On paper civil asset forfeiture has merit. I believe the idea is that if someone tons a bank you don't want them using the money to fund their legal defense, or quickly converting it into artwork and jewelry. I doubt how it's abused now was it's intent.
Why I'm glad the sheriff in my county held a public meeting outside the mayors office at the start of all saying his department will not enforce any order from state or local authorities. The entire force was there and cheered along with about two dozen citizens.
People need to remember police are people not an idea- some or evil some or good. Just don't assume you know which is which based on a commercial or fund raising slogan
Been seeing people call for civil asset forfeiture of CCP assets used to affect the election here lately.
The appeals process set by the courts that you have to prove that it wasn't used in a crime is the problem, not that asset seizure in the first place. Its like saying that the police can't seize a brick from a rioter when the assailant is not near a construction site, much less one that he is authorized to be at.
When I was in high school, they gave everyone tickets for cutting across traffic to enter the school parking lot. It was super busy and there was no light. It was the only way in.
They gave out 100+ tickets on day. One of my friends got a ticket, and when asked why they didn't help guide traffic the cop said "That's not my job."
I was in high school late 90s early 2000s in an extremely white suburban area with low crime. The police made their revenue just driving around looking for our parking pass hanging in the rear view mirror and pulled us over for dumbest fucking shit. At night they would pull us over looking for pot or booze. Even if you werent speeding they would say you were "swerving" or acting suspicious. They knew we wouldnt do anything about it because nobody had a fucking lawyer with them. Same depts are now taking a knee for BLM and shutting down business on behalf of "county orders".
When I was 20 I was driving up to my college for New Years and had to take a leak so I took a back road the final leg of the trip instead of the highway to find a bathroom and ended up driving by a cop on patrol. I saw the police car parked on the side of the road and drove extra careful (I was very intimidated by cops back then and had never been pulled over before) The cop immediately pulls up behind me and starts following me with his lights off and once again I’m being extra careful following every law to the best of my ability. Suddenly he turns his lights on, pulls me over and comes up to me and asks me if I’m drunk because I was swerving all over the place and crossed the yellow line multiple times. It was a complete bold face lie and I got ticketed $200 as a broke college kid. I think he targeted me because I had a college sticker on the back of my car. Terrible first experience with a police officer though and I should have fought the ticket in court.
Imo, law enforcement should be reactive, not actively out there seeking convictions. If you're told you have to come up with X number of tickets, convictions, drug bust, whatever, you're gonna figure out a way to find them, and it might not always be legit.
The thing is I don't mind traffic enforcement but it's like literally all they do is worry about people speeding on the highway which is a huge who cares. Shouldn't be any speed limits on them anyway.
I would rather have them post up near traffic lights and ban people running reds which happens all the time in Vegas. But they never do. Only just speeding.
Traffic enforcement is fine. It's the quotas that need to go. Imagine if everybody just stopped speeding and running reds. That cop would STILL be required to come up with a way to fill that quota or be reprimanded.
yep. there are very, very few people in the world that deserve unconditional support (if there is anyone like that at all), and it isn't based on profession
Cops are all talk never any action unless they can abuse their powers. They are a standing army; I tell everyone in my family who kisses boot thinking the police would never do anything against the people, that they are the force that always enforces tyranny, gun confiscation and round ups of "unwanted". Stazzi, Nazis, Chinese. . . Every society where dictators take power the police fall in line, heel and step.
Im sure the Russians, Germans, Italians, Chinese, etc, all thought the same "The Police/Military would never go against us!"
I think a team of highly trained investigators would still be necessary but they don't need the muscle. They could be like "look we solved who the pedophile playground molester he lives here and this is his picture. They can put it out and wait for the militia.
I support all those who have openly denounced their support for these stupid mask mandates. They will always have my back. But anyone who openly allowed these policies to be enforced due to them fearing losing their pensions can get bent
I'm done backing Cops. I will not ever call for their death or any crazy lefty thing like that, but I am 100% not on team blue.
Any cop anywhere that ever supported or enforced money making law enforcement schemes like speed traps is a corrupt fuck and part of the problem.
Speed traps are a friendly contest, and worthless these days thanks to Waze and similar apps.
Civil Asset Forfeiture on the other hand? Anyone who participated in that theft deserves to be put on the wrong end of a firing squad.
Civil Asset Forfeiture is theft.
On paper civil asset forfeiture has merit. I believe the idea is that if someone tons a bank you don't want them using the money to fund their legal defense, or quickly converting it into artwork and jewelry. I doubt how it's abused now was it's intent.
based, To be fair any cops enforcing lockdowns should be put on the wrong side of a firing squad too
Why I'm glad the sheriff in my county held a public meeting outside the mayors office at the start of all saying his department will not enforce any order from state or local authorities. The entire force was there and cheered along with about two dozen citizens.
People need to remember police are people not an idea- some or evil some or good. Just don't assume you know which is which based on a commercial or fund raising slogan
Been seeing people call for civil asset forfeiture of CCP assets used to affect the election here lately.
The appeals process set by the courts that you have to prove that it wasn't used in a crime is the problem, not that asset seizure in the first place. Its like saying that the police can't seize a brick from a rioter when the assailant is not near a construction site, much less one that he is authorized to be at.
Any policy implemented for the purpose of generating revenue instead of morally neutral enforcement of the law is corrupt as fuck.
Waze only works if a person reports the cop. And if everyone on the road is using waze.
Speed traps are okay when they get the guy doing 100 in a 35, for example.
When I was in high school, they gave everyone tickets for cutting across traffic to enter the school parking lot. It was super busy and there was no light. It was the only way in.
They gave out 100+ tickets on day. One of my friends got a ticket, and when asked why they didn't help guide traffic the cop said "That's not my job."
TLDR: How to make everyone hate cops.
I was in high school late 90s early 2000s in an extremely white suburban area with low crime. The police made their revenue just driving around looking for our parking pass hanging in the rear view mirror and pulled us over for dumbest fucking shit. At night they would pull us over looking for pot or booze. Even if you werent speeding they would say you were "swerving" or acting suspicious. They knew we wouldnt do anything about it because nobody had a fucking lawyer with them. Same depts are now taking a knee for BLM and shutting down business on behalf of "county orders".
When I was 20 I was driving up to my college for New Years and had to take a leak so I took a back road the final leg of the trip instead of the highway to find a bathroom and ended up driving by a cop on patrol. I saw the police car parked on the side of the road and drove extra careful (I was very intimidated by cops back then and had never been pulled over before) The cop immediately pulls up behind me and starts following me with his lights off and once again I’m being extra careful following every law to the best of my ability. Suddenly he turns his lights on, pulls me over and comes up to me and asks me if I’m drunk because I was swerving all over the place and crossed the yellow line multiple times. It was a complete bold face lie and I got ticketed $200 as a broke college kid. I think he targeted me because I had a college sticker on the back of my car. Terrible first experience with a police officer though and I should have fought the ticket in court.
Not really a TLDR, but you can have my updoot.
It starts with quotas. Quotas need to go.
Imo, law enforcement should be reactive, not actively out there seeking convictions. If you're told you have to come up with X number of tickets, convictions, drug bust, whatever, you're gonna figure out a way to find them, and it might not always be legit.
The thing is I don't mind traffic enforcement but it's like literally all they do is worry about people speeding on the highway which is a huge who cares. Shouldn't be any speed limits on them anyway.
I would rather have them post up near traffic lights and ban people running reds which happens all the time in Vegas. But they never do. Only just speeding.
Traffic enforcement is fine. It's the quotas that need to go. Imagine if everybody just stopped speeding and running reds. That cop would STILL be required to come up with a way to fill that quota or be reprimanded.
NYPD
NY State Police
You know who is REALLY fucked up? Those douche bag sheriffs who essentially tried to ambush Danny Presti of Mac's Public House in Staten Island.
Those faggots tried to play special ops and got fucked up deservedly so
https://abc7ny.com/staten-island-bar-autonomous-zone-macs-public-house-danny-presti/8576698/
*NKVD
I’ll back them when they back us.
Get back to me on that
We will likely be waiting awhile.
The great Awaitening
yep. there are very, very few people in the world that deserve unconditional support (if there is anyone like that at all), and it isn't based on profession
Yup this right here.
Cops are all talk never any action unless they can abuse their powers. They are a standing army; I tell everyone in my family who kisses boot thinking the police would never do anything against the people, that they are the force that always enforces tyranny, gun confiscation and round ups of "unwanted". Stazzi, Nazis, Chinese. . . Every society where dictators take power the police fall in line, heel and step.
Im sure the Russians, Germans, Italians, Chinese, etc, all thought the same "The Police/Military would never go against us!"
I think a team of highly trained investigators would still be necessary but they don't need the muscle. They could be like "look we solved who the pedophile playground molester he lives here and this is his picture. They can put it out and wait for the militia.
Seems like 4chan got that covered too
Name a law enforcement agency that is on your side... I’ll wait...
The dream police
I support all those who have openly denounced their support for these stupid mask mandates. They will always have my back. But anyone who openly allowed these policies to be enforced due to them fearing losing their pensions can get bent