pede in the USA should be calling their reps and giving them an earful on this , the biggest constitutional crisis in the country ever.
A phrase Chris Wallace and Joe Biden MEME'd into existence from absolutely nothing.
CHRIS WALLACE [29-Sep-2020] : "... and to say that they need to stand down ..."
DONALD TRUMP: "... Give me a name, give me a name."
JOE BIDEN: "... The Proud Boys."
DONALD TRUMP: "Proud Boys stand back and stand by."
And so it was that the racially inclusive Proud Boys, originally founded on a joke, run by a prominent Florida Afro-Cuban, became the torch bearer for White Supremacy among low-information white voters. What a timeline!
And to think the Proud Boys are not even close to anything of the such. I honestly think they are a bunch of frat boy idiots. Sure they are on our side, but painting "fuck Antifa" on your butts? Screams stupid frat bros.
NON VIOLENT PROTEST RED, WHITE AND BLUE FLU MONDAY JAN. 4TH BRING THE U.S. TO A STANDSTILL 70+ MILLION people not showing up for work will not go unnoticed. Show SCOTUS and the world the might of American patriots. Not everyone can attend the protests in D.C. MOSTLY everyone can afford to miss 1 day of work. If everyone who voted Trump calls off sick the same day, the U.S. will grind to a standstill. Tell your employer you may have been exposed to covid- (make this damn plandemic work for US!) On that day Don't use social media, don't make any purchases, don't watch tv, don't do banking or trade stocks. Literally shut down the country for a day. ( Go figure, a shut down we are in control of) This also sends another message-if we can organize this, we can organize other, less non-violent protests. If you agree, please copy/paste-spread it far and wide.
Flynn got Mueller appointed. He was essential to kicking muh russia into gear.
The Clinton/Brennan crew didn't have enough political traction to appoint a special counsel until "they caught Trump's campaign lying about contacts with Russia." Maybe Flynn wasn't careful enough. Maybe there was nothing Flynn could do. Maybe the FISA warrant gave them enough eyes and ears that they'd eventually catch someone in a situation that they could twist into something... But maybe Flynn was in on it... The timing couldn't have been better/worse.
I don't think we can ever know for sure, but I completely understand if Trump doesn't want to entrusted Flynn with a position of power.
IMHO, election should be rerun in any state using compromised voting machines. Every single Dominion and Smartmatic state without exception, and ALL races, not just the presidential one. The cheating was probably WORSE in blue states because they knew they would get away with it. There are rumors that DJT won California, imagine if that's true, how would you know?
why only in states using compromised voting machines? there's a lot of evidence of fraud committed the old fashioned way, with workers simply throwing out R ballots that have nothing to do with the machines.
Yep, so many of us are sure that Dick Durbin should have lost in Illinois, they called his race as well within minutes of the polls closing. He also didn't campaign at all, blew off nearly every debate even, totally acted like the fix was already in.
someone just needs to sit down with the president give him ALL his options and lets get one of them going right now, this wait is literally taking over my life I feel like a solider everyday fighting for Trump I'm ready to rub it in the Dems face already
someone just needs to sit down with the president give him ALL his options
Who is this magical someone who you feel knows ALL the options that President Trump doesn't? Why do you imagine Trump has not already fully mastered each and every aspect of every option at his disposal? How could anything be more important to him right now?
I think Trump is the smartest person in the room and knows his options better than anyone else. He gets information from different people and puts the puzzle together. If he does not act, it would only because he knows it's not practical logistically.
Seize dominion machines and get evidence of fraud.
Arrest dominion employees and get confessions.
Seize ballots and conduct a hand recount
Seize envelopes and audit the signatures
Force a new election with paper ballots
Almost anything would be good, aside from doing nothing and letting this fake election end the USA forever. None of the above is even that controversial compared to something like bombing villages in the Middle East.
I'd like to see both. A thorough investigation showing how Trump really won in a landslide, AND a revote that confirms it. The vast majority of the people would accept that. If we even win, just by proving the fraud, they'll keep screaming.
First off, this is a really well-written and factual article. It sounds like, you know, actual "journalism". Thanks for posting. And I am thinking if congress cucks on this one that is probably going to happen. Trump probably put a "plan B" team in place a long time ago and is just exhausting every legal option before the hammer drops. He probably even had conversations with these cucks warning them to not try this stunt and sure enough they did....
Fuck that, the votes are already there. It's time to capture and execute the communists that flooded the battleground states with fraudulent ballots and have shut down every challenge since Nov 3rd.
I think this has reached the point where this goes beyond ballot and voter fraud. The courts are also compromised. That’s a HUGE problem that simple elections don’t fix. The other issue is that there are current ELECTED officials that are compromised.
I have been saying for four years now that blackmail is the ultimate source of all these problems. This is the source of the cancer and until you cut it out, no other reforms will work.
Use the military as the voting booth guards and counting staff for the rerun. Make sure they are all aware of the list of 1.95 million ChiComs. Arrest ChiCom agents on sight and throw them in the brig for military tribunal.
Cross the Rubicon. The #TrumpTrain can handle it. Afterburners on the caboose, and #NoBrakes on this train.
Definitely something needs to be done and quickly, Supreme Court has already proved to be a massive flop and they were supposed to be the answer....so I don't see any other way forward that doesn't include the military.
The legal routes have not been exhausted. SCOTUS is still in play. We will have to see what fruits the Jan. 6th EC count will produce.
I agree that in the end, the military is the only way to drain the swamp.
Good. Administration moving the conversation toward the military. Also just saw a report on Newsmax (controlled oppo, but my family had it on) that SecDef halted all military briefings for Biden. Little things like this are very encouraging.
I love Flynn, but Trump can't simply roll out the military and force a new election. He must show the American people indisputable proof of the cheating and that the court's are not correcting the issue before hand. With years to plan for this I find it inconceivable that Trump and the team weren't prepared with recording devices to catch the ballots being printed, delivered and unloaded in these locations.
I'm as loyal as anyone in the audience and I'm getting annoyed and bored with the show and I'm ready for some excitement! Let's go!
I want people arrested. All this "evidence" has produced a whopping zero arrests.
While everyone here (myself included) loves the slides and graphs, the average American will not wake up until someone goes to jail. These current cases are all aimed at invalidating the results, but I'm not aware of any police reports and criminal investigations.
With 4 years to prepare for this election knowing the fraud was coming, I'm admittedly disappointed that there were not better traps set to catch them in the act.
Sorry for the rant, I'm just ready to get this show going!
....I just want the fraud thrown out.
Watch the Matt Braynard research viddos.
Enough plain in-your-face fraud is there to secure Trump's victory.
Without even touching on the Dominion stuff.
^^^this. absolutely no need for a re-do when you havr already won with legal votes cast. if the people of urban detroit, philly, atl, milwaukee, phoenix, las vegas, feel disenfranchised, then sue their respective election commissions for the election fraud they have blatantly perpetrated, BANKRUPT THEM ALL!
Yeah but then a bunch of retards will be saying Drumpf stole the election for the next 4 years
Would rather them get GTFO'd big league through a reelection
Pretty much all of us here & at T_D admired Mattis. We THOUGHT he was a real-deal, hardcore, bad-ass marine hero.
Turns out he's a cheap, street corner hooker who will turn tricks for the highest bidder (or since he's military, for just about ANY bidder) just like all the rest of the swamp creatures.
Fuck him.
Don't be too hard on yourself, Fren....we were all lied to. >:-(
Those you trust the most.
Well, when you teach them critical race theory... you produce an indoctrinated mess.
Does your Bozo cousin in the Marines even realize that this is a Communist coup??
I bet he's been mind controlled by the steady barrage of propaganda and disinformation of the MSM.
"former"
Same here, my dad's retired USAF. He always jokes about how they seemed to lobotomize you once you were promoted past a certain rank.
A lot of people don't realize how compromised the military is, did we forget about Mattis and esper when the riots were going on? The military is made up of millennials now, a lot of your higher ups are Democrats. Hell, Flynn is a Democrat, I don't even know if I should trust him. He hurt the Trump administration pretty badly in the beginning.
unfortunately I think the only thing that's going to cure that is death, I just don't know if the replacing generation will do any better.
Maybe they'll get the hint once they see necks snapping & heads getting canoed.... If not; I don't know about you but I've been stocking up on ammo for years......plenty to go around......
What are you talking about?
How did Flynn hurt Trump?
Fell into the same trap that Jeff sessions did with the Russian scare. That helped to give legitimacy to the Russia gate conspiracy.
Soldiers follow orders. Yes, Trump is their commander, but if the Deep State Generals are compromised, I don't trust the soldiers.
Commander-in-Chief is above General.
Yeah that doesn't matter. The soldiers are going to look at Trump, who's never worn the uniform, giving them orders and then they're going to look at Lt General, in uniform and they're going to follow that general.
replace the generals
Now is the time for Trump to replace them.
As someone actively serving I agree with your assertion.
Thanks for your service!
I don't see anything wrong w/this plan. Personaly I think we should redo the whole thing everywhere on paper ballots & just spring it on em. No mail in, No absentee. If your ill & cant get there then I dunno they can request & it has to be done by a notary & a witness but thats it. No one else & they have to be of sound mind & incabable of getting to the voting location. No more drop off boxes or random locations. The voting places must be offical with cameras, open rooms, windows etc & the workers must sign shit saying they'll be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. All transparent as fuck so transparent it'll be embarassing almost. That they have put themsleves in such a position that any quick movement will be under the microscope making it uncomfortable. I garauntee any people with honor & integrity would sign up for that job. & it might seem like theres not enough time for all that but I say FUK THAT!. We can look at it the way we do natural disters & disater relief. No one says "oh theres no time , it'll cost too much" we dont cuz its an emergency. Well "folks" we have reached emergency standards call it a dister, a natural disater, a human error disater, a "built in glich" disater or an "act of God" dister but its an emergency either way. With this system on paper NO ONE COULD SAY 1 FUKN THING & I bet my life the win would be inasane. I bet NO ONE would vote for sleepy creepy & the whore, NO ONE!
Don't forget: military counting. Even under a microscope if nobody prosecutes and nobody has standing to sue for videoed fraud then all the transparency would be for ought. At least the military--say what you will about ideological infection--is more reliable than someone wearing a BLM shirt counting Trump ballots.
A redone election would be great because then we could see the true magnitude of the landslide.
It should be that way, for every presidential election from here on.
yeah I dont see an issue with this. I mean didnt the military assist in voting back in the day cuz racism & shit? For sure I agree 100% military counting.
They would all cry voter intimidation and not show up, cause they never cared about Biden to begin with. Fuck em, but you know they'd be screaming with their exorcist heads spinnin.
yeah, prob theyd kick & scream heads def spin but they'd go theyd have no choice. & the ones that are soo convinced Biden won would go cuz in their heads he won so he would again But ALL the receipts would show HOW SEVERELY HE LOST. The numbers wouldn't lie. Personally I think the turnout would be fuckn crazy. & there are only so many ppl that can legally vote. Where is the suppression? I mean legit suppression. Anyone who cant go in person just has to show they can't & that they can legally. Then we make sure their vote is counted, but also biggly verified.
The registration, turnout, & paper trail couldn't be suppressed by the media. It also could be verified over and over as many times needed until they get it. Theyd cry but like children eventually their tantrum would stop. & when their sobbing, drained, hungry & sleepy we can explain it to them. I mean it is what it is. Im nobody w/no big ideas Im just saying I dont see an issue w/ a redo all the way. We could do it & if we do I think there should be no negotiations paper in person open/transparent & the fear of God, thats all Im saying.
Why would we re-do an election that we won, overwhelmingly, and that which the opposition is trying to steal?
I know we won. I believe the numbers are prob closer to 100 mil for GEOTUS. I think he won every state. And even though this slow process it is the proper one & it's "rounding the curve" & many are taking notice. I also feel like because of how it is going & if nothing happens by way of censorship/suppression there will still be many that will believe we "forced" this bullied ppl to believe or intimidate false claims of voter/election fraud (cuz why not if Biden could win legit in their minds why not Trump & deplorables just fukn force the "stolen" narrative)
& I know who care what they think I am NOT saying "let's" do a redo I'm just sayin if we did I understand why, I wouldn't be against it & if so then ONLY if done like I mentioned before
however now that I think about it I kinda feel like no one should go vote again on either side like a fucking voting boycott until their both done this way & we fix this one. But that would take getting the other side to see they were fukd too
Only way that would work is if we could prove that in some cases Dems were cheated by Rinos in their state & in their local. But that prob didn't happen so never mind. I already said Im no one with any ideas I was just stating that Id be ok with a redo under those specific nonnegotiable requests, thats all.
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Toss every vote wherever Dominion was used. Crunch the new numbers. Trump wins. That would teach them not to try and cheat using Dominion.
Dominion?
To avoid civil war? We're dealing with whether or not we're a Democracy here. At this point so many idiots have been inundated with "Biden is prey-elect" that they might take Trump claiming victory as a coup and not a counter-coup. Rerunning the elections properly and securely would both help to restore faith in our electoral system while also possibly help our down ballot situation in the house and senate.
Constitutional Republic.
Eh your both right. This election is deciding mob rule (democracy) vs. America's natural state (Constitutional Republic). SCOTUS has already flouted the Constitution, so... not looking good for the preservation of our Union.
SCOTUS decision really pisses me off because it was a "fuck you" to the entire country really. 1/2 the states on one side, 1/2 the states on the other, and when we ask SCOTUS to judge they're just like, "Uhh... nooo... we're scared of what might happen if we say the wrong thing." Ironically possibly the worst thing they could have done.
No, only the guy who said Constitutional Republic is right.
Okay and that's being eroded so what are we fighting against becoming then? I said we're currently a Constitutional Republic (or at least we were founded as such) and mob-rule is eroding that into a pure Democracy... which will eventually become autocratic (because mob will feed the mob and grow into an authoritarian regime).
You're absolutely right about the SCOTUS decision implications. Now they just need the most populous states to collude and cheat in a few swing states to win control basically on a populous basis which is a democracy and not a constitutional republic like the SCOTUS is supposed to protectct
It really is the worst thing they could have done. Telling some 20 states that "they have no standing" in a dispute between states in a federal matter? That roughly translates to "States have no legal voice in the Union." So what is the point of being in the Union?
I have to wonder if this would apply in the other direction, but even whether it's hypocrisy or just plain cowardly impotence - their failure in this matter speaks volumes.
Democratic Republic*
Constitutional Democratic Republic*
The problem is that they'll just scream that those are the fake elections
Yeah we need to stop assuming that their denials of reality have any realistic endpoint.
Don’t care
If that re-do had proper oversight. And then they would still accuse Trump of a coup because he forced “a do-over” and “intimidated” voters the second time around. Ultimately it still counts in the backbone of our other elected and appointed officials to stand up for it, which I still have little hope for. We have to keep the pressure on them unrelentingly.
No, that would not be sufficient because about 20 different methods of fraud were used. We need a REALLY secure election with paper ballots, voter ID, permanent ink on the finger, basically every security measure that could ever be thought of and the whole thing under direct military control with absolutely no bullshit and games allowed. Me personally, that is the only way I would ever regard a Biden victory as legitimate is if it was held under those circumstances.
Really though, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that would convince a useful idiot that Trump isn't the problem.
No -- you cheat, you loose
This would set a standard to just redo every election into the loudest side got the result they wanted
The constitution already explains how to deal with this situation
The left will just say the election was rigged, the position we are now in. Neither side is going to be happy. No one has faith in the elections and this problem will extend beyond Trump's presidency.
so that he can have all the ballots, and prove he won by being able to replicate the win during any recounts.
I mean the left isn't going to accept it even if we let each one of them count the ballots for themselves. They'll just say numbers are racist. Don't redo it and just give (((them))) another opportunity to cheat because you just know even with the strongest possible safeguards they'll still find some rotten, crooked, shady way. Just declare and enforce victory and that's it.
yes, but then we dont have to feel bad for shooting them when they riot afterwards! being able to replicate the count is for posterity and is always in everyones best interest!
Without voting machine fuckery and BLM commies counting ballots the outcome will be drastically different.
To win even bigger. No that all the scandals about corruption became public , we will win even more.
100%. Optics don’t matter. All that matters is that the republic is saved. We can deal with the leftard tantrums.
You don't need the Courts or Congress, just Pence.
Pence opens the envelopes... just like a mail-in vote.
Just like a mail-in vote, Pence is responsible for determining whether to open the envelope, including... whether it came from a real state (e.g. don't open envelopes from the "State" of Puerto Rico)... from some one with authority to cast the ballots (e.g. registered to vote / appointed by Legislatures / appointed by Executive who broke the rules that the Legislature requires)... etc...
And the Court has already stepped out of the way. If GA, MI, WI, PA, etc. want to challenge Pence's decision then it's their burden to take it to the SCOUTS and prove that they didn't break the law...
Sound familiar? Don't you recall some prominent voices saying these states should have to prove they didn't cheat?
Only in cities with left wing governments. Elsewhere, it was not tolerated.
How so? Who's definition of dictator, ours or the lefts?
Yea, I looked it up as well. That gives the president military power to enforce legislation (which afaik still has to be passed by congress) so it doesn't allow him to be a dictator unless you are using the leftist definition which is anyone who enforces any law at all
Sure, so he could use that article to use the military to enforce the law to hold the responsible parties accountable. Once again idk what this has to do with dictatorship, which is what I have asked twice now? That article doesn't allow him to use the military to do whatever the hell he wants and doesn't give him absolute power as in a dictatorship. Unless, like I mentioned before, you're talking about leftist definition of dictatorship
RED, WHITE AND BLUE FLU MONDAY JAN. 4TH BRING THE U.S. TO A STANDSTILL 70+ MILLION people not showing up for work will not go unnoticed. Show SCOTUS and the world the might of American patriots. Not everyone can attend the protests in D.C. MOSTLY everyone can afford to miss 1 day of work. If everyone who voted Trump calls off sick the same day, the U.S. will grind to a standstill. Tell your employer you may have been exposed to covid- (make this damn plandemic work for US!) On that day Don't use social media, don't make any purchases, don't watch tv, don't do banking or trade stocks. Literally shut down the country for a day. ( Go figure, a shut down we are in control of) This also sends another message-if we can organize this, we can organize other, less non-violent protests. If you agree, please copy/paste-spread it far and wide.
Good idea but not nearly enough. We need to march on DC and we need to do it on a huge scale, millions of people.
We've still got roughly a month as of now. I'm no doomer, but the thought of acting-president Pelosi should scare the shit out of everyone. She will try to become dictator if she gets a whiff of the presidency, while the Senate and Congress roll over for her.
Every pede in the USA should be calling their reps and giving them an earful on this , the biggest constitutional crisis in the country ever.
Stop with this narrative.
If you get caught cheating YOU LOSE, NO REDO
just like any other contest, you cheat, you are disqualified.
Well, point for me is: Trump wins no redo, then completely redo election system.
In person on one day only. Audit trail. ID required. Etc...
I am sorry, but you do not have standing, thus your argument doesn't apply.
A phrase Chris Wallace and Joe Biden MEME'd into existence from absolutely nothing.
CHRIS WALLACE [29-Sep-2020] : "... and to say that they need to stand down ..."
DONALD TRUMP: "... Give me a name, give me a name."
JOE BIDEN: "... The Proud Boys."
DONALD TRUMP: "Proud Boys stand back and stand by."
And so it was that the racially inclusive Proud Boys, originally founded on a joke, run by a prominent Florida Afro-Cuban, became the torch bearer for White Supremacy among low-information white voters. What a timeline!
And to think the Proud Boys are not even close to anything of the such. I honestly think they are a bunch of frat boy idiots. Sure they are on our side, but painting "fuck Antifa" on your butts? Screams stupid frat bros.
He could
He could declare himself leader for life right now
He could have Biden and Obama arrested
He could release everything
He could pardon people
He could do many things
Only thing that matters is what will he actually do?
LOL @ 11 downvotes for a post openly mocking doomers
LOL @ no edit button for the post, hence this reply
Need a Venn diagram of shills and doomers, showing the degree of overlap :)
NON VIOLENT PROTEST RED, WHITE AND BLUE FLU MONDAY JAN. 4TH BRING THE U.S. TO A STANDSTILL 70+ MILLION people not showing up for work will not go unnoticed. Show SCOTUS and the world the might of American patriots. Not everyone can attend the protests in D.C. MOSTLY everyone can afford to miss 1 day of work. If everyone who voted Trump calls off sick the same day, the U.S. will grind to a standstill. Tell your employer you may have been exposed to covid- (make this damn plandemic work for US!) On that day Don't use social media, don't make any purchases, don't watch tv, don't do banking or trade stocks. Literally shut down the country for a day. ( Go figure, a shut down we are in control of) This also sends another message-if we can organize this, we can organize other, less non-violent protests. If you agree, please copy/paste-spread it far and wide.
Fuck you cock sucker ! No one tells me i can't work. Go back 2 reddit , shill
No one is telling you that you can't work-This is entirely free choice. Not sure what you are ranting about.
And you demonstrate why they take us way less seriously than the left, our lack of unity and organization.
Thats what someone on welfare would say
On the bright side, no matter what happens, by the end of January we will finally be done with this waiting.
Why is Trump not putting Flynn in a position of power?
Flynn got Mueller appointed. He was essential to kicking muh russia into gear.
The Clinton/Brennan crew didn't have enough political traction to appoint a special counsel until "they caught Trump's campaign lying about contacts with Russia." Maybe Flynn wasn't careful enough. Maybe there was nothing Flynn could do. Maybe the FISA warrant gave them enough eyes and ears that they'd eventually catch someone in a situation that they could twist into something... But maybe Flynn was in on it... The timing couldn't have been better/worse.
I don't think we can ever know for sure, but I completely understand if Trump doesn't want to entrusted Flynn with a position of power.
why only battleground states?
it's not like dems didn't cheat in blue states.
the cheating wasn't only for president. tons of downballot elections would have been effected also, and those matter even in blue states.
IMHO, election should be rerun in any state using compromised voting machines. Every single Dominion and Smartmatic state without exception, and ALL races, not just the presidential one. The cheating was probably WORSE in blue states because they knew they would get away with it. There are rumors that DJT won California, imagine if that's true, how would you know?
why only in states using compromised voting machines? there's a lot of evidence of fraud committed the old fashioned way, with workers simply throwing out R ballots that have nothing to do with the machines.
Yep, so many of us are sure that Dick Durbin should have lost in Illinois, they called his race as well within minutes of the polls closing. He also didn't campaign at all, blew off nearly every debate even, totally acted like the fix was already in.
This would honestly be the LEAST invasive way to deal with the fraud.
Obviously the traitors need hanging.
But if SCOTUS is not going to enforce fraud at state level,
then obviously the responsibility falls to the president,
and military is the main tool he has for that.
He already won. He needs to disband the three letter and refuse to concede.
Ok, now what? More talking? More scenarios? Jfc Trump DO IT!!
hes a daisy if he does!
I was just playin.
Tell em I'm comin, and I'm bringing hell with me.
Could. Should. Won't.
we got time for that?
Can you imagine an Election do-over with no fraud?
Trump wins Georgia by 8%.
Forget about Georgia, he might have won VIRGINIA and CALIFORNIA, for heaven's sake.
someone just needs to sit down with the president give him ALL his options and lets get one of them going right now, this wait is literally taking over my life I feel like a solider everyday fighting for Trump I'm ready to rub it in the Dems face already
This should have been done months ago
Who is this magical someone who you feel knows ALL the options that President Trump doesn't? Why do you imagine Trump has not already fully mastered each and every aspect of every option at his disposal? How could anything be more important to him right now?
smh
I think Trump is the smartest person in the room and knows his options better than anyone else. He gets information from different people and puts the puzzle together. If he does not act, it would only because he knows it's not practical logistically.
Using the military to:
Almost anything would be good, aside from doing nothing and letting this fake election end the USA forever. None of the above is even that controversial compared to something like bombing villages in the Middle East.
I don't think a "re-vote" is a fair or practical or safe solution.
The election was held. The legal votes are legal. They are the real votes.
The illegal votes are identifiable. Just throw them out. Under military or civilian auspices, I don't think it matters.
A "re-vote" is of much more questionable legality, is an invitation to further fraud, and just doesn't seem necessary to me.
I'm open to having my mind changed by pedes who have a compelling reason or who know more about it than I do.
I'd like to see both. A thorough investigation showing how Trump really won in a landslide, AND a revote that confirms it. The vast majority of the people would accept that. If we even win, just by proving the fraud, they'll keep screaming.
First off, this is a really well-written and factual article. It sounds like, you know, actual "journalism". Thanks for posting. And I am thinking if congress cucks on this one that is probably going to happen. Trump probably put a "plan B" team in place a long time ago and is just exhausting every legal option before the hammer drops. He probably even had conversations with these cucks warning them to not try this stunt and sure enough they did....
If he did this imagine how quickly the left would start saying the election was rigged.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
They said that from 2016-2020. I no longer differentiate between leftist farthole and airhole. Shit gets spewed at both ends.
Honestly people are looking too much into this. He wasn't suggesting this. He simply said he had the power to do this.
The proper thing really is declare Trump the winner, not re-vote
Sounds great. Try and change the results via Dominion now faggots.
Be ready to take action.
Fuck that, the votes are already there. It's time to capture and execute the communists that flooded the battleground states with fraudulent ballots and have shut down every challenge since Nov 3rd.
Kemp should be the first one dead.
I think this has reached the point where this goes beyond ballot and voter fraud. The courts are also compromised. That’s a HUGE problem that simple elections don’t fix. The other issue is that there are current ELECTED officials that are compromised.
I have been saying for four years now that blackmail is the ultimate source of all these problems. This is the source of the cancer and until you cut it out, no other reforms will work.
You're not dooming if you point out the facts.
You're dooming if you say Trump's given up because you're impatient with the tick tock after 4 years of tick tock and you've given up.
Day ain't done.
Yeah, remember that the SCOTUS didn't give us the finger and reject the Texas case until the last minute last Friday.
Use the military as the voting booth guards and counting staff for the rerun. Make sure they are all aware of the list of 1.95 million ChiComs. Arrest ChiCom agents on sight and throw them in the brig for military tribunal.
Cross the Rubicon. The #TrumpTrain can handle it. Afterburners on the caboose, and #NoBrakes on this train.
Definitely something needs to be done and quickly, Supreme Court has already proved to be a massive flop and they were supposed to be the answer....so I don't see any other way forward that doesn't include the military.
The legal routes have not been exhausted. SCOTUS is still in play. We will have to see what fruits the Jan. 6th EC count will produce.
I agree that in the end, the military is the only way to drain the swamp.
Lol, stupid trumptards, what would General Michael Flynn know about the military? Just accept chinese rule!
I mean, just accept Biden as the president!
If the election gets re-run I am there with fucking bells on.
And, all my identification papers.
People are saying because the courts havnt done shit there must not be fraud
When in reality, almost every judge is a pussy and doesn't want the left, cia coming after them and their family
Good. Administration moving the conversation toward the military. Also just saw a report on Newsmax (controlled oppo, but my family had it on) that SecDef halted all military briefings for Biden. Little things like this are very encouraging.
If the courts want to ignore the fraud at risk of chaos then they need to becareful what they wish for.
I don't want to re-run elections. I want to punish fraud.
Just fucking do it already - impound that shit!
Roll up the crooks!
Let's sure hope so!
I hope this is a bluff to appear weak because if they had the goods doing a re-run wouldn't be necessary.
Yes please :)
Do IT!
I love Flynn, but Trump can't simply roll out the military and force a new election. He must show the American people indisputable proof of the cheating and that the court's are not correcting the issue before hand. With years to plan for this I find it inconceivable that Trump and the team weren't prepared with recording devices to catch the ballots being printed, delivered and unloaded in these locations.
I'm as loyal as anyone in the audience and I'm getting annoyed and bored with the show and I'm ready for some excitement! Let's go!
Trump was on TV a couple of weeks ago for 45 minutes where he pulled out graphs and slides, showing the fraud.
We have experts, witnesses, and other officials, who signed affidavits, attesting to the fraud before elected officials and committees.
Short of Joe Biden saying on national TV, “we cheated, all the people on TV are telling the truth,” what more do you want?
I want people arrested. All this "evidence" has produced a whopping zero arrests.
While everyone here (myself included) loves the slides and graphs, the average American will not wake up until someone goes to jail. These current cases are all aimed at invalidating the results, but I'm not aware of any police reports and criminal investigations.
With 4 years to prepare for this election knowing the fraud was coming, I'm admittedly disappointed that there were not better traps set to catch them in the act.
Sorry for the rant, I'm just ready to get this show going!
Here here!
Rubicon Don.
We don't need to re-do the election; ee already know Trump won in every swing state. We need indictments, arrests, prosecution!