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jimboscott -11 points ago +6 / -17

I have no choice but to trust the FACTS.

Do you want the President to make a decision based upon something OTHER than the FACTS?

If so, you are basing actions on lies.

FACTS MATTER. And sadly, this place is full of gross misunderstandings and rumors that mask the effectiveness of the TRUTH.

I want TRUTH.

You?

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BritGroyper 11 points ago +12 / -1

We don't have "FACTS". The "official" numbers aren't facts. So your guess as to how many votes they each got is as good as anyone else's.

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jimboscott -4 points ago +7 / -11

My point is... too many people, Rudy Guiliani being one of them, are taking liberties with things. He may be doing it purposefully to gin up support. I don't know. But I DO know that many things stated, and mostly accepted as fact here and elsewhere, are not the full story. Here is another case in point.

The Fulton County video. This video is disturbing enough for the fact that counting was started up again after people were told it was shutting down. That is clear and irrefutable in the video.

BUT, when Rudy pointed out the 'hidden cases' under the draped tables... WOW! That was OBVIOUSLY a stash of ballot boxes that had been waiting there, HIDDEN all day long, for the right moment to pull them out while nobody could see it happen...

Problem is... Rudy did not show the video of that table between 10:01 p.m. and about 10:06 p.m. That was when, with observers still in the room... the boxes were seen being placed under that table.

The whole PROOF of being HIDDEN.... POOF.... gone.

How many here KNOW that this is a fact? I venture to say less than 10% here know this to be true.

So, we get all hyped up on some conjecture, use THAT as the focal point of our argument... then go down in fucking FLAMES while... had we just used what WAS true (but not as spectacular) we would get a lot more done.

It's been this way with a lot of things.

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Madmanmp 1 point ago +1 / -0

You saw the missing 5 minutes of video? Can you please provide link to said video and bring PROOF! Dont just TELL me it happened or youre no better than the other "Nonfact" folks on here. And you mentioned one instance that ONLY you have seen! Let's do the others now. Disprove those for us. Show us were FACTS prove we're wrong and there was no evidence. Hey Dominion has never worked with SolarWinds right? Facts, the CEO said so. The FACT is you're just as hyperbole yourself.