HCQ is commonly used long term to treat auto-immune diseases. This has been true for many years.
The vaccine supposedly works by injecting RNA into your cells, causing them to manufacture a "spike" protein similar to what covid does. Your immune system then learns to efficiently attack the cells with the spikes. So, the vaccine is literally causing an auto-immune response. The claim is that the RNA only sticks around for so long (probably because your immune system kills the cells that absorbed it).
Traditional vaccines work by injecting a version of the virus that can't replicate much if at all. Your immune system can optimize for killing it without normal cells getting infected and dying I'm the process. I'm not a doctor, but it seems like it could be risky tricking your immune system into optimizing for killing mostly normal cells, i.e. developing an auto-immune disorder.
COVID-19 is real, and it is nasty. 30% of the people hospitalized with it have lasting lung or kidney damage.
Meanwhile, the States are maximizing the numbers of deaths by testing symptomatic people, finding out they have COVID-19, and sending them home, untreated.
We have viable outpatient therapies that are cheap and readily available, and unless you have your own, co-operative physician, or you have the wherewithal to figure out an over-the-counter workaround, you can't get them.
Lung damage from the improperly implemented ventilators and the kidney damage from the blood problems that come with the improper prescribing of the ventilators on people who dont need them. Please be more informed.
It is real, and it is nasty to some individuals. But the reality is that the vast majority of people who get it will never even know they had it. Also, certain factors such as age and other disease significantly increase your odds of being affected if you get it.
Looking at the data and if you’re under 50 and healthy the vaccine probably poses much more risk to you than the virus. People should be informed and free to choose their own risk tolerance and approach.
Nearing? 3k out of 100k is 3%. The covid death rate is about 0.03% unless you've got a lot of comorbidities. It's 100x higher.
To be fair, death is a lot worse than a "health impacting event" and people are lazy af these days so they might be exaggerating their cases to get more sick days. It's still a shitty vaccine.
“Side Effects From the COVID-19 Vaccine Won’t Be a ‘Walk in the Park,’ Doctors Warn”
Minimum day off required after second dose?!
“If this proves to work, people are going to have to toughen up,” she said. “The first dose is no big deal. And then the second dose will definitely put you down for the day for sure. … You will need to take a day off after the second dose.”
One experienced a cardiac arrest 62 days after vaccination #2 and died 3 days later, and the other died from arteriosclerosis 3 days after vaccination #1.”
A mild fever the next day will count as a health impact event. Which is very common with all vaccines. Until details of what they are reporting it’s safe to assume it’s normal next day vaccine icky feelings. Vaccines cause immune responses. Immune responses tend to make you fatigued and not feel great. That normally only lasts a day or two with a vaccine.
Saying we’ve had a fairly decent sized trials already and the current response is directly in line with what the trials showed. I think it’s pretty safe to assume that things will go in line, at least mostly, with the trials.
And In the trials, people died, got bella palsy, fainted, plus a million other side effects. So "going in line," with the trials is not necessarily a good thing
Not any more than happens anyway I’m the general public though. With a large enough trial you will guarantee to have a death and some of these other things. They happen to people everyday. If you get a large enough group you will catch stuff that would happen anyway. You have to compare the number with general public numbers to see if it’s because of the trial or just in line with norm. If it’s in line with norm you ignore it.
Because a pharma company would never tweak trial data where there is a ton of money on the line and they have zero liability (it has been done before).
I'mm sure the trials for Vioxx, DES and thalmadhide all showed they were safe too...just to name a few. This from the unethical industry who brought us the opioid epidemic. Not to mention mRNA technology, a brand new technology.
I'm not concerned about short term effects, I'm concerned about what this does in the long run...all for a disease with a 99.7+% survival rate. Look, I'm fine if people want to take this and I wish them the best, but I will protect my right to bodily integrity to my dying breath.
Fuck you. No one here is getting that piece of shit vaccine. Please go sterilize yourself with it however. Hopefully your face doesn't paralyze or you die from the first second third fourth shot from this year. But since the virus mutates every fifteen minutes, you'll need many many many shots over the course of the rest of your life
We need more data of course. But what if many of these people have lifelong issues now from this vaccine? There's just no way to know at this point. Not worth the risk in my opinion unless you're very old or very high risk.
In my opinion it's not even worth the risk if you are very old or have other health issues. They intentionally included old people and other high risk groups in the Moderna vaccine trial and out of over 30,0000 participants there were only 30 serious cases and only one person died of the virus.
Sure there is no way to know. But we aren’t exactly stupid. We can have a pretty good idea about the risk of long term issues. And frankly there isn’t any reason to believe there will be long term issues. Not knowing for sure about something isn’t the same as that thing being likely.
We know that having antibodies to the spike protein doesn’t cause long term issues. And the vaccine is only producing a protein similar to that. It’s not using any of the other proteins within Covid that we do know causes issues. For instance the scare about fertility issues is not caused from the spike protein. They know specifically which proteins cause that and they aren’t being utilized in this vaccine.
Of course no one should get the vaccine unless they feel it’s safe. But it’s false to be making claims about it causing long term issues when there is currently 0 data to even hint of that being a problem.
It wouldn’t be wrong to say we haven’t fully tested it yet but that’s not what many people here are doing. I’ve been a trump supporter from day 1 and I find the doom and gloom that’s popped up since we left Reddit to be disturbing.
Just because someone makes a claim doesn’t mean it’s credible, it’s just more fake news. We need to insulate ourselves from fake news even fake news we want to believe.
Wow- just wow. Look, pregnant women and women discussing their in laws on reddit have ALWAYS been entitled, selfish, hypocritical, and awful. I visited there with positive expectations when I was first pregnant and it was horrible and bitter. Thank God I found the_donald dom and spent my pregnancy on there lol.
However no matter how awful precovid stuff was this is next level. The circlejerking and shaming is outrageous. Pathetic
"I’ve been thinking about this. When we were pregnant, told our friends and family at 6 weeks so that they could make safer decisions so we could still participate in our small bubble safely. Long story short my parents are Canadian anti masker trumpet Covid hoax Qltists so it didn’t go over well. I think the stress led to our miscarriage. BUT I still would do the same thing. People around me need to either take it seriously or there will be consequences (ie we wouldn’t be able to see my parents at all while pregnant, next round soon hopefully)."
Just a snippet for those not wanting to dig through reddit stupidity
Anyone not dressed in a hazmat suit is a trumper Qltist apparently lol
Edit: they are all like this, they cut off their entire family over any perceived thing- someone could look at them wrong. One girl was considering not going to her grandfathers funeral because her brother called to ask if she was going and didn’t ask how she was postpartum. She was applauded by almost anyone and anyone in disagreement or defending her brother was shamed
I believe the person above was quoting someone from the covid pregnancy sub reddit who had a miscarriage. Those are beautiful sentiments and hope they can help someone ❤️ Fortunately I am very blessed that my pregnancy spend on t_d resulted in a healthy baby pede
^Underrated comment. Everyone getting the vaccine right now are guinea pigs. In two years the study will be considered complete, and even then they will only tell you what they want you to know.
For now. They're prepping people for the impending programming that will make it required. If you don't believe they'll keep infringing on our rights any chance they get then you've been asleep the past year.
I've heard them say shit like - until EVERYONE has taken the vaccine, life will not go back to normal. They are holding hostage the normal way of life in order to bully people into taking it. Spoiler alert - even if everyone takes it, they will not allow life to go back to normal. Absolute power is a helluva drug.
Politics is downstream from culture. The media, celebrities...they are all calling for it. Their blind followers all jump on board. It's just a matter of time...
CDC owns patents on at least 57 different vaccines, and profits $4.1 billion per year in vaccination sales.Tthe CDC is not an independent government agency but is actually a subsidiary of Big Pharma. Do not trust the CDC.
I've also read this, but don't have a source handy. But one thing I learned is that the CDC operates as a public-private partnership via their CDC Foundation. See partners below. I've read the pharma companies donate heavily. This has been written about and well-researched over the years, but not by the MSM (because their pharma advertisers threaten to pull ad revenue if MSM writes negatively about them). Also, the revolving door btwn CDC/industry is the WORST (Julie Gerberding comes to mind). The CDC is every bit the cesspool that the FBI, CIA, etc are...but Americans trust them. They are worse because they are allowing children to be harmed while enriching themselves. (research Poul Thorsen wanted by the FBI; William Thompson whistleblower; Simpsonwood Documents). One big problem with the MSM coverage is they are beholden to ad revenue ever since the US allowed drug companies to advertise directly to consumers (which only 1 other country in the world allows). The MSM will NEVER bite the hand that feeds them. I personally think all the pharma ads are not so much to sell the drugs as they are to control the narrative. Sharyl Attkisson has done GREAT work on pharma & vaccine controversies.
Sources:
"Robert F. Kennedy Jr. claims the CDC owns patents on at least 57 different vaccines, and profits $4.1 billion per year in vaccination sales. According to RFK Jr., the CDC is not an independent government agency but is actually a subsidiary of Big Pharma."
https://goldenageofgaia.com/2018/12/07/robert-kennedy-jr-cdc-is-a-privately-owned-vaccine-company/https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/cdc-is-a-private-organization-not-government/https://banned.video/watch?id=5e9a24e246289200c868e358
From the articles:
Kennedy: “The CDC is a very troubled agency, and it’s not just me saying that. There have been four separate, intensive federal investigations by the United States Congress—a three year investigation, 2001, 2002, 2003, by the United States Senate, Tom Coburn’s committee, by the Inspector General of HHS in 2008, by the Office Integrity in 2014. All of them have painted the CDC as a cesspool of corruption, of an agency that has become an absolute subsidiary of the pharmaceutical industry, and that has become a sock puppet, a spokesperson, a shill for the industry. CDC is not an independent agency. It is a vaccine company. CDC owns over twenty vaccine patents. It sells about $4.6 billion of vaccines every year. And its primary metric for success in all the departments in the agency are vaccine sales. The groups, for example the Immunization Safety Office, where the scientists who are supposed to be looking at efficacy and safety in vaccines, they are no longer a public service…agency.” They are sales reps. WAKE UP.
I'm pro Vax and I will not take this vaccine there are certain things you just don't rush. Besides the polio method is better in these circumstances anyway
There is a great book called "Dissolving Illusions" that goes into great detail on polio vax, and others. Very well cited. If you can find the polio chapter online, it is worth a read. To end the pandemic, health authorities changed the definition of polio. I think with COVID, when health authorities are ready to end the pandemic, they will switch to less sensitive tests and poof, this pandemic will be over and the vaccine will get the credit.
Young people have started getting shingles, when that used to be just an old people things. I’ve run into a number of people in their 20s that had it.
I actually think it is because of the chicken pox vaccine. The generations that got it naturally don’t seem to get shingles so early. Something doesn’t seem to be working correctly.
Either that, or young people have crap immune systems compared to young people of a few decades ago.
They give it to you in the military if you have to travel to a third world area. I was sick for two weeks and have a scar from all the shots they forced me to take when my ship toured South America.
Well most have years of testing behind them and an ingredient list thats been available for the public for years. Most are safe as they can be. One thing people tend to forget most vaccines are made to contain the dead form of the virus. This allows the body to lern how identify the virus which is necessary as most viruses blend in so well it takes forever for you're body to identify them. The moment your body knows what to look for it can actually develop a strategy to fight back. Thus immunity. Vaccines are good just do your research and ask which vaccines your doctor's giving you and ask for ones that are known to actually work.
mRNA is the equiv of letting a nerd write a script for your cells. Sorry, I'll pass on getting programmed by some geek ass lab coat, there are no hot fixes or service packs updates for my cells.
Here is the excipient list. Many contain known carcinogens (i.e., formaldehyde), known neurotoxins (i.e., aluminum phosphate which travels to the brain), and DNA from aborted fetuses or other species (MRC-5 human diploid cells, WI-38 human diploid lung fibroblasts). Not to mention contaminates like glyphosate and the SV-40 debacle. If you think the FBI is corrupt, the CDC is well beyond....yet the public trusts them for some inexplicable reason.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf
I've done my own research. Its clear that I don't agree with some of ya'll but that's more than ok. I'm going to agree to disagree. After all we have much bigger fish to fry.
Twins (if it happened to only 1) makes me think maybe they experimented on him. And about "vaccines," Alex said that the male blood brain barrier is 1/2 or 1/3 as good as a female's so it's easier for the enemy to target boys (the main defense of a country). And most autism cases are in boys, and by 2030 one of five are projected to be autistic. Surprising that many people aren't concerned.
That translates to 2.8% but that's not accurate, because the effects come out a day or two later, as is evident in this chart. So it's probably closer to 7%
That's what I recall hearing. The first one made you feel mildly unwell while the second one would require you to take a week off of work if you were a healthy person. Be very interesting to see these numbers for the second dose due on the 18th (if we aren't all distracted with other happenings).
The fact that there are women that are currently pregnant that are willing to take this vaccine speaks volumes. You’re literally giving your unborn child no choice in the matter
This seals it, this is eugenics 2.0. This is going to be an extinction level event for all the dim bulbs in the gene pool. We used to try to protect the mentally handicapped in society. Now we let them make their own medical decisions based on bullshit.
I remember reading about how 'artificial wombs' can take away the 'burden' of pregnancy. Now if this vax does interfere with placenta production, only people with access to healthcare and the right social credit score will get access to artificial wombs in the future (assuming they move forward with 100% compliance with this vax). Reminds me of the thalidomide disaster and DES. We plebs are nothing but lab rabbits to these people.
Is everyone aware that if you're a healthcare worker and "don't feel good" after the shot you can take up to a week off and still get paid your normal hourly rate for the week. It is being paid for by the feds/states! Another scam.
With the exception of those who currently shit on us, NO ONE on this planet can perform daily activities because of MUH FUCKIN COVID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Downvote me if you want. I got the vaccine. I am older and I lived to tell about it. I have no side effects. Remember that hospitals are paying workers sick time, that they can claim if they have a supposed reaction. I call it BS. People got vaccine then take a few paid days off to do their holiday shopping- nice timing for them.
It was an mRNA vaccine and when did you get it? It takes a few months for the RNA replication to reach half of the cellular division within the body. This is what is potentially controversial are the unknown long term effects, in both cellular division critical points and reinfection immune responses. The issue here is that it doesn't give you immunity, you still have to isolate/social distance/wear masks, and it "wears off" within a few months requiring further injections....all while having a 3% chance of incurring side effects for a virus with a survivability rate of 99.8%.
well, I am not going to follow those so called recommendations! I may have had previous exposure to the virus, but never had antibodies. And I believe I have some level of immunity, but I am not prepared to live life cowering and not seeing my relatives. The vaccine after one dose is supposed to confer greater immunity than the annual flu shot. I am not worried about side effects. I am more worried about the mental health side effects of being isolated and living behind a mask forever.
Yup. Enjoy that debilitating autoimmune disorder
And then be on HCQ the rest of your life. The irony
I’m not up to speed on this - any links you could share?
It works. The AMA recently rescinded their fear mongering so docs under a fake/hoped pedo joe admin can start treating patients with it outpatient.
Been used for 65 years for Malaria and it helps autoimmune disorders such as Lupus
Half a million infantry in 'Nam had to take it.
HCQ is commonly used long term to treat auto-immune diseases. This has been true for many years.
The vaccine supposedly works by injecting RNA into your cells, causing them to manufacture a "spike" protein similar to what covid does. Your immune system then learns to efficiently attack the cells with the spikes. So, the vaccine is literally causing an auto-immune response. The claim is that the RNA only sticks around for so long (probably because your immune system kills the cells that absorbed it).
Traditional vaccines work by injecting a version of the virus that can't replicate much if at all. Your immune system can optimize for killing it without normal cells getting infected and dying I'm the process. I'm not a doctor, but it seems like it could be risky tricking your immune system into optimizing for killing mostly normal cells, i.e. developing an auto-immune disorder.
https://c19study.com/
underrated comment
Now do "HIV".
I enjoy mine every day :-(
So become a socialist?
Only a socialist will "take" the vaxxine.
HOLY SHIT. These "health impacting events" are nearing the % of people that were DYING from covid.
3% of infected are not dying from C19. It is less.
I would like a breakdown of what those effects are.
So the numbers are approximately:
3.0% are debilitated from the vaccine 0.3% are killed by covid (if they get it)
0.1% would be killed by covid (assuming a 1/3 infection rate)
Hell those odds are still better than the 68%+ failure rate of Dominion
COVID-19 is real, and it is nasty. 30% of the people hospitalized with it have lasting lung or kidney damage.
Meanwhile, the States are maximizing the numbers of deaths by testing symptomatic people, finding out they have COVID-19, and sending them home, untreated.
We have viable outpatient therapies that are cheap and readily available, and unless you have your own, co-operative physician, or you have the wherewithal to figure out an over-the-counter workaround, you can't get them.
Lung damage from the improperly implemented ventilators and the kidney damage from the blood problems that come with the improper prescribing of the ventilators on people who dont need them. Please be more informed.
It is real, and it is nasty to some individuals. But the reality is that the vast majority of people who get it will never even know they had it. Also, certain factors such as age and other disease significantly increase your odds of being affected if you get it.
Looking at the data and if you’re under 50 and healthy the vaccine probably poses much more risk to you than the virus. People should be informed and free to choose their own risk tolerance and approach.
Until the breakdown I’m gonna assume all 3% are deaths.
Nearing? 3k out of 100k is 3%. The covid death rate is about 0.03% unless you've got a lot of comorbidities. It's 100x higher.
To be fair, death is a lot worse than a "health impacting event" and people are lazy af these days so they might be exaggerating their cases to get more sick days. It's still a shitty vaccine.
Tell that to the lady with oozing feet sores.
“Side Effects From the COVID-19 Vaccine Won’t Be a ‘Walk in the Park,’ Doctors Warn”
Minimum day off required after second dose?!
“If this proves to work, people are going to have to toughen up,” she said. “The first dose is no big deal. And then the second dose will definitely put you down for the day for sure. … You will need to take a day off after the second dose.”
https://harbingersdaily.com/side-effects-from-the-covid-19-vaccine-wont-be-a-walk-in-the-park-doctors-warn/
Fda says watch for Bell Palsy
handful of trial participants got the condition, which causes half of your face to droop.
https://www.prophecynewswatch.com/article.cfm?recent_news_id=4459
Nurse passes out during interview immediately after taking
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/watch-nurse-passes-live-television-taking-coronavirus-vaccine/
FDA working list of possible side effects. Circa dec 8th
https://i.maga.host/6ga2Sqf.png
Side effects https://science.sciencemag.org/content/370/6520/1022
Oozing feet sores https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/11/nteb-exclusive-volunteer-in-pfizer-biontech-partnership-of-covid-1984-coronavirus-vaccine-trials-develops-grievous-sores-on-both-her-feet/
Killed God https://christendtimeministries.com/astrazeneca-halts-covid-19-vaccine-trials-after-second-volunteer-develops-neurological-problems/
(Doubt this? Bill Gates didn’t when he pitched it to Darpa)
Fun vac https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qmQwTJnKKZ8
transverse myelitis? Side effect of vaccine
https://endpts.com/a-top-covid-19-vaccine-developer-halts-phiii-dosing-to-probe-cause-of-an-unexpected-illness/
70% sterilization https://healthandmoneynews.wordpress.com/2020/12/02/head-of-pfizer-research-covid-vaccine-is-female-sterilization/
Birth control vaccine
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320641479_HCG_Found_in_WHO_Tetanus_Vaccine_in_Kenya_Raises_Concern_in_the_Developing_World
Pick and choose who mates
Sterilizing “virus” makes life. Lots of evolution propganda http://isciencemag.co.uk/features/the-syncytin-gene-viruses-responsible-for-human-life/
Anaplactic shock
Anaphylaxis is a rare but expected potential side effect that is treatable and does not have long term health implications like Covid.
https://archive.vn/rR472
Death after dose #2
One experienced a cardiac arrest 62 days after vaccination #2 and died 3 days later, and the other died from arteriosclerosis 3 days after vaccination #1.”
https://healthandmoneynews.wordpress.com/2020/12/08/breaking-fda-announces-2-deaths-of-pfizer-vaccine-trial-participants-from-serious-adverse-events/
I thought the exact same thing
A mild fever the next day will count as a health impact event. Which is very common with all vaccines. Until details of what they are reporting it’s safe to assume it’s normal next day vaccine icky feelings. Vaccines cause immune responses. Immune responses tend to make you fatigued and not feel great. That normally only lasts a day or two with a vaccine.
By definition, this is an EXPERIMENTAL vaccine. It is not "safe to assume" anything at this point.
Saying we’ve had a fairly decent sized trials already and the current response is directly in line with what the trials showed. I think it’s pretty safe to assume that things will go in line, at least mostly, with the trials.
And In the trials, people died, got bella palsy, fainted, plus a million other side effects. So "going in line," with the trials is not necessarily a good thing
Not any more than happens anyway I’m the general public though. With a large enough trial you will guarantee to have a death and some of these other things. They happen to people everyday. If you get a large enough group you will catch stuff that would happen anyway. You have to compare the number with general public numbers to see if it’s because of the trial or just in line with norm. If it’s in line with norm you ignore it.
Because a pharma company would never tweak trial data where there is a ton of money on the line and they have zero liability (it has been done before). I'mm sure the trials for Vioxx, DES and thalmadhide all showed they were safe too...just to name a few. This from the unethical industry who brought us the opioid epidemic. Not to mention mRNA technology, a brand new technology. I'm not concerned about short term effects, I'm concerned about what this does in the long run...all for a disease with a 99.7+% survival rate. Look, I'm fine if people want to take this and I wish them the best, but I will protect my right to bodily integrity to my dying breath.
Fuck you. No one here is getting that piece of shit vaccine. Please go sterilize yourself with it however. Hopefully your face doesn't paralyze or you die from the first second third fourth shot from this year. But since the virus mutates every fifteen minutes, you'll need many many many shots over the course of the rest of your life
We need more data of course. But what if many of these people have lifelong issues now from this vaccine? There's just no way to know at this point. Not worth the risk in my opinion unless you're very old or very high risk.
In my opinion it's not even worth the risk if you are very old or have other health issues. They intentionally included old people and other high risk groups in the Moderna vaccine trial and out of over 30,0000 participants there were only 30 serious cases and only one person died of the virus.
I'll take my chances with the virus.
Sure there is no way to know. But we aren’t exactly stupid. We can have a pretty good idea about the risk of long term issues. And frankly there isn’t any reason to believe there will be long term issues. Not knowing for sure about something isn’t the same as that thing being likely.
We know that having antibodies to the spike protein doesn’t cause long term issues. And the vaccine is only producing a protein similar to that. It’s not using any of the other proteins within Covid that we do know causes issues. For instance the scare about fertility issues is not caused from the spike protein. They know specifically which proteins cause that and they aren’t being utilized in this vaccine.
Of course no one should get the vaccine unless they feel it’s safe. But it’s false to be making claims about it causing long term issues when there is currently 0 data to even hint of that being a problem.
It wouldn’t be wrong to say we haven’t fully tested it yet but that’s not what many people here are doing. I’ve been a trump supporter from day 1 and I find the doom and gloom that’s popped up since we left Reddit to be disturbing.
Just because someone makes a claim doesn’t mean it’s credible, it’s just more fake news. We need to insulate ourselves from fake news even fake news we want to believe.
You are correct. Thanks for your input!
It's hard to read from the tweet, so I went to the CDC website. Here is the definition of health impact event:
Correct a mild fever would be that for anyone right now. Since a fever means you are supposed to stay home.
The health impact is 1000x greater than Covid mortality rate
That's 2.8% right there! Wow.
They are exceeding it. In Moderna's own vaccine study only one person died of COVID out of over 30,000 participants. One death.
Why the fuck are pregnant women taking an experimental vaccine?
Ohh sir... On that other website there is a whole subreddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/CoronaBumpers
Its hilarious the sheep in there. I lost the thread about women saying they will take it so their baby can have the antibodies
Wow- just wow. Look, pregnant women and women discussing their in laws on reddit have ALWAYS been entitled, selfish, hypocritical, and awful. I visited there with positive expectations when I was first pregnant and it was horrible and bitter. Thank God I found the_donald dom and spent my pregnancy on there lol.
However no matter how awful precovid stuff was this is next level. The circlejerking and shaming is outrageous. Pathetic
"I’ve been thinking about this. When we were pregnant, told our friends and family at 6 weeks so that they could make safer decisions so we could still participate in our small bubble safely. Long story short my parents are Canadian anti masker trumpet Covid hoax Qltists so it didn’t go over well. I think the stress led to our miscarriage. BUT I still would do the same thing. People around me need to either take it seriously or there will be consequences (ie we wouldn’t be able to see my parents at all while pregnant, next round soon hopefully)."
Just a snippet for those not wanting to dig through reddit stupidity
Anyone not dressed in a hazmat suit is a trumper Qltist apparently lol
Edit: they are all like this, they cut off their entire family over any perceived thing- someone could look at them wrong. One girl was considering not going to her grandfathers funeral because her brother called to ask if she was going and didn’t ask how she was postpartum. She was applauded by almost anyone and anyone in disagreement or defending her brother was shamed
I believe the person above was quoting someone from the covid pregnancy sub reddit who had a miscarriage. Those are beautiful sentiments and hope they can help someone ❤️ Fortunately I am very blessed that my pregnancy spend on t_d resulted in a healthy baby pede
Wrong that they’re all like this? Maybe there’s a few that aren’t- but idk how they stand to stay there
Just visited that subreddit and oh my god are those people retarded
That is this most fear filled pile of sbit I've ever seen.
Why not just get the actual China virus if they want the antibodies?
Because a vaccine is safer you bigot!!!! (Sarcasm again)
Now show me proof of vaccination or you can never see your grandbaby
Just when I thought I couldn't have a lower opinion of humanity.
Especially since the H1N1 vaccine was said to have caused miscarriages.
Especially since rushed vaccines are most likely not tested on pregnant women lol.
What do you mean? They’re testing it on the right now...
^Underrated comment. Everyone getting the vaccine right now are guinea pigs. In two years the study will be considered complete, and even then they will only tell you what they want you to know.
That's why I used the past tense.
I know two women who miscarried that year--one at 8 months.
Some of them are legit excited about it. Darwinism I guess
They love abortion so honestly this all makes sense.
Single women.
No way a man would let his wife do that shit.
May I present to you...
https://thedonald.win/p/11R4ulXQ9q/
Well if I was married and my husband tried to get me to get this damn vaccine..
I would have to come clean and say the baby ain’t his. Fucking cuck.
And they want this to be MANDITORY? This is some seriously evil diabolical shit!
Nah realistically speaking this data stops them from making it mandatory. If everyone rushed to get it hospitals would collapse.
Seriously who is calling for this to be mandatory? I haven’t seen anyone in an actual position of authority calling for that
Michigan Democrat rep. Just introduced bills this week. I’m moving to Florida dammit.
Bills are just bills most of the time. And they almost always have loopholes. Sorry to hear about your newly discovered history of allergic reactions
For now. They're prepping people for the impending programming that will make it required. If you don't believe they'll keep infringing on our rights any chance they get then you've been asleep the past year.
I just don’t think they can pull it off, normies aren’t even scared of covid anymore. I don’t know anyone who plans on taking this crap
I don't want draconian laws with loopholes. How about no draconian laws period.
What are you doing to stop it
You just did what a leftist does. You challenged him, he replied with proof, and now you're moving the goalpost. Cmon bro.
You’re right. We came up with a grand total of 1 person. Sorry.
Bills are bills until they become law and most the time, they do become law.
Less than 5% of bills become law
For the faggot that downvoted you (and anyone else considering it) that is too fucking ignorant to know how to search the internet:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-vast-majority-of-bill_n_268630
"Only Four Percent Of Bills Become Law"
Fucking dumb cunts.
I've heard them say shit like - until EVERYONE has taken the vaccine, life will not go back to normal. They are holding hostage the normal way of life in order to bully people into taking it. Spoiler alert - even if everyone takes it, they will not allow life to go back to normal. Absolute power is a helluva drug.
This is why after 1.6.21 we need to then spread out and take back control of state legislatures and government.
Tyrants MUST be REMOVED.
Start paying attention then. You being ignorant is no ones problem but your own.
I am, it’s just media shills that are calling for that. My company already said there’s no way they could force anyone to get it
Your COMPANY will NOT be giving it to you.
A representative from the local health dept will arrive with TWO Sheriff's Deputies. You will accept their poison or be arrested.
YOU NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.
I’ll take things that’ll never happen for $800 Alex
Politics is downstream from culture. The media, celebrities...they are all calling for it. Their blind followers all jump on board. It's just a matter of time...
It’s fun to pretend the sky is falling, but they aren’t gonna be able to pull it off
I'm starting to think you're just harvesting downvotes for the heck of it?
Actually a little
My employer's suggested it being a possibility.
What industry
Security.
Look it's super safe. Stop questioning things and just obey authority
When do I get to sew the star on my shirt.
Sorry, we're going straight to the tattoos this time
O B E Y
Of course
Nope, it’s a COVID-21 death. Obviously, that will mean our only hope is communism.
Yes because they'll say you didn't get the 2nd, 3rd, 4th booster shot so you weren't immune.
CDC owns patents on at least 57 different vaccines, and profits $4.1 billion per year in vaccination sales.Tthe CDC is not an independent government agency but is actually a subsidiary of Big Pharma. Do not trust the CDC.
I've also read this, but don't have a source handy. But one thing I learned is that the CDC operates as a public-private partnership via their CDC Foundation. See partners below. I've read the pharma companies donate heavily. This has been written about and well-researched over the years, but not by the MSM (because their pharma advertisers threaten to pull ad revenue if MSM writes negatively about them). Also, the revolving door btwn CDC/industry is the WORST (Julie Gerberding comes to mind). The CDC is every bit the cesspool that the FBI, CIA, etc are...but Americans trust them. They are worse because they are allowing children to be harmed while enriching themselves. (research Poul Thorsen wanted by the FBI; William Thompson whistleblower; Simpsonwood Documents). One big problem with the MSM coverage is they are beholden to ad revenue ever since the US allowed drug companies to advertise directly to consumers (which only 1 other country in the world allows). The MSM will NEVER bite the hand that feeds them. I personally think all the pharma ads are not so much to sell the drugs as they are to control the narrative. Sharyl Attkisson has done GREAT work on pharma & vaccine controversies.
https://www.cdcfoundation.org/partner-list/corporations
Sources: "Robert F. Kennedy Jr. claims the CDC owns patents on at least 57 different vaccines, and profits $4.1 billion per year in vaccination sales. According to RFK Jr., the CDC is not an independent government agency but is actually a subsidiary of Big Pharma." https://goldenageofgaia.com/2018/12/07/robert-kennedy-jr-cdc-is-a-privately-owned-vaccine-company/ https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/cdc-is-a-private-organization-not-government/ https://banned.video/watch?id=5e9a24e246289200c868e358 From the articles: Kennedy: “The CDC is a very troubled agency, and it’s not just me saying that. There have been four separate, intensive federal investigations by the United States Congress—a three year investigation, 2001, 2002, 2003, by the United States Senate, Tom Coburn’s committee, by the Inspector General of HHS in 2008, by the Office Integrity in 2014. All of them have painted the CDC as a cesspool of corruption, of an agency that has become an absolute subsidiary of the pharmaceutical industry, and that has become a sock puppet, a spokesperson, a shill for the industry. CDC is not an independent agency. It is a vaccine company. CDC owns over twenty vaccine patents. It sells about $4.6 billion of vaccines every year. And its primary metric for success in all the departments in the agency are vaccine sales. The groups, for example the Immunization Safety Office, where the scientists who are supposed to be looking at efficacy and safety in vaccines, they are no longer a public service…agency.” They are sales reps. WAKE UP.
I'm pro Vax and I will not take this vaccine there are certain things you just don't rush. Besides the polio method is better in these circumstances anyway
At this point I don't know if we can trust any vaccines.
If they can't use this one why wouldn't they use another?
There is a great book called "Dissolving Illusions" that goes into great detail on polio vax, and others. Very well cited. If you can find the polio chapter online, it is worth a read. To end the pandemic, health authorities changed the definition of polio. I think with COVID, when health authorities are ready to end the pandemic, they will switch to less sensitive tests and poof, this pandemic will be over and the vaccine will get the credit.
The Bill Gates polio "vaccine" has apparently given more people polio than those getting it naturally.
Young people have started getting shingles, when that used to be just an old people things. I’ve run into a number of people in their 20s that had it.
I actually think it is because of the chicken pox vaccine. The generations that got it naturally don’t seem to get shingles so early. Something doesn’t seem to be working correctly.
Either that, or young people have crap immune systems compared to young people of a few decades ago.
I don’t think they give small pox anymore
They give it to you in the military if you have to travel to a third world area. I was sick for two weeks and have a scar from all the shots they forced me to take when my ship toured South America.
I think only the military may still get it. Interesting side note.https://www.cbsnews.com/news/boy-infected-by-fathers-army-vaccine/
Oh ok, yeah that is probably true. I think the pneumoncoccal one is another one on the baddy list
Well most have years of testing behind them and an ingredient list thats been available for the public for years. Most are safe as they can be. One thing people tend to forget most vaccines are made to contain the dead form of the virus. This allows the body to lern how identify the virus which is necessary as most viruses blend in so well it takes forever for you're body to identify them. The moment your body knows what to look for it can actually develop a strategy to fight back. Thus immunity. Vaccines are good just do your research and ask which vaccines your doctor's giving you and ask for ones that are known to actually work.
I doubt the anti-vaxx people are opposed to vaccines because they are ignorant of how they work.
mRNA is the equiv of letting a nerd write a script for your cells. Sorry, I'll pass on getting programmed by some geek ass lab coat, there are no hot fixes or service packs updates for my cells.
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Here is the excipient list. Many contain known carcinogens (i.e., formaldehyde), known neurotoxins (i.e., aluminum phosphate which travels to the brain), and DNA from aborted fetuses or other species (MRC-5 human diploid cells, WI-38 human diploid lung fibroblasts). Not to mention contaminates like glyphosate and the SV-40 debacle. If you think the FBI is corrupt, the CDC is well beyond....yet the public trusts them for some inexplicable reason. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf
Thats why you research it
Please look up the "Valuetainment" video of Robert Kennedy debating Alan Dirshawitz. I promise you will learn a LOT!
I've done my own research. Its clear that I don't agree with some of ya'll but that's more than ok. I'm going to agree to disagree. After all we have much bigger fish to fry.
I've done my research as well. And I still learned a LOT from that debate.
There is no reason to get this unless you are over 75 or have some type of health issue.
I stopped reading before the word unless.
Seems like the vaccine also causes health issues. Even if I were old and crusty I'd still let the communists be guinea pigs anyway.
Personally I'd be LESS inclined to get the vaccine at that age.
So, a 1 in 38 chance of the Bells Palsy.
Hard pass.
Testing in real time. It's like russian roulette, just with an "unborn" person instead of an already born person.,
Reminds me of thalidomide vs ginger. And some of the victims passed on their deformities to their kids.
Have I got a treat for you....!
https://thedonald.win/p/11R4ulXQ9q/
You're wrong! It's actually about 5000 to date.
Src?
The numbers are not cumulative, seems to be for each day/batch that the vaccine was taken a certain number have difficulties.
How did you determine that?
Roger that.
Alex talked about the HPV "vaccine" basically sterilizing girls. Probably gradually, slow boiling the frog.
I’m so sorry. Do you know which one it was?
When is that one given? What was he like up until that point? I’m sorry to ask, but I have young kids
Twins (if it happened to only 1) makes me think maybe they experimented on him. And about "vaccines," Alex said that the male blood brain barrier is 1/2 or 1/3 as good as a female's so it's easier for the enemy to target boys (the main defense of a country). And most autism cases are in boys, and by 2030 one of five are projected to be autistic. Surprising that many people aren't concerned.
It looks like it's given from 4-6. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/mmr/public/index.html
Hopefully this will happen to Nancy...assuming she really got the vaccine
I dont think saline has nearly as many negative side effects
That translates to 2.8% but that's not accurate, because the effects come out a day or two later, as is evident in this chart. So it's probably closer to 7%
I think you are a factor out
You are correct, I edited
? Wouldn’t it be ~3k/112k? Looks like these numbers are cumulative to me
Scary part is the second shot is when the bad side effects were reported
That's what I recall hearing. The first one made you feel mildly unwell while the second one would require you to take a week off of work if you were a healthy person. Be very interesting to see these numbers for the second dose due on the 18th (if we aren't all distracted with other happenings).
Covidamide ?
The fact that there are women that are currently pregnant that are willing to take this vaccine speaks volumes. You’re literally giving your unborn child no choice in the matter
This seals it, this is eugenics 2.0. This is going to be an extinction level event for all the dim bulbs in the gene pool. We used to try to protect the mentally handicapped in society. Now we let them make their own medical decisions based on bullshit.
I remember reading about how 'artificial wombs' can take away the 'burden' of pregnancy. Now if this vax does interfere with placenta production, only people with access to healthcare and the right social credit score will get access to artificial wombs in the future (assuming they move forward with 100% compliance with this vax). Reminds me of the thalidomide disaster and DES. We plebs are nothing but lab rabbits to these people.
The book "Brave New World" covers this, and it's based on a real plan that he knew about because of his elite UN brother.
Didn't realize about Huxley's brother. Yeah, we are living in a combo of Brave New World and 1984.
Step 1: mandate vaccination
Step 2: oops everyone got AIDS
Step 3: you now need constant booster shots to keep from getting deathly ill
Step 4: Government - "We're here to help!"
Is everyone aware that if you're a healthcare worker and "don't feel good" after the shot you can take up to a week off and still get paid your normal hourly rate for the week. It is being paid for by the feds/states! Another scam.
2.7%, that's astronomically larger than the less than 0.01% chance that I have any issue with covid.
3,000+ severe adverse reactions out of 113,000 is unacceptable.
Look at the definition of Health Impact Events.
3150/112807 is 2.8%. Thats larger than the death rate.
I'm really concerned about the 500+ that got pregnant! 👀😂🙃
Working as designed.
Revenue from vaccine sales: $60 Billion
Revenue from side effects: $500 Billion
Lol. Ie: you have a higher risk of contracting covid like symptoms from taking the vaccine than you do contracting covid in the real world.
Clown.Fucking.world clown 🤡 🌎
Guys, it’s like, totally safe. Stupid conspiracy theorists!
Yeah, I rather not trust a lot of things from the CDC right now.
For things like the measles vaccine that number is something like one in 50k have serious symptoms.
This is a terrible percentage
Gee, this is the first time I've heard of problems with vaccines. Especially one that's been rushed into production.
Is this the chlorine the human gene pool needs so badly?
That’s likely pussys that have a fever for 18 hours though. Sack up.
Jesus fuck. I feel bad for my family. All of those idiots look at me like i'm crazy when I say "Why exactly should I take it?"
My body, my choice**
** Does not apply to employees
With the exception of those who currently shit on us, NO ONE on this planet can perform daily activities because of MUH FUCKIN COVID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love to see pro-vaccers out there putting on the brakes going whoa whoa whoa.
I mean I don't know what's the surprise here, these are precisely the numbers they advertised.
What did people think something like "95% effectiveness" meant?
When the cure is worse than the disease.....
Wow
Jesus Christ, first Bell's Palsy and now Anaphylaxis? I won't take this even if my military command mandates it.
Permanently?
I took it. No side effects, thus far at least
Downvote me if you want. I got the vaccine. I am older and I lived to tell about it. I have no side effects. Remember that hospitals are paying workers sick time, that they can claim if they have a supposed reaction. I call it BS. People got vaccine then take a few paid days off to do their holiday shopping- nice timing for them.
It was an mRNA vaccine and when did you get it? It takes a few months for the RNA replication to reach half of the cellular division within the body. This is what is potentially controversial are the unknown long term effects, in both cellular division critical points and reinfection immune responses. The issue here is that it doesn't give you immunity, you still have to isolate/social distance/wear masks, and it "wears off" within a few months requiring further injections....all while having a 3% chance of incurring side effects for a virus with a survivability rate of 99.8%.
well, I am not going to follow those so called recommendations! I may have had previous exposure to the virus, but never had antibodies. And I believe I have some level of immunity, but I am not prepared to live life cowering and not seeing my relatives. The vaccine after one dose is supposed to confer greater immunity than the annual flu shot. I am not worried about side effects. I am more worried about the mental health side effects of being isolated and living behind a mask forever.
Wtf