Alaskans just got notices that all of our personal voter data was hacked but don’t worry... lol I’m not really interested in worrying about April 15th anymore, either.
< get new W4 form
< claim 11 dependents
< watch income tax withholdings on subsequent paychecks evaporate.
< enjoy a “new” 30% raise
< tell the IRS 🖕, and enclose a copy of all the data and evidence showing our government getting “bought” by the CCP, when they send me notification that I owe
I like how they'll imprison you for accidentally downloading snow falling on cedars but if you're Chinese it's like a. Free pass to rape and pillage any IP or copyright
Good luck with that. Crooks in office can take bribes and launder money, but if I make a minor accounting error in my taxes they come after me for $120 or some piddly amount. Meanwhile, Ibama’s laundering millions with that shifty book of his that no one wants to buy or read.
I was talking to a relative about the IRS and State taxes being established in the United States. I had no idea that it was such a recent occurrence. She mentioned that my uncles - and everyone else besides - laughed off the Franchise Tax Board and didn't acknowledge them as someone who you had to share your money with.
"I hope this path is viable." Its not, it is just another head fake like all the others.
Please Don't fall for this. We are the ones who have been blatantly cheated, President Trump and his whole campaign who worked their hearts out got cheated too - but over 75 million of us had our votes nullified through the fraud of 20 to 30 million useful idiots, a few billionaires and the CCP. And now they are bluffing us, luring us along, telling us to "let the constitutional process play out" in other words "trust the plan"?
President Trump this stopped being a Constitutional process the day fraud was discovered in Atrium County and Election Official after Election Official started lying to us and obstructing justice. We were denied relief from every lower court we appealed to for one bogus reason after another and finally The Supreme Court of the United States, the final arbitrator for Justice TURNED US AWAY BECAUSE, THEY SAID, WE LACKED STANDING - SO 75+ million of us were denied our Constitutional Right to seek redress of harm. So now they want us to go along with them while they "ape" a constitutional process to rob us further?
So seven Supreme Court Justices, Chief Justice Roberts, Breyer, Sotomayer, Kagen. And the three we gave our hearts to, the three we prayed for and cried with: Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barret - ALL SEVEN OF THEM SAID: THE CONSTITUTION HAS NO PART TO PLAY IN THIS CLUSTER FUCK.
And I agree, Mister President, declare Martial Law and haul every last one of them in front of a military tribunal.
Fighting words! And a defeatist attitude. With thinking like that one ought to just stay home and let the warriors take care of business. Y'all can still come to the victory party afterwards.
First, awesome points. This is not about Trump...it is about US! The American people.
Second, can someone explain what standing would mean? How can this case not be in the Supreme Court.
Third, every time Trump says something, months later it is confirmed he was correct. Example: Trump said he was being wiretapped. MSM and everyone denied. Now, yep, he was wiretapped. So if Biden gets in office (he better not) in a few months are we going to hear the MSM saying yep, guess there was tons of fraud. Oh well, too late now.
I wish he would but do you think the military will defend him or ally with Bidden Badden? I think the longer he waits, the less likely since the military will need to defend the current WH.
Is he willing to reject the electoral votes that have been certified and submitted to Congress? That’s a bold fucking move. He has never done anything that extreme, so it’s reasonable to have doubts about him.
There are other posts here on tdw that explain. But in a nutshell, beginning the 24th of Dec Pence has the right to require state legislatures to return into session by notifying them there are irregularities that he deems necessary to be addressed in order to seat their electors.
At work so don't have time to find links, but read 3 posts on this on tdw today and will look through history later
Robert Barnes thinks Pence won't take a stand. But I don't see the reasoning for that. Pence is loyal, and I've seen him make the tie-breaking vote numerous times. If he was a traitor he would have been one by now.
Barnes has unfortunately been right about a lot of this. The fact that he remains optimistic about our future, even with all of this, is somewhat comforting.
He has said that he thinks almost everyone including SCOTUS and Pence will betray Trump; but that Trump will end up being a "Shadow President" who still has control of the Republican base, and therefore who is elected, and that Trump will find ways of paying back every person in the party who's betrayed him and then be re-elected in 2024; meanwhile more and more people don't trust this election, so Biden will be seen as so illegitimate and corrupt that the Democrats won't try to do half the things they say they will.
Barnes was also right about the court cases, and predicted the reasons they would be dropped. According to him the Trump team couldn't get a lawyer who specialized in election law early on; so Rudy and Jenna just had to do the best they could.
Here's Matt Gaetz message saved on bitchute. The time is drawing near to separate the tares from the wheat. Glad to see Matt separate himself from the tares before the harvest begins.
Let's not forget to give this man our love! The calls and emails can be used to show support as well as to make requests. Let him know we are with him! God bless
We still need to show up armed and in FULL FORCE on 1/6. Realistically, this challenge is going to be killed by swamp creatures in both parties.
I hope it works, but I’m convinced only force can fix things now. Too much corruption in government now. We can’t fix it peacefully. Traitors and commies need to hang.
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee, speaks to reporters outside of the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) at the U.S. Capitol in Washington on Oct. 30, 2019. (Samuel Corum/Getty Images)
Rep. Matt Gaetz Says He Will Challenge Electoral College Votes on Jan. 6
BY JANITA KAN
December 20, 2020
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) said on Saturday that he plans to challenge electoral college votes when they are counted during a Joint Session of Congress on Jan. 6.
“So on January 6, I’m joining with the fighters in the Congress and we are going to object to electors from states that didn’t run clean elections,” Gaetz told a crowd during the first day of the Turning Point USA’s Student Action Summit.
Republicans in Congress are considering whether to join the effort to challenge the 2020 general election results. Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) initiated the push when he announced his intention to object to the electoral college votes come January, while several other Republican lawmakers from both chambers have remained open to participating in the effort.
Objections during the joint session must be made in writing by at least one House member and senator. If the objection meets requirements, the joint session pauses and each house withdraws to their own chamber to debate the question for a maximum of two hours. The House and Senate will then vote separately to accept or reject the objection, which requires a majority vote from both chambers.
If one chamber accepts and the other rejects, then according to federal law the “the votes of the electors whose appointment shall have been certified by the executive of the State, under the seal thereof, shall be counted.”
Several Republican senators have not ruled out the possibility of objection but have said that they would first monitor the developments regarding claims of voter fraud. Meanwhile, newly elected Alabama senator Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.) has previously suggested that he may join the planned objection by members of the House of Representatives.
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Gaetz during his speech said that moments before the event he had spoken to Tuberville, who told him that he plans on joining the effort.
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“I had a chance to speak to coach Tuberville just moments ago and he says we are done running plays from the establishment’s losing playbook and it’s time to fight,” Gaetz said.
“Now coach Tubervillve went for it a lot on fourth down when he was coaching at Auburn. They called him the Mississippi riverboat gambler. The odds may be tough, it may be fourth and long but we’re going for it on January 6.”
The lawmakers are expected to face an uphill battle with critics arguing that the strategy of adopting the alternative Republican electoral votes is a long shot as many of those votes have not been authorized by state officials.
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“Under the law, both the House and Senate would need to agree to object to the real electors and accept the fake electors,” Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.) wrote on Twitter. “There is 0.00 chance the House reverses the election.”
On Dec. 14, Republican electors in seven states cast alternate votes for President Donald Trump, setting up a new challenge for Congress when it counts the votes next month. However, critics say that the Republican votes are merely symbolic and do not have the force of the law as they have not been certified by their state officials.
The Republicans said their rationale for sending dueling electors to Congress was to preserve Trump’s legal claim in the election as his team pursues legal challenges over the counting of what they say are illegal votes.
President Donald Trump and his allies have been building a case in the courts to ensure that all concerns about voting irregularities and alleged unconstitutional actions passed by state and election officials in the 2020 election are investigated to secure confidence in the election outcome for all.
His campaign and various third parties have launched a slew of lawsuits seeking to invalidate a portion of the ballots they say were cast under fraudulent circumstances or in contravention of state election laws or the U.S. Constitution.
Many of these cases have been tossed out by judges for procedural reasons, such as lack of standing to bring a case; lack of jurisdiction to sue; mootness, where there is no longer a controversy between the parties; and laches, where a judge ruled there was a lack of diligence in bringing a claim. Other judges were not convinced by the allegations presented.
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Even if we do get the senate majority vote it means nothing since we won’t be able to flip enough or maybe any House Dems. You’d need both majority votes in our favor. We still need to fight but this path isn’t going to work.
Which is why protesting every elector of every state is the path. There isn't time for 1000 hours of debate and a contingent election gets forced on the Demonrats
I’m not sure that’s the plan either. If they don’t finish in time, it doesn’t get tossed to a contingent election. Instead, we get Acting President Pelosi. They have to successfully deny votes to get Biden under 270 to toss to a contingent election.
And Pelosi can stay Acting President until the debt ceiling is reached. Each chamber of Congress is not allowed to vote on anything until it elects the president in the house and vice in the senate.
I’ve already heard Pence talking about “ a Biden administration “ and having a check on Biden is why we must win the senate. He has been solid up until this point but I’m not sure if he has the stones to do what is needed. I hope I’m wrong.
You're legitimately delusional. Not even all the Republicans in the Senate will vote that way. You're expecting some Dems to flip? LOL!
This entire website is full of delusional people now. Look I support Trump, but don't actually think some Dems in the House will flip. There's zero chance that happens. This isn't like when Trump won and people were riding him off, that was a stupid thing to say he had no chance then because ordinary people are voting. But these are politicians voting in the House and Senate and they ARE THE SWAMP. No chance you convince enough Dems to vote in favor of a challenge to the electors in the House. The evidence can be there, via a Court order and they'd still not vote in favor of an election challenge. Hell, they don't listen to the law and the Courts as it is already on small stuff. Good luck getting them to listen on the big stuff.
Yea I’ve thought delusional also. I think this is the internet and 90% of these morons are kids or foreigners. I think most here are lazy kids thinking this is going to play out like some action movie. Oof
Republicans before 2016 didn't do this either. That is how much they hate Trump, and how little they understand about his supporters. They think they would have all 3 branches of government right now if it weren't for him messing it up for them.
When the House of Representatives votes it’s one vote per delegation, not per representative. Each delegation represents the state legislature of that respective state. 30 of the states have republican legislatures. Do the math.
Al Gore did exactly that to himself in 2001. He was VP and the candidate. Maxine Waters objected to the electors in Florida. Gore asked if the there was a Senator who would join her. There were none. He certified the Florida electors and ensured he would never be President.
I can’t speak for all churches but I have visited 4 churches these past two months, and have heard 3 sermons on voter fraud and how it needs to be exposed. I live in Southern California. I understand that’s anecdotal, but I believe that most Christians are united on this front
Don’t focus on Pence. Focus on the plan they had, and it openly relying on docile acceptance of the order of things. They assumed we would follow Fox News and the establishment, and just accept the election. They did not plan for thousands of armed pissed of people in DC. Burn loot and murder goes both ways
Not flipping Yrump won and this may just be Rinos trying to stay in power. They know if it goes down the way Patriots are willing to execute no Rino will stay in Congress
If what you are saying is accurate (I have no idea) then it sounds like this is basically all for show. GEOTUS is still going to have to invoke Insurrection Act and EO. Is that about right?
It is absolutely necessary for the 2-hour debates to go on long enough all the way up until the 18th to force a contested election
If you got a congressman and a senator to object to enough electoral votes (1 EV at a time), that means you could, for example, draw PA out to 40 hours of debate. Since Pence presides over the proceedings, he could have Congress working straight 8 hour days (i.e., adjourn every evening rather than allowing congress to work through the night on this - and of course, no weekends). Hmmm.... maybe?
It would require balls of solid brass, because it would be obvious what the play is pretty early on in the process.
It's disgusting that it would have to come to this. Watch the lawsuits in the swing states and pray the results come through quickly and most importantly, justly.
Many in the swamp are not okay with the agenda of these communists. Redistribution, wealth tax, gun and ammo extinction, 10-15 million new citizens within the first 90 days, allowing China to expand and threaten the south sea, Israel, inheritance taxes will go up and hurt everyone in the swamp.
Not a doomer or anything but what is the strategy with challenging in congress? Aren't the Pelosi led house and cucked rinos in the senate just going to vote to agree with the original count?
If Congress doesn't complete this meeting and either contest or certify all 535 electoral votes by the 20th, Pelosi becomes Acting President. Hope that changes it
It just follows the Presidential order of succession for when there's no President or VP. The next in line is the President Pro Temp of the Senate, Chuck Grassley.
Say you have 30 loyal Senators; 30 speaking filibusters would take up ~15 days if done right. It's actually a more viable path to blocking Biden than anything I've seen here.
McConnel fears this because a vote will be taken and there will be a neatly compiled list of who to primary for those who say no. This will also destroy the GA runoff chances if the GOP doesnt even try to review these issues. Id hate to see Warnock and Osoff win but regardless if this shit is not dealt with 15 percent of us are staying home while Stacey abrahams sits on her fat ass on the absentee ballot throne.
I dont care what Trump Jr says. Look at what the Bernie bros got from holding their nose with Biden. He is actively cucking them daily. I will not be a fucking cuck for the GOP. The infrastructure favors the establishment and reelecting them doesnt make it magically go away next election cycle.
Its not a done deal yet. I'm sure the GOP will utilize every tool to coerce house and senate defectors. You will see threats, proprietary doxable information leaked from the GOP, and back room deals to get them to shut up. Gaetz seems to not give a fuck along with Gosar, Tuberville and Brooks but time will tell.
To not screw this up by sitting out the GA runoffs. He wants us to fall in line. Mark my words when those 2 win (Perdue & Loeffler) and pass bipartisan amnesty for Bezos , Zuckerberg, and Dorsey you will see exactly wtf I'm talking about.
You underestimate the stupidity and lack of courage from the average voter. You dont think they wont reuse the same socialism is bad rhetoric they use this time?
We as conservatives say we are tough with our guns but deep down many of them are cowards. I am 100 percent ready fpr these marxists to come to my door, they arent so they vote for RINOs.
Yeah, this is largely symbolic. This isn't enough, we need a path victory. The only point of people being in DC on the 6th if something has happened to change the dynamic of the vote ie. we get a state to flip or invalidate the EC votes.
Where does VP Pence stand on this issue. I have yet to see anything on that. If he does not support this it will not matter anyway. Common sense say he would, but one can never tell.
This is the line. We need to show Congress how positive of a move this is for your poll numbers. Spread the word and make Gaetz the hero he will be for doing this.
After receiving the objections, the Joint Session splits up so the House and Senate can hold 2 hours of debate and then vote. Both chambers need a majority vote in favor of tossing the electors for it to happen and the full membership of the House votes; anyone who claims the House will conduct this vote by state delegation is getting things mixed up.
Thank you Matt! Thank you to all the real men and women in this fight with our POTUS Donald Trump! GOD BLESS AMERICA! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 GOD BLESS AND KEEP OUR PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP AND OUR COUNTRY SAFE!
Thank you MG!
He's going to have a much bigger crowd to tell that to on January 6th.
I hope this path is viable.
I've read conflicting things about Mike Pence and his views on all this.
WE SHOULD NOT EVEN BE IN THIS POSITION.
There's enough evidence in Matt Braynard's research to flip three states without even considering the Dominion fuckery.
Alaskans just got notices that all of our personal voter data was hacked but don’t worry... lol I’m not really interested in worrying about April 15th anymore, either.
that day.. sounds familiar..
We really need to get this going...fuck paying taxes if our “politicians” and institutions are all in bed with Chyna money.
< get new W4 form < claim 11 dependents < watch income tax withholdings on subsequent paychecks evaporate. < enjoy a “new” 30% raise < tell the IRS 🖕, and enclose a copy of all the data and evidence showing our government getting “bought” by the CCP, when they send me notification that I owe
I'm changing my withholdings first week of January. Everyone should do the same.
Seriously. They can't arrest us all. As long as there are millions of us
They also give our jobs to H1B visa holders.
I like how they'll imprison you for accidentally downloading snow falling on cedars but if you're Chinese it's like a. Free pass to rape and pillage any IP or copyright
Good luck with that. Crooks in office can take bribes and launder money, but if I make a minor accounting error in my taxes they come after me for $120 or some piddly amount. Meanwhile, Ibama’s laundering millions with that shifty book of his that no one wants to buy or read.
I was talking to a relative about the IRS and State taxes being established in the United States. I had no idea that it was such a recent occurrence. She mentioned that my uncles - and everyone else besides - laughed off the Franchise Tax Board and didn't acknowledge them as someone who you had to share your money with.
Please Don't fall for this. We are the ones who have been blatantly cheated, President Trump and his whole campaign who worked their hearts out got cheated too - but over 75 million of us had our votes nullified through the fraud of 20 to 30 million useful idiots, a few billionaires and the CCP. And now they are bluffing us, luring us along, telling us to "let the constitutional process play out" in other words "trust the plan"?
President Trump this stopped being a Constitutional process the day fraud was discovered in Atrium County and Election Official after Election Official started lying to us and obstructing justice. We were denied relief from every lower court we appealed to for one bogus reason after another and finally The Supreme Court of the United States, the final arbitrator for Justice TURNED US AWAY BECAUSE, THEY SAID, WE LACKED STANDING - SO 75+ million of us were denied our Constitutional Right to seek redress of harm. So now they want us to go along with them while they "ape" a constitutional process to rob us further?
So seven Supreme Court Justices, Chief Justice Roberts, Breyer, Sotomayer, Kagen. And the three we gave our hearts to, the three we prayed for and cried with: Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barret - ALL SEVEN OF THEM SAID: THE CONSTITUTION HAS NO PART TO PLAY IN THIS CLUSTER FUCK.
And I agree, Mister President, declare Martial Law and haul every last one of them in front of a military tribunal.
Fighting words! And a defeatist attitude. With thinking like that one ought to just stay home and let the warriors take care of business. Y'all can still come to the victory party afterwards.
👌🇨🇳Okay Commie🇨🇳👌
We can see you cunts from a mile away. Keep trying though....
First, awesome points. This is not about Trump...it is about US! The American people.
Second, can someone explain what standing would mean? How can this case not be in the Supreme Court.
Third, every time Trump says something, months later it is confirmed he was correct. Example: Trump said he was being wiretapped. MSM and everyone denied. Now, yep, he was wiretapped. So if Biden gets in office (he better not) in a few months are we going to hear the MSM saying yep, guess there was tons of fraud. Oh well, too late now.
I am beyond frustrated!
Didn’t POTUS Tweet out No Martial Law today ? (Sunday) ??
Arwyn3x yes THIS
I wish he would but do you think the military will defend him or ally with Bidden Badden? I think the longer he waits, the less likely since the military will need to defend the current WH.
Sure, if the courts would hear his evidence or if the state legislatures would do their jobs.
Links?
I can not find anything that indicates Pence is anything less than 100% for America and for US!
Exactly! Mike Pence would only be putting himself in a very compromising position and out of a job!
DroolingElmo Agree but the Vice President should NOT get vaccine just yet....
Is he willing to reject the electoral votes that have been certified and submitted to Congress? That’s a bold fucking move. He has never done anything that extreme, so it’s reasonable to have doubts about him.
Look up elections of Jefferson and Jackson and then tell me Pence don't have the balls
There are other posts here on tdw that explain. But in a nutshell, beginning the 24th of Dec Pence has the right to require state legislatures to return into session by notifying them there are irregularities that he deems necessary to be addressed in order to seat their electors.
At work so don't have time to find links, but read 3 posts on this on tdw today and will look through history later
I understand he has the right to do it. I’m saying I don’t know if he will have the balls to.
We need heroes right now. I think he will be one.
Robert Barnes thinks Pence won't take a stand. But I don't see the reasoning for that. Pence is loyal, and I've seen him make the tie-breaking vote numerous times. If he was a traitor he would have been one by now.
Barnes has unfortunately been right about a lot of this. The fact that he remains optimistic about our future, even with all of this, is somewhat comforting.
Can I please ask what Robert Barnes says?
He has said that he thinks almost everyone including SCOTUS and Pence will betray Trump; but that Trump will end up being a "Shadow President" who still has control of the Republican base, and therefore who is elected, and that Trump will find ways of paying back every person in the party who's betrayed him and then be re-elected in 2024; meanwhile more and more people don't trust this election, so Biden will be seen as so illegitimate and corrupt that the Democrats won't try to do half the things they say they will.
Barnes was also right about the court cases, and predicted the reasons they would be dropped. According to him the Trump team couldn't get a lawyer who specialized in election law early on; so Rudy and Jenna just had to do the best they could.
So Barnes sees no chance of Trump bring re elected 2020?
I've read conflicting things about Mike Pence and his views on all this.
no you haven’t, because there weren’t any
Yes there are. Lots of them.
We should not be putting all our eggs in this basket when the previous baskets have all been cut apart by traitors.
Here's Matt Gaetz message saved on bitchute. The time is drawing near to separate the tares from the wheat. Glad to see Matt separate himself from the tares before the harvest begins.
GOAT Maria Bartiromo just BASED out on her show, vowing to keep digging and exposing the TREASON.
I'm with her. The MONEY HONEY.
Have you heard these crazy conspiracy theories? They're claiming, with absolutely no evidence, there was a fair election.
Let's not forget to give this man our love! The calls and emails can be used to show support as well as to make requests. Let him know we are with him! God bless
I like man love!
Was about to downvote, but then realized the name checks out. Upvote instead!
We still need to show up armed and in FULL FORCE on 1/6. Realistically, this challenge is going to be killed by swamp creatures in both parties.
I hope it works, but I’m convinced only force can fix things now. Too much corruption in government now. We can’t fix it peacefully. Traitors and commies need to hang.
I’m starting to see it this way now too.
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Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee, speaks to reporters outside of the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) at the U.S. Capitol in Washington on Oct. 30, 2019. (Samuel Corum/Getty Images)
Rep. Matt Gaetz Says He Will Challenge Electoral College Votes on Jan. 6 BY JANITA KAN December 20, 2020
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) said on Saturday that he plans to challenge electoral college votes when they are counted during a Joint Session of Congress on Jan. 6.
“So on January 6, I’m joining with the fighters in the Congress and we are going to object to electors from states that didn’t run clean elections,” Gaetz told a crowd during the first day of the Turning Point USA’s Student Action Summit.
Republicans in Congress are considering whether to join the effort to challenge the 2020 general election results. Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) initiated the push when he announced his intention to object to the electoral college votes come January, while several other Republican lawmakers from both chambers have remained open to participating in the effort.
Objections during the joint session must be made in writing by at least one House member and senator. If the objection meets requirements, the joint session pauses and each house withdraws to their own chamber to debate the question for a maximum of two hours. The House and Senate will then vote separately to accept or reject the objection, which requires a majority vote from both chambers.
If one chamber accepts and the other rejects, then according to federal law the “the votes of the electors whose appointment shall have been certified by the executive of the State, under the seal thereof, shall be counted.”
Several Republican senators have not ruled out the possibility of objection but have said that they would first monitor the developments regarding claims of voter fraud. Meanwhile, newly elected Alabama senator Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.) has previously suggested that he may join the planned objection by members of the House of Representatives.
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Gaetz during his speech said that moments before the event he had spoken to Tuberville, who told him that he plans on joining the effort.
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“Now coach Tubervillve went for it a lot on fourth down when he was coaching at Auburn. They called him the Mississippi riverboat gambler. The odds may be tough, it may be fourth and long but we’re going for it on January 6.”
The lawmakers are expected to face an uphill battle with critics arguing that the strategy of adopting the alternative Republican electoral votes is a long shot as many of those votes have not been authorized by state officials.
RELATED Exclusive: Rep. Mo Brooks—Will the US House of Representatives Decide the Next President? Exclusive: Rep. Mo Brooks—Will the US House of Representatives Decide the Next President? “Under the law, both the House and Senate would need to agree to object to the real electors and accept the fake electors,” Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.) wrote on Twitter. “There is 0.00 chance the House reverses the election.”
On Dec. 14, Republican electors in seven states cast alternate votes for President Donald Trump, setting up a new challenge for Congress when it counts the votes next month. However, critics say that the Republican votes are merely symbolic and do not have the force of the law as they have not been certified by their state officials.
The Republicans said their rationale for sending dueling electors to Congress was to preserve Trump’s legal claim in the election as his team pursues legal challenges over the counting of what they say are illegal votes.
President Donald Trump and his allies have been building a case in the courts to ensure that all concerns about voting irregularities and alleged unconstitutional actions passed by state and election officials in the 2020 election are investigated to secure confidence in the election outcome for all.
His campaign and various third parties have launched a slew of lawsuits seeking to invalidate a portion of the ballots they say were cast under fraudulent circumstances or in contravention of state election laws or the U.S. Constitution.
Many of these cases have been tossed out by judges for procedural reasons, such as lack of standing to bring a case; lack of jurisdiction to sue; mootness, where there is no longer a controversy between the parties; and laches, where a judge ruled there was a lack of diligence in bringing a claim. Other judges were not convinced by the allegations presented.
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Given the Dems control the House, and there are many RINO Republicans in the Senate, there will not be a majority in either the House or the Senate.
Even if we do get the senate majority vote it means nothing since we won’t be able to flip enough or maybe any House Dems. You’d need both majority votes in our favor. We still need to fight but this path isn’t going to work.
That was mainly my point. We likely won't get the senate majority because of RINOs like Mitch and Mittens (the Moron Romney).
There's no way we'll get a majority in the House.
The only way Trump stops the steal is to surround the WH with the military, refuse to let the usurpers take control.
Which is why protesting every elector of every state is the path. There isn't time for 1000 hours of debate and a contingent election gets forced on the Demonrats
I’m not sure that’s the plan either. If they don’t finish in time, it doesn’t get tossed to a contingent election. Instead, we get Acting President Pelosi. They have to successfully deny votes to get Biden under 270 to toss to a contingent election.
And Pelosi can stay Acting President until the debt ceiling is reached. Each chamber of Congress is not allowed to vote on anything until it elects the president in the house and vice in the senate.
Yes thats why we need a military monitored revote on paper ballots
Military involvement in elections is never a good thing
Disagree. Definitely needed here.
I retract my previous statement
You forgot the part that says, any objection equals instant ignition of "civil" war
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I’ve already heard Pence talking about “ a Biden administration “ and having a check on Biden is why we must win the senate. He has been solid up until this point but I’m not sure if he has the stones to do what is needed. I hope I’m wrong.
He won't be up unless both the House and Senate vote majority - do you think that is going to happen?
Absolutely
You're legitimately delusional. Not even all the Republicans in the Senate will vote that way. You're expecting some Dems to flip? LOL!
This entire website is full of delusional people now. Look I support Trump, but don't actually think some Dems in the House will flip. There's zero chance that happens. This isn't like when Trump won and people were riding him off, that was a stupid thing to say he had no chance then because ordinary people are voting. But these are politicians voting in the House and Senate and they ARE THE SWAMP. No chance you convince enough Dems to vote in favor of a challenge to the electors in the House. The evidence can be there, via a Court order and they'd still not vote in favor of an election challenge. Hell, they don't listen to the law and the Courts as it is already on small stuff. Good luck getting them to listen on the big stuff.
Bro you could take the Dems back in a time machine and physically show them the fraud happening first hand and they’d still vote to certify.
The rule of law is dead and any attempts to object for a vote is a waste of time. It’s optics to look like they’re doing something.
Simply DO NOT VOTE again. It's a complete waste of time.
Yea I’ve thought delusional also. I think this is the internet and 90% of these morons are kids or foreigners. I think most here are lazy kids thinking this is going to play out like some action movie. Oof
Sadly, this seems very true. From what I've seen, only Republicans flip and betray their party. Dems just don't do this.
Republicans before 2016 didn't do this either. That is how much they hate Trump, and how little they understand about his supporters. They think they would have all 3 branches of government right now if it weren't for him messing it up for them.
When the House of Representatives votes it’s one vote per delegation, not per representative. Each delegation represents the state legislature of that respective state. 30 of the states have republican legislatures. Do the math.
That’s in the contingent election. This would be for certifying the electoral slates.
Dumbass
no u
Why would he vote himself out of a job?
Al Gore did exactly that to himself in 2001. He was VP and the candidate. Maxine Waters objected to the electors in Florida. Gore asked if the there was a Senator who would join her. There were none. He certified the Florida electors and ensured he would never be President.
Nixon too, I believe.
Yep, nixon v jfk in 1960 when nixon was VP. Massive voter fraud took place that year too in TX and IL
I can’t speak for all churches but I have visited 4 churches these past two months, and have heard 3 sermons on voter fraud and how it needs to be exposed. I live in Southern California. I understand that’s anecdotal, but I believe that most Christians are united on this front
They aren't atheists retard, they're moloch worshippers and Alex Jones exposed this.
Pence screams politician to me
Never cared for pence. Seems like he is just doing the absolute minimum to seem like a team player.
Judging by the downvotes, I'd say we're in the minority.
Don’t focus on Pence. Focus on the plan they had, and it openly relying on docile acceptance of the order of things. They assumed we would follow Fox News and the establishment, and just accept the election. They did not plan for thousands of armed pissed of people in DC. Burn loot and murder goes both ways
Ten million in the streets of DC on 1-6-21
I recently inherited a neat civil war cavalry sword. It's tarnished and probably not with a lot so I'm thinking it now needs to be sharpened.
How many senators do we need?
To cause gridlock and thus force a contingent election, we'd need 50. Really, this would be a final last ditch attempt if all else failed.
Burn loot and murder is the path. Power and violence are clearly the only thing that they respect.
There is a revite in person paoer ballots military supervision Patriots backing the military up at every voting site
50 or the majority?
The majority, correct.
Which even now I have faith he will do, Pence is likely a GOPe cuck deep down.
You think all senate Republicans are a yes? Romney? Collins? Sass?
Will GA have 2 senators at that time,?
They won’t. Purdue’s term ends on Jan 3, and his election is on Jan 5. He won’t be sworn in by Jan 6
Georgia votes that day, I believe, for their Senators as well.
what is the other option?
Wisconsin, Arizona and Georgia flipping is what we need.
Not flipping Yrump won and this may just be Rinos trying to stay in power. They know if it goes down the way Patriots are willing to execute no Rino will stay in Congress
right but how does that happen? they've already sent electors. isnt it up to congress?
They sent both Biden and Trump electors. If the results flip, congress is obligated to choose the Trump electors.
To challenge, just 1
Deny Dem house members entry to the capitol building.
So far at this point none
That is why you’re there on Jan 6 pedes.
You’re there to give the weak kneed politicians the shot of American ballsyness they need to stand up and be counted!
The large crowd may help sway the wishy-washy, but the committed globalists will not support Trump no matter what. So this is not the way to win.
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They don't use the entrances that could be blocked. They go in and out through a network of tunnels.
I bet they use the tunnels for pizza and hotdogs too.
Probably so.
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lol theres definitely gonna be some insane security
Security in DC will have access to weapons that can incapacitate a large crowd without killing everyone.
That shit is experimental and best, and gets disabled real quick when patriots shoot it with 50 cals
Wow!! My first stickie!! 😆
Feels good man
If what you are saying is accurate (I have no idea) then it sounds like this is basically all for show. GEOTUS is still going to have to invoke Insurrection Act and EO. Is that about right?
He said martial law.
martial law != IA.
The IA can include martial law, but it doesn't have to.
Which tweet? Missed that one.
doesn’t matter
martial law is not the insurrection act
EXACTLY
Rand Paul I believe.
If you got a congressman and a senator to object to enough electoral votes (1 EV at a time), that means you could, for example, draw PA out to 40 hours of debate. Since Pence presides over the proceedings, he could have Congress working straight 8 hour days (i.e., adjourn every evening rather than allowing congress to work through the night on this - and of course, no weekends). Hmmm.... maybe?
It would require balls of solid brass, because it would be obvious what the play is pretty early on in the process.
OMG I did not know this was a strategy. Wowsers man I hope they do it
It's disgusting that it would have to come to this. Watch the lawsuits in the swing states and pray the results come through quickly and most importantly, justly.
Always count on Florida Man!
Not gonna lie... I thought this guy was SWAMP and then he opened his mouth and all I hear is MAGA
Many in the swamp are not okay with the agenda of these communists. Redistribution, wealth tax, gun and ammo extinction, 10-15 million new citizens within the first 90 days, allowing China to expand and threaten the south sea, Israel, inheritance taxes will go up and hurt everyone in the swamp.
Not a doomer or anything but what is the strategy with challenging in congress? Aren't the Pelosi led house and cucked rinos in the senate just going to vote to agree with the original count?
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If Congress doesn't complete this meeting and either contest or certify all 535 electoral votes by the 20th, Pelosi becomes Acting President. Hope that changes it
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It just follows the Presidential order of succession for when there's no President or VP. The next in line is the President Pro Temp of the Senate, Chuck Grassley.
Yeah Biden will be elected on January 6. We won't get a majority in the house or senate. It's time to fight
Correct.
You can count on it.
Let's pray for ol green eggs and ham Rand to do his thing in the Senate.
I'm hopeful. He has been very consistent this year.
You realize we need 50 senators to get on board, right? Don't be delusional
And negativity and giving up has gotten you where in life, so far?
Please, tell me what convincing your pea-brain that we'll somehow get 50 senators and a majority of the house on our side will do for you
Where is this anger coming from? You been hanging out with Chris Hayes?
I ain't angry bro. You are just flat-out retarded if you think the electors will give trump a win
Say you have 30 loyal Senators; 30 speaking filibusters would take up ~15 days if done right. It's actually a more viable path to blocking Biden than anything I've seen here.
And what do you think Romney, Collins, Sass will do?
as well as McConnell, Graham, Thune, Toomey, Portman, Murkowski, Rubio, Cornyn,.....
Exactly.
There should be a crowd of Republicans in the House and the Senate, challenging this election fraud.
Yes love him
I love Tracy
McConnel fears this because a vote will be taken and there will be a neatly compiled list of who to primary for those who say no. This will also destroy the GA runoff chances if the GOP doesnt even try to review these issues. Id hate to see Warnock and Osoff win but regardless if this shit is not dealt with 15 percent of us are staying home while Stacey abrahams sits on her fat ass on the absentee ballot throne.
I dont care what Trump Jr says. Look at what the Bernie bros got from holding their nose with Biden. He is actively cucking them daily. I will not be a fucking cuck for the GOP. The infrastructure favors the establishment and reelecting them doesnt make it magically go away next election cycle.
Its not a done deal yet. I'm sure the GOP will utilize every tool to coerce house and senate defectors. You will see threats, proprietary doxable information leaked from the GOP, and back room deals to get them to shut up. Gaetz seems to not give a fuck along with Gosar, Tuberville and Brooks but time will tell.
The runoff is the day before the 6th though
What did Trump Jr say?
To not screw this up by sitting out the GA runoffs. He wants us to fall in line. Mark my words when those 2 win (Perdue & Loeffler) and pass bipartisan amnesty for Bezos , Zuckerberg, and Dorsey you will see exactly wtf I'm talking about.
You underestimate the stupidity and lack of courage from the average voter. You dont think they wont reuse the same socialism is bad rhetoric they use this time?
We as conservatives say we are tough with our guns but deep down many of them are cowards. I am 100 percent ready fpr these marxists to come to my door, they arent so they vote for RINOs.
Yeah, this is largely symbolic. This isn't enough, we need a path victory. The only point of people being in DC on the 6th if something has happened to change the dynamic of the vote ie. we get a state to flip or invalidate the EC votes.
ok so this is what i have understood so far:
you need one member of house GOP and one member of senate GOP, to object the electoral vote right? what happens after?
It doesn't, the alternate votes on the 14 aren't valid unless the relevant state legislatures certify them, which hasn't happened yet
All democrats and establishment (McConnell lead) republicans vote to uphold the EC votes and Biden is sworn in.
Political grandstanding
Pence will beat him to it but whatever
Matt Gaetz is an opportunist. We need more opportunists.
Isn't he trying to get into one of the Trump daughter's panties?
Lmao. For sure.
This is what President Trump meant when he said "He will teach them to fight" and as he said before...he is a wartime President
CALL/EMAIL AND THANK HIM
That's my representative! :)
Hahahaha. So underrated.
The win will have already happened by then. The clean-up is what really starts on the 6th. IMHO.
There’s a reason why Trump has been grooming him for the Big Leagues.
Fine, men have started wars, discovered cures, and pushed the limits of humanity just to get a girl.
If wanting Tiffany pushes him to greatness, so be it.
Totally agree
Where does VP Pence stand on this issue. I have yet to see anything on that. If he does not support this it will not matter anyway. Common sense say he would, but one can never tell.
I love this guy!!
Same as Rand Paul and Tommy Tuberville. Hey Mitch...GFY!
We need more Republicans like Matt Gaetz who does NOT get punked down by the crybabies on the left
I knew he would because Matt Gaetz is awesome
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This is the line. We need to show Congress how positive of a move this is for your poll numbers. Spread the word and make Gaetz the hero he will be for doing this.
Love Matt Gaetz!!! future president if we cn get rid of Dominion Machines, SolarWinds software and mail in ballots!!
God Bless You MG please fight for our freedom and liberty
Thank you Matt for your representation and courage.
After receiving the objections, the Joint Session splits up so the House and Senate can hold 2 hours of debate and then vote. Both chambers need a majority vote in favor of tossing the electors for it to happen and the full membership of the House votes; anyone who claims the House will conduct this vote by state delegation is getting things mixed up.
This guy Gaetz it.
Based Matt Gaetz setting the example
How many Senators we have exactly.... We can get a shit ton of House members but without 1 senator we are fucked.
Gaetz is one of the good ones. An endangered species these days.
ALL THE STATES WITH ANYTHING SKETCHY. EVEN IF WE WON THE STATE. ALL ELECTIONS MUST BE HONEST.
Thank you Matt! Thank you to all the real men and women in this fight with our POTUS Donald Trump! GOD BLESS AMERICA! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 GOD BLESS AND KEEP OUR PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP AND OUR COUNTRY SAFE!