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freespeech1a 7 points ago +8 / -1

We need more data of course. But what if many of these people have lifelong issues now from this vaccine? There's just no way to know at this point. Not worth the risk in my opinion unless you're very old or very high risk.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 9 points ago +9 / -0

In my opinion it's not even worth the risk if you are very old or have other health issues. They intentionally included old people and other high risk groups in the Moderna vaccine trial and out of over 30,0000 participants there were only 30 serious cases and only one person died of the virus.

I'll take my chances with the virus.

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MAGA45_2 -4 points ago +2 / -6

Sure there is no way to know. But we aren’t exactly stupid. We can have a pretty good idea about the risk of long term issues. And frankly there isn’t any reason to believe there will be long term issues. Not knowing for sure about something isn’t the same as that thing being likely.

We know that having antibodies to the spike protein doesn’t cause long term issues. And the vaccine is only producing a protein similar to that. It’s not using any of the other proteins within Covid that we do know causes issues. For instance the scare about fertility issues is not caused from the spike protein. They know specifically which proteins cause that and they aren’t being utilized in this vaccine.

Of course no one should get the vaccine unless they feel it’s safe. But it’s false to be making claims about it causing long term issues when there is currently 0 data to even hint of that being a problem.

It wouldn’t be wrong to say we haven’t fully tested it yet but that’s not what many people here are doing. I’ve been a trump supporter from day 1 and I find the doom and gloom that’s popped up since we left Reddit to be disturbing.

Just because someone makes a claim doesn’t mean it’s credible, it’s just more fake news. We need to insulate ourselves from fake news even fake news we want to believe.

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dabicsta -1 points ago +1 / -2

You are correct. Thanks for your input!