Trump's style is to listen to opposing sides battle and then make up his own mind.
By having some staffers who say concede (which to me seems somewhat implausible) he can best assess the arguments the Left would be making and then block them most effectively.
In the study of presidential decision making, that’s an identified management model called “competitive”. Most agree Trump is the first user of the style since FDR, interestingly enough.
Definitely some TDS at play there shading his conclusions, but that’s a decent walkthrough. Trump let’s the camps duke it out and lets that inform his final decisions. But, of course, he also is one to want to keep promises. Go figure that the academics can’t quite wrap their gear around that part, preferring to cast it as “self interest” lol
This sounds like wishful thinking. I don't want any consneeders if the room. This must be what Gen Flynn was talking about yesterday about Trump needing to "shore up" the people in the white house. I fucking hate people like this more than I hate the marxist.
I'm with you. I love hearing opposing viewpoints and debating which action to take, but anyone who says "yes Mr. President it looks like you got cheated, and Biden is compromised by China, but we've exhausted all legal options and you just need to concede for the good of the country but we'll get 'em in 2024!" is a special kind of stupid. Or a traitor.
Hate to hear he's keeping "concede" people for advisors..
He needs people whispering in his ear hourly, "Imagine what they'll do to this Nation if we allow this corruption to pass" "Imagine what they'll do to you and your family if you don't destroy the threat now" "Mr. President everyone is depending on you"
Well if he has a plan that he's revealed to no-one except maybe Melania and Pence, this serves him as it tells him who to kick out when the time comes. For now they're digging their own graves.
Lol ... the idea of explaining Fauci as a diversity hire next administration... "well, we hired a whole bunch of smart people who are typically right ... soooooo, we needed a complete corrupt dumbass who's always wrong to be the benchmark ...."
I bet GEOTUS has been doing this for years (nah, decades).
Fauci has been in the CDC for over 30+ years, he's the one who fucked up and murdered everyone during the AIDS pandemic. Trump didn't hire that thing...
Trump is not going to concede. You don't call people to DC on the 6th for a "Welcome the new President people. We had a good run". These barbarians are going to kill him and his family over time if he concedes. He knows it, they know it, we know it.
He's going to kill them first and that's the way it is.
this is a good point. people get too hung up on doomer propaganda and rush to blame advisors telling him the wrong things.. Trumps advisors are just that, opinion people. Trump likes to hear as many angles as possible but the fact remains, NOBODY makes up Trumps mind but Donald J Trump.
I am sure that Patrick's perception is his reality. I am not so sure that he is wrong. The other people in the room including Trump's advisors have differing motivations and that is where Trump will take control at a certain point and make the decision just like he did when he put the travel bans into effect with the virus. This is just about 1000X more important than that decision.
I do not believe that this is a good leak, in that, I do not believe that this information is perfectly accurate for strategic purposes. If you were to have a plan against an opponent, then having them think you have internal problems would be to your advantage.
Look, I will repeat what I have said, don't speculate too hard on this stuff, what happens happens and you have been ordered to prepare for 1.6.20
It's also possible Byrne got the pulse of the room and he's right. We really don't know. Anyways, I'll be there on the 6th, and either all I get from it is new friends, or we win.
Great cover story to ingratiate yourself with the Trumps......not saying his story is false, just saying it might create access where none was likely before
These tweets were very black pilling, god knows what the truth is in all this we are going to find out in the next few weeks one way or another, Trump is a CHUMP or a GOD we are about to find out..
It's that simple. We're about to find out. Not much time left now. The 2020 ordeal ends soon. May it not be replaced with a Biden/Harris ordeal in 2021.
Personnel has been the weakest link for the past 4 years. Get some red state patriots in there that don't give a fuck about the cocktail and corporate board seat circuit.
Oh yeah, I'm afraid Trump is being misled by many. Everything depends on Miller/Cohen/Tata/Ratcliffe - if they're not on board, then the only thing Trump would have is calling out the militia, but if it's just the militia and him, it's going to be dicey. We need some help from DNI/DOD. They have to drop what they have, and they have to mobilize a few troops.
All of Patrick Brynes twitter comments about this meeting are REALLY worth checking out IMO. Good glimpse of what was happening. Despite the fact that the meeting was just with these ABSOLUTE SWAMP CREATURES and Trump, Bryne walked away thinking trump's chances are 50 - 75%.
For such a great president Trump has been, he sure has had some of the worst administration picks in the country’s entire history. There are a few gems like Miller, Pompeio, and McEnany, but most everybody else has been worse than garbage.
Powell should GTFO. She is not an election nor civil rights lawyer. Let her road show rally us peasants for the coming war. GEOTUS team meeds to be focused on CONTESTED ELECTION in congress process.
Why would Patrick Byrne be in that meeting? He was bounced out of Overstock for being a loose cannon. I find it hard to believe Team Trump would tolerate this kind of behavior.
He resigned because of pressure. No one, and I mean no one, in the Trump Team would behave like this. Who is he calling out? And phrases like "mendacious mediocrities" -- Trump is "surrounded" by them--that's a lot. Who are they, then?
saying it publicly makes “the correct” voices louder. if GEOTUS is surrounded by compromised cuck commies, then he needs to hear patriots. the deeper we go, the longer this drags out, the more enemies we reveal
Trump's style is to listen to opposing sides battle and then make up his own mind.
By having some staffers who say concede (which to me seems somewhat implausible) he can best assess the arguments the Left would be making and then block them most effectively.
In the study of presidential decision making, that’s an identified management model called “competitive”. Most agree Trump is the first user of the style since FDR, interestingly enough.
Interesting, it would lead you to consider if the rest of them, with the possible temporary exception of Eisenhower were just, "following orders."
That's interesting. Any places to read deeper about this stuff?
https://omnilogos.com/competition-conflict-and-conformity-foreign-policy-making-in-first-year-of-trump-presidency/
Definitely some TDS at play there shading his conclusions, but that’s a decent walkthrough. Trump let’s the camps duke it out and lets that inform his final decisions. But, of course, he also is one to want to keep promises. Go figure that the academics can’t quite wrap their gear around that part, preferring to cast it as “self interest” lol
https://www.theepochtimes.com/byrne-trump-ill-suited-by-advisors-who-are-pushing-him-to-concede_3626506.html
Fdr had nothing on trump
Well, besides both eventually serving more than two terms.
Just to give a random example, Elon Musk uses that technique too.
^ ^ ^
Yes, exactly. Alternatively he could have been told to run and tweet. Wheels within wheels )
Book on lincoln's cabinet called "Team of Rivals"
Should hear every side
Old book but a good book
Thank you for that,will check it out.
The big take away on team.of rivals was how in the end he won over all the opposition. Goodwin did well on that book.
This sounds like wishful thinking. I don't want any consneeders if the room. This must be what Gen Flynn was talking about yesterday about Trump needing to "shore up" the people in the white house. I fucking hate people like this more than I hate the marxist.
I'm with you. I love hearing opposing viewpoints and debating which action to take, but anyone who says "yes Mr. President it looks like you got cheated, and Biden is compromised by China, but we've exhausted all legal options and you just need to concede for the good of the country but we'll get 'em in 2024!" is a special kind of stupid. Or a traitor.
Sad to think a bunch of Grima Wormtongues are around him :(
(Gríma Wormtongue was the chief advisor to King Théoden of Rohan before being exposed as an agent and spy of Saruman).
(https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Gr%C3%ADma_Wormtongue)
Hate to hear he's keeping "concede" people for advisors..
He needs people whispering in his ear hourly, "Imagine what they'll do to this Nation if we allow this corruption to pass" "Imagine what they'll do to you and your family if you don't destroy the threat now" "Mr. President everyone is depending on you"
Well if he has a plan that he's revealed to no-one except maybe Melania and Pence, this serves him as it tells him who to kick out when the time comes. For now they're digging their own graves.
Ya I don't see this as being such a negative thing having shitty advisers. After all, I know he doesn't have all shitty advisers.
I've never heard of advisers convincing him to somehow go against his opinions before either. That's all they are - "advisers".
They're probably good for CNN leaks too - let them mislead the media into thinking Trump has no more options.
His kids have got to be like that.
If youre signed up for Trump texts, he sent one out today talking about how we willnnever give up, never bend orbbreak and never concede...
Trump aint about to concede shit
Text “Trump” to 88022
Trump has always surrounded himself by people with various opinions. He doesn't WANT an echo chamber. Trust the man...
I've been thinking about Fauci's usefulness in light of this ... since he's ALWAYS wrong, just do the opposite of what he says.
Ah, the power of diversity ....
:)
Lol ... the idea of explaining Fauci as a diversity hire next administration... "well, we hired a whole bunch of smart people who are typically right ... soooooo, we needed a complete corrupt dumbass who's always wrong to be the benchmark ...."
I bet GEOTUS has been doing this for years (nah, decades).
Fauci has been in the CDC for over 30+ years, he's the one who fucked up and murdered everyone during the AIDS pandemic. Trump didn't hire that thing...
Fauci: his death toll puts him beneath even Dr. Pepper & Dr. Biden
They’re literally going to throw him in prison for the rest of his life if he doesn’t win. Probably Ivanka too.
Trump is not going to concede. You don't call people to DC on the 6th for a "Welcome the new President people. We had a good run". These barbarians are going to kill him and his family over time if he concedes. He knows it, they know it, we know it.
He's going to kill them first and that's the way it is.
this is a good point. people get too hung up on doomer propaganda and rush to blame advisors telling him the wrong things.. Trumps advisors are just that, opinion people. Trump likes to hear as many angles as possible but the fact remains, NOBODY makes up Trumps mind but Donald J Trump.
I would also have the snakes around me. Having them around is a good way to see what the DS is trying to do to fuck with you.
And when they don't show up for the meeting (or all leave early), you know that's the meeting that has a bomb. (Valkyrie)
Remember when he didn't hit the WW! memorial day in the rain? I suspect they were trying to kill him.
Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.
speaking of loose lips, has kamala harris resigned her senate seat yet?
zero sum game.
Lets just hope he’s sides with Byrne over the snake Cippiloni
Not the WH but a Trump Hotel room.
I am sure that Patrick's perception is his reality. I am not so sure that he is wrong. The other people in the room including Trump's advisors have differing motivations and that is where Trump will take control at a certain point and make the decision just like he did when he put the travel bans into effect with the virus. This is just about 1000X more important than that decision.
His decision very likely will be the most important in all of humanity since Christ. No pressure!
I do not believe that this is a good leak, in that, I do not believe that this information is perfectly accurate for strategic purposes. If you were to have a plan against an opponent, then having them think you have internal problems would be to your advantage.
Look, I will repeat what I have said, don't speculate too hard on this stuff, what happens happens and you have been ordered to prepare for 1.6.20
Definitely, appear weak when you are strong.
GEOTUS could've also been testing for leaks one last time before dropping the real plans. And some people may have just failed ...
Great point.
Didnt he screw some russian chick? Because the "FBI made him" Is that him??
It's also possible Byrne got the pulse of the room and he's right. We really don't know. Anyways, I'll be there on the 6th, and either all I get from it is new friends, or we win.
Where was the interim AG? Where was the guy who replaced Esper? Where was Gen Flynn?
Chris Miller replaced Esper and has been rocking and rolling at the Pentagon.
He’d honestly be better off picking random supporters in the crowd on the 6th for his team than continue with these rats.
He's completely surrounded by Grima Wormtounges.
The machines... I TOLD YOU TO RIG--THE MACHINES!
Then we remove these traitors to the country by force.
I'm believing Byrne less and less as time goes on.
At what point did you believe him more?
When he surfaced last summer he was flaky. His 'Operation Snowglobe' series is the first time he made sense, what, 10 days ago.
Trump is the master strategist.
This is the from NYT.
They have a history of making up anonymous sources, refusing to properly checking sources, and inflating the seniority of sources.
I'd take his POV with a grain of salt.
I wouldn’t.
I’ve been following him closely and he’s definitely a genuine, honest guy.
He popped up into the conversation like a month ago. Forgive me while I maintain a bit of skepticism.
Great cover story to ingratiate yourself with the Trumps......not saying his story is false, just saying it might create access where none was likely before
True.
And sitting on it for 4 years. At least publicly.
If not a bit neurotic...
“Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Trump needs some better advisors.
He's had some reddit bad ones over the years.
John Bolton, anyone?
These tweets were very black pilling, god knows what the truth is in all this we are going to find out in the next few weeks one way or another, Trump is a CHUMP or a GOD we are about to find out..
It's that simple. We're about to find out. Not much time left now. The 2020 ordeal ends soon. May it not be replaced with a Biden/Harris ordeal in 2021.
Confusion is of the Devil, the Father of Lies.
FUCK THEM...NEVER CONCEDE...HE FUCKING WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If someone has Twitter could they please ask this guy for names. We won’t forget
Personnel has been the weakest link for the past 4 years. Get some red state patriots in there that don't give a fuck about the cocktail and corporate board seat circuit.
Oh yeah, I'm afraid Trump is being misled by many. Everything depends on Miller/Cohen/Tata/Ratcliffe - if they're not on board, then the only thing Trump would have is calling out the militia, but if it's just the militia and him, it's going to be dicey. We need some help from DNI/DOD. They have to drop what they have, and they have to mobilize a few troops.
They want him to lose, so they are telling him not to just give in? Ok then...
And a man's foes shall be they of his own household - Matthew 10:36. But, we honorable deplorables, are with you Mr. President. 100%. Carry on.
All of Patrick Brynes twitter comments about this meeting are REALLY worth checking out IMO. Good glimpse of what was happening. Despite the fact that the meeting was just with these ABSOLUTE SWAMP CREATURES and Trump, Bryne walked away thinking trump's chances are 50 - 75%.
Byrne is an attention whore. Hard to take him seriously
He wouldnt be where he is if he relied on other people.
I'm fairly certain this guy is schizophrenic.
I’m fairly certain you’re a bad judge of character.
Nope.
EVERY TRAITOR needs to be strung up and publicly hung. Liberty or death! Choose which side you stand on! All should be held accountable!
FAUX AND HOMO
For such a great president Trump has been, he sure has had some of the worst administration picks in the country’s entire history. There are a few gems like Miller, Pompeio, and McEnany, but most everybody else has been worse than garbage.
Powell should GTFO. She is not an election nor civil rights lawyer. Let her road show rally us peasants for the coming war. GEOTUS team meeds to be focused on CONTESTED ELECTION in congress process.
Why would Patrick Byrne be in that meeting? He was bounced out of Overstock for being a loose cannon. I find it hard to believe Team Trump would tolerate this kind of behavior.
He has been working closely with Sydney and Flynn.
And FYI he wasn’t “bounced” out of Overstock, he left.
Patrick Byrne is credible.
He resigned because of pressure. No one, and I mean no one, in the Trump Team would behave like this. Who is he calling out? And phrases like "mendacious mediocrities" -- Trump is "surrounded" by them--that's a lot. Who are they, then?
“... Meadows + Lawyers Eric, Derek, GC Pat Cippollone (leaker).”
https://twitter.com/patrickbyrne/status/1340749371411935236?s=21
Also, he resigned because he didn’t want his company to be subject to an IRS investigation.
No, it was all this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurendebter/2019/08/22/the-exclusive-inside-story-of-the-fall-of-overstocks-mad-king-patrick-byrne/
I know there may be a bias from the left toward him, but this guy makes Musk look a bit dull.
It's just very bad form to do what he did with this tweet--air dirty laundry or laundry he thinks is dirty.
He’s clearly on our team, and trying to help get something done about this. He’s calling out the people giving the President bad advice.
OK, why not just tell the President? Trump's way is not to warn spies and leakers--let them think they're ok until the hammer drops.
saying it publicly makes “the correct” voices louder. if GEOTUS is surrounded by compromised cuck commies, then he needs to hear patriots. the deeper we go, the longer this drags out, the more enemies we reveal
Because they are probably not spies or leakers, but people just giving really bad advice.