Why are you opposed to the government giving us our own money back. As a white middle class family man I basically never get anything for my taxes. The stimulus is the first time I have ever gotten something for my tax dollars.
Seems silly to be against them, considering it is my money in the first place.
I think White middle class families, and all families for that matter, need to have income tax abolished if we get noting for the tax imposed onto us. When one considers that income tax to be originally a temporary war tax for WW1, it's ridiculous that we even pay such a tax.
I agree with you, there needs to be assistance for all of our people who are unemployed or lost their business. We could evict all the illegals and genetically distant, stop foreign aid and redirect it to our folks. That's one solution.
Because you're not getting your own money back. The government isn't budgeting for this COVID relief, they're simply borrowing for it. Oh, and they're also feeding new pork projects with it, so you're going farther into debt on that, too.
The government doesn’t have to borrow money. They can just make it up out of thin air. That is what modern monetary theory is. The banks play by those rules, why should we be the ones who are burdened with austerity?
Creating money out of thin air would cause a dramatic devaluation. Like, Weimar Republic levels of inflation. So, we back up all this new money with debt. (Since the dollar is the world's reserve currency, that also gives it extra value, allowing us to run up this titanic debt.)
Someday, we might just make trillions of ghost dollars and pay off all of our debts with them. This would make the dollar worthless, but we'd also be paying off our debts for pretty much nothing.
If we can wrest our country back from the Chinese and other globalists, we'll still have the banks to deal with.
Dude. They’ve literally created several trillion dollars out of thin air and fed it to Wall Street since February of this year. It has done little to devalue the currency.
To pretend that giving regular struggling Americans a check would be some horrific event is absolutely retarded.
No, they've created trillions of dollars of debt our of thin air and directed the actual value to people of their choosing. Ultimately, however, that debt is paid for by us.
The currency still has value because it is perceived to have value. This is because it is backed by the Federal Reserve. There is no such thing as free money. In terms of debt responsibility, we are saddled with much more than the $1200 parceled back to us. The second they start printing money without backing it up, those dollars become high-integrity toilet paper.
Yes obviously. But explain to me how them creating trillions of dollars since the beginning of the year has devalued your currency. What products have risen at the same rate?
To pretend like giving people a small leg up during an insane time is the problem with our spending is really dumb. How many politicians are out there asking to defund pointless wars? Which ones are talking about sending less money to Israel’s defense budget? None? Oh weird.
It has caused pretty substantial inflation, which is only going to be worse tomorrow. You wouldn't know, because you've read a book and call yourself an expert, but part of my business has to pay some people in Euros, and the value of the dollar is dropping even faster than the Euro.
If you think it hasn't devalued the dollar, then you aren't paying attention.
I’m talking real life here, not international finance markets.
Can you buy less gas? Less food? Anything? When I go to the store, products still cost the same as they did in January, despite the government literally printing trillions of dollars.
Maybe rather than trying to shit on reading books you should open one. Modern monetary theory is here to stay so it would be smart to know how it works.
The stimulus checks are more like a loan, we’re supposed to pay them back come tax returns, though Trump said he’d waive it, but still a good amount of those trillions the government spent is just new debt
well not everyone. what about blind people or others with severe handicaps... they'd probably get more than a poverty level check if people werent abusing it so much.... that was the purpose for food stamps and unemployment and disability... kinda sad.
Nobody has explained to me yet why I should give a shit about the magic government numbers going up while my family pays $1500 a month in insurance premiums with an $8000 deductible.
The brainlet take is to be against a hard working middle class family getting a leg up while sitting silent when the government sends Israel trillions or buys some more missiles to blow up some brown people.
Ever since I got laid off I haven't been able to get a job as a part time food service employee, let alone my field. Fuck the dems abd rinos that fucked us over. For me this is war, they took liberties, my job and vote.
True. It's not like we can just walk into a business and start working tomorrow. Most of these politicians are so out of touch with job searching. It's a completely different ballgame than it was even 10 years ago with the ghosting etc. My last employer even ghosted me on a callback even though I'd worked there 4 years. I found out from a former coworker that I wasn't selected
Exactly. That has screwed over so many native born Americans over the years. No qualified applicants my ass. Managers lie to keep their H1B buddies employed and make sure they get their visas. Add in outsourcing everything too. I hope that Trump comes down on that hard next term. Biden will sell us down the river so fast.
Yes... But my business is a door to door business... I've had the cops called on me, blasted on Facebook and threatened just for doing my job!! It's what I do and what I know and they scared people so much for something that doesn't kill hardly anyone that they ruined my business!! We are barely getting by when it used to be very lucrative!! .... The real stimulus needs to be telling everyone to stop being fucking scared and go back to life as normal!!!
Weird. Verizon came door to door around me, and people that didn't want to deal with them just didn't answer their doors. 2 young women wearing masks and they stayed well over 6 ft back. It didn't bother me, but was strange that they didn't have business cards.
I refuse to wear a mask and I act normal and don't stand way away... I just don't even really think about it!! .... It depends on where I am .. I go to a lot of different areas and the more blue the area the more crazy they are about it!!
I fucking wish. Waking up with a rumbling stomach for the.....12th? day in a row, rolling over and seeing the dwindling amount of coins in my change jar and knowing that i'm not gonna eat much, if anything, today if I want to have some left for tomorrow is REALLY starting to make me angry. Been living on granola bars for a week and a half now while these assholes get ready for their month long vacation in their second and third homes.
Your job is your greatest asset. Not your house, not your car, gold or jewels, YOUR JOB. Business owners know this, but I don't know that workers fully realize it. Greatest wealth redistribution scam in history.
Yeah, great, no shet. And what about those who got fcked by their governors? Not their fault, not in their control, and so many are just trying to buy groceries, gas, and rent until next month
There is a problem with this currently. A lot of jobs were permanently lost. People are flooding back into the job market. There are more people in the job market right now and there are less available jobs.
We do need jobs and to get back to work, but there are roadblocks slowing down this process. This is intentional.
The GOP needs to do more about helping the unemployed and underemployed NOW, while also making it impossible for the economy to be shut down again. As for the economic shutdown, coward R’s and RINOs were complicit with the Dems. Even Trump was complicit to a point. He gave an inch, and you know how that went.
Good one, fuck the dems for shutting down half the jobs for the past year. Correct that and make it illegal to ever do again and I’ll be on board.
Lol make it illegal to do that again as if that fucking matters. It’s already illegal. I love your spirit tho
Jordan is right.
We don't need stimulus that comes from our own pockets. We need the economy back open and the government's hand out of our wallets.
Why are you opposed to the government giving us our own money back. As a white middle class family man I basically never get anything for my taxes. The stimulus is the first time I have ever gotten something for my tax dollars.
Seems silly to be against them, considering it is my money in the first place.
I think White middle class families, and all families for that matter, need to have income tax abolished if we get noting for the tax imposed onto us. When one considers that income tax to be originally a temporary war tax for WW1, it's ridiculous that we even pay such a tax.
That’s how it always goes, it starts off as a “temporary thing” and then never goes away
The UK’s income tax started to help fund the Napoleonic War and never went away
once government starts getting your taxes, they become addicted and you know the story with addicts.
You never need one but you always need another.
Exactly.
temporary, just like these masks and lockdowns
Exactly, "temporary" is code word for permanent
How does that help you if you aren’t working because of the fake pandemic?
I agree with you, there needs to be assistance for all of our people who are unemployed or lost their business. We could evict all the illegals and genetically distant, stop foreign aid and redirect it to our folks. That's one solution.
Absolutely based.
Thanks, it's the only way.
Because you're not getting your own money back. The government isn't budgeting for this COVID relief, they're simply borrowing for it. Oh, and they're also feeding new pork projects with it, so you're going farther into debt on that, too.
The government doesn’t have to borrow money. They can just make it up out of thin air. That is what modern monetary theory is. The banks play by those rules, why should we be the ones who are burdened with austerity?
Creating money out of thin air would cause a dramatic devaluation. Like, Weimar Republic levels of inflation. So, we back up all this new money with debt. (Since the dollar is the world's reserve currency, that also gives it extra value, allowing us to run up this titanic debt.)
Someday, we might just make trillions of ghost dollars and pay off all of our debts with them. This would make the dollar worthless, but we'd also be paying off our debts for pretty much nothing.
If we can wrest our country back from the Chinese and other globalists, we'll still have the banks to deal with.
Dude. They’ve literally created several trillion dollars out of thin air and fed it to Wall Street since February of this year. It has done little to devalue the currency.
To pretend that giving regular struggling Americans a check would be some horrific event is absolutely retarded.
No, they've created trillions of dollars of debt our of thin air and directed the actual value to people of their choosing. Ultimately, however, that debt is paid for by us.
The currency still has value because it is perceived to have value. This is because it is backed by the Federal Reserve. There is no such thing as free money. In terms of debt responsibility, we are saddled with much more than the $1200 parceled back to us. The second they start printing money without backing it up, those dollars become high-integrity toilet paper.
Yes obviously. But explain to me how them creating trillions of dollars since the beginning of the year has devalued your currency. What products have risen at the same rate?
To pretend like giving people a small leg up during an insane time is the problem with our spending is really dumb. How many politicians are out there asking to defund pointless wars? Which ones are talking about sending less money to Israel’s defense budget? None? Oh weird.
It has caused pretty substantial inflation, which is only going to be worse tomorrow. You wouldn't know, because you've read a book and call yourself an expert, but part of my business has to pay some people in Euros, and the value of the dollar is dropping even faster than the Euro.
If you think it hasn't devalued the dollar, then you aren't paying attention.
So your dollar buys less what now?
I’m talking real life here, not international finance markets.
Can you buy less gas? Less food? Anything? When I go to the store, products still cost the same as they did in January, despite the government literally printing trillions of dollars.
Maybe rather than trying to shit on reading books you should open one. Modern monetary theory is here to stay so it would be smart to know how it works.
Hah, you work for a living? Cracker, don’t you know about food stamps and welfare?
The stimulus checks are more like a loan, we’re supposed to pay them back come tax returns, though Trump said he’d waive it, but still a good amount of those trillions the government spent is just new debt
Explain to me why I should personally care about the us debt.
Absolute brainlet take. The money is coming out of your pocket, and if it's not, then you're a useless drain on society.
well not everyone. what about blind people or others with severe handicaps... they'd probably get more than a poverty level check if people werent abusing it so much.... that was the purpose for food stamps and unemployment and disability... kinda sad.
Nobody has explained to me yet why I should give a shit about the magic government numbers going up while my family pays $1500 a month in insurance premiums with an $8000 deductible.
The brainlet take is to be against a hard working middle class family getting a leg up while sitting silent when the government sends Israel trillions or buys some more missiles to blow up some brown people.
well... you do get the best military in history.
I disagree with this when you have democrat shitheads closing down people's jobs......
yes but the way he's saying it is that people are choosing not to work, which is true in some cases but definitely not all.
That's an old Reagan line. He's not wrong. Just footnoting the source.
Ronald “amnesty for millions of illegals” Reagan. What a hero.
Reagan didn’t have an entire half the government forcing millions of jobs to be shut down either.
Ever since I got laid off I haven't been able to get a job as a part time food service employee, let alone my field. Fuck the dems abd rinos that fucked us over. For me this is war, they took liberties, my job and vote.
Same, and every time I see someone hiring I go in and they tell me they already hired someone
Have you experienced the "this was a great first interview, we'll call you back for the second one." Then ghost you?
Ugh! Yes!
I hate when they don’t even let you know you didn’t get it and just never contact you
Lost two jobs and haven't been able to find another one. I would love to have a job, Mr. Jordan, but my fucking government is forcing me to stay home.
It's a matter of eminent domain at this point.
True. It's not like we can just walk into a business and start working tomorrow. Most of these politicians are so out of touch with job searching. It's a completely different ballgame than it was even 10 years ago with the ghosting etc. My last employer even ghosted me on a callback even though I'd worked there 4 years. I found out from a former coworker that I wasn't selected
Jim Jordan is a snake. Can't be trusted.
Controlled opposition. "How dare the Dems blah, blah, blah. Donate to my re-election campaign to help me write strongly worded letters"
100%. This guy is not on our side.
... so you accept a talking head who doesn’t do anything and betrays our interests? Maybe the American people do deserve to be slaves.
Meh. Use him, sure. Don't trust him. But I'm not into being with snakes because it benefits you. Mcconnell and Graham are disgusting.
Exactly. That has screwed over so many native born Americans over the years. No qualified applicants my ass. Managers lie to keep their H1B buddies employed and make sure they get their visas. Add in outsourcing everything too. I hope that Trump comes down on that hard next term. Biden will sell us down the river so fast.
Hunter Biden got foot jobs from his niece
Then open up the fucking country and get our kids back in school!
Eliminate teachers unions.
Wow. How about that!
Pisses me off. Shut down the factory for 3 weeks to keep is safe. Now we are working 7 days a week, might catch up in march? Working more than ever.
Best place to go when you're broke? To work.
And the most stimulating job? Bro job. Every time.
Thank you, again, Jim Jordan. Keep your check, give us back our lives. We know what to do.
Yes... But my business is a door to door business... I've had the cops called on me, blasted on Facebook and threatened just for doing my job!! It's what I do and what I know and they scared people so much for something that doesn't kill hardly anyone that they ruined my business!! We are barely getting by when it used to be very lucrative!! .... The real stimulus needs to be telling everyone to stop being fucking scared and go back to life as normal!!!
Weird. Verizon came door to door around me, and people that didn't want to deal with them just didn't answer their doors. 2 young women wearing masks and they stayed well over 6 ft back. It didn't bother me, but was strange that they didn't have business cards.
I refuse to wear a mask and I act normal and don't stand way away... I just don't even really think about it!! .... It depends on where I am .. I go to a lot of different areas and the more blue the area the more crazy they are about it!!
I fucking wish. Waking up with a rumbling stomach for the.....12th? day in a row, rolling over and seeing the dwindling amount of coins in my change jar and knowing that i'm not gonna eat much, if anything, today if I want to have some left for tomorrow is REALLY starting to make me angry. Been living on granola bars for a week and a half now while these assholes get ready for their month long vacation in their second and third homes.
Aldi has saved my ass with grocery costs. Granola bars are like 1.39/box.
Find a friend with a Costco membership and look for .97/.00 price tags (clearance) and monthly sale deals.
Your job is your greatest asset. Not your house, not your car, gold or jewels, YOUR JOB. Business owners know this, but I don't know that workers fully realize it. Greatest wealth redistribution scam in history.
Now take your $1000 UBI and be happy about it!
owning your own job (business) is much different than working for someone else but no UBI fuck that noise
Federal reserve printing presses go brrr
Yeah, great, no shet. And what about those who got fcked by their governors? Not their fault, not in their control, and so many are just trying to buy groceries, gas, and rent until next month
There is a problem with this currently. A lot of jobs were permanently lost. People are flooding back into the job market. There are more people in the job market right now and there are less available jobs.
We do need jobs and to get back to work, but there are roadblocks slowing down this process. This is intentional.
This is what all these limousine liberal commies claim they want: the ability to contribute to society and, in turn, for society to take care of them.
...you mean a “job” and a “paycheck”?
True . . . but if Uncle Sam sends me another stimulus check, I'm buying that new shotgun.
The GOP needs to do more about helping the unemployed and underemployed NOW, while also making it impossible for the economy to be shut down again. As for the economic shutdown, coward R’s and RINOs were complicit with the Dems. Even Trump was complicit to a point. He gave an inch, and you know how that went.
We're not allowed to have jobs anymore under threat of crushing fines and arrest.
I want to work and earn my money, but the Democrats are too drunk on power and are being authoritarian cunts...
Too bad some states arrest people for trying to work.
Jordan hasn't said shit about election fraud. Really disappointing.
That’ll never happen. Snakes like Jim Jordan will only go as far as they need to to get re-elected and nothing more.
The beater stimulus package: no federal/state income taxes.
If you aren’t making any money at all how does this help you?
Now apply that to all the banks and megacorps getting trillions.
I love this guy.....