On paper civil asset forfeiture has merit. I believe the idea is that if someone tons a bank you don't want them using the money to fund their legal defense, or quickly converting it into artwork and jewelry. I doubt how it's abused now was it's intent.
No, they exist to help keep society civil. The problem is that elites with influence and money are able to leverage those things to convince cops to work against the interests of the community. But the purpose of cops is and has always been to ensure civility and the adherence of common law. Without police (or in situations where police are prevented from acting) you get situations where crime starts skyrocketing and shit starts getting really bad, we know this both historically and can look at prime examples happening right now with Portland, New York, and Milwaukee
Not at all. The problem is that police, like any other government official, are susceptible to corruption once they become sufficiently insulated from any repercussions.
Town elects a sheriff. Sheriff has a couple marshals. Can round up a posse. Life is pretty good because at the end of the day, Sheriff still needs the town and town needs the sheriff.
Capitol city has their own police with their own special jurisdiction that couldn't give fewer fucks about the populace making a bunch of noise disturbing the ruling class. Did they get too aggressive? Arrest the wrong people? Capitol police investigated themselves and cleared themselves of any wrongdoing.
Nothing should be seized without proper legal proceedings. The 4th amendment exists to protect exactly this issue. CAF is the state rigging the game in its favor.
The courts? You must be a cop. The courts have shown their corruption at every level. More so in 2020 than any year I remember. Police take an oath to follow the constitution and are obliged to not follow unconstitutional laws. They CHOOSE to do what they're told by tyrants. I assume you are one the tyrants in blue who is just doing your job forcing small business to close while working on the weekend for costco
When an appellate court rules that a law passes constitutional muster and should be enforced, the street cop is supposed to override them and make his own law? That just shifts the tyranny down to the individual level.
Civil Asset Forfeiture is theft.
On paper civil asset forfeiture has merit. I believe the idea is that if someone tons a bank you don't want them using the money to fund their legal defense, or quickly converting it into artwork and jewelry. I doubt how it's abused now was it's intent.
No, they exist to help keep society civil. The problem is that elites with influence and money are able to leverage those things to convince cops to work against the interests of the community. But the purpose of cops is and has always been to ensure civility and the adherence of common law. Without police (or in situations where police are prevented from acting) you get situations where crime starts skyrocketing and shit starts getting really bad, we know this both historically and can look at prime examples happening right now with Portland, New York, and Milwaukee
Not at all. The problem is that police, like any other government official, are susceptible to corruption once they become sufficiently insulated from any repercussions.
Town elects a sheriff. Sheriff has a couple marshals. Can round up a posse. Life is pretty good because at the end of the day, Sheriff still needs the town and town needs the sheriff.
Capitol city has their own police with their own special jurisdiction that couldn't give fewer fucks about the populace making a bunch of noise disturbing the ruling class. Did they get too aggressive? Arrest the wrong people? Capitol police investigated themselves and cleared themselves of any wrongdoing.
Nothing should be seized without proper legal proceedings. The 4th amendment exists to protect exactly this issue. CAF is the state rigging the game in its favor.
The courts? You must be a cop. The courts have shown their corruption at every level. More so in 2020 than any year I remember. Police take an oath to follow the constitution and are obliged to not follow unconstitutional laws. They CHOOSE to do what they're told by tyrants. I assume you are one the tyrants in blue who is just doing your job forcing small business to close while working on the weekend for costco
When an appellate court rules that a law passes constitutional muster and should be enforced, the street cop is supposed to override them and make his own law? That just shifts the tyranny down to the individual level.
An eye opener is to go sit in a traffic court for a few hours and watch the "fairness"
It has been abused for so long that CBS "60 Minutes" did a story on it back when they used to do actual investigatory journalism.
That’s the problem with giving them extra enforcement powers, it gets abused.
Power corrupts, power congeals, and power accretes.