Even though people are still testing positive for COVID-19, this does not mean they are actually contagious due to the over sensitive nature of the PCR tests.
Likewise, deaths labeled as "COVID deaths" are monetarily incentivized in hospital settings leadings to COVID-19 being listed as a primary cause of death for many cases when patients had cancer and other extremely serious comorbidities which were the underlying cause of death and compromise to the persons immune system.
You also have cases where gun shot victims are counted as COVID deaths which further highlights the fact that the statistics are being manipulated to incite fear and mass hysteria among the public.
Normal healthy people should not be following COVID restrictions. People who are older than 65-70 and who have pre-existing medical conditions are most at risk and should wear a mask or stay locked down in their home if that makes them feel safe but it should not be forced on the rest of the world.
Even though people are still testing positive for COVID-19, this does not mean they are actually contagious due to the over sensitive nature of the PCR tests.
Likewise, deaths labeled as "COVID deaths" are monetarily incentivized in hospital settings leadings to COVID-19 being listed as a primary cause of death for many cases when patients had cancer and other extremely serious comorbidities which were the underlying cause of death and compromise to the persons immune system.
You also have cases where gun shot victims are counted as COVID deaths which further highlights the fact that the statistics are being manipulated to incite fear and mass hysteria among the public.
Normal healthy people should not be following COVID restrictions. People who are older than 65-70 and who have pre-existing medical conditions are most at risk and should wear a mask or stay locked down in their home if that makes them feel safe but it should not be forced on the rest of the world.
Nice share! Great points, COVID is a contributing condition NOT the cause of death in most of these cases. I hope they don't get stonewalled on this audit like the election audit process has been. Wont be surprised if it does though.
100% agree with your analysis... it’s frankly just simple observation and has been apparent if you have been watching the actual data since February/March (in my case on TX Health Dept) then recognizing the false positive rate. Therefore the hysteria was obviously political... and that is what makes Biden a sick man. Can’t say enough..
It’s an outbreak of testing
Where I work, some people recently tested positive. I think they had some sickness, since they have symptoms and now they get to be off work for however long. Who knows what they are really suck with tough, I have my doubts about the test. Thursday I started feeling like I might be coming down with something and that night, it hurt a little to take deep breaths, I just took a little more turmeric, vitamin d and zinc than I usually take in my daily supplements and I was over it the next morning, I figure I got whatever my co-workers had, but I'm definitely not going to get tested and whatever it was, I'm over it now, so a test would be kind of pointless. I don't know why people let themselves be bamboozled into making a big deal out of minor cold viruses nowadays.
I tested positive this week. Don't know if I have the pinko pox or not, but I tested positive. Feels like a regular flu.
Ask for the CT, cycle count.... anything above 25 or 30 is apparently massive false positive
No virus is worth my civil liberties. It was politicized when it was used as a boot on our necks.
No, you talked about how we're retards for not acknowledging a virus that kills nearly nobody, because you got the nasty end of the stati-stick.
Prayers for you, your family, and your father, but a virus with a 50% infected mortality rate isn't enough for me to give up my freedoms.
I completly agree with your statement and I hope your dad fully recovers. I think the real problem with Covid is that rather than just giving people the facts and let them make their on decisions. It has been politicized and anyone that questions "the pseudoscience" is immediatley labeled cruel or ignorant or both. Covid is a strange virus, it could kill you or you may not even realize you have it. I don't discount the dangers it can present to some people, but it's just so random it's hard to figure it out. The thing that is ao frustrating is how the medical community has worked ass backwards against this thing. No movement toward developing a better test. No push to encourage people to improve their health. No real information about how ineffective the masks have been. The whole thing just seems so wonky, I question if the thing has been planned. It's a clusterfuck and we're still probably 6 months from pulling out of this nosedive.
No doubt it was planned, Fauci and Bill Gates were talking about how we would soon suffer a great pandemic years ago.
I remember reading on here there are COVID-19 related patents which were submitted well before the virus was even known to exist. If anyone can confirm that with a source it would be appreciated.
Well, if so many Covid diagnosis are false positives, is possible common cold, flu and other germs are misdiagnosed as Covid, to pad statistics, but also builds a sort of counter-narrative that Covid is milder than it seems.
I guess what I'm trying to say is Covid-19 does hit fairly hard, loss of taste and smell, along which possible reduction in lung function are typical, but due to the less then accurate nature of testing, and incentives for those doing the testing to create false positives, Covid-19 is not nearly as widespread, and narrative has sprung about it being asymptomic or really mild in most people. Anyway something to ponder.
You're correct and I think people are more angry at the fact it has been politicized over anything else. I don't think anyone should say COVID doesn't exist or isn't dangerous, it definitely has the potential to kill. There are cases of people dying from COVID with ZERO comorbidities or underlying conditions but this number is a hell of a lot lower than the people who do have pre existing conditions or underlying health problems. I wish your dad a speedy recovery, I know how hellish hospitals are I cannot imagine having to be in one during this shitstorm.
You miss the point. I don't think what my co-workers had or what I was starting to get was covid19. I think it was a regular chest cold and they are making it a big deal because the test said so.
They've muddied the terminology so much nobody actually knows for sure if the tests are even antibody tests or not anymore. Hell, they don't even say "tests" in the news anymore, only "cases", which should tip you off because that probably means "case report" which, by the way, there's multiple ones filed per any given person admitted to even small clinics.
Johns Hopkins Testing Tracker includes this:
"When states report the number of COVID-19 tests performed, this should include the number of viral tests performed and the number of patients for which these tests were performed. Currently, states may not be distinguishing overall tests administered from the number of individuals who have been tested. This is an important limitation to the data that is available to track testing in the U.S., and states should work to address it."
Johns Hopkins is one of the top 10 best research hospitals in the country.
Basically people driving laps around testing centers all day to fluff the results.
I know an ICU worker at a major hospital in a large city. They told me this time of year is normally busy for flu admissions, but they literally have no flu patients. Combine that with the data showing overall deaths are lower this year. We are doing fine against COVID as a society. If anything, we could take more risks.
Spread the love! Share the message! Take your mask off and BREATHE.
Cambridge tested their student body of 9000 students and got 9000 false positives....
Correct.
What a great example that doctors and nurses have completely abandoned independent thought for group think and TrUSt ThE ExPeRtS
There's a few fact checks out there that try to disprove the 90% false positive rate by saying "well hur durr they still technically HAD covid just not enough to justify that person going into lockdown or wearing a mask".
I think the sad and scary truth about "Fact Checks" is most sheep just read the headline and then go "ok this is a lie it was fact checked". No one gives a shit about context or information anymore they just want their instant gratification scoop of bullshit news.
Ya the fact checkers have a clear conflict of interest. They just link to their own outdated articles. Saying they still had covid after a false positive is a lie. They lie unflinchingly. The largest test done was the cambridge one. It is a legitimate professional medical study with reliable and repeatable results... They just lie whenever they want
What really got me was when I was looking up COVID statistics in my own state I checked the sources linked on google and one of them was a Chinese website. I just think it's funny China lied that it knew COVID existed and was spreading when it did and to top it off, they let it spread meanwhile we're supposed to trust them as a reliable source for statistical information regarding covid cases/deaths in the United States. Riiiight.
Source?
because the "test" machines are just like dominion voting machines - fake. probably just arduinos with a random number generator and a green light and a red light.
PCR is a legit process and has important uses, but even its inventor said it should not be used as a test for infectivity.
Very good post I appreciate it and I bookmarked and I will share
Thanks for sharing this information Frosty. Lots of great resources and links in here for people to research for themselves.
Pcr fulls positive is 3 to 5%, Testing rates are 5 to 6% so actual covert infection is less than 1%.
They have politicized our heath which is not good for our health.
At this point the Covid PCR tests are completely useless medically. I think it's higher than 50% asymptomatic results. Even at 50%, that's 50% completely asymptomatic and "rarely" transmitting any illness to even their closest contacts. By definition, that means perfectly healthy and a false positive test.
My 82yo mother has been sick for a week and believes she has covid symptoms. What medical purpose is there for her taking the test when the vast bulk of test results are false positive? They've got their testing regimes just backwards, intentionally. For all previous corona type virus outbreaks, the CDC had specific policies to test only suspected virus cases and people with high risk of getting the virus. In that pool of test results, the likelihood of false positives is lower. The likelihood of false negatives is higher.
They eliminated that policy with Covid. From the very get go, the national mantra, starting with Trump, has been to ramp up testing of a national pool of almost exclusively healthy people. That policy from the beginning has been to intentionally increase the false positivity rate and pour on the panic. It's been a very effective policy, and they're still increasing the numbers of tests. It's obviously a fraud. The PCR Covid tests are now completely useless for medical purposes.
I hope your mom feels better soon!
I think what is being missed here is that most are not saying it doesn't exist or doesn't kill. I think the point is that we have lived with deadly viruses throughout history. Influenza kills in a similar manner to china flu (if in doubt research any designated china flu symptom or long term effect and influenza is nearly identical), across a wider demographic, yet we don't collapse society for it. The china flu infection and death count numbers are suspect. They may be much higher than other viruses, they may not. Countering scientific opinions and numbers are censored. We feel for people who have lost their lives to any virus/disease, but we are seemingly being deceived on so many levels about the chinaflu. Beauracratic momentum is carrying our country and world toward an uncertain future, and being used for political gain. Attempted control of the masses is the goal. That is where the anger is coming from. How do we ever get out of this when no metrics, since day one, have been given to establish a return to normal society? It could be endless, which for some is their goal. We need to turn the tide against criminal beauracratic overreach and regain our personal freedoms and lives..
Just take a look at the Moderna vaccine study results. It really puts this into perspective.
30K participants (half given placebo), 196 symptomatic cases, 30 serious cases, 1 death.
You know that does somewhat connect the dots for me pretty clearly. I have been ranting to my friends that they never proved asymptomatic spread was a thing and that's the key to every lockdown tenet, that you have to be afraid of the seemingly healthy. The fact that pcr tests have been soooooooo wrong and mass mobilized (by fauci since the aids situation) as the key to proving if someone is infected or not is terrifying.
Exactly. This is basically the entire point of the post. They justify masking and locking down the entire population based on shitty overly sensitive PCR tests which apparently "prove" or support the idea that all of us who aren't even sick are asymptomatic carriers of COVID-19.
I always ask them why there's no bodies getting piled up in Wal-Marts and Amazon shipping centers. They can never answer that one.
Makes me wonder why they don't use other tests that don't require amplification such as ELISA or northblot. The error for the viral RNA concentration goes up exponentially for every amplification cycle.
Concentration of target is too low for ELISA and northern blots a and northern blot isn't something you'd do to do mass screenings. They are very labor intensive. I've been doing biomedical research for 20 years.
Regular pregnancies are just mini elisa tests. They do not have to be labour intensive.
Here are some test kits that are elisa based and other types of tests. Biorad as you know that is popular in the biomedical field has also developed an elisa kit. https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/resources/COVID-19/serology/Serology-based-tests-for-COVID-19.html#sec2
The tests have been progressed quite a bit 20 yrs ago from when you first started.
And the other 10% of swabs give the virus to person taking it
You’re completely right, but anything that still believes in the hoax isn’t gonna be swayed by anything
The line has been drawn
There’s them, and there’s us
Let them be them. Let them own it. They can’t be saved.
They’re a throw away generation
Wife tested positive.
Cleaned out our storage room, baked goodies all week, bought a car.
Ended up coming back negative on the second test.
Only danger was to beltline and wallet. The storage room is nice, though.
I think we should start a movement to expose the politicization and radical push for COVID fear mongering. It's equally as important for people to understand how overblown it has become as it is for them to understand the 2020 election was rigged and stolen. I think if people started to realize they were lied to about the medical necessity to strip them of their god given rights it would be a good start.
Might need some help from fellow pedes with this one, potentially looking at creating a list of all the Governors, Secretaries of state, as well as State Health Officers in all states that currently have lockdowns, curfews, or mask mandates.
The tests serve ONLY ONE PURPOSE: collecting our DNA.
I believe in my heart that our governor in Michigan mandated that labs do the PCR test here told them to do a cycle threshold over over 30. One scientist said that a cycle threshold over 25 is suspect.
According to Mandavilli, many coronavirus tests have fairly high cycle thresholds, with most set at 40 and some set at 37.
https://thedonald.win/p/11R4q3kKk4/oans-must-see-five-covid-studies/c/
COVID 19 is the disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 Corona virus. You can have the virus and not the disease. Like HPV and HIV they cause a disease but are not themselves a disease.
Correct, thanks for clarifying.
This is why I am against the Vaccine.
I am NOT anti-vax. And the few people I know who’ve had COVID tell me it’s the real-deal, made them feel like death, and are STILL feeling the aftermath of the virus (short of breath, constant fatigue, sense of smell all out of whack).
I just don’t understand how we can create a vaccine for a virus we cannot accurately test for.
Sum Ting Wong....
I am forced to sit at home now under quarantine as a result of a "positive" test. I am 8 days into the quarantine with absolutely no symptoms. I am in a "high risk" category and I still feel great. I take care of myself by taking large doses of vitamin D and refuse the flu shot.
Yep. This. Btw likely higher than 50%.
Wonder if a lot of the symptoms are a placebo effect - create a panic and make people think it's worse than it really is and people will believe they are sicker than they really are.
Not only that but demoralization. You cannot hug your family, stay six feet away from your friends, get in your home by 8:00pm or else. It's absolutely disgusting and I cannot imagine the psychological impact this will have on people if we allow it to continue.
This was their plan. Have Biden come in, change the rate, claim he defeated.
-Abraham Lincoln
Do you have a source for the 90% false positives?
So what about non-PCR tests? Those 15-minute drive-through clinic tests? Yeah, those aren't PCR.
Probably way more than 50%
Yep, we know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLCukIoduG8
50%
It's more like 80-85%
No Agenda Podcast has been all over this for at least the last 6 months, maybe since PCR started.
Best Podcast in the universe...constantly calling out the fake media.
https://www.noagendashow.net/
https://thedonald.win/p/4KCLejQ/rationale-for-not-testing-wuhan-/
https://youtu.be/2GmQVm-kLoM
This should help explain a little better.
Another way of wording it:
50% of people who technically "have" COVID-19 that are asymptomatic are very likely a result or biproduct of the 90% false positive testing. I will reiterate, the CDC has basically stopped reporting on the flu, all we have is COVID now? It doesn't add up.
Just because you don't understand the point I was making between the 2 statistics doesn't make it misinformation. I have done my own research and there are plenty of resources listed in this whole thread if you would like to further research it yourself.
Just a reminder false positive doesn't necessarily mean they didn't have any trace of COVID in them at all. It means the PCR test is so overly sensitive that you could show up positive for having corona virus, BUT the virus is most likely dead and non-communicable/not contagious at that point because on the very first US patient with COVID, an 18-20 PCR cycle test showed "high levels of the virus" after the 4th day of the patients illness even though they had extremely mild symptoms. That was just with 18-20 cycles now double that. That's why the tests are not reliable.
How does that math work? 90% false positives, but 50% have symptoms?
Don't just repeat everything you hear because it confirms your biases.
Think about it.
How the math works.
https://thedonald.win/p/4KCLejQ/rationale-for-not-testing-wuhan-/
Wow. Thank you.
Your math is spot on.
I had no idea.
Maybe you should read the title better. "ASYMPTOMATIC"
Yes. If 50% are asymptomatic, then 50% are symptomatic.
Dumbass. [Edit: This now refers to me.
The math works in ways I didn't expect.
Thank you Watermelons, for your breakdown!]
50% of people who the CDC and media CLAIM have COVID are ASYMPTOMATIC meaning showing no symptoms of having it. The reason for this is because MOST COVID TESTS ARE FALSE POSITIVES. People who are even slightly sick could test positive for corona. I'm showing the correlation WHY so many people who "HAVE COVID" are asymptomatic because the PCR tests are bullshit. If you cannot understand that then fuck off to another post.
I agree that most Covid tests are false positives. Not trying to argue that.
My complaint is only about the math.
If 50% are ASYMPTOMATIC, then 50% are SYMPTOMATIC.
If 90% of positive Covid tests results are false positives, then why do 50% of those false positives have Covid symptoms?
That's all I'm asking. How does that work?
A false positive does not just mean they didn't have COVID. It can also mean that any small traces of a virus in the 50% that is SYMPTOMATIC might not even have COVID, it could just be the flu or a cold which is apparently WIPED OUT according to the CDC. That's one of the points I'm making! These tests are extremely sensitive and inaccurate.
The main take away is the 50% of people who "HAVE COVID19" or TEST POSITIVE for covid19 but are asymptomatic most likely DO NOT have COVID or do not have enough of it in their system to actually infect others like the CDC and the media like to claim.
So, you think around 50% of the false positives (the ones that are symptomatic) are all suffering from cold or flu?
Are doctors really not testing for flu and rhinovirus?
I know the CDC is fucked and healthcare workers spend far too much time dancing like fucking idiots, but do you think the majority of doctors are that stupid / evil?
If so, the commie cancer has metastasized though our life support system.
That does not bode well.
I did not say that. I said in my post people who are symptomatic "might not even have COVID" which is not a baseless claim by any means considering the deliberate inaccuracy and over sensitivity of the testing.
I mean if you look around on here you can see doctors fake taking the vaccine. This commie cancer has been metastasizing for years unfortunately, the Chinese communist party leak even showed they have CCP agents working for Pfizer. They're literally embedded throughout our government, health care, big tech, etc, etc.