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posted ago by lifeisahologram +27 / -0

Just count the trump electors and be done with it. Let the left scream. Let them cry. Let them say whatever they want. But FORCE them have to fight to keep their fraud, don’t just hand it to them!

Just count the trump electors and be done with it. Let the left scream. Let them cry. Let them say whatever they want. But FORCE them have to fight to keep their fraud, don’t just hand it to them!
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LibriumOrDeath 2 points ago +2 / -0

How could a man of God count illegal votes?

If he is honest, at this moment that would mean no electors for these states as neither were selected legally. Not sure if that would work if congress would override him.

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lifeisahologram [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don’t think god really cares about law of man. Was Lincoln not a man of god when he made an illegal order? Were the founding fathers not Christian when they illegally declared independence? (I know some weren’t but most were)

I’m not religious myself but pretty sure god isn’t gonna be like “well looks like evil is using your institutions against you, guess you gotta take it from satan, sorry bro!”

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Bluestorm83 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's curious, because in Scripture there are times when God very clearly does tell His people that they must be subject to the unworthy, heathen, evil people who rule over them. And at other times, God says "Pharaoh, get out of my way or I will plague your land, destroy your crops and your river, and kill your children."

I believe that it's a case of needing to use wisdom, and determine which course of action would give Glory to God. Christ submitted to a BLATANTLY false sentence, and was executed by the legitimate government of Judea at the time (despite this having been the Divine Plan all along, for Human Christ it was a great injustice.) But in that case, it was for the greatest Glory to God possible: The salvation and redemption of countless sinners otherwise doomed to hell eternally. Same when the Hebrew People ever conquered a nation or broke free from Egypt: it was always to the Glory of God.

So as a Christian, I ask myself now, what would give more Glory to the Lord God Almighty: The only Free and Christian Nation left in the world reasserting its dedication to the laws and values of our founders, who defined ALL Human Rights as having been given by God, and Inalienable by any Mortal Power... or by us all Abandoning those God Given Rights? Clearly the first option. And also, and here's the kicker...

When the Bible tells us to be in Subjection to the Authority over us, that does NOT mean we can not overthrow tyranny in the US. See, we live in a Unique Nation. The President, the SCOTUS, Congress? They are NOT our Rulers. They are our REPRESENTATIVES. The CONSTITUTION ALONE is our Ruler in the United States of America. We would be rebelling against it if we did NOT overthrow tyranny.

And so in this way, I believe that it is 100% in keeping with the Law of the United States of America, and ALSO 100% in keeping with the Law of God, for us to take up arms and cast down any false kings or tyrants who attempt to rule over us by their own authority, which is an act of rebellion on their part both against the true Ruler and Law of the Land, AND the God that it enshrines as our source of rights, liberties, and freedoms.

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lifeisahologram [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

The United States was created by violating every law. The purpose was not to make those specific laws, the purpose was to try and make laws that would make the “more perfect union” that’s the goal. They didn’t set out to make a law where X number of people have to agree by X date to certify X thing. That’s all arbitrary in the steps to obtain the actual goal.

I don’t think allowing fraud to take place is in like with obtaining that goal of maintaining the United States. Period.

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Bluestorm83 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh, I agree wholeheartedly. But the founders doing the wrong things for the right reason doesn't necessarily make them "right," and there's a lot of well meaning, dedicated, good, patriotic Christian Americans right now. And a lot of them have a lesser understanding of Scripture than I do, and a lot of them have a lesser understanding of Civics than I do.

I'm just sounding the call that, "It's okay guys! America says we can do what we've got to do for our Freedom from Tyranny, and God's Law to be in subjection to the rule over us means that we are to support America saying that we can do what we've got to do for our Freedom from Tyranny!"